#i dont think its a morality tale

[tossball-stick]

drooling over the idea of rhys and tim just like. being little assholes together. i bet they people watch out of the massive windows around atlas hq and mock the way some of the people look. theyre assholes. as a treat

[eyeofthetaiga]

its a shame the tales of series fell off

i rly think itnstarted going downhill the moment they were making those mobile games

didnt help that zestiria's story was kinda lackluster imo i liked the characters well enough but i was kinda disappointed w the story and berseria didn't interest me unfortunately

whenever I think abt berseria i think about the piss colors that one animation studio loves to use ahfksjd

and then arise kinda came out sisnt hear much abt it

tbh i feel like the problem is also theyre often on playstation consoles which seem rly expensive for not a whole lot of game choice 😭

ik the switch isnt as graphically capable but i wish they were on there maybe id buy arise

anyway maybe I'll play toz tob and toa one day or maybe theyll release a more interesting game soon

[starry-bi-sky]

MMMM twins au with danny and dan except its og TUE timeline danny and dan

ok okay i neeeeed o write this down and share it before i explode buT. as the title says. twins danny and dan (who im going to be calling James/Jamie bc i cannot express how much i despise the name dan) where, instead of disappearing into the ghost zone after he's separated from danny's body, Dan rips out Vlad's ghost half, tears THAT in half, and fuses one half with himself and the other with Danny.

Shit happens, and BOOM. Two morally ambiguous and perhaps slightly murderous demonic twins from hell. Daniel James Fenton and his Twin WHose Always Been Here What Are You Talking About :) James Daniel Fenton. They are both depressed, lonely, and one bad day from becoming a mass extinction event :)

this is because i got grabbed by the hair today and dragged into the SVSS fandom screaming and the fanart of Shen Jiu/Shen Yuan/Shen Quingqiu (????) with his fan entranced me. Ice Prince Core is my favorite thing so naturally i have to implant that onto my favorite blorbos ever :)

After the Incident, both their appearances changed and they're practically identical to each other. Sorta. They both have heterochromia and salt-and-pepper hair. But Danny has one green eye and one blue eye and white hair with black streaks, while Jamie has one blue eye and one green eye and black hair with white streaks. I'm iving them both long hair, for funsies <3

nobody can tell them apart, they keep getting confused on whose who and frankly the mix-match hair and eyes make it worse not better asjd. they're horrifically codependent. please do not separate :)

and because i must. im pulling a blood blossom/tales of the passerine and giving them to pre-robin batman. batman and his terrifying demon(??) twins. nobody is quite sure if they're human or not, and the scourge of gotham are a little too terrified to ask.

(they dont HAVE to go to batman while he's pre-robin. however. i think its much funnier that way bc gotham isn't use to A) Batman having kids, and B) Batman having TERRIFYING kids yet. think of all the new fun rumors)

they both use war fans while they're out, and neither of them use their ghost forms because they at least have the remaining empathy to know that they're more likely to murder someone accidentally as a ghost :). Ghost form is for fellow mythicals and Functionally Immortals Only! Not for Squishy Humans.

Jamie: murder. bloodshed. revengggee Bruce: no. no. Justice. peace!! hope! Danny: bittinngggg. blooood. ^-^

They're honestly not bad kids they're just horrifically traumatized two halves of a whole that can never be reunited ever again :).

idk what their vigilante names are but i do know that the underground refer to them in horrified whispers as 'the twins'. this all stemmed from the desperate and sudden urge to see Danny and Jamie, as their vigilante selves, hiding the lower half of their faces with fans and looking terrifyingly judgmental while they do it <333

[fairuzfan]

I’m a genocide historian and I do think comparisons between the Holocaust and the genocide in Palestine are unproductive because A) the Holocaust is pretty distinct from Palestinian genocide not in its exceptionalism but in its method - the “shipping” of victims from 20+ countries by international rail to a handful of centralized killing sites; 15000 people being gassed in Auschwitz daily (a single gas chamber had standing capacity for 2,000 people) and their stolen hair sold in bales for use as maritime rope and cushion stuffing - and forcing Holocaust parallels obfuscates the terrible and very unique methods of genocide being used by Israel against Palestinians. B) People often invoke the Holocaust as an emotional appeal regarding the moral culpability of all Jews (“how could you do what was done to your ancestors!”) when the same responsibility to end the genocide in Palestine exists regardless of one’s background or religion.

What Israel is doing in Palestine is 100% a genocide. Whether or not it is similar to the Holocaust (or any previous atrocity) does not make this any more or less true.

The thing that doesn't make sense to me with this point is that no one is saying that the Holocaust and Palestinian genocide are a 1:1 comparison. Like most people acknowledge the terrible genocide that occurred in the Holocaust against all its victims. But when they're talking about comparing genocides, there are tell tale signs that repeat throughout history that are precursers to larger events. Like when people compare the Warsaw ghetto to Gaza. I'd say those are quite similar in practice and intention. When we "compare" genocides (not a 1:1 but more of a drawing parellels by disecting the inteion and reasoning behind certain events that werent necessarily actively violent but passively violent) its to show "hey this is going to get really bad really soon because something like this happened before." Masha Gessen has an article about this that I reblogged.

People should care about fighting injustice everywhere I agree. But that doesn't change the fact that parallel drawing is an act separate from emotional invocation. When genocide scholars and survivors talk about "Hey this was like xyz that happened to me/in history" it's to show that there is precedent for this thinking and a terrible methodology happening when genocides occur. They dont just get really bad out of nowhere, you need to examine the precursors to prevent the large event from happening. How that large event happens differs from place to place, I agree. But to say that because things happen differently against different people means you can't examine the underlying reasons behind those actions is kind of reductive. By this definition you can never compare any genocide ever and all the terrible things that happen just happen naturally without any political or social influence.

Arnesa talks about how the Bosnian genocide precursors mirror the Palestinian genocide. She also talks about how Lula specifically should have mentioned other genocides (like Rwanda, Bosnia, etc) in his statement because there are parallels there too. I'd argue that's the real intention behind genocide studies, in that you notice trends and patterns to analyze how certain events might turn out.

I do want to mention because this is where im coming from a little bit, it is a pretty big zionist talking point (by especially American dems) saying you can't compare the holocaust to what's happening to Palestinians because it's antisemitic, which is not a real talking point and actually kind of rude in that it assumes that Palestinians can't call out parallels between their treatment and the treatment of those in the Holocaust because they're fundamentally doing it from a point of antisemitism and not a plea for recognition that the events are mirroring each other.

[asarigg]

hi! so while researching things relating to koujaku I came across a really great short article about onis, specifically female ones and how they are referred. ill provide a pdf link at the end, im curious what you would think. also sorry if this gets too long!

its obvious he is based on an oni and has a relation to the "female oni" shown in hannya masks, but there is another type of "female oni" called a yamauba. yamauba don't have horns (like koujaku, though I think he doesn't to make him seem more human), disguise as men, and are only seen in mountains (koujakus preference over oceans from april fools, but his mother is also buried on a mountain). they are also said to care about their image, stressing positive actions to counteract their negative image. long unkept hair, tattered kimono, cannibalistic tendencies... seems like typical description of most "monsters" but who knows... i also see beastjakus sly-biting as kind of mild cannibalism because he is kind of chewing and eating away at him, just gently. maybe thats a reach lol

one of the first descriptors for onis were that they were the physical manifestation of the evil in ones heart (koujaku having such intense negative emotions towards his "father" and ryuuhou). his beast form is kind of like a display of his subconscious. onis are also said to be the creatures someone becomes after death (metaphorically his "true" self being killed?) they were also not particularly defined to any gender, just the gender of the host (kind of gender ambiguity like koujakus design)

i dont think he is one thing or the other, but i thought it was a really interesting thing to look at and compare esp with his story. its hard cause i feel like i can find a relation to him in anything, so lot of this is probably heavy reaching, but its still fun to think about... the article explains it much better this was just my main takeaways!

https://drive.google(.)com/file/d/19JSDOvl4No6fCP0eeDNVl3ORZpMta-1A/view?usp=sharing

i also wanted to mention while i completely agree with your bush clover perspective, i found a story called "the tale of genji" a man who had lost his mother, relates to the sheltering branches of the bush clover (its a bit of a weird story) "...Across Miyagi's dewy lea, And makes me mourn for the motherless deer That sleeps beneath the hagi tree". also probably a reach but its still interesting!

