#i had so many issues with this fuckass show
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offthewall1979 · 4 months ago
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i'm judging everyone, especially self proclaimed mj fans, who says the 2nd act Thriller staging was amazing in mj the musical. i was pleasantly surprised that the first act only had a snippet of Thriller within a medley (which btw WBSS was great). that was nice. we all know Thriller, so referencing it almost in passing like that felt like a nice nod and good use of time. well that got completely undone by the 2nd act. which i thought was in horrible taste. why are we dragging this legend's corpse around like this. they thought they did something really significant with the themes there. they thought they came up with some artsy excuse to (over)use Thriller. 1. it was incoherent 2. even if you can justify it, i don't care, i thought it was way too dark (in a serious, unfun way) and disrespectful to michael
#the 'evil' version of the Dangerous album cover. awful#zombie michaels. awful. the role of the father. awful.#i had so many issues with this fuckass show#and another thing#in the act 1 Thriller segment they did some choreo that included some of Thee iconic choreo#i think they added in new choreo and changed things a little and that's fine whatever#people want to see the iconic choreography#especially if you're a fan of mj you wanna see THEE choreography#so it was nice that they did that#the 2nd act thriller didn't do any original choreo as far as i could tell#honestly i was distracted thinking about how bad what i was watching was. but i at least didn't notice any of the iconic stuff in that scene#and i do know the thriller choreo pretty well at this point#just. god. at intermission i had critiques but i was entertained and there was some stuff i liked#the 2nd act was pure nonsense. it was boring and i didn't really like what they did with the songs and dances#like why do Bad at all. if you're gonna do Smooth Criminal for god sakes hit the original choreo just ONCE#and put all the dancers in suits. are you stupid#plus some choreo was chronologically inaccurate. otw michael doing stuff from dangerous/history etc#AND THE J5 CHOREO MADE ME SO MAD. DO NOT INSULT MY BOYS LIKE THAT.#it was surprisingly repetitive simple and stupid looking#that aint right!!!!!#whatever. there were some good performances i mostly just take issue with the writing#also katharine singing I'll Be There to michael. hm. could it be that she's still alive so we're changing the narrative there...#the pills thing was way overdone. no one literally NO ONE gaf about the financial issues or the mtv crew omfg. who cares#it's like they didn't understand why people would go to an mj show. why people love him? it's the dancing and singing. that's it.#agghh i have more thoughts about this.
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bellysoupset · 2 months ago
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i would adore something along the lines of this
leo thinking jonah's giving him the silent treatment, but quickly finds out Jonah's just not feeling good when Jonah throws up on him
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(this is my first ask with a sign off- so if this sign off is already taken just let me know)
Hi there! I think this was sent all the way back to the start of december, so I'm sorry about the wait! I hope you enjoy!
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Leo was proud of himself by how he had handled a nurse flirting with his fiancé. It was a well known thing, by Jonah and everyone else, that Leo was the crazy jealous sort, so the blonde was feeling extremely smug he hadn't given into the urge to bite the nurse's head off and had simply told Jonah to get in the car, throwing the nurse a dirty look so cold it might as well have given her frostbite.
Now, the issue was that Jonah looked upset. Which normally would've made Leo eyeroll, but given the circumstances, it made him feel incredible self conscious of his actions and a little hurt, "don't tell me you were enjoying it," the words were out of his mouth before he could say anything, "I mean, you must have, since you didn't shut that down immediately."
There it was, the crazy showing its ugly head. Leo stole a glance at Jon in the passenger seat and expected to meet a frown, but no, his boyfriend was still firmly looking out of the window.
He chewed on his next words, biting the inside of his cheek and trying to figure out if he should just let Jonah cool off or if Jon was even allowed to be pissed, because seriously? He was the one who let the nurse get all flirty in the first place!
"I wasn't even that mean," Leo opted for saying instead, squeezing the steering wheel and bouncing his leg nervously as they stopped at a red light, five minutes away from their building, "I could've told her she had no chances with that fuckass bob, for example."
He waited for Jon's amused snort, but it didn't come.
Leo pouted, now fully aware his fiancé was angry. That was just great. He drummed his fingers on the steering wheel, "I don't know why you're angry," Leo grumbled, then the light switched to green. Instead of answering him, Jonah only shuffled on his seat so he was fully facing away from Leo, turning his back at him.
"Wow," the blonde scoffed, just as they turned the corner of their street and he leaned out of his window to type the garage passcode, "silent treatment? Now, I'm getting offended. Because I told off some woman who was getting handsy with you? That's great."
He was itching for a fight, the silent treatment was one of the cruelest things Jonah could do, knowing Leo's mind was easy to spiral into self depreciation. His eyes stung and Leo inhaled sharply as he maneuvered his car into the parking spot right next to Jon's red BMW, "alright. Don't talk with me," he said loudly, opening the door as soon as he turned off the car, body filled with nervous energy, "fuck you too."
The blonde slammed his door shut and all but stomped towards the garage elevators. He expected Jonah to follow, pissed or not, simply because they were headed in the same direction. He expected a reaction as well, Jonah wasn't capable to keep silent treatment going for too long, he was too opinionated and arrogant for that.
Instead, as the elevator arrived with a ding! after Leo pressed the button four times too many, he looked over his shoulder and realized Jon was still inside the car. The elevator's doors opened and Leo hesitated, pacing like a caged animal.
He was furious and hurt by Jonah's behavior, but wasn't he coming up...? Was Jon just planning to sit in the car ignoring him until when...?
"Aren't you coming?" Leo asked loudly, taking two steps towards the car, a tone that he rarely used. He wasn't the type to yell, he was soft spoken and quiet, "Jonah?"
Something settled deep in his stomach, more powerful than the anger and the hurt, concern. Leo let out a long suffering sigh, mentally berating himself for his worry, and walked back to the car, circling it to be on the passenger's side. Jonah was hunched on himself, curled up, and that made Leo's worry spike up a notch.
There was being furious and there was whatever this was. He threw the passenger door open, "Jonah?" Leo squinted at him, trying to understand if his boyfriend was pissed, crying or something worse, like a vertigo episode, "enough is enough, talk to me."
A small noise answered him, like a choked up sob, but before Leo could ask the "are you okay?" already in his mouth, Jon pitched to the side, just in time to vomit out of the car... And spray it all over Leo's lap.
"WHAT THE- Jesus Christ, Jon, you couldn't have said-" Leo interrupted his involuntary response, grabbing his boyfriend by the shoulder as Jonah let out a groan and leaned further out, almost falling off, "oh angel, you're not well..." he let out a sigh, gagging as he felt the vomit wetness sink through his pants.
Jon probably felt Leo jerking with an empty heave, because he let out a pitiful sound, voice all drowsy, "sorry..."
"It's okay," Leo's voice was thick with nausea. He didn't get sympathy sick, but normally his lap didn't get covered in puke either, "it's alright, baby. Can you step out? Is this a vertigo episode?"
"Nuh-" Jonah gagged again, but now Leo was out of the line of fire. He cupped a hand over his boyfriend's forehead to support his head, fully expecting to identify a fever, but Jon was cold and clammy, "head..."
"Your head?" Leo frowned, rubbing his back with his free hand and trying not to think of how wet his lap felt, "do you have a migraine?" he thought of Luke, this looked similar enough, right?
"No-" Jonah pitched forward with a burp, bringing up another splash of vomit, then panted, micro tears running down the corners of his eyes, "fell."
"You fell?" Leo echoed, dumbfounded, "and you didn't say anything?!" his voice went up a notch, only for Jon to let out a pitiful whine and Leo to silently curse at himself, "we shouldn't have left the hospital if you're concussed, baby," he whispered.
"Mi-uuUrp-" He groaned, pressing his forehead to Leo's hand, "mild."
"Great," Leo pouted, feeling a stab of guilt. He had just been berating his mildly concussed boyfriend for the past 20 minutes. Shit, "are you done?"
