#i dont want to fucking rewrite my thoughts here my tweets say it all

[szaryherbatnik]

Yeah you can say im going through something.

[shoezuki]

Tommy's prison/revival arc isnt well written actually

Anyways ive been wanting to talk on it a while for a bit here but havent had the Time or like. The thought to. But im gonna go off now.

First off im gonna say im ASSUMING this stream and plot of tommy being in the prison with dream is written entirely by tommy and dream. Wilbur May be involved in the latest stream but im not sure.

Bringing tommy back to life after only three days of him being dead did practically nothing to progress plot, the characters, or audience's understanding. In fact i feel that it damaged Other characters' potential and plot and already established plotlines.

The 'development' aspect

A really, really easy way to see if anything has changed or developed through an arc or plotline is to straightup just compare the 'beginning' to the 'end' in terms of the barebones situation. So;

Beginning: tommy is trapped in an isolated prison cell with dream, his own abuser who has hurt him in the past, for an unknown amount of time. He's terrified of dream and being stuck there with him.

End: tommy is trapped in an isolated prison cell with dream after being killed then revived by him, his own abuser whos hurt him in the past, for an unknown amount of time. Hes terrified of dream and being stuck there with him.

Okay. This is simplified obvious. But the point stands. ALTHOUGH the troupe of 'going back to the beginning' is common in the heroes journey its. It doesnt work here. Has tommy learned anything? Has he changed as a character? Is the severity of their situation any different? Have we, as the audience, learned anything new?

Im going to expand on that last point because i think it has the strongest potential argument. Technically for progression in literature and development of plot/characters, things can Change without them being Aware as characters. It can change just by the audience's perception changing or being challenge.

Slight example: i've been reading a webcomic called Your Throne. Its a fantasy/political drama about a noble lady who entered a competition with another noble lady to become the empress. The main lady lost despite her being a better fit, and the comic starts with the main lady trying to assassinate the empress. Its assumed and stated by the main lady that she 'ruined her life' and so thats all the readers know. However, later in the novel we see flashbacks to the competition itself and find that the two ladies were extremely close friends, neither wanting anything bad for the other, but it was the emperor himself who manipulated both of them for his own agenda. Those flashbacks gave us an entirely different idea of who the real antagonist is and completely changed the two main ladies' relationship. THAT is how the audience's understanding of the plot and novel can be used to change the entire story. We dont get such here though

Some things that were brought to light during tommy being dead/revived:

Dream is capable of reviving people infinitely

This was already implicated and assumed. The book dream has being a means of reviving people has been around Technically since schlatt's death. This just 'confirmed' what was known

Time works differently/feels longer in the afterlife

This doesnt really impact much beyond emotions and implications. If we had more insight into what the 'afterlife' is like beyond nothingness perhaps so. But really it just makes it so wilbur being dead for what feels like 9 years and tommy having been dead for 2 months appeal to emotions.

Wilbur is evil

This one fuckin sucks i cant lie HSKSHSISSGEGDV. Like i was gon go on bout it and i will but it jus sucks. We have nothing to go on besides tommy's word, no examlles of what Horrible things wilbur said could make tommy assume this, etcetc. Ill most likely make a seperate post on how this feels like we're just going to get 'wilbur is a horrible villain' type with him. But still. I feel wilbur Not Being Good isnt a new development.

Dream is going to revive wilbur

This doesnt feel new either, part because phil had wanted to revive wilbur before (ill get to that more later) and that tommy had kept dream alive/initially imprisoned him with the idea of him reviving wilbur.

Dream believes wilbur will break him out of prison

Okau this makes no sense to me actually. I cwnt understand How exactly wilbur would be able to do this? Or why dream believes he even Could? Mans been dead for like 9 years and all we Know of the afterlife is that its black... nothingness. How would 9 years of that make wilbur capable of busting the prison open?

So. Yeah. All in all this plotline hasnt done anything new, developed things, or altered people's perceptions. We just ended up back at square one. Back to tommy being traumatized, dream being 'evil' and horrible and doing villain monologues, and them being stuck together.