This was so so interesting to read, thank you so much for sharing with me. He’s most likely meant to be a reference to the hannya, since he has that mask and has horns in his beast design. They probably didn’t use them because maybe it was too much of a fantasy element lol 😭 The little buddhist references too.

But reading all of this I was nodding all the time. I guess even if the main imagery for him is the hannya it doesn’t mean they can’t reference other things as well. And you’re absolutely right, we got gender ambiguity again with a character that ultimately gets defined as female. Shame of their monster appearance and that duality of morals and actions.

And yeah, even if the biting is soft (I mean he bites his dick until it bleeds but if you compare it to Ren’s ending lmao) they reference Koujaku “eating” Aoba several times, be it literally or metaphorically. A true Koujaku fan can see him in anything 🚬 (he led me to places i wouldn’t go with a gun)

Like this is so Koujaku coded, the sparrows going at his hand in the Drama CD cover and isolating himself to deal with his problems and that cycle of violence and abuse he’s in. I need to add this to the essay 🤭

I need to take a look, I have a small list of noh plays I’d like to watch with time and I think one of them was about the tale of genji hehe

[ps1demodisk]

Thinking about the Solitaries recently.

There is not much lore, it saddens me.

I think from his interaction with Vala and #7 in his Tales, it's a case of the Solitaries becoming part of The Heroic Order after Valen's capture.

When he tries to be smooth with Vala, during that interaction she says "The Heroic Order are the swords and shields of the nobility. How can one be unaware of those who serve them?" Meaning the Solitaries as a group server under The Heroic Order and not just Valen.

But from #7 in his Tales, one of the Solitaries is questioning how Hogan managed to catch Valen (referring to Valen as "the captain"), implying they were their own thing before this point.

While it's currently unknown (as far as I'm aware) how long it's been since they began working under The Heroic Order, it can be assumed it's a while considering how Vala makes no mention of the Solitaries as anything except a branch of The Heroic Order

[This next part is from a conversation I had with my friend masondjar]

It would also explain why Valen does undercover work, I think before his capture the Solitaries were a lot more morally grey, definitely not legal by any means.

I don't think they captured him to make him join The Heroic Order, but he hit Hogan with that pathetic white boy stare and poor Hogan was like "oh he's baby... my child... my son now..." and they ended up striking some sort of deal.

In the words of mister d.jar because they put it in baby terms for me after my brain died and I like their funny words:

"i was just like. wondering if they were tasked to do other things before being ushered into the heroic order? i dont think they were doing everything the heroic order wanted them to do. it feels similar to anonymous and how people become white hat hackers. anonymous is a group of people who tend to "troll" big companies and people. leaking, doxxing, internet sleuth kinds of things but morally grey - not really good but not really bad. white hat hackers are people the government takes in to deal with, break down and study potentially harmful viruses, trojans etc. they typically come from a background of prior hacking and creating malicious malware. so with him being "captured" i dont think they captured him in order to ask him to join the heroic order - least not outright. he may have been a lot more morally grey at that point and had done some things the heroic order wanted him to "atone" for yknow - justice to its fullest sorta thing"

Uh so yeah thanks for attending my yap session about Mister Valen AFK Journey :]

[hakugreenfinch]

Ooh Mouthwashing discussion! It's so weird how the fandom went from hating Jimmy to hating Curly!! And the the weirdest thing of all to me- the people who go "well if Anya had just told Swansea about the assault and not Curly, Jimmy would've gotten his ass kicked!" And it's like... no? Part of the point of the game is that nobody would've done anything! Whether it's because they're the captain, too new, or just doesn't want to get involved, no one was going to help Anya. It's wild to me that people can villainize Curly and Jimmy but not Swansea.

ok so uh sorry anon this ask has been buried in my inbox for like to months ToT

but yeah the way especially among fresh new fans there seems to be a need to have a "good guy" and a "bad guy" has been kinda fascinating to me. im going to just ramble with some excellent posts from other people who i think have the biggest brains if you dont mind!

so i will never deny that i fell for most "first play" tricks, especially because the insane replay value is one of the games biggest charmpoint to me. i will also never deny that i first became interested in mouthwashing because i saw post-crash curly's design and ti amo started playing in my head i was hooked on his design immediately because hey what happened to this guy? does that not hurt him? however i will say that despite having been told "he deserves to burn in hell" i did avoid that one thing. i could not imagine anyone deserving to go through all that pain and abuse. so now planning my 9th run and looking back it is even more fascinating how far some people will go to demonize curly, ignoring every circumstance that he couldnt help and that stopped him from thinking rationally or doing what we think he should have done. its actually quite ironic, people censoring jimmy's name and refusing to see him as anything but an inhuman monster while doing the exact thing he did and blaming curly because "hes the captain".

now, about swansea. there is also an irony to how people want him to be a savior to anya and to untangle this we need to understand that the tulpar crew is not a group of friends, they are coworkers, two of whom happen to have been friends for a while. and because of this it is very important that anya asking curly for help wasnt an act of friendship but an employee reporting abuse to her boss. the irony here is that people are hard on curly because he is the captain and he should have done this or that while also saying anya should have asked the mechanic of the ship for help and not her superior. and then theres also the part where anya does in canon ask swansea for help, to which swansea very likely gives a negative response (anya is crying when we find them in the cockpit) and a month later gives jimmy the axe, not lifting a finger to help anyone until daisuke gets hurt.

and im glad you hint at daisuke also probably not being as willing to help as we want to think he would be because mhm! mhm! i think this is the point to say that i very dearly love all of these characters. their writing is brilliant and i wish they all got the help they needed with their problems. but trying to sort them into boxes of "good people" and "bad people" is ultimately a misunderstanding of what the game wants to say about human nature and morality. daisuke wouldnt have helped not because hes a bad person but because this isnt something he can or should deal with on his own. when your coworker is being weird to you, you dont go to the student doing dishes for $30 a week, you go to the manager.

all this to say, i dont think swansea (or daisuke) should be villanized, just like how curly should not be villanized. heck, i kinda dont like it when jimmy is referred to as a "villain" because that to me implies an intention and motive that he doesnt really have - but thats another tale for another day when i dont fear people reading things i dont mean into my words. my point here is that yeah, it is ignoring many aspects of who curly is as a person and swansea's complexities that make him one of the most brilliantly written characters ive ever seen. which is a shame, this story is supposed to be turning our gears and forcing us to make peace with our favourite characters making mistakes and hurting those around them and suffering the consequences.

[arcoiriaaa]

I think i will chew someone head if i see anyone whos trying to be moral police over shippers, especially right now they are targeting Sukume ( Sukuna + Uraume) Shipper. Holy Moly, the allegation that get thrown is insane from pedophillia to grooming accusation.

Guys I know maybe in real world you're not really significant and you want to get to a 'better world' idk lol, but shaming someone for something FICTIONAL is actually making you look dumb and dont have any emotional intelligence. Ok you can bring 'fiction can affect reality' argument here, but with the same logic you should get mad at anyone who likes horror movies with killer and violance, or action movies with gun and punching people. And holy sht Sukuna is a mass murderer why the hell are you simping him??! Are you insane?!

See. Nothing in fiction actually sane. Fiction is exciting and fun because its not define and ruled by our moral code, Fiction is a break from ourvreality. Fiction is usually something that we dont really encounters in real life and thats why its exciting. Do you ever see someone doing 'kabedon' in real life? No right, and if it does its cringe, but its looks really cool in romance stories.

Anyway if you want somehing whos really into moral and such you can go to a church not social media.

Trying to be moral police over a fiction is big waste of energies. Theres so many starving kid in Africa, and so much more get kill*d in war. So why dont you use your voice and actually help them. You could be better people, someone whos really change the world.

And actually im not done. Why are you trying to shame people over a headcanon thats up from interpretation, parent -child relationship is a headcanon, as well sukume as romantic partner, theres no wrong with that because thats just different viewpoint.