"Yeah..." He sounded unsure, but Leo assumed this was the best he would get and wrapped an arm around Jonah's back, carefully tilting his hip away, since the last thing he wanted was to trigger his fiancés nausea with his own vomit. There was, probably, a particular circle of hell just for him.
Jonah stumbled as soon as he was upright, pressing a hand to his face and making a disgusted face, "I'm sorry-"
"I yelled at you while you were sick," Leo sighed, moving them slowly away from the disgusting puddle, "I guess I deserved that."
To his surprise his fiancé let out a little chuckle, then nodded, stumbling and almost bringing the two of them down, "maybe just a little."
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manwiththemagic · 4 months ago
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I hate mfs who infantlize Dean. "My lil babyyyy 🥺 omg he was expected to raise Jack after Jack killed cas and—" DIE. DIE IN A PLANE CRASH.
DEAN IS A GROWN ASS MAN. yes he was sad about cas', yes he had the right to be upset but not at JACK?? it's so obvious it's not jacks fault your actually insane.
And babying an ABUSIVE man is insane. Yes I do love deans character but I can admit he was being toxic. Also there was way more going on than just cas??
Like his mf MOM was gone?? Crowley (a good ally) was gone, Kelly (an innocent person) was gone. Obviously cas was one of the few people he actually gaf about but OMFG.
THOSE destiel shippers just irck me. I myself fw destiel but not like this??
these are the same MFS that are like "Dean and cas' and their baby Jack🥺🥺🥺" I DESPISE YOU. because no. Just no. Dean was NOT a father to jack. You know he he WAS a father too??? LITERALLY ANY OTHER KID IN THE SHOW. PICK ONE.
like you want destiel as dads?? Okay. Claire is right there pal. Because Jack is sastiels kid, and Claire is destiels and I STAND on that fact.
Idk how many fans there are like this but MANNNNN. this is why Tumblr is better than twitter/fuckass x. Tumblr algorithm save me. Save me Tumblr algorithm.
ONE MORE THING.
I hate when people see smth to do with deans bond w/ Sam and just THROW IT AWAY and give it to Dean and cas. LIKE NO. No. Dean and Sam are the MAINNNN mfs of this show. Sam and deans relationship is legit why everything happens. Not in a wincest way or anything but GODDDDD.
gang be so fr.
OR. OR. WHEN PEOPLE PRETEND CAS DOESN'T GAF ABOUT SAM. COME ONNNNNN. They were friends gang. Cas talking about how he won't let Sam self sacrifice and about how he understands him now after being human.
OR cas' happiness when sam comes back w/ his soul in s6?? He obviously cares about sam. Sure you can bring up the destiel confession like "oh but he loves Sam bc of Dean and—" stfu. They still care about each other. Tfw all care about each other and it's upsetting when people throw that away ☹️☹️
Anyways thanks for reading. Uhhhh goodbye to my tedtalk?? I feel like shit RN and idk what to do about it. LMAOOO
Kill myself?? <<<<< Rant about non important spn issue online!!
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badkarma1998 · 9 days ago
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Hey kid.
Yeah you.
You wanna read a long winded conspiracy theory for 2008 classic open world first person RPG Fallout 3?
Ok so I know it's been literally 17 years, and we all know that Bethesda has questionable writing, but I was thinking about a revalation I had recently at 7pm in a Dell Taco drive thru.
So I was replaying the main questline, and as anyone who's played Fallout 3 50 times over knows, it goes as so:
you leave Vault 101, you go find your dad, and then he dies like 1 quest later when the Enclave shows up to steal Project Purity. And as we all know, you watch your dad die (along with everyone else whos standing in the death chamber with him) from a massive release of radioactive gas from behind a thin pane of glass. You watch it happen, it's infuriating sad and sucks and you run away devastated to go continue the game's second wild goosechase.
And as we all know, when you do find the GECK in vault 87 and the Enclave ambushes you, who shows up?
Fuckass Colonel Autumn.
Who, if you'll remember, was standing right next to your dad in the radioactive death chamber when it filled with radiation and death. Who very clearly falls over dead right in front of you, but then somehow shows up fully alive to abduct you a few quests later.
Which is, ya know, bullshit?
This man has like 5 voicelines, and gets to cheat death while I get to have secondhand daddy issues, but sure, ok Todd.
So of course, I start thinking of possible explanations, cuz it's been a few years and I remembered he kidnaps you and all that, but I was thinking "surely he was standing outside the chamber when James starts the project purity meltdown", only to confirm that, no. You clearly watch him die.
And again, it's totally unfair that your dad dies but this two second bad guy gets to live? To antagonize you for a lil bit until you beat his ass like an hour later???
I digress
So I'm thinking ok, how does one survive radiation that intense?
It'd be obvious if he was a ghoul or a mutant, so that's out. And the only other thing I could come up with would be if he were a robot.
And then, because it's a fresh playthrough, I remember the android questline in Rivet City I've been ignoring. A quest that I basically wrote off as a teen because it was before Fallout 4 came out, and I didn’tcare about what a Commonwealth was until Dr Li left for it. But synths are very much an established thing in 3. Sure, the events take place about a decade before 4, so the tech is a little less advanced. But Harkness is living a full unsuspecting life as a man convincingly enough that Zimmerman can't find him. The synth technology is proven to be at a state where theyre indistinguishable (enough) from people. Sure, the institute is way north and it's a biiit of a strech to think there's two androids that made it down to DC, let alone that one of them is inexplicably in the hands of the Enclave leading it in a position of power. But like, it's not impossible right?
So I go to reddit, cuz I wanna know what the real answer is before I get too lost in my little theory.
And I just
Yall
I know Fallout 3 gets a bad rep. And like, in many ways it deserves it.
This is one of those times it deserves it.
Because Todd Howard's underpaid typewriter monkeys would really have my ass believe that this middle aged man storms a research facilitly the second it becomes operational after 20 years. Then, with no idea the lead researcher is a self destructive idealist, this man preemptively last min doses himself with an experimental never before heard of strain of rad-x he happened to bring with him, and that actually makes him immune to the lethal rush of condensed radiation that he had no way of knowing was about to kill him.
Now. Idk about yall. But I think its much more believable that say, a rouge institute scientist steals a synth, then runs away to join the Enclave down south. and maybe the actual living man that was Colonel Autumn sees an opportunity for immortality of sorts, and does everyone's favorite scifi trope, and uploads a copy of his brain into the convincingly human robot body. And either the original Autumn dies in project purity, or he was dead before, but the synth Autumn has no idea he's a synth and is just acting like he never died.
Its a stretch, sure. It's got some holes in it, of course.
But the alternative is the only known dosage ever of extra strength rad-x pm
Now, imagine that one reaction of the guy in the drive thru talking to the fast food worker, and hes got the sunglasses taped to his head and the worker looks horrified. Except the fast food worker was inside assembling my wife's carne asada fries while I ranted to my steering wheel.
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daincrediblegg · 3 months ago
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tagged by @desvoeux , thank you <3
last song: enemy- Imagine Dragons (arcane intro ver. it's good what do you want)
last book: got a start reading icebound in the arctic a couple of days ago because I wanted to look into crozier family history a little more. it's a great read so far I fucking love learning about my man.
last movie: sorry I'm going to use this category as a platform to talk a lot. Re-watched The Lion in Winter last night with my mom (it's one of her favorite movies of all time) and once again was blown away by it all and it makes Succession look like a fucking kiddie pool for family issues. also it has only just now connected with me that it's about fucking richard the lionheart which like. holy fucking shit this thing has so much historical precedent and weight and it's all just so fucking nuts. HE'S GAY!!!! I love it. also really funny that they made peter o'toole play henry ii TWICE (I adore Beckett btw.) but also I really wanna talk about this julie andrews christmas movie I watched the other night called "One Special Night" that she made in 1999 with James Garner (her co-star in victor victoria, btw) and it's basically a hallmark christmas movie but way fucking better because it's about old people problems and they're really fucking so sweet in it and it's so good on so many levels it's ridiculous I don't want to shut up about it. (this watch was brought to you by having re-watched the Eloise movies and then watching The Sound of Music and feeling extremely nostalgic about salzburg and missing it and wanting to go back. but also not being able to get the lonely goatheard out of my fucking head for 3 days straight. you're welcome)
last television show: started squid game 2. unfortunately I like it even though its cultural impact has a lot of problems. and I know that the people a the studio are going to suck about it and miss the point again but even worse this time bc it's parsing through new layers of subservience to capitalism this time. (also. Gong Yoo my beloved <3). but also I finished dune prophecy last night and I hate how much I want to be in a gay relationship with valya harkonen it makes me look so so stupid (look I've had a thing about emily watson since chernobyl ok? nobody @ me)
sweet/savoury/spicy: savory for sure
relationship status: blissfully unengaged thank you for asking (... 👀 unless?)