Other characters and plotlines

Im pretty damn sure tommy's revival fucked up a LOT of other characters' plotlines and potential development. Honestly i feel this has a lot to do with the writers not communicating with other ccs well enough. But Ill talk about specific characters from least to most fucked over in my opinion:

Sam

He's the best off. He hqd been there during tommy's death, had been close to tommy, had majorly blamed himself and his own mistakes for tommy's death. His grief and self hatred was actually really heartbreaking and well done. The attached character of Sam Nook being unaware of tommy's death and simply waiting for tommy to return was a really good parallel to sam's own grief and anger. like it really snapped sam the guy who cares for tommy and wants to do Right by him back together with him as the Warden of the prison. Mixed personal life with 'just business'.

I feel it wouldve been nice to have him like. Have more time to grieve properly and come to terms eith tommy's death and his own involvement/influence over the events. Him finding tommy alive again Could be a means of him like. Facing his own grief head on if done well.

Ranboo

Mostly in the context of him and sam's argument do i feel it got screwed over. The weight of them yelling at each other and trying to find who to blame and the implications that Maybe ranboo was the one who caused the security breach that closed down the prison on tommy just.... doesnt hit so hard anymore. Because how can there be blame and arguments and a 'who done it' mystery when tommy popped up all fine again?

Puffy

I dony know much of her involvement or how she found out tommy died (besides metagaming shhhhh) but i saw her monologuing of how they 'failed' tommy and like. Her whole 'he was so young we the Adults failed him' spiel is like........... inconsequential? Now??? Like no dont worry he died but hes alright now.

Philza

BET YOU DIDNY EXPECT TO SEE THIS FUCKER!!!!!! But actually though i want to talk bout how this ties into phil. A LOT. for Zalbr ❤. But also because i see ppl tying phil to tommy's death n like nah shutup u doin it wrong. Ill go off more in a Wilbur Post. But essentially: i dont like that dream is now going to revive wilbur. I feel they arent going to tie philza into this Despite phil having originally been trying to revive his son and studying on it and Attempting and Failing. But now suddenly dream can just. Say some magic words and Poof wilbur lives? So we're just going to Kill philza's revival attempts plotline and leave that hanging? This made his efforts seem pointless and Wack like oh why didnt you just Say The Magic Words phil????

Niki

I feel really bad for niki. She hasnt been able to do a lore stream during tommy's 'death' (she tweeted she wanted to but her computer wasnt working) and considering her entire character.... that shit is important. We seen it with Jack Manifold how tommy's death impacted Him considering he literally wanted tommy dead. And since niki is in a similar boat to jack of trying to kill tommy and it being her Only goal...... thats extremely important.

BUT. i feel there wasnt any communication. Did she or anyone even know tommy would be revived? Did no one consider they could At Least let her do a single stream on it? Like jack manifold????

We couldve gotten a Really good niki lore stream. I genuinely was so excited for it and i dont regularly watch her. But we seen it with jack manifold which is why i dont feel he got screwed because mans genuinely did So Good he could pop off with anything n i think it works in His favour. But now........ for niki. Canonically she never even knew tommy was Dead. So its like nothing even happened for her. Is she just supposed to continue on trying to kill tommy with no progression?

What i think would work

This is more me being like 'hey @ the dsmp writers let me in' type speculation sbosegussgs. But i was thinkin on a Really easy way to 'fix' this without rewriting lore and the streams.

Dream should kill tommy again now that he's been revived and Leave Him Dead.

More development for the characters who are affected by his death Especially niki. More time for grief and self reflection and development

A chance for the audience to figure out what the 'afterlife' really is.

Dream is supposed to be smart and a master manipulator or something right? Why doesnt he use being able to revive tommy as a bargaining chip with sam for his own freedom?

The audience would now Know dream's intentions with tommy better, that this death isnt 'final', but we could still see other characters' grief and reactions and coping without it feeling cheap. Ive seen some 'but people dont know tommy is alive so hes still dead in their mind' but that sucks imo.