From what I see Uraume and Sukuna never refer themself or each other as a family/dad/son/daughter. Never once Uraume act/depicted as a childern so why are you insisting the shipper are proship? When its not comfirmed anything about their age. You guys literally make a headcanon over 4 pages and Sukuna call Ume Child ( i see someone on reddit said that it could also translate as 'brat' a more age free choice of word) then you all treating they are parent -child as a canon. Not only that you are also trying to shove everyone throat of that hc, you then shaming people whos have another interpretation.

So tell me, Did a father see their child like this when bathing?

Or did a child see their parent like this, even though he is literally naked here? For what? Admiring their dad 15 yrs old new body??

They dont look like parent and child to me. Not until theres another official source that says otherwise, but for now their official canon dynamic is master and servant.

Ohh you still want to bring ' but they are meeting them when they are a child' argument here. Fck u and you close minded brain whos think anywhere in the world is having the same morals with western region of the world. In Asian, i think most asian counties is never have a problem with age gap couple, or 'meeting them as a child', whats we gonna have problem is when the child get married under legal age and didnt have consent for it.

Most asian countries is having patriachal culture( including Japan) . The husband is usually older (could be much older) than his wife because man have responsibility to be a guardian, a teacher, and a wise partner for his wife.

In Japan i think age gap or 'meeting them as a kid' is never a problem. I think Japan has many literature and entertainment product that include this tropes.

Should I tell you a bit about ' The Tales of Genji' a classic Japan literature , and considered as one of the oldest novel in the world. Written by noblewoman Murasaki Shikibu in Heian Period. Genji as the protagonist is having a very adventurous life especially in romantic aspect, form another woman to another woman. Do you know about one of his wife is named lady Murasaki. He met her when she is just 10 years old and he is impressed because she reminded him about his stepmother Lady Fujitsubo (whos he also banging) , then he ask to adopt her, andddd guess what, yess they married later on.

Andddd how about ' memoirs of geisha' movies. You must've been heard about that right. Yess, Chiyo (female lead) is meeting chairman when she is just i dunno maybe 9? And chairman looks like 30 in movies.

On modern era, in anime we have plenty of that dynamic to. How about the famous one Sesshomaru Rin from inuyasha, Sesshomaru is thounsand years and rin is just 7 (?) maybe when they met.

Well how about the latest shoujo anime that i think still airing right now. Its called

"Yarinaoshi Reijou wa Ryuutei Heika wo Kouryakuchuu"

The female lead is in 10 years old body right now. But yeah shes already promised 10 child for him in the future lol 😂😂😂

So yeah it is just some example, actually I could list so many stories that have the same concept, from straight manga, bl ,movies , and everything. Meeting your partner as a kid is definitely not a foreign concept in Japan. Whats important is the romantic relationship is developed after the younger one already legal and consenting for it.

[helaenalyst]

alternative alicole reading: they're not just lancelot and guenevere, they're also don quixote and dulcinea

if you are not familiar with the story of don quixote, it is a spanish book that parodies the typical tales of knighthood of northern europe (such as the arthurian legends or la chanson de roland) under the premise that "such a story could never be told here, because people are down to earth and don't care for honor or morals here". within this context, don quixote is an aging minor noble who sets out on a quest to embody the ideals of knighthood in a world where it is impossible to do so and as a person for whom it is impossible to do so

personally i find that criston's character as he is written in the show also explores these themes even if a lot is different. the worst parts of himself are constantly spilling through the cracks in the armor that he hopes to contain them with (plus he's dornish! dorne is based on southern spain iirc as george rr martin said). but of course criston is not only don quixote as he does have many qualities of the lancelot archetype as well such as the youth and the unmatched physical prowess

now as for don quixote's "lady", dulcinea. dulcinea is a peasant woman who has been abused and mistreated all her life, she is seen as worthless and as a "ruined woman" as a result of the abuse she has endured. but to don quixote, due to his "madness", she is a lady worth serving, worth worshipping and worth dying for. they are not in love, she thinks he's crazy, but it does move her in the end to have one person in the world who thinks of her as valuable after the way she's been treated so they have a platonic relationship that is quite special

i am an alicole shipper in the sense that i love their complex dynamic, and i love both characters very much, but i don't think alicent's view of criston is like guenevere's view of lancelot, i think her character is a mix of guenevere and dulcinea vibes and her perception of criston is deeply complex but leans more towards "dear friend i am fond of and find physically crazy attractive" than "love of my life that i would move heaven and earth to be with". he's the one who's been there for her through it all treating her like she's worthy of worship in a world that told her that she didn't matter and that she was born to be used and dismissed. but even that didn't protect him from also acting dismissive towards her in the last episode. even that didn't stop him from committing a murder in front of her "for her sake" that made her scared of what he might do next. i think they're both characters that wish they were nobler than they are but ultimately they are just extremely human and flawed no matter how hard they fight against it

i've seen a lot of disappointment over how alicole developed this season by people who expected a more noble, more romantic version of their relationship when it finally came to pass and i think that no one feels that way more strongly than alicent and criston themselves. but imo it didn't turn out that way because it couldn't turn out that way for them because of who they are and the world they live in. but i still find their attempts to live up to these standards impressive and commendable and i think that they also see that in one and another and is a reason why they love each other (even if i dont personally think that they are in love with each other). ironically it's precisely these attempts to be more than they are that often get them so much hate from the fandom and the other characters because it is percieved as them being hypocrates by believing in one thing and then doing another. which is a valid reading and something i think they are aware of and eats them up inside

tldr i like their bond for what it is even if its not the perfect ideal of romance, i still think it's beautiful in its own way and i am glad that they had each other through all these years in a situation where they did not really have any alternatives of others to turn to. i don't know if any of this makes any sense to anyone who hasn't read don quixote in spanish but it makes sense to me <3 so i hit post

[tubchunk]

me spitting out all my thoughts here as i watch tubbo's vod

"YEP innocent" "innocent to me" yeah like qtubbo doesnt give a shit if fred is bad, he will burn it all down to find her

"its time for me to step into the sun, you know? and who cares if everyone else burns?" HOLY FUCKKKKKKKK TUBBO??????

"this is more than a villain arc, this is a lifestyle adjustment" oh qtubbo you are going to fly so close to the sun and youre going to burn and i am here for it all

"you wrong me? you're not gonna be around to tell the tale" HES SODHDJDBFBFJ QTUBBO ENJOYERS WE ARE SO BACK

"this is not a story of villains and heroes, this is a story of revenge" WHAT WAS IN HIS FOOD TODAY WHAT WAS HE ONNNNN LINE AFTER LINE IS HITTING

qtubbo knowing the server underestimates him and is now ready to show what he really is capable of YOU GO BABYGIRL

"this is a conflict where there arr no winners, just mutually-ensured destruction" goddamn he is on it today

GIRL 26 STACKS OF TNT?????????

"anything to get the upper hand, am i right?" AND THEN MENTIONING THE FED OFFICE WARP PLATE IS ACTIVE OH MY GODDDDDDD FED QTUBBO ERA????

"in my own experience, the members of the islandhave been much worse to me than the federation ever has been" oh my gOD YES QTUBBO FEELING THE FED PUNISHMENTS ARE STILL "JUSTIFIED" CUZ THERE WERE RULES BROKEN BUT THE ISLANDERS HAVE BEEN POKING AT HIM FOR THINGS HE CONSIDERS UNNECESSARY OH VILLAIN ARC TIME IS REALLLL

HE CALLED FRED "THE ONE PERSON I CARE ABOUT ON THIS SERVER" IM SICK TO MY STOMACHDBDBFGBDBFJFJ

qtubbo deciding that morning crew doesnt need to know about what hes gonna do, cuz theyll always be his boys :(

"i think we show them a healthy does of regret" his qcellbit is coming out !!

just imagining qtubbo with his airpods in as he is dramatic, bumping classical music

"the suit stays on until he's found, safe and alive" thr fact that qtubbo does all this, still in thr suit for his date GOD its so sad

that post that said qtubbo, a machine guy, tearinf every block down by HAND is important cuz that shows how genuinely furious he is. cuz he needed to feel the catharsis of tearing it all down himself.

why did he research warp plate mods to figure out where fred is😭😭 gay love stories are getting out of hand

"i made a promise today. i said i would break every block he has ever placed. *i* will break. fire wont break. tnt wont break. *i* will break." holy fucking shittttttttt he got possessed by qtubbo

FIT LMAOOOOO

qfit noticing and asking why qtubbo was at quackity's but as qtubbo askes him to leave him be, he did. he knew qtubbo would come to him when he wanted to.