last thing I looked up on the internet: one special night because I fucking forgor James Garner's name for a second ngl.
current obsession: other than... um... the obvious. a few things: The Leftist Cooks video essays on youtube which are genuinely. the most comprehensive and academically sound video essays on the entire platform and I'm serious about this. just wrapped up their representation matters/spiderverse video a few days ago and sarah and neil did a really good job of constructing a comprehensive argument that both reaffirmed and even in some places challenged some stuff that I already knew??? those guys just do a great job at it all. I've also been saving extant examples of ballgowns from the 1850's/1860's because I got my hands on some fancy material on discount for christmas and I'm going to make one so help me god. it's going to be snow queen themed. (stay tuned). also I await new adam savage raptor build updates with rapt and rabid glee.
looking forward to: getting my fuckass new glasses fixed because I am dying of the eyestrain that they are causing. but also. new magic wand got delivered today yaaaaaay 🥰
no pressure tags: @prismatica-the-strange @roaming-thru-roses @your-mighty-words-astound-me @ashton-slashton @theboarsbride @brotherdusk @marshmallow--galaxies @spockvarietyhour @hamishlinklaters @sunlaire
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1343-40 · 1 year ago
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ok i'm insane in the brain thinking about rosie's place in the mota hockey au cuz. yk.
actually talked about this w @swifty-fox earlier tonight but i need this on my fuckass tumblr
i'm imagining that his career started pretty roughly--getting skipped over in the draft because he didn't hit his growth spurt at that point and his stats weren't good enough for teams to risk picking up a guy as small as him. he's doesn't have something as crazy as a 50 goal season with his USHL team or anything but he's a solid forward, yet all the teams see is him being 5'9" and way too light
he does get picked up in the third round, but it's by a team that already has a pretty good lineup, so he plays one or two games in the pre-season and gets sent down to the ahl affiliate for that entire first year. he's a pretty optimistic guy, so he's not particularly broken up about it--he makes friends with his teammates, he works on his game, he finally hits that growth spurt and puts on weight he was lacking to really afford to play in the NHL
eventually he does get called up in his second year, a couple times at that, but it's not nearly enough for him to get properly developed to play in the show. UNTIL the team gets so many injuries the management have no choice but to call him and a few other guys up to salvage the rest of that season. he kind of gets going on the third line, puts up a couple goals, puts up more than a couple assists, gains confidence, but it's clear there's no place in the lineup for him once the guys he's replacing go off LTIR--maybe he doesn't click with his lineys as smoothly as the front office hoped, maybe it's just harder for him to get used to the big boy league, especially thrown into the fray like that, but either way the management finds him lacking. at that point all the goodwill he's had is quickly running out and he is frustrated that they just won't let him play, won't even throw him a bone and put him on the fourth line
he gets placed on waivers and the expansion team (WHATEVER THE FUCK WE'RE CALLING THEM IN THIS AU. winnipeg fuckin jets) scoops him up bc their gm is smart like that and they see the potential in him, plus they need all the help they can get to fluff up the roster with solid guys. and he plays the second and third line at first, but then their coach (btw is it harding or?.. lol) mixes up the lines and rosie gets placed with buck and curt and boom it just fuckin clicks baby. it just fuckin works. he secures his place on first line that season
he's definitely putting up more assists than goals--he settles into his role of the playmaker and gets going, plus he seems like a total giver to me. like, his biggest issue is probably not shooting the damn puck enough. but he is where he needs to be for buck or curt or whoever it is that's wearing the right jersey to slam it home, and it's just good fuckin hockey
Also probably not a good chirper. he tries though. he tries. got into One fight in his entire career that he lost but boy he sure went down swinging. makes sure to keep contact with all his previous teammates he's befriended and goes out with them whenever the team comes to their city. nobody in the locker room lets him put on his music because he puts on shit like wes montgomery and herbie hancock
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fortemelody · 11 months ago
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i was visiting chicago last weekend and i walked around and found a comic shop. i’ve been trying to find a place that sold archie sonic comics (becus i’m a collector even of subjectively bad and not cannon media) and i happen to find a handful so i was super excited! i picked up 3 of them.
it was issue 30, 41, and the knuckles spin-off 14.
what’s so special about this you may ask?
the first two are relatively normal. knuckles 14 however is the issue where charmy’s friend (mello) gets a laced chili dog from a carnival stand and proceeds to overdose on LSD -oh i’m sorry “lemon sundrop dandelion”- and dies (and then the chaotix eventually overdose too but live obviously)
i have watched way too many archie sonic youtube review videos and so when i realized that i had found that specific issue i almost lost my shit. i treated this like it was some rare collectors item that the world has never seen. i legit almost screamed. in reality this is just another horrible pender’s story that was worth a whopping 4 dollars. but listen y’all THIS SHIT SHOW OF A COMIC IS SPECIAL TO ME IN A COMEDIC WAY OKAY ☹️☹️☹️
i have yet to read it becus it’s been a hectic week but when i do i’m going to curl up by the fireplace, relax, and absolutely laugh my ass off.
OKAY NVM DID SOME RESEARCH AND APPARENTLY ITS A 3 PART COMIC AND THE SET UP (THE PLOT THAT I JUST DESCRIBED) WAS ACTUALLY IN 13 GODDAMIT there’s way too much lore to remember help me and why did this fuckass story have to go on for so long??? i’m sure some kid in the 90s was just dying to know the ending of the LSD caper their parents definitely wouldn’t approve of them reading 😭
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allthedamnlove · 4 months ago
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i agree that drew and fiona had way more chemistry than madison and rudy😭😭
jj and kie were just like there…. if that makes sense?? like nothing about them gave couple. meanwhile rafe was on his knees with a ring for sofia🙂‍↕️
also the whole riara thing is like not it lmfao, like madison said kiara would not be kiara if she was with rafe so if they really make a romantic connection happen between them not only would it ruin her character but it would not make sense imo
i’m all for the partners in crime duo and going after revenge but for them to all of a sudden want each other in 1 season would throw the whole show off
rofia endgame or the writers will not know peace for the rest of their lives idk🙂‍↕️
See that's the thing it's like the end of mockingiay where katniss says that she doesn't need the fire from Gale but needs peace that peeta gives. Rafe needs love from a normal woman who's been in love with them for nearly 2 years...not a heartbroken girl looking for revenge
Oh Jiaras are 👌close to killing rudy Elaine and the pates so if they put rafe and kiara you will probably see the pates dead or something. I think what they meant by rafe and kies relationship being explored more is that they will find each other in violence and revenge. I'm so happy that kie gets to explore herself in the final season. I'm so fucking sick of rudys unprofessional ass ruining the entire show. So I want madison to get the attention full front and center. No men around her.
Also rafe might have hastily broke up with sofia but his ass is soo going to regret it. He has INSANE attachment issues and so he would want closure WHICH MEANS ANGST FOR US.
And also if anyone comes for sofia I won't hesitate to deck them cuz I'm sick and tired of everyone victim blaming sofia. Like sHe BeTrAyEd HeR BRO HE KILLED PEOPLE. And again a number one hypocrite cuz HE KNOWS that he has done bad shit yet broke up with her OVER THE PHONE. LIKE BE FUCKING RIGHT
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I feel like one of the pates really really like rofia and also the confirmation by the directors further confirmation that their story is not over.