We'd know more on dream's ability to revive people and that he can just Do It on a whim (which i think sucks but hey im trying) but no one else would know this canonically

Okay. Im done. If you read this. Thankyou. I love you. Hmu.

[vadersdala]

eli goldsworthy, anyone with the last name kardashian or jenner, dob, holland, ruby rose, and katy perry

IT’S ROAST TIME!!! Disclaimer: if you can’t take possible faves being criticized don’t hit the read more.

Eli Shitsworthy:

Where does one even began with how shitty this character is? Like really, at what point does it end that it’s him being shitty, but being apart of tumblr and being in the fandom does it become hating him because you know he’s here to pander to fans that are just not good people. Eli is bland. He’s your typical YA man. He’s the mysterious bad boy who drives a hearse dating this good Christian girl with a personality of a broken vacuum and it is shoved down your throat every single episode. Eli, when I was sixteen, thought he was the shit. He drove a hearse, he wanted to be with my favorite character (who was so ruined after the end of this relationship that yes, I still think she has the personality of a fucking broken smoke detector with how much bitching and whining she does) and he drove a hearse and looking back how fucked up is society that I thought that was sexy? Like he drives a hearse. And a fan theory, I don’t know if it was confirmed, I don’t really care, but that it was the hearse used for Julia. That’s fucking sick, you can’t tell me that’s edgy or cool because no matter who was in the hearse, it is a hearse and his family is so fucking stupid that they don’t realize he needs help. Like his room is covered wall to wall in trash, he acts like a lunatic he’s driving a hearse and got a lock on his door but they can’t see that their kid needs some kind of help. And I also want to point out that younger me loved CeCe and Bullfrog, now? Now I’m like you’re the worst parents in Canada. Like I can say with confidence that two fictional people who had a kid have never been more stupid than these two people. And not only is his family stupid, but they think Eclare is healthy. Everyone - everyone on this fucking show was basically rooting for Eli. Like Ms Dawes? Another character I once liked, legit knew Eli’s play was about a personal matter between him and Clare. She knew Clare and him ended things and I don’t know if she knew the details, but she knew his ass almost got stabbed by Fitz so obviously she knew by reading this play it was bullying. Does she do anything? Of course not. And I have more on Ms Dawes, but let me fucking point out that Eli “switching up the ending” to make Clara the hero isn’t romantic. It’s still airing their dirty laundry. It’s even more emotionally abusive to Clare who now feels bad for making such a stink - a stink, by the way, she had every right to make because this play was literally about her and Eli. And Eli painted her in a bad light. But anyways, now that we’ve pretended that his change was romantic, let me point out this play had so many changes that Fiona complained about it and still no one thought to get him help. Ms Dawes is approving each rewrite, and I know as someone who writes, I, too, get damn picky with shit and characters and plot twists and whatever, but there comes a point - and it was literally the most obvious point ever that any fucking idiot could have seen, but sadly one of those idiots couldn’t walk into the fucking school - where you have to face that someone is not mentally okay. And that point was when he made the play be about his ex girlfriend on an actual night everyone at school knows about and he’s switching it up to make himself the hero. Like he changed Fitz to Jake - I’m just saying, the whole of that season being seen as Eli being romantic is disgusting. I don’t care if he was mentally ill, because you know what else he did? He used Imogen. Oh yeah, I, an Imogen stan, I’m going there. This rant wasn’t long enough. Imogen is not innocent, so I’m not going to put my blinders on and tell you that cute quirky Imogen is the only Imogen, because Imogen is a manipulative bitch, and I fucking love it. Personally I love how Imogen knew Fiona liked her and Fiona got her and Eli together and she gave Fiona this look after Fi sees her plan worked - but anyway, Eli does the same emotional abuse he does to Clare to Imogen, he accuses her of cheating and lying and breaks into a house to catch her and is still seen as a romantic hero. To just end it, in all honesty, Eli is one of the biggest emotional abusers I’ve ever watched on TV. I’m ashamed that at some point I stanned him, I’m ashamed that I thought these actions were romantic - all in all, he’s shitty and should have left when he was supposed to because during s12 Munro didn’t even give a fuck anymore. No one gave a fuck but stans who couldn’t let go and that is just tea.