COY PISO INTERMISSION!!!

qtubbo's action plan just being pushing qquackity over the edge that is so fucked up and i am here for this downward spiral !!

"i could mentally destroy him until hes a quivering ball of tears and regret on the floor" HOLY FUCK???????

"youre trying to turn me against the federation while actively doing thr same exact thing they're doing, the fucking hypocrisy" GOD i think qquackity is justified in his reasons BUT QTUBBO ISNT WRONG HERE!!!! IN HIS EYES, WHY WOULD YOU SAY THEYRE BAD AND THEN DO THR SAME THINF AS THEM???

him still saving all the stuff qquackity got from the eggs and others cuz "those seem important" GOD

"he doesnt need a hoise, cuz home is where the heart is. and i feel like thats a lesson he ought to learn. too bad that his is dead and cold" QTUBBO HOLY?????

"its like you never existed at all. thats my mission" girl youre speedrunning that descent into insanity and evil and i love you for it

"youre crazy. maybe i am! i dont give a shit!" wow hes so aware

"i didnt have a purpose before. but now its to make sure quackity never has a mark on this server" he didnt have a purpose and now, after losing fred, his purpose is to make qq pay holyyyy

"i never said i was morally grey, i said i would fuck up all his shit" LETSGO BABYGIRL

HIM GOING TO THE FED OFFICE TO PoSSIBLY SNITCH, CUZ THE ENEMY OF HIS ENEMY IS HIS FRIEND

NOT THE SERVER RESTART STOPPING HIM LMAOOOO

him literally saying he doesnt care and the enemy of his enemy is his friend yoo

qtubbo not being silly and walking into fred's office and just quietly moving on STOPPPPPP

NOT THE LORE SPOILERSSSSS LMAO

RETURN OF CUCURUCHO OFFICE PODCASTTTTTTTTT

"if youve become as bad as the thing you are trying to destroy to destroy it, yourr not better. youre just a replacement" BARS 🔥🔥🔥

qtubbo's voice instantly softening looking at fred's office and the desk plant he got STOPPPPP THEY MEAN SO MUCH TO ME

him replacing the flower on fred's desk with a poppy :(((

QTUBBO REPLACING THE WARP AT HIS HOUSE TO THE FED OFFICE OH I CAN FEEL HOW THIS GOES DOWNHILL

"why do i bother making anything to help the server? this is the thanks i get" oh yeah he is fully turning against everyone soon

oh god convo with qfit

oh i know qfit is concerned hearing qtubbo talk this way but theres nothing he can do to make him change his mind, so he just stays by him

"just to watch him. not say a word. just watch him" WATCHER QTUBBO??????

oh qtubbo is actuslly scaring me rn

"theres an old sayinf that 'if youre on the quest for revenge, dig two graves" "thats alright. i dont care if i burn as long as he does as well. maybe ill dig 3 graves. maybe ill take some other people along with me on the way" HOLY FUCKCJDJFJDJFJFJDJFJ QTUBBO YOURE INSANE I LOVE YOU SO BAD

"so i take there was no date?" "i was invited on one. it was real to me" GODJDDHFB IM GONNA END IT ALL

qfit still reassuring qtubbo that fred is okay, he still cares for qtubbo so much thats someone he has grown to care for

TUBBO SHOWING FIT WHAT HE DID TO QUACKITY'S HOUSE AND SAYING "like i said. like he never existed" AND THEN JUST BOUNCED????? GIRL.

qtubbo gaslight gatekeep girlboss

"is it more satisfying to destroy a person. or watch them destroy themselves?" AND WE ARR WATCHING AS QTUBBO ALSO DESTROYS HIMSELF BIT BY BIT OOOOOOOOH

his ass spoiling stuff again😭😭

snack break!

PHIL HOUSE TIME

qtubbo instantly leaving when he sees quackity joined and fred joined god

the curse of bad nees bringer tubbo about to strike again with wilbur LMAO

distracted to spy on wilbur so real

QUIRKYDUOOOOOO

qtubbo just carrying thr flower from fred's office in his offhand im sick

qtubbo warning qpac that he may hear some stuff about him that isnt true i. coming weeks, and qpac saying he trusts qtubbo 100% MORNING CREW MY FAMILYYYYYYY

PAC MY BELOVEDDDDD

not pac and tubbo arguing over who has to break the news to wilbur lmaoooooo

qtubbo qquackity's biggest hater rn

damn im sad tubbo crashed before the event but that laptop was hanging by a THREAD

[that-ari-blogger]

Keep The Stories, Not The Books

For all those who are unhappy with what JK Rowling is doing but don't want to give up your wizard school books, I get it. Trust me, I do.

But she is directly and intentionally hurting a lot of people with that Harry Potter money. Trans people are a part of that, but they are not all of it.

You don't have to burn your old Griffendoor Crocs, or even stop wearing them. But understand that every cent that goes to her goes to causing real damage, and exposure and popularity contribute towards that.

I describe her actions as a "betrayal" for a reason.

So... I have a proposal. A different magic school. Keep that feeling of whimsey, keep the love of stories about friendship and the sense of wonder from a story where almost anything is possible. Keep the story, not the book.

Enter this post, as a kind of recommendations list. I have a few stories that I like for different reasons, and I hope that maybe you will enjoy them as well.

Dazzling will break you, and I mean that with as much love and reverence as I can muster. Chịkọdịlị Emelụmadụ's grasp on emotionality is unique and resonant in a way I'm not entirely sure how to articulate. Dazzling will break you.

It's also a story by a Nigerian author and set in Nigeria, which makes it a really contrast to the Eurocentric storytelling of mainstream literature. Essentially, it's a cool book and if you grew up reading the Harry Potter books, I guarantee you this will be something both recognisable and completely new.

The Gatekeeper Chronicles are pure vibes. I was surprised at how essential this series and especially the first book was for this post. As in, on paper (heh) it's not that similar to the Harry Potter books, but holy moly does it scratch that itch.

It's urban fantasy with some cool worldbuilding, but it's also paced very peculiarly, and I find that fascinating. To me, one of the draws of Harry Potter was how it felt to read.

Morality and skill are not one and the structure of the Harry Potter books is engineered to keep you reading. The Gatekeeper Chronicles understands that flow of interest and anticipation and movement in a way that I guarantee you will love.

The reason JK Rowling is a bad person is her bigotry, not her writing aptitude. Do not get that twisted. The way to outdo her as a writer isn't to go overboard into flowery language, it's a lot easier. Don't be racist, don't be homophobic, don't be transphobic, DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE ONLINE. It's not hard.

Little Witch Academia is one of the most heartfelt stories out there.

I dont watch enough Anime to comment on how the story fits into its genre or style. I've seen two episodes of Frieren and that's it. I saw LWA for the first time because a friend noticed I was writing this post and made me watch it.

That being said, Little Witch Academia is gorgeous. The art is really nice, the tone is really a sweet, the acting is adorable

This was a story that felt, to me, whimsical and folkloric, in the same way that the first few Harry Potter books felt small scale and fairy tale.

The other stories on this list are emotional or powerful or resonant. I would reccomend LWA as a comfort watch.

Genuinely, find a mug of hot chocolate and a stuffed animal and maybe a few friends to watch this with, and I promise you that it will match the experience of watching the Harry Potter films.

I have to include The Owl House here. It's one of my favourite stories out there, to the point where I am almost finished a series dissecting each episode. It is also a Harry Potter parody and open about that, except for one thing.

The Owl House feels like the obvious choice, but I don't think it makes this list fairly. As far as Wizard School stories go, The Owl House doesn't really have a lot of it. The story is more about the wider world.

In any case, 13/13 would recommend.

Kids On Brooms is the poster child for my final reccomendation, but I could easily have put almost any any TTRPG here. Tell your own story with friends.

Cantrip is awesome and inspired by Little Witch Academia, and DnD5e and Pf2e both have magic school adventures that are really quite good. That's coming from someone who despises Pf2e's adventure paths, so you know it must be good.