Oh I will take a pitchfork and go rafe s2 on all of their asses if they come for my ship. So they better watch their asses.
Also the body doubles for the beach scene in MOROCCO CTFU. Meanwhile drew carrying fiona across the beach for the enduro scene YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS UP. Yea so clearly we can see a difference in chemistry.
If the obxanon is true (I don't trust them) then the dire nearly dry ass chemistry in ep 6 to ep 9 must be because ep10 was filmed first after it. So naturally mads was pissed at rudy but at the same time....they both should have been professional and atleast showed some chemistry even if jjs dying. Its the fan favourite ship, both the writers and mads and rudy atleast should have taken it to a higher level in the scenes if jj was going to die. But nope, they were acting like they didn't even know each other LMAO. Its just very very sad like jj is an amazing character and I'll say that rafe and jj are kinda cut from the same cloth so I would have loved to see how their relationship evolved. But that's the thing with these fuckass 10eps we see no emotional development between the characters. The main reason why rafe and sofia seems "weird" (by the way they are wrong and don't enjoy life enuff) is that the editors cut so many scenes that it feels disconnected.
But yea again I wish and wish I see rafe crying his ass off at the wedding with sofia wearing an insane wedding gown with Valerie as the flower girl and mads as one of the bridesmaids
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restisrust · 22 days ago
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the problem with istjs is that they genuinly are hot tho... on the basis that si dom will pick some fucking shit at youth and just fucking go with it. and high te just does smtg that high fe doesn't which is Keep Going like. constantlyyy. it's their primary mood ... so they are just Doing Things irl yk. u can see the effort materialized usually etc. they're always doing some fucking shit. lolz. so while yes there are wayyy too many istjs who r boring as shit bcs all they dedicated their youth to is cringe anime and drawing the same things over and over again,,, there also are a fuckton of istjs that just got into music during youth, and they always have thee shittiest taste in classic rock or wtv it never misses dnsjdbwh, but then they also most likely play like 3-5 instruments..... then u got the more esoteric istjs that just know wayy too much about literature, history, but also about stuff like tarot or weird niche occult stuff... And they practice it. like you Know that witchy istj u know has a whole indoor 'garden' of raising plants and they have skulls of animals u didn't know god had created fhsjdbsh that they collected Themselvesss. i mean the istj 5w4s definitellyyyy have my heart:'))) but even w/o the 5 or 4 influence the istj librarian u know probably knows how to bookbind and she's been fixing book covers since age 13 and she has an insane collection of personal journals and u flip to a random page and there is very specific origami attached to it and in detailed and good calligraphy it says 'tea with mom @ 12' fbsjfbsjfbsjjd. they rarely fail to be impressive..... like 'hey here is my huge fuckass aquarium that i built myself.' i mean DON'T do this to me...... also i'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who feel this way about isfjs too, especially fe users... they will know in detail information about sociology and true crime stuff and write u up a deep commentary on violence and how it is consistent through whatever the fuck like nobody's businesssssss. i mean Eye am not into that type of low ti arguments tbh but i can see the appeal lmfao... but i do feel Inchrested in the istj brand of it. it IS hot when someone who speaks at 0.5 speed just knows The Everything about instruments and also produces music and sings a bit. i carn't help it..... but like theee issue is. they just. always assume other people should Also be like this??? or that they Want to be like this???? esp if u show interest??? i mean all high je users think this that's granted but like. the istj brand is almost annoying af. 'do u want me to teach u how to do it' and it's not even flirting... like i could have learned how to file shit in folders by deeply specific categorization if i wanted to. it's not difficult to do. i just want to stare at u having done it bcs it's hot. idgaf about actually learning about deeply specific interior design and how everybody is wrong and interior design has gone to Hell in year whatever the everloving fuck and hasn't come back since bcs we are standing in a room and you think this is Not how it should be bcs it is Wrong and Uncomfortable also there should be a class specifically about 'designing small meeting rooms' bcs 'nobody could even properly Do Presentation here. due to Logistics' and 'can you move 1/3 of a meter to the left when you speak bcs otherwise this is a Travesty' and how nobody should be allowed to graduate before they pass that particular class when we are in a meeting room in which Everybody else is having a normal time in. i just wanna see you soliloquize some bullshit that essentially boils down to 'everything should be beige and Very specifically scaled' even though you can't tell that's what ur saying lol. idgaf about ur expectations on Me i'm not doing all that nor do i have any interest in learning all that. i'm just gonna be watching u disrespectfully tho xxx n do NOT expect me to actually comply to ur weird demands at all times. we'll say 50/50 of times if u keep being weird about ppl's choices of spacing and font and let me watch xxxx
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canid-carnival · 24 days ago
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Hi hello everypony. Guess who’s realized and (mostly) accepted that I’m that fuckass purple cat (catnap).
It still feels kinda weird to say that I Am him and/or that he Is me, but that’s fine cuz I’m not a carbon copy of him and am still my own guy. If that makes sense, which I’m not sure if it does.
Anyways! Consider me (at Least in Some Way) catnap.
I’m not good at explaining how I feel so under the cut there will be an image that lists the ways I feel connected to each different “variant” of catnap
(Note I’m adding after writing everything out: this is longer than I thought it’d be sorry 💥)
(Peep the super simple but very thematically appropriate divider 🙂‍↕️ I’m so cool guys)
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There are some things that are Not listed in the image, some of which I will Not be sharing (at least not here/now) because they are my very complex thoughts and emotions that Fuel this connection. However there Are some I will list here! I will be changing the order of the list however, I will go in order of when each “variant” was likely created/released in canon (cartoon->plush->bigger body).
Cartoon
I neglected to mention in images list that the Biggest reason I feel a connection to this “variant” is because This is the one the other 2 are Based On! The plush and bigger body would not have been made if not for the cartoon (or maybe playtime co wanted a cartoon made to sell a new toy line and they released at the same time. Either or, I’m still gonna say the plush is based on the cartoon)
The plush and bigger body variants come with their own unique stressors for me (bigger body moreso but I’d be lying if I said that my irl body not being a plush causes stress sometimes), so feeling like I have a connection to the cartoon offers a bit of comfort. I imagine the show was very similar to the old Care Bears movie(s) and generation 1 version of My Little Pony, and probably many other child friendly cartoons of the 80s-90s. I feel a bit awkward trying to imagine what it’d be like for me to be In the cartoon world, but the thought/connection is comforting regardless. Also it makes me feel like I might have a life lmaooooo
Plush
The way I feel about this one is simpler than the other 2, which is ironic considering how I feel the most connected to it. It’s because I have a hard time envisioning myself in the cartoon, but I also feel like I’m quite a bit different from the bigger body in canon. It’s the most comfortable middle ground between the 2. (This is more restating/elaborating slightly on what’s said in the image, but I don’t care)
(Mid post realization I had while writing out the next section, copy pasted here for your convenience: WAIT WAIT FUCK HOLD ON. WHAT IF IM A NON CANON VARIANT OF CATNAP THATS ACTUALLY A LIVING PLUSH/CARTOON AND ITS LIKE A TECHNICOLOR ENDY AND THE BINK MACHINE)
Bigger body (not Theodore (the child who was turned into bigger body catnap from canon)
I think this one is the most confusing for me. Every time I think about how, if I Am the bigger body, that means I was eager to participate the hour of joy. Hell, it might mean I helped organize it. I could’ve been a key player in the event even happening. And every time I have that thought, I feel kinda awful. I don’t Want to have hurt anybody. There was an entire paragraph of me talking about the hour of joy and my specific issues with it but I realized that might be a bit too much info lol
I really really REALLY hate thinking about the employees and scientists of Playtime Co. the way this feels for me seems a bit too..intense? Serious? For it to be completely normal. Being the bigger body helps me rationalize this feeling and why I feel it.
This fucking ROOM…… I swear there’s a place where you can see this room from completely different angle and climb down into the room. Hole in the ceiling. That’s where I fucking SLEEP!!!!! (Referring to image below)
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The prototype is evil I don’t care what anybody says. You cannot change my mind. Even if it was intending on saving someone at some point, the fact it let the toys all turn on each other…IF I CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ILL GET MAD SO ILL STOP AUGH.