The Others

I don’t even think I can say anything here that hasn’t already been said. Except, I still don’t really know what the fuck these people look like. I know there is K hloe and Kour tney because those are stupid fucking names, like what the fuck why do they all have K names? I dont get it! I know one of them tweeted at Chloe some photo that wasn’t of her and that was gross but I really want to know why people care about them. Like I have a vague idea what the main three look like - the ones everyone knows, I dont have to name fucking names, but in the photos I’ve seen I know they always look so miserable. Now I’m not saying it as in depression or something, I mean they look angry. They look haughty and self centered and just rude. They seem like people who snap fingers at waiters and just fucking divas and why? They don’t have talent, they aren’t pretty, they’re just rich. Now you can have your own opinion, but I don’t think someone who looks like an awful human is pretty I dont care who has goal skin or nice ass or a shit walk, at the end of the day if you’re not going to be a decent person what is the point?

DOB

Ya know...... I don’t care what people say. I don’t care how you feel about it. I just don’t really care about opinions here, but when someone needlessly tells you not to touch a burial site and you not only do it, but write it off as not giving a shit and then making a joke about it on TV you’re a shitty person. You are actually a piece of shit if you can go to a place where people are buried and people go to pay their respects and take and/or destroy this area, you’re not a good person. You do not value human life, and you lack basic sympathy, let alone empathy. Like I am not Native American, I am so fucking white and I feel such outrage that this happened to this tribe and to many tribes and to thousands of POC burial sites across the globe because white people want to touch everything and need to be told not to. Like fuck any one of you who go into a burial ground and take something, I am so dead serious. I don’t have to put myself in their shoes to understand the pain someone probably had turning on the TV or going on tumblr in this little tribe (or really, any Native person anywhere) and seeing him say that because it’s so fucking obvious why him saying that is shit and why everyone pretending what he did is okay is shit, like fuck him fuck anyone in the cast who did that, I hope they go to bed guilty every night because they sure as fuck never said sorry about it. 

H*lland K P and R*by are gonna be one bc lbr what we know about them is what a lot of people acknowledge (hopefully) - like there isn’t anything I can say about these three people that I pray people don’t just ignore, but anyway.

HR: approved blackface and defended it on twitter and still defends it, and that alone should be like pce out, see you later. But no, it gets better. She has been proven to be transphobic, and also I think made some comment where she’s either sexist or abuse apologist and I’m not really sure, but I know she likes some book that is one or the other, but either way being a racist transaphobe is more than enough to in my eyes to say you’re trash.

KP: I mean, her smash hit is about her bisexual experience, and it’s rumored to be with a minor but there are so many theories on who it is with that like one is probably true, but let’s go over the lyrics:

“It felt so wrong. it felt so right. Don’t mean I’m in love tonight.”

“You’re my experimental game, just human nature.”

if it was with a minor, this line is great: “No I don’t even know you’re name, it doesn’t matter” - I’m thinking that night it did, but ok.

“It’s not how good girls behave.”

Those are a few from my memory, I’m sure the song is way worse than I give it credit for, but then she has a song calling her ex gay and hoping he kills himself because he’s gay. And then her bullshit recently with t**mp and the drag queens and personally, I don’t care that she dragged Tay. As a hardcore fan, do I care that she felt the need to drag someone because she knew it would sell? No. It just proves she isn’t winning like she claims to be. Personally, she uses LGBT+ to make hits and people care more about them than Hayley Kiyoko, soooooooo if anything, I’m bitter that IKAG is a more known song than anything Hayley song.

RR: I didn’t watch OITNB, like I tried but I don’t care about the blonde at all so I never made it past ep 1, so do I know them? No. All I know is that they outted Demi who was a minor and slept with her.