Essentially, get some friends together for a one-shot or a campaign set in a wizard school and have fun.

Also, side note, Pf2e has potions that Trans your gender and that are really accessible for low level characters and even commoners and other NPCs. Trans people are built into the mechanics of the system and settings and I think that's cool.

.......

Now, these are stories that those around me love but I didn't get much out of. I think they are worth reccomending, but I don't have much to say beyond that. So, please accept these second hand reccomendations.

Wednesday. A lot of people love this and I know tumblr itself would murder me if I didn't include it.

Wicked. The book not the musical. I love the musical, but my sister insisted I include the book here, so here we are.

My Hero Academia. I know nothing about this series. I have not seen it. But I am told it is very good.

Summoner. The only reason this book series didn't make the main list is that I couldn't convince myself the school was that important to the story. Still worth a read tho.

The School For Good and Evil. This one comes highly reccomended from a plethora of people, even if I did bounce off it pretty quickly.

A Wizard Of Earthsea. Honestly, this was the obvious answer, and The Owl House already had that spot locked down. Really good book though. Yet another property that I discovered through the film and then read the book.

[violentdevotion]

what if i.....?

i used to have the old tube tv in my bedroom and idec about the foot cancer it probably gave me i miss that thing so bad

[hawkzeyes]

hey i'm so sorry i know you've linked to it probably a million times but i can't find it: can i have the link to your hawkeye reading list pleaseee and thank you 🥳

Hi Hi!! Please never apologize for asking I have the most unorganized blog in all hawkeye accounts LMFAOOO so not being able to find recs in here is understandable

Im assuming you mean Clint, but just in case not I will add Kate's in at the end!

So First of course is this icon's first appearance in

Tales of Suspense #57 (1964) - (he also shows up a few more times in tales of suspense but obviously this is the most important one!)

The Avengers #16 (1965) is when he joins and becomes our favorite little Avenging Archer (forewarning he is a little shit here. His favroite pass time in the beginning is driving Steve up a wall. I personally find this dynamic very funny but some dont)

He is with the Avengers for a really long time. Like more than 150+ comics(he isn't Hawkeye the whole time though as he does have a little bit I believe that starts in Avengers #63-#98 where he is Goliath. He comes back to us as Hawkeye in Avenger #99)

Hawkeye (1983) is his first solo ever! It's a mini series but its one of my personal favroites!

West Coast Avengers (1984)- this is where we get to see him take lead in a brand new team in California!

The West Coast Avengers (1985)- this is just a contitnuation of the previous mentioned!

Solo Avengers (1987)- We find out more tea about Clint's life prior to avenging here

He stays with the West Coast Avengers for a hot minute before we get his second solo

Hawkeye (1994) he's reaaaaal tough guy big feelings in this one

then he shows up in Avengers again in 1995 (yeah I know but hey he is the avenging archer so that's where youre gonna find him the most) He even gets a new lil fit and everything (he looks like he belongs in a boyband and I love it)

Thunderbolts (1998) is where Clint shows up ( in 2001 I believe) and takes over the team! He essentially helps try to guide them into being a good hero team and if I remember correctly I think its either #74-#75 where he leaves the Thunderbolts (I can't remember exactly I'm sorry)

Hawkeye (2003)- a third solo!!! look at our little guy go!!!

Then he... well he dies LMFAOOO in Avengers (2004) and the Clint Barton you knew and love is about to change forever

The New Avengers #26 (2006) if i remember correctly and it's.. well it's a sad one and he isn't the lovely Hawkeye when he comes back either. This is where Clint becomes Ronin, which is a rather dark time for Clint.

Secret Invasion (2008) This is also sad im sorry LMFAOOO Clint's morals are tested often as Ronin

The New Avengers (2009) Again he is ronin here so if youre looking for Clint just as Hawkeye he isn't here but don't worry he is back as Hawkeye soon enough

New Avengers: The Reunion (2009) whooooo's he getting a reunon with ;)

Hawkeye & Mockingbird (2010) guess what, that's who he got a reunion with I LOVE THIS COMIC

Widowmaker (2010) is basically a continue on of ^ with Nat involved

Avengers: Solo (2011) CLINT!!!! AS!!! HAWKEYE!!! Doin Hawkeye shit

Hawkeye: Blindspot (2011) do you like family angst? Good. Here. Have the family angst.

There is an event going on around this time called Fear Itself that he is involved in and also he is in Secret Avengers (2012) starting #21 or #22 where he becomes the leader.

Hawkeye (2012) We all know and love this bad boy. You could fit so many tears into it.

Secret Avengers (2013) again??? yes again.

Secret Avengers (2014) haha yeah again

Hawkeye Vs Deadpool (2014) it's fun! it's cute! Wade makes me laugh and he has a soft spot for the Hawkeyes

All-New Hawkeye (2015) there is some retconning done here

I don't wanna talk about Civil War II (2016) it makes me really sad LMFAOOO but yes he is in it and it should be read because well.. he makes a BIGGGGGG choice here that I feel has def echoed in his characterization since and has caused lots of misleading beliefs about Clint

Occupy Avengers (2016) Woooooooh I like this one it's fun

Secret Empire (2017) He is in it if I remember correctly but I grouch about this whole concept because I thought it was stupid. It gives the same energy as "What if Superman was evil" and I'm sure as a DC fan you know how annoying that concept is.

Generations: Hawkeye(2017) This is soooo cute I love this one. Kate meets a younger Clint in it and they run around together

Tales of Suspense #101 (2018) This will never not make me laugh. Him and Bucky working together is always funny

He is also involved in Kate's Hawkeye run during this time but I've got that on her list

West Coast Avengers (2018) I liked this. I love when Kate and Clint work together and I liked seeing the nods to the original WCA

Hawkeye: Freefall (2020) crying puking throwing up it's so good and fun until it's not fun anymore

Black Widow (2020) Not my favroite run for Nat... feels like the tone is off but he is in it

Thunderbolts (2022) I liked this...would have been super cool if Marvel had kept it as a continuing run because I feel like it didn't get to finish it's story. I'm still sour about it.

NOW obviously this is not everything ever he has ever been in and I'm certainly not perfect enough to have read every. single. appearance. So please forgive me if I missed something important cause sometimes my brain is not so greeat with memory.

x Kate Reading List!

[horizon-verizon]

Isn’t it kinda weird that people ship daemyra? I'm not targeting daemyra, but the shippers. Though their relationship was acceptable in their era, I see many fans using this as a pretext to actively endorse it, which is problematic. It's one thing to acknowledge the historical and cultural context of a relationship, but it's another thing entirely to romanticize or ship it when we now have the knowledge and understanding that one of the individuals involved is a child.

Need your opinion on this

*EDITED POST - 2/2/25*

DISCLAIMER: I am a Daemyra shipper. Read with caution. I DONT ship them when Rhaenyra is a child & Daemon uses her against Viserys! but when they are older, even though (I-can't-see-I'm-blind sort of situation).

Firstly, what do people really mean when they say "endorse"? I know it may seem like splitting hairs, but to "endorse" vs to be okay with something or to like it are two different things. Because endorse means:

1. to approve openly [Merriam Webster] endorse an idea, especially: to express support or approval of publicly and definitely 2. to publicly or officially say that you support or approve of (someone or something) [Brittanica]

Basically to promote it as something people SHOULD do and are morally licensed to do if they so choose--to approve of it happening in future (near or far). To encourage people (real or fictional) to do it. And some Dameyra shippers, in my experience, do not do that--or PROMOTE/APPROVE of grooming (some are too okay with it and actually do, I'll give you that).

I think bc of what I mention later, there's an understanding that while there is not an ideal situation, it's happening bc of circumstances that are in a weird way percieved as wholesome nontheless. Rhaenyra and Daemon are an exception bec of the conditions they are in.

Finallly, at this point, GRRM, writes his relationships w/ or w/o the pleasure or advice of his fans as most published novel writers do. I cannot "encourage" or "promote" a thing already arranged if we are talking within the story--and of course, Daemyras tend to not "endorse" such relationships and abuses in real life. Yes, fiction can inspire people to do terrible things and has for years, esp w/how impressionable people can be or eager to find ways to justify their behavior. But would that also mean that we're laying responsibility off of the people who should be looking at a child-adult abuse as "sexy but refuse to and make as if they'd never be inclined to do stuff like this regardless of GRRM? It's a fine line, and I don't think the "answer" is to ignore how context and the progression of the story goes.