The mini critters are babies to me. Idk when this turned into me just stating feelings I have based on this connection but Whatever.
For some reason whenever I think too hard about not being able to actually save any of the toys I get really upset and freaked out. I think I almost cried about this once. I don’t know Why I feel this relates to my connection with catnap, but it does.
And with that I think I’m gonna stop bcuz this has gotten super long. As a present for reading this, have some doodles I did of myself and some mini critters
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(Also maybe if u have questions u can ask them…only if u want…I’m not good at explaining my feelings but Yknow…u Can…might not have answers for Every question but that’s ok…)
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bonestrouslingbones · 1 month ago
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insane stream of consciousness ramblings of a madman desperately trying to rework the fuckass swapfell bros lore up ahead with so so so many incredibly beefy paragraphs turn back now or abandon hope all ye who enter here
ok so it's been building for a good minute/several years now but i think i kinda hate what i did with the grandpa gaster thing ngl. like its such a weirdly contrived and somehow overcomplicated yet extremely underdeveloped element that doesn't even have much reasoning for it other than "people thought i was talking about gaster so i ran with it"
swapfell bros' grandpa gaster who has been retired and working as a weapons dealer for at least over a decade but who faked his death for reasons very loosely POSSIBLY related to royal scientist shit (but we will never have time nor will i have the interest to delve into that At All) & went to live as an anonymous cryptic ferryman instead (which makes me have to figure out questions like "why were they raised by their grandpa instead of their parents?" and "who ARE their parents" and "how recently did the core thing even happen" and "why was the grandpa involved if he's been retired from being a scientist for over a decade" and "why would this not come off as a very obvious lie/coverup to either of his grandsons" and "why does he suddenly start acting like That as a ferryman" OR "if he was always like That why the hell are neither of his grandsons like That") sucks. this idea sucks you can tell wayyyyy too easily that i just pulled it out of my ass i hate it i hate it i hate it
would it be. too much of a change. to revive my original idea of making grandpa semi the one who raised them so that i can take gaster out of the grandparent role without having to make up some random nameless OCs that aren't connected to undertale even remotely, which is exactly what their parents would have been. and then because gaster is still available i can change him to a neglectful dadster who abandoned his kids & went into hiding because of the core incident soon after papyrus's birth. this only leaves the question of a hypothetical mother character but it's a bit easier to get away with not mentioning that one since most dadster fics don't anyway lmao, maybe she's just a surrogate or something idk
the change does still cause some Problems for me in terms of an arc way in the future where The Grandpa IS meant to show up and interact with characters and i would absolutely prefer for a role with this level of influence to be Gaster instead of some guy i stole the name of & made up the rest- meaning i also want that fucker dead For Real instead of the weird faked death thing. but replacing those scenes with dadster, who Fluff literally would not remember or have any connection to at all, would have. significantly less teeth to it lmao
and i could MAYBE have gaster "disappear" when Fluff is a little older and it would at least give some more basis to his abandonment issues (even tho those don't become overtly relevant til the ending of the main story + some of his epilogue arc and by then will be VERY JUSTIFIED even without dadster) but then that would spring up some problems of fluff believing that his grandpa's behavior is completely normal and not abusive, because it's literally the only type of parenting he's ever had. if gaster sticks around long enough for fluff to remember him and connect with him, obviously he would know forms of parenting outside of the strict discipline of his grandpa and it wouldn't really work as well imo
i wouldn't wanna make dadster outright cruel & physically/verbally abusive like the grandfather, probably just really fucking neglectful so that i can still attribute karma's size to stunted growth from malnourishment. maybe a SEVERE workaholic plus functional alcoholic with a side of a lil somethin else to keep him away from home for days at a time. making him also abusive would just feel like i'm writing the same shitty character twice and would probably come off as boring at best and trauma porn at worst and i'm already still annoyed about the borderline cartoonish way i wrote fell sans in self hatred so i gotta redeem myself
plus ngl i do kinda like the idea of fluff and dadster turning out to be very similar in terms of emotional distance/immaturity & substance abuse despite never knowing each other because they're both raised by the same shitty guy. and karma is only able to avoid being in the same spot because he WAS raised by gaster for more than long enough to remember and act out when he leaves, & then still skipped dealing with the grandpa for too long because of how young he is when he's kicked out to become essentially a ward of the state
SO. my options would be to rework that specific arc from almost the ground up OR cut it out entirely which is honestly almost tempting IF it wouldn't be. a lot of scenes & developments for me to cut out lmao. some of which are actually pretty fucking important considering they all lead up to russ no longer being able to avoid talking about how he left his universe and where all his worldhopping abilities came from. that's a little too big of a reveal to cut maybe
ugh. blugh. blagh. smashing all of these stupid purple skeletons with a large wooden mallet like whack a mole
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inplodinggofer616 · 11 months ago
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the big G in the sky knew I'd be much too mighty if I had claws and fangs as a physical motif for my weird obsession with humanity's fancy new-fangled ways to brutally kill each other being very ingrained in my mind as a means to distract myself from my emotions and how it's become a way to express them despite this especially around my friends and of course leaves me wondering about the morality behind an obsession such as this and whether or not this is healthy at all for anyone least of all someone with a history of serious anger problems and a lot of beef with the world at large considering how much I feel as though I have been brainwashed by my parents, teachers and the myth of americana and if this arms obsession is a product of that and maybe that's why I feel like I'm a bad person sometimes but also I don't feel safe doing that because that would be agreeing with my mother who probably thinks that if I don't hold as many of her beliefs and live as close a life to hers as feasible then she won't go to heaven and how I can't complain about anything because she put me in this world and she can take me out which she always said in jest but knowing my anger issues stem from her I worry she could actually be liable to really do that should she find out about this whole shtick and also very frustrated that if she doesn't do that (not attempting murder being much more likely) I will have the perfect opportunity to confront her about things she said and her mother said and her shitass halfassed 'apology(?)' on her behalf but I cant be too mean grandma died very recently and if I press about stuff mumsy dearest herself said she'll just deny it. just be like 'oh I dont remember saying that so everything is better now because your rage is unfounded because your trauma doesnt exist arent you so relieved?' no you fuckass bitch take your own advice that you raised me on and admit to what you did ffs how else do you expect me to forgive you even slightly. oohooh or she'll pull her favorite move, where she mocks my actual genuine emotions because she thinks I'm doing it just to get her to pity me which DEFINITELY HAS NOT RESULTED IN A GREAT DIFFICULTY IN BEING ABLE TO GAUGE MY EMOTIONAL STATE OR EVEN SO MUCH AS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING THROUGH MY OWN GODDAMN HEAD HALF THE FUCKING TIME, BUT IF THAT'S NOT WHAT CAUSED IT OH GOLLY FUCKING GEE HOW IT VEXES ME SO
"hey why don't you like hanging out with us?"