Because it does determine the quality of said troubling situation we're assessing, and said quality as GRRM has written is not an abuse tale. I also don't want to see grooming--the definition--lose its ssens of "purposeful predation to shape victim to one's own needs regardless of said victim's own needs, often turning them against their own family or support base for said domination".

Secondly, you're essentially asking why it isn't a dealbreaker? You could refer to my post HERE, but here it is in short:

Perhaps I'm going to be flowery, exhaustive, and "purple prosey" again, but I think it is basically that that very context creating the exploration of a tragedy of forces stronger than oneself. People love tragic tales, esp doomed ones. It's almost always validating in that there is a persistence of self against outside pressures that may or may not (but usually does) have said pressures be compulsions to conform against one's own happiness or authenticity, even and sometimes especially when the couple dies at the end. That in of itself is a sort of "resistance" that's supposed to coincide with GRRM's whole thing of "choosing life in spite of death" or "we found love in a hopeless place" sort of thing in ASoIaF, but for royals and in a royal iteration. And Daemon is ironically a haven in the midst of it but much more than Harwin was.

Rhaenyra's story is a doomed one not because she was the entire cause of the Dance or some evil temptress but bc the historical actions of her ancestors and the feudal-patriarchal system they all live under has already set up designs against women and those the women could use to occupy the positions granted to men. GRRM loves his tragic tales of love; look at Rhaelya! But they also tend to--long way forward--lead to strains of hope in later generations...which works to make the whole thing even more bitter sweet and melancholy. They also both buy into it of course, which certainly contributed, but from the jump we know these two will not succeed. So from there it's a thing of enjoying the couple as they are and what they serve in the narrative. Oh, and of course the true star is Dany, and Rhaenyra had to die for Dany's story to be what it was (death of the dragons, women subjugated, Targs losing their sense of self leading to the Rebellion).

When there is no or mostly and actively morally upright party like a Daenerys, humans will root for the most impressive, thrilling, or aesthetically beautiful story/characters/relationships that scratches that itch some. You can certainly whack GRRM for creating so many ships that are this too-taboo thing(s), but people are very prone to misleading some things about people-as-people that I think (even with the historical inaccuracies GRRM defends as "accurate" about ages when noble people married) the writer does convincingly capture between this "conversation" in his work about the relationship between environment and choice. At least for enough people that there is something to how he's doing it.

And then, yes, sometimes people will over-romanticize, and much more than I think you're imagining it, anon. I've read some fics...let's say that sometimes people feel the need to dramatically change the characters that always puts me off bec it erases what was "fun" about them in the first place.

Here it is written in another way:

A)

At risk of just repeating anon, the draw of Daemyra for a lot of people is that CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND EVEN DESPITE/BECAUSE OF THEM, they had one of the most the strongest bonds for the longest time (and yes, even with Daemon loving Laena) in the orig story and they matched each others' drive/fire/pride (the last in all its meanings).

They seem (operative word here) to understand each other the most, were the most comfortable with each other, and were the others' biggest support.

Again, it's not exactly the incest but what the incest/age gap (IN THE CONTEXT GRRM CREATED) does for the bond that comes to be, the context of Targs distrusting other houses (often w/good reason but it's an imperfect situation) AND wanting to preserve a lost culture.

Daemon for all intents and purposes could have become a 100% perfect manifestation of patriarchal privilege and male pride: one of the best warriors of his time, access to one of the most formidable and impressive creatures through his state of birth, action-oriented but not opposed to using strategy tactics, nearly irresistible to women an attitude and inspiring enough to men both in the story and in the fandom with his charisma, blah blah. And he certainly still had all those things or was written that way.

The kickers are that he's forced to acknowledge his truer desires to support his family towards prosperity and survival--where his loyalty to Rhaenyra comes in--and those desires are so much a priority he basically shuns much else, or at least removes himself from that, and thus he cannot/does not bother to put on much airs or try to gain approval...which is a very common thing amongst nobility who often curry favor or imagine themselves to be "good" people because they follow an honor code. There's a "purity" to that, an shameless honesty that draws people in similar to how some people feel about Oberyn and Jaime. And it especially is very attractive to people who have quite a bit of shame themselves over love and sex (for whatever reason, religious shame, queer shame, female shame for sexuality and desiring a stronger partner even anyway) and are (at first or never) inclined to not to try to ennoble it but are lonely and looking for a story of a strong connection/ride or die.

That loyalty to Rhaenyra is a "flaw" that some men in the fandom never forgave GRRM for or are even aware of or accept as true.

Rhaenyra similarly could have been a 100% typical or ideal princess--either way, people wouldn't have liked her or found something to say was a damning "flaw" to say she deserved her fate-- and in some ways, she was. Loved wearing luxurious things and showing off her beauty, beautiful, fertile. But she's inplacably different from the ideal of Andal patriaechy because she is a dragon-rider of a "foreign" people-descent and has magic running through her. She also is not either bahaviorall/sexually demure nor sexually ashamed and self restrictive.

Rhaenyra "replaced" Daemon as heir, yet instead of really planning her downfall and committing to his ire against Viserys (yes after being forced away), he appears accept his subordinate position towards the middle and end of his life, even before they marry and fully commitsd to her without losing his own...je-ne-sais-quoi. Despite her loneliness and the surrounding doubt around her for being a female heir, Rhaenyra never seemed to seriously lose her belief in her right to occupy that sort of space and never demurred like some other female characters we (pre-the rise of YA fiction and the Capable+Alluring MC Girl/Woman) were familiar with WHILE not being that kind or good a person (the trope of a Steel-Under-Silk strong, Lady usually has the Lady be good or kind of selfless, sometimes to the point of self effacement).

Both had a sort of belief in themselves to a degree and under contexts that put off both readers and their own contemporaries--for different reasons...sometimes the same ones. that sort of symmetry is very appealing BECAUSE OF AND UNDER THE CONTEXT of a world and system (unequally, but the closest it's gotten and could get).

It's a very heady and attractive dynamic.

B)

The argument of "for the time/environment", I think, is for use of when we have people claim that some characters like Ceryse Hightower, Larra Rogare, Daemon, Viserys I are p*dophiles...when we have Robert Baratheon, Craster, Walder Frey, etc. right there. that they go out of their way to mess up children or teens bec they are genuinely want them for their teenhood/childhood. The childness (full knowledge of childness) is exactly what they (p*dos) aim for.

Sure, none of these characters do not and cannot have the exact same moral systems or values as real moderns (sometimes Western people) do...because they simply do not have that framework to live on and through. So automatically saying a character is a p*dp or a groomer can be hasty and inaccurate.

SOMETIMES (again, Walder, Craster, Robert, these were certified p*dos).

It requires one to think about what a groomer or a p*do really is. Which I've squared down to the person wanting to prey on what is known to them and everyone around them as a "child" or "too young" that is socially excluded from every practice and dynamic of sex and romance that adults are expected to participate with each other, and not with said child (or simply manipulate them away from their security/non-security to do so) because the "child" cannot develop psychologically/physically when said adults interrupt their development and/or make them think is one thing when it is the other.

Characters like Daemon, Viserys, etc. do not try to seek out what is recognized as "children" or "childlike" (and the "young maidens" or virgins the text states weirdly juxtaposes the lack of Daemon continuing said behavior into his adulthood, which true groomers/p*dos always do). All this is strictly against the idea of him being a "groomer", even though like other men and a few women, he gets into something with 14/15 yr old Rhaenyra...

HOWEVER, it is true that patriarchies tend to apply sex-purity values in ways that inevitably encourage attentions on teens (as these are the closest) AND this ALSO doesn't mean that GRRM wasn't/isn't trying to say that this is still a wrong thing for 111 A.C. Daemon to have done and that it wasn't screwy. (I think this is kinda what also "saves" it for some people, that the narrative acknowledges this particular crazy as crazy).