*we're watching a tv show. an older black lady is in the hospital after exuding very serious symptoms and fainting at a farmers market and who I presume is her daughter (I don't watch this show on my own time so idk) is at her bedside and this character is a med student. the emergency room doctor says something about web md to suggest incompetence and petty fretting over nothing when the show had clear scenes and depictions of the aforementioned symptoms of what is later revealed to be a very serious heart condition. the real world problems poc face when it comes to healthcare are explicitly discussed amongst characters in this episode. the need for poc autonomy surrounding their healthcare is also explicitly stated by the daughter of the older black lady with the heart condition (I'm sorry I don't have names here I genuinely cannot remember them at all because I dont really watch this show, the show in question being 9-1-1 I think)*
'no i dont think it was a race thing tho'
*my brothers and I had been discussing the many ways marvel movies had jumped the shark*
'yeah and im also sick of all that woke crap' (she knows I'm bisexual btw just not about being genderfluid yet)
*grandma hadn't died yet (I believe this was in around october(?)) and had gotten talking about book bans and mentioned The 57 Bus, a book about a real agender highschooler who was burnt alive on a public bus for being queer by a guy who was pressured into it*
'oh but they had gay employees and were really nice to them' (at some point my (great?)grandparents owned a country club)
"idk ig I just like screwing around on my phone"
dad's a tesla driver and would prolly lick elon's boots until they were clean enough to double as mirrors and also made me spend more time than is generally considered useful learning vba and microsoft access (not entirely useless skills tbh but not very helpful because who uses either in the year of our lord that will pay me anything worth a fuck in an Economy™ that is so fucked I don't need to elaborate any more on just how fucked it is rn) oh yeah and as is Freedom-Loving American Tradition he spent more of my childhood at work, sometimes in an entirely different country for said job which is why my parents worry about my bond (or lack thereof) with my dad all the time and yet both refuse to acknowledge that having to work in order to be worth being kept alive is what caused this and can you believe that I made the realization about this part specifically because of the phone guy save button Ness/Ninten's dad in the Mother™ Series™? (on a tangentially related note, official english localized Mother 3 when?)
fr when I'm in that house every bone in my body is telling me I shoulda ran when I was like 10 and never looked back and I know people have had worse than this with their parents but this isn't about them and for that I am sorry but I can't speak for them nor do I wish to downplay my problems
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hotseok · 2 years ago
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honestly, i haven't seen anyone accuse mx of this so idk why mbbs are inserting themselves in this issue. anyway, there where some names dropped (fuckass bfree and bobby for example), as well as the projects kpop stans were creating to ruin bts' image like#breakthewings project started by lovely exols. another thing that bothers me is that it IS pretty clear who the bullies are, because, over the past years, multiple celebrities, idols inculded, have admitted to treating the group badly when they were rookies. suju members, especially bastard shindong mentioned yelling at them and mistreating them few times when bts were teens and yet kpop fans are still saying the stories are made up and defending them? there is also many idols confirming that bts were often not given their own rooms at award shows and had to do make up and practice choreographies in the corridors, yet again, people ignore those statements and say it's just 'made up sob stories'. idk for someone who has been an army for quite a while much of this isn't any news, since boys have been talking about their issues, just noone but army listened
BOBBY??? suju members I am not shocked about & I seriously with all my heart and soul need them to disband but Bobby??? wow
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tg-headcanons · 4 years ago
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what are your opinions on the quinx as characters?
I LOVE THE QUINX! I think that they started off as such amazing characters but, like everything else in this fuckass show, got their stories cut short to an unsatisfying conclusion. Had I written their stories, I would have done some things different, but in all there’s so much to go on with them. Specifically, that each of them represent a way that the CCG indoctrinates new members
First there’s Urie, representing those taken in after a family member in the CCG is killed in a ghoul related trauma. He is one of many people who have a sort of ghoul killing lineage. His father fought, then died, then he was taken in my people who echoed back to him that it was ghouls and their evil that killed him to keep him under their thumb, and it worked. Urie is shut off, simultaneously craving and rejecting belonging. He’s been raised in the idea that climbing ranks and killing ghouls is the best thing, that’s the best way to do good, it’s the best way to be good. I love this basis, and if I could change his story, I would have had it focus more of the other quinx bringing him out of his shell sooner
Then there’s Saiko, representing those coerced by teachers and parents to take dangerous positions they don’t want. The CCG can afford to incentivize parents to push jobs onto their children and it gets them more exploitable employees. Saiko never had a choice, she was made into a quinx under pressure and then trapped in her job. She never wanted to be there, but by the time she could stand up for herself it was too late. If I could change her story, I would have her work against the CCG, sabotaging them in any act of revenge she can reach and trying to dismantle their schools. She would have made an amazing revolutionary
Next there’s Ginshi, It should come as no surprise that I LOVE HIM. Ginshi represents those orphaned and in poverty who can’t afford to give up the CCG’s offers. First he lost his mother, then his father, then his sister got irreversibly ill. He was just a child, and he didn’t know what to do, so along came these adults who tell him that if he goes to their school under their custody and takes their job, they’ll take care of it. He didn’t know what he was getting into, only that this is the only help he has and there’s no one left in his life that isn’t telling him to do it. He became a quinx because he needed the money, healthcare, and housing, but unintentionally signed up to commit horrifying murders. He even understood it in the end, he was so close to getting that he was horribly wronged, but was killed off. If I could change his story, I’d have him live, and live to realize how the CCG had exploited and lied to him. Ginshi would be the first to reach out to ghouls, because maybe they have answers as to why the doves would do this, and he would learn just how awful the organization is. He of all people deserves to destroy that place
Finally, Mutsuki, the one done dirtiest of them all. He represents those exploited for social issues and mental illnesses that leave them vulnerable. He had a horrific origin, severe trauma and mental illness, and was a trans kid with no support. Combine all these things and you get a boy so vulnerable that he can pretty much be shaped into whatever they want under the guise of help, and have his wishes overriden with the argument that he’s insane if he ever protests. They never offered him any psychiatric care, never offered him decent transitioning care, only a job that they say will make people love him if he follows all their orders. They did the same to Juuzou, so it’s not like this is anything new. After that there’s the whole shitshow of racism and transphobia that befalls him, so this poor dude has a lot I’d do differently. For starters, NOT FUCKING THAT. Secondly, I’d have him reach out to the other quinx with his worries and what’s happened to him, and for the first time receive real support and assurance that what happened to him wasn’t okay. He isn’t crazy, it was really as bad as he remembers it, and it never should have happened. It should be changed so it can never happen again
In all, I love the quinx, but I wish they had very different endings. They deserve to be a family who are alive, together, and given closure
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thepoisonroom · 5 years ago
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okay in reddie whos the an and whos the sb?
okay i had no idea this was even up for debate but i have opinions and here they are:
let’s say we’re working directly off of the definitions given in the original niche post, so:
a sweaterboy “is stable [and] settled. the sweaterboy lives within a familiar pattern, and is, in all likelihood, highly competent at what they do. but is the sweaterboy happy? fuck no, dude! [...] the sweaterboy thinks that this is what relationships — of any kind — should look like: giving and giving and giving, and never actually asking for what they want. Because that would be selfish. the sweaterboy would never want to burden anyone; the sweaterboy, deep down, fears very much that they are a burden”
an absolute nightmare “is someone who has entirely rejected the task of trying to conform to societal norms. they know they don’t fit in. they know they’re not like everybody else. and while they are outwardly bold and defiant and confident, they’re often very lonely. they internalize their issues; they may be mistaken for aloof and uncaring when, in fact, they have big feelings”
let’s discuss the book evidence. we have:
eddie “needed to be protected from his own dim intimations of possible bravery” kaspbrak. lives under his mom’s thumb for years and years because he’s been taught to fear what will happen if he steps out of line even a little! his internal fear of being different, which i would argue is heavily mapped to his sexuality, is externalized in his fear of disease and especially in his fear of sexually-transmitted infection. he tries being a regular straight dude with a wife and a nine to five that he excels at but he’s deeply unhappy with it! he’s replicating what he knows as normalcy (i.e. maladaptive relationship patterns from his childhood) in a desperate attempt to conform which is some CLASSIC sweaterboy bullshit. eddie isn’t your conventional sweaterboy because his definition of what the aspirational norm looks like is so deeply colored by his hypochondria, so as readers we still register him as abnormal, but in his own way he’s trying to live the lifestyle that was prescribed for him that he associates with his mother (fearful, straight, cautious). 