And just as with Dany and Drogo and the age revealed at her first pregnancy--even with Dany having been a bridal slave to Rhaenyra's princess and thus presenting a more visceral stake the latter doesn't have quite--determining how one sees Dany's regard for Drogo as blatant victim-mindset. For Daemyra, though, it's still not exactly the same and it's just that there isn't much for a claim, story-wise not life wise, of blatant you-know-what-it's.

There are about 4 main theories as to why Daemon of the bk does what he does with Rhaenyra:

he wanted to get back at Viserys for all the years of his ignorance and the recent event of his shipping Mysaria off only her her to lose what would have been Daemon's first kid (so a denial of person, position, and his own heir/family when he seemed to start trying to make himself after a long series of war in the Stepstones, also trying to make some "glory" for himself that Viserys--for him--keeps preventing or ruining)

he thought that the issues of succession Rhaenyra or even Viserys might have with the burgeoning greens, esp Otto, would be better handled if he forced Viserys to have him and Rhaenyra marry and combine lineages...tag him in, coach, he's been ready and you're not doing the job right, so let me in (ironically, I think this is very Visenya-coded...no one is going to be as competent and dedicated as me...just [ugh] with all the male trappings and privilege that shaped his...all that) -- a burgeoning storm they all had to prepare for, and he has to be there for them to survive -- he sees Rhaenyra at court surrounded by greens and is so offended he's even more determined--some might read "desperate"--to handle things even with such little...grace, shall we say

he was "tailoring" and "preparing" Rhaenyra to become more like the wife/partner that would make him most happy and rationalized that he would pay her back with his "hand" and sword, bc they were the best bet for their house...yeah...

when he got there and saw Rhaenyra in her "marriageable" state, he became attracted to her and similar to Laena and the duel, decided to "risk" the damage to his own rep...without letting himself think of the possible damage to Rhaenyra

or, ALL OF THE ABOVE...SOME OF THE ABOVE

Whatever Daemon did with her/to her (sex, kissing, near-sex, groping, etc., we don't know what happened but I think it was either sex or something that looked like it would definitely lead to that), it wasn't based on a habit and intention of straight up p. More so him being very selfish, continuing the pattern of Targ men Targ-menning against their female counterparts. Using Rhaenyra against Viserys, putting his foot down, whatever.

Therefore he was still abusing his experience and relation with her, the "child-not-child-who-should-have-been-seen-as-a-child-but-wasn't-bc-society-and-patriarchal-selfishness/advantage".

So I don't fault or perfectly disagree with people who say "groomer!" After all, their priority is not allowing other crazy people or out already-male-scorched world in further footholding for nonsense in the real world. Can't call them stupid or morally incorrect for that or being concerned. There's a child that should have been separated from these practices of sex with adults, after all.

However, I still think there's a misunderstanding of what's being conveyed by the text versus what such a thing would be in real life (Watsonian vs Doylist) AND we can't stop ourselves form writing or showing even the odd and taboo or genuinely concerning stuff when there's something to be shown/told.

It changed to what it needed to be, became what was its potential, AND Rhaenyra was set to marry someone else (before the confirmation that it was always gonna be Laenor, and she didn't know it was him until last minute) who she would likely never be able to trust because of her position, men, yada yada. Might as well be someone she cared/trusted more than anyone else for her entire life and we know would not go out of his way, even shift for someone he thought was "worthy", and whoo-boy, was Rhaenyra "worthy" to Daemon. Again, refer to the doomed narrative.

Now Daemon here is so not a good guy if he:

was willing to use his own about-to-married-off-and-subiect-to-purity-politics-standard-that-could-affect-her-reputation both as a girl/woman-as-a-female-heir niece in this way, even if it was after Viserys basically caused him and Mysaria to lose their first kid and came after years of Viserys basically ignoring Daemon--Daemon's eyes, bk and show--in favor of a man who could never hope to be as loyal as Daemon....IN FACT, THIS PROVES HE WAS NEVER THE "GOOD" GUY (I'm yelling at some fics)

prioritizes "sameness" and it comes off as arrogance--"only people like me can handle all this"...however, he'd be not totally incorrect (just annoying to some, charming to others, a little bit of both and feeding-into-each-other for others-others). He's not only a person who grew up, like both female and male nobles, value having the highest classed and prestigious person as a potential mate even if it may contradict "obedience" and he like others wishes to, he also. Again, the appeal of SYMMETRY. And sameness (albeit, in lesser degrees) does have an importance in how many people define what their ideal partner is. Not have the same hobbies or ways and color of dress, but values. Which Rhaenyra and Daemon have the potential of to the max.

If a potential partner's "worth" to be of a certain category or class...but it's fun to see shamelessness at a point (the limit is of course potential grooming) AND such shamelessness works to, again, support said female character bc it's a great pair to loyalty, which Rhaenyra needs a lot of and assurance of from.

And, no, I don't think she got enough of that from Harwin for all that she did love him (if they did become lovers...but I know you know they were, come on now). Those two had to hide; Rhaenyra's not a hider, not where it doesn't concern her kids' safety at least.

C)

Ironically those assurances come from the reversed--or at least done a little topsy turvy--familial relations, feudal constraints, AND the reality of Targaryens being both a part of this society but also not really on part because of their dragons/innate magicness but also because they are the ruling family.

They are apart from most people around them and find more things in common between themselves, us against the world (yes, in the bk, too); isolated always--unless you're like Rhaena, Dreamfyre's 1st rider, who could and did find female friends everywhere and discovered more freedom and comfort in them through their woman-ness than anyone in her family...but even then, she was more or less emotionally isolated just by being such a woman and a Targ, and the male stink still manages to encroach its way in through Androw Farman and the love she had for Androw's father/her lover's love for said Androw. and as royals, they are by social definition not in physical proximity, thus not as easier seen as any more than political figures/leaders. I mean, sure, we might say "boo hoo", and we'd not be totally wrong, but there is still an effect of treating people not like people that humans have never been able to rein in, and it's important to how the Targs handled many things and were perceived, thus how they responded--queue Jaehaerys I. When we especially talk about the costs to oneself and to how others treat you under the nonphysical protections of power. Whether for good or ill.

Contrast to Jaehaerys and Alysanne, who, thought GRRM notes as one of the greatest pairs, also end up separated by Alysanne's & Jaehaerys' fights over their children's safety and places in the succession, with the obvious running line of it going back to misogyny for the sake of assimilating/holding power instead of using it for making the said society a little better/a lot better.

Contrast to Daario and Daenerys (yes, yes, why would I compare PoV character's observations of a person vs a history book, we get it), Daemyra/RoguesDelight has Daemon knowing and giving more suggestion of longevity bc it's suggested in the text that he had access to the most intimate stirrings of Rhaenyra's head (final letter at Maidenpool as well as all I said above) in a way Daario never did or wanted to with Dany. Oh, of course Daario knew Dany loved her people, was lonely, was all that and the 3rd; but I trump that up to be his observation of what she needed and wanted so he could indulge in being with such a woman and profit from it. Even though he wasn't exactly terrible or whatever, or impatient. This is far from Dany's fault, tbc. Daario is gonna Daario. But, as one person kind brilliantly explained about Dany being a goddess in Twitter:

Part of her struggles is w being dehumanized as a symbol of power but she constantly subverts that by placing the weight of her responsibility/influence into liberating ppl.

Jaehaerys I sorta sets himself and his later scions, by contrast, even with it having had the desired effect of getting people off his back about sibling incest. So does Aegon I, tbh, when while it left the Targs the ability to adapt to their necessities concerning succession, his and his sons leaving it open to duking-it-out...then Aegon named heir over Rhaena...made way for the first stone against women in their house....those most necessarily it seems (after the Dance).

Anyway, they were pretty solid until Rhaenyra's kids started falling like dominoes and were caught in a deceit.

D)

I remember an ask I got once about Daemon showing Rhaenyra explicit imagery in S1E4, where anon said that him doing so proves he is a groomer in the show, where Rhaenyra is 19 instead of 14-15. An adult but just barely AND a lot of people hold that grooming--nonsexual, too--can happen to people to people as old as 34. Personally, I think that the latter is more general manipulation more than "grooming", but I digress and it doesn't really work for 18-20 year olds and up, who again, are practically teenagers.