i think the thing that hammers this home the most for me is book Eddie’s relationship with surveillance and being watched. the book repeatedly makes the point that eddie’s personality and self-image are directly contingent on being watched, and who’s doing it. the text makes the argument that eddie when he’s being watched by his friends, or when he’s alone, is fundamentally different from eddie being watched by people who enact violent mechanisms of social control (e.g. bullies who beat him up for not conforming, or his mother who inflicts medicalized violence on him whenever he steps out of line). we get a pretty unambiguous statement of this in the flashback where eddie remembers his gym teacher having an argument with his mother:
“i have the results of eddie’s last physical on file […] it says that eddie is a little small for his age, but otherwise he’s absolutely normal […] he loves to play games, and he runs quite fast […] when there’s nobody around to remind him of how delicate he is”
basically, eddie lives with this constant awareness of how authority figures in his life want him to be, and he conforms when they’re watching him, for the most part. this is how he can be totally capable of the same physical activities as other children and still buy into his mother’s insistence that he’s delicate and constantly ill; he has internalized that surveillance until it’s unconscious/second nature to replicate the behavior that’s expected of him. we also see this focus on surveillance when eddie talks about how he loves bill because he never calls him homophobic slurs, the implication being that other boys their age do. with his friends, eddie can let go of that internal voyeur that watches and polices his actions to make sure that he’s not behaving in a way that might invite unwanted negative attention. you actually see little flashes of this in the scene where ben meets eddie and bill and eddie has a bloody nose from talking back to some bullies! eddie by himself or with his friends is a brave little motherfucker in a world that’s determined to make him afraid (of himself, of the consequences of abnormality, of his sexuality)! i love him so much! but anyway!
basically, eddie spends his entire childhood and most of his adult life trying to bend himself into a shape that’s as small and unassuming and inoffensive as possible. he associates any deviation from the norm with sickness and lives in fear of what it would mean to be different in any way. stephen king literally doesn’t deserve rights but his scene of eddie cataloguing and packing the contents of his medicine cabinet after mike calls him? that’s a goddamned fucking portrait of the iron fist with which many deeply closeted gays try to control their lives. i’m not a hypochondriac but the worst years for my ocd happened when i was trying my hardest to avoid coming out to myself. the mechanism of control varies, but it all comes down to a desperate conviction that something unspeakably terrible will happen if you don’t enact all these horribly specific rituals to protect yourself. eddie’s mechanisms are pills and his inhaler and his marriage and i’m literally going to stop bleeding myself dry writing this oh my god i projected a little too hard there sorry.
anyway: richie “sometimes enchanting, often exhausting charm” tozier. gets beat up constantly because he canNOT stop himself from saying every fuckass thing that comes to his head! he’s whipsmart and observant as fuck and can’t keep it to himself and that gets him singled out by the bullies! i don’t have the exact quote but roll the clip of the part where it talks about richie’s face begging to be bent into new and interesting shapes by bullies ANYWAY. richie is someone who knows he doesn’t fit in and has given up on the task of pretending to! sometimes he’s charming and funny! sometimes he’s exhausting and weird as shit! but that’s absolute nightmarism babey!
the thing that really gets me about richie is that he’s subject to exactly the same normative surveillance as eddie and he canNOT keep himself from telling his audience to fuck off! we see flashes of this when richie hesitates before touching bill for fear that someone might see them and subject them to homophobic harassment. but he touches him anyway! yeah he looks surreptitiously but he touches him anyway! like richie is guided by feelings of deep love and devotion to his friends and he can’t help but express that and wow i’m getting emotional about richie too anyway!
richie as an adult is someone who is weird as shit for attention, but it’s a performance that deflects from his issues being emotionally vulnerable, which is classic AN. the movie got this so right with the part where richie admits he threw up after mike called him, and then tells the other losers he’s glad that they’re there together. like, everyone is shocked because this is a moment of deep vulnerability and sincerity from someone who’s performatively larger than life in order to keep people at a distance. the 2017 movie gives us this with richie deflecting the conversation about their fears by asking stan if the woman from the painting was hot, and again when he says that his biggest fear is clowns, a claim that is NOT borne out by what he sees inside niebolt. richie is, in short, someone who’s comfortable with attention but NOT with scrutiny; he isn’t ready to be seen with all of his vulnerabilities on display, so he puts on a show for people to look at instead. that’s the core of absolute nightmarism. it’s a committed performance of weirdness that’s intended to telegraph invulnerability, but a tightly controlled one that’s meant to ensure that people only look where you want them to. it’s a magic act that shows you something shiny so you won’t glance at where the soft spots are hidden. eddie wants you to look away because there’s nothing to see here, richie wants you to look but only at what he shows you.
i think the thing that cements it for me is the book content about richie’s nicknames for eddie. richie is SUPER demonstrative with eddie and is constantly calling him goofy nicknames and telling him he’s cute. but we get that great quote about how eddie hated being called eds, but sort of liked it too, because it was like a secret identity. that’s the core of the dynamic, imo. the absolute nightmare helps draw the sweaterboy out of their devotion to normalcy and emboldens them to be the version of themselves that they are without the outside pressures of authority and heteronormativity and whatever. the dynamic is book eddie wanting to be the person he is with his friends, the eds of it all, and it’s also book eddie fighting off a panic attack because he has to be brave when the losers need him, and it’s also movie eddie directly attacking pennywise because he’s been reminded of his own “dim intimations of possible bravery” like! i could go on but this is so fucking long anyway yes i think eddie is the SB and richie is the AN now roll the clip of the part where richie asks eddie if he knows what fucking is and eddie is like OF COURSE I DO and the text is like “he hoped he wasn’t blushing” like that’s the dynamic babe
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I've only been into comics for a few years, but I've read enough of the old Flash stuff where I adore the classic incarnations of the Rogues. Honestly curious here: what's it like to be a fan of James Jesse back when he was retgonned around 10 years ago and see him brought back but now all mwahaha crazy evil? I'm way more used to Axel (and all that off-panel character development in Nu52, thanks DC) but even I find this kinda weird. Was James ever crazy evil in any arc?
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^- me 90% of the time someone says James is coming back to recent media & it’s not a direct continuation of the comics prior to 2004
[ Warning: this is gonna get long and be full of a lot of assumptions. I can never form solid statements and things will get jumbled, because I suck at presenting things ]
[ this is my can of worms hill and you opened it so I’m dYING HERE ]
I mean, back in the earliest ages, no Rogue had a real personality to speak of? They were just “1960s Bad Guy in a different outfit” at the very start, with quirks! Like James having a thing for toys and nuclear powered flying tricycles. It wasn’t until that era ended that they started getting real distinct and into what a lot of ‘classic’ James fans loved and appreciated? 
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(I think at least, I’m just One Person here pretending like I even understand HALF of what the ‘classic’ fandom enjoyed. I’m wildly speculating just going off what fanworks I’ve seen produced.)
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(I don’t have all my scans anymore but I’ll toss in scans when I have them)
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But that’s when we started getting things like James actually having specified friendships with certain people
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or clear distaste towards others, and when you could tell he was more of a wild card than the others. Or when he decided to fuck off and hang out in Hollywood with Blue Devil for a bit, even siding with Kid Devil to deck out Captain Boomerang. 
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Or when he decided to fuck off to Gotham, to mess with Catwoman by pretending he didn’t know who she was, but absolutely knew who she was because of how she walked and carried herself, but James being James was like “mmmmm long con, nope”
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hey lil Cold, gimme all ur guns and don’t question why I’m in drag xoxo
Even then, he wasn’t shown to be vicious yet! He’d hopped around various places, was still considered A Rogue, A Criminal, and as far as any comic reader could tell by trying to count up how many civilians may have been crossfired at, he had no On Purpose deaths racked? Like, the only thing you could really argue was he may have made someone drive their car off a cliff once, but I’m like 98% sure they’re fine. He’s not a murderer, he’s just here for a laugh and a long-con for funsies because he know he can get away with it!
AND THEN WE GET A LITTLE OLDER, LITTLE DARKER
[ I’M PUTTING A CUT HERE CAUSE AFTER I THREW IT INTO DRAFTS, I REALIZED I GOT REALLY LONG, I’M SORRY IF MY LAYOUT SUCKS ASS FOR THIS. ]
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little more 90s Hair. Little more 90s stereotypical “But what if EVERYONE WENT TO HELL” demon plots against Satanic Hockey Hair Neron. And James? still wasn’t evil? He was a little dismissive when everyone ELSE died sure but he still in the end turned around like “nghgng I’m THE ONLY ONE”, purposely got his ass down there, regretted it, and then beat Neron at his own game to save the entire fucking world. Because! He could! And he did it so well. STILL NOT EVIL, even when he had a chance right then and there to take over everything alongside Neron should he so desire. Like, two words, maybe some under the table BJs depending on how you feel about that pairing (I don’t), and bam. He would’ve bested nearly any other villain in the DCU save like, Satan himself. Or i guess one of those world destroyers. But we’ll get back around to those BOY HOWDY WE WILL GET AROUND TO THOSE. 
So James! Saves! The world! Sorta! Later they fight Neron again and his kid he somehow had somewhere down the road (it sounds like I’m complaining, i’m not, I love Billy and Mindy both I just wish they showed up like… ever again?) and he sTILL SAVES EVERYONE. 
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Piper helps by their 90s ponytails combined. 
Somewhere around here, because dates and timing aren’t my strong suit, he also goes and messes with Bart for a bit. It’s pretty much a Spy Vs Spy episode, but with less bloodshed. 
ANYWAY IT’S AFTER THIS POINT THAT THINGS GET… where I think the majority of “James is a Low Rate Joker” comes from? 
For some unknown goddamn reason, in between issues (James wasn’t a Super Frequent Rogue? He’d show up, sure, but in the huge run of the series he’d just kind of vanish for 20 issues at a time and you’d go “welp, guess he’s still alive”) James went super-cop? like, the FBI? For some reason? Hired James “I am a probably still wanted felon, a man who has escaped jail numerous times, probably never served a full sentence, known Trickster and liar” Jesse. to the FBI. And for so many issues it’s like he legit just. Did this. He threatens to shoot Piper who he was up until this very moment, considerably very close friends with (as far as comics would show Rogue/Rogue friendships), unwilling to help his friend clearly framed for murder of his parents and losing his mind by the day. Despite James talking Hart down a little on the whole ‘THE MAYOR IS ROSCOE ADN NOBODY BELIEVES MEEEEEEEE” thing. 
Also he steals Digger’s dead ass corpse? 
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FBI James is a fucking enigma. Here he is standing up for Gay Rights even though Piper is like “mm maybe I should forgive my abuser??”
BUT. AFTER THIS? WE GET COUNTDOWN WHICH IS JUST. Countdown is. IT’s a problem. James’s personality is IMMEDIATELY HORRIBLY u-turned into “well we need SOMEONE to be the Bad Guy to Piper’s Good!” DESPITE. ALL THESE YEARS OF COMICS.This is the shit you’ll see people who don’t know better or just want a reason to hate the Trickster (despite being 100% okay for them to just say he’s annoying/they don’t like his tights/acrobats are stupid) reference. James is, suddenly, very abruptly, a homophobe. Like an “ew don’t touch me” level homophobe because I’m pretty sure DC snorts cocaine and threw a dart at a board for “how could they make these two fight” and landed on GAY RIGHTS IS TRENDING. 
BUTSTILL IN THE FUCKING END OF ALL OF THIS?After so many issues of James being a complete fuckass prick? 
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springboards himself from his current job of being railroad face putty to catching bullets to make sure Piper wasn’t gonna die. Without knowing the proceedings of this entire plotline, James out of nowhere after so much gaybashing, still finds it in him to leap into the path of multiple bullets and save Piper. Because, yknow, he’s evil!
Later it’s shown he’s been working to take everyone down (y’know, like when he was in the FBI) and left Piper specific helpful notes to do it himself. Because Evil Bad Guy! Helping his gone-good friend! Take down bad guys! 
DC I STILL HAVE SO MANY GODDMAN QUESTOINgsd
But yeah that’s. That’s where we last saw James. in 2007, dead, after saving Piper when he could have easily pulled a Joker and ripped HIM down to take hte bullets and etcetc, y’know. Something a Very Bad Person would’ve done, like the characterization we’ve seen now. 
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His ghost (easily argued as Piper’s own mental construction of James sassing him) sasses Hartley to even, in his mental state, saw off James’s hand so Piper doesn’t have to lug his weight around and has a fighting chance at living. And in the end, when Piper’s fighting the thing that can destroy the fucking world, it’s shown only Piper was the one who could save them? Because his flute, and his musical ability, and [enter DC comic science here]. You could argue this was James, once again, somehow knowing the long-con at play here, getting screwed over at EVERY turn, and sacrificing himself so they ‘good’ team had a fighting chance.You could also argue this is me losing my mind trying to make sense of the things they made James do. (my running argument is he was purposely a prick to push Piper away, so he could keep him safe) 
Also Piper plays James a Swan Song of Queen as the final boss explodes and he’s fully prepared to die. So like. There’s that. 
AND THATS BASICALLY THE COMICS? The main, ‘canon timeline’ comics. I’m missing a LOT of little things here and there, but I’m not missing anything like body counts, or murder attempts, beyond the old Silver Age “Bad guy of the week” things like trying to make Flash’s head explode, or you know. Other “nobody really has a personality, we just have quirks”. 
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MY NUMBER ONE GUESS TO WHERE THIS NEW PERSONALITY TREND COMES FROM?
Mark Hamil|’s OG run as him in the old live action show. That characterization was fun, for the time, and I even enjoyed it cause it was just that off the wall and you could tell it was what they used to decide he should be the Joker for the BATS Joker. Consider it a prototype (combined with all the previous comic jokers but that’s not for this long ass post) 
And if it’d stayed there, that’d be it! That’s it! But then JLU came along, and they referenced the old show for their version of James with a sprinkling of early-era comics, and a lot of people loved and watched that show. That was their version of the Trickster, because it was their first meeting with him! And I can’t fault that! But that guy was clearly off his rocker and I’m sure if the JLU allowed a higher rating, it would’ve been even closer to the old TV show. 
And both of THOSE were heavily, heavily referenced for the CW version, which as I’m at this point now means I need to slap my usual anti-CW tag onto things. I hate the CW James. There is so little comic in him it’s almost disgusting, and they ramped up so much of the Joker side of JLU & OGTV he might as well just be the Joker. It’s not a good representation of him at all. I have, also, only seen his first appearance episode, so maybe I’m wrong? But when you fuck up hard on the first run, why would I return for round 2? 
So with ALL THIS– 
REBOOT TIME. Whatever the newnew remake is calling itself. 
At first! With how James was! In the first panel flash of him clearly behind the scenes tugging so many wires and lines, watching everything with a bucket of popcorn while pulling others to his side, sitting pretty in an old museum? warehouse? highlighted in purples and vintage toys, I was like “holy shit this it. This is My Boy, back from the goddamn limbo-dead. It’s him.” But then“taking over the city entirely” to do? What? Turn it into the world’s biggest Trickster themepark? Make everyone wear striped leggings and combat boots? Martial Law of murder if you don’t carry rubber chickens? This is already veering from anything major James has ever done. As it stands I can’t see the gag here. Its’ weirdly dark and edgy, and way too close to something we saw the 90s TV show Trickster do, in the episode where he basically took over the place. The previews show him being what I’m assuming a Judge, Jury, & Executioner joke– and unless this spins into a Clopin song and dance number and his little hand puppet crops up to slam the button on the guillotine, I’m not having it, DC. 
They’re trying to tie him back into the CW, despite the writer saying he really enjoyed the Neron-era things with James (if I’m remembering the interview correctly). And it’s also why you may see me constantly saying “Well I sure as fuck hope Neron shows up” at anything new that’s released, to explain away all of… this.
This isn’t him. If they wanted a murderous Trickster, they should’ve just used Axel. The kid, canonly, tied explosives to stray dogs and homeless people. AXEL is the not-good Trickster, the murderous Trickster, the one you aren’t suppose to feel sorry for beyond being in way over his head due to his young age. 
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i think I somehow didn’t answer your question
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it sucks? it’s also great because there’s a .5% chance that maybe they’ll do it right and won’t reference the fucking 90s noncomic media. But then they do. And all I can do is laugh and shrug like ‘welp I expected nothing’. But when they get it RIGHT it’s like christmas came early.
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