But I brought up my misgivings about Daemon wanting to abuse children/children adjacent for its own sake already, and it's less evident in the show where the show makes it a point that he wanted Rhaenyra at most stages of her life (when again, she wouldn't be a child-child to them, scowl at GRRM, not me):

the beach scene in S1E7 with adult Rhaenyra, we all saw them heave for each other

we hear/see nothing of his messing with too-young girls after said marriage...the narrative implies he was likely imagining it as some "perfect" Valyrian bride...who happens to be around the same age as state as his niece (still problematic for all the implications of Rhaenyra's significance to him----both in the nature of sex work affecting women/girls AND we really didn't need to hear of that without proving how old those girls usually were to be so used like this as proxies…this is where I personally would have rolled my sorry self out) -> -> -> the probable immediate recall of Jorah doing similar with Dany OR simply Mysaria's observation of this unconscious/repressed desire/teasing him and show!Daemon never having actually done these things -> -> -> of course this could be due to any number of reasons, like his frustrations with Viserys manifesting in looking for a companion in the closest person possible more than that sort of desire

Mysaria: What troubles you, my Prince? I could bring in another. Perhaps a maiden. I have several. I could even arrange one with silver hair. [pause]

This included language of "could" and "perhaps" and "even" (as if this were a thing that she knows it's out of the ordinary) plus her solicitousness to meet his silence and disappeared enthusiasm indicates that show!Daemon was not in the habit of messing w/very young sex workers as bk!Daemon is rumored and told (A Question of Succession):

"and was said to have an especial fondness for deflowering maidens"

Language is important these types of documents. We're given an entire description of his philandering and the contrast of "he sampled" (definite, final, statement-to-not-be-doubted), but there is room with "was said" for Daemon to not have gone around this particular act of seeking out virgin girls. Like how one would say now "I heard such and such also went pulling people's pants down after Marcus saw him go into a strip club" or "people say that Marsha went to Payless for her prom shoes".

Active ("he sampled") vs passive voice ("he[...]was said") can be pretty important to indicate what def happened vs what people believed and could have happened but was never proven. But what do I know, I'm just a probably too-biased Daemyra shipper (this genuinely was not to be snarky, really, you can take or leave my points).

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For me, it's more when Rhaenyra & Daemon both get older that they shine and I "approve" or really most enjoy Rouges Delight (bk ship name some have taken to call Daemyra) whatever you want to name and distinguish the couple. (SHOWWISE, I prefer their younger interations [pre E6, S1] not bc Emma is a bad actor--they re not, they're just underutilized and Rhaenyra is written so...terribly that I can never get as into it...I liked Daemyra when they reconciled in S2, for example, but I hated how they got there and not bc of "the ship is sinking" but bec it genuinely was not written well and depended on diminishing both characters). I'm not, however, out here trying to say that anyone else should love this ship, this couple, this story just as much as I don't really mind people not getting into GRRM's writing.

The 111 A.C. issue, there is a certain odd quality it of being obviously out of line and manipulative...while evidence of being a convergence of long-held tension, a beginning towards an inevitable outcome years down the line. SYMMETRY and good writing.

I suspect that part of the appeal for some is that push-pull of the delight of "matching freaks and the moral conflict of "but....he's her uncle and he's 2x her age and/or they probably did things when she was way too young", but that's a whole other thing. It keeps people engaged and is perfectly symptomatic of that quality of medievalesque/historical fiction, sure, but bc humans love to play with taboos in fiction...to a certain point. (Personally, again, it is that later timeline that "saved" Daemon for me, as flawed as that may be.) They can indulge in the curiosity of the play of "what ifs" GRRM writes and the subsequent quandaries safely in fiction without getting openly judged & misunderstood for wanting such stories.

Sometimes we "play" too close to the sun, though, I admit.

So unless someone's gone off the deep end trying to say that they wouldn't be bothered by a 15 yr old and her 2x older uncle smooching in real life, or try to deny that Daemon was performing, it really doesn't discomfit me that much in the grander scheme of things.

And at the same time, again, I can't blame HotD for uping Rhaenyra's age AND people for just not jiving or hating the ship just as there are those who cannot ever get into ASoIaF for the incessant (to them, too often unpunished by the narrative) incest even outside of the Targs alone. And I get how this is just not going to be enough or that he later is her strongest supporters is enough for a lot of people. But I do want the air cleared a bit and explain the position from where I'm standing. Could change, but I dunno about that.

Perhaps this all too biased a breakdown. I warned ya.

This is all in regards to shipping, of course. 😉 Anyway, watch out, there might be more freaks about you in your everyday life like Daemyra shippers, anon!

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MANHWA REC LIST PART 2

WAR OF THE PRINCESSES

i finished catching up to this like 2 minutes ago [EDIT: WROTE THAT THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAYM NOW ITS 2 DAYS AGO] and i genuinely really liked this. for a manhua its amazing!! the plot is unique and keeps you guessing, the characters are entertaining and NOT cookie cutter cutouts of isekai tropes, theres been some interesting reveals and a lot of people in the comments were hating on ml but personally i found him super fun; hes very morally grey n has definite flaws but thats what makes him a good character to read about !! not to mention the main character herself is great. i hate that my bar for good manhwa/hwa characters has gone down to 'has more than 2 personality traits' but she is leaping over it for sure

PLEASE REPENT, YOUR GRACE!

i dont read yaoi i dont read bl. i have never ever read it . however the vibes were so strong that i had to go back and check the tags because.. if you read it... you will see. its so strong. it radiates. (all that aside i really like the relationship btn the mains i think its really fun. they may not be gay (????🤨🤨🤨🤔🤔) but its still highly enjoyable i love it)

THE BABY SAINT WANTS TO DESTROY THE WORLD!

ive read 2 chapters but i just think the 'evil character reincarmates into the pinnacle of goodness' trope is the funniest thing in the world. i have no clue if its going to be a generic collect the characters take over the world type of thing but i just think its funny and its the newest one ive read.

IT SEEMS I'VE TRANSMIGRATED SOMEWHERE

i have been waiting for aomethinf like this for SO LONG hahah the main character is so diddly darn confused the entire time cus in her past life shes read too much rofan etc and now cant figure out what novel shes trandmigrated into. regular manhwa reader fr,, anyway theres a strong case for second hand embarrassment in this one, especially in the first few chapters or so, but i genuinely really like this just cus its so self aware, it keeps poking fun at all the tropes and its a nice lighthearted read. also theres a decent amount of plot despite it all and OH I ALMOST FORGOT the male lead is an absolute 10 personalitywise i genuinely love him. hes here for drama and thats it its amazing. so yea id say tropey but Well Written super fun 👍👍👍

HIDING THE ARCHDUKE'S HUMILIATING HISTORY

i think this is the first manhwa ive read where the ml pisses himself in fear the first time he meets fl (theyre both children)(hes scared of something else not fl but still). anyway its nothing particularly unique but its pretty fun! its one of those novel isekai where mc reincarnates into a little kid and the structure makes it a sandwich which has been keeping me very invested. this isnt a very good advertisment but its a good way to pass the time i think. heres a nice reaction pic

SUSU, HAN

oh my god??? just binged this whole thign in one go. first of all ots complete, second of all i guess you can say tjis is a character study in manhwa form. there isnt a particular overarching antagomist, its the characters learning to grow and face their own personal issues. but its also a slice of life, and lighthearted family drama, and comedy. its not a rofan this time lol. also the sibling relationships in susu, han are so good !! and theres so many lovely platonic relationships too. i really really enjoyed it.

THE TALE OF GOLDILUCK, THE BLACK KITTEN

WHOLESOME !!! WHOLESOME WHOLESOME WHOLESOME absolutely adorable, centres around a black cat that gets adopted by a young noble in ancient? old? korea. so so cite, read to soothe your heart

olay ive hit the image limit again. would yall like more

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BLOG INTRO

Its gonna be a while till I draw my OC’s so buckle in cus this shitty intro is here to stay (until I feel like drawing)!!

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HELLOOO my name is Chezz /Chezzburger!!

Use my name instead of pronouns, someone of my caliber doesn’t comply to gender :1

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HARGON JARGON BUT IMPORTANT!!

my stance on proship is neutral, this will be the only time I will clarify. Dont glorify toxic relationships, or harass people. I am anti-harassment, I dont claim the title ‘proship’, I dont like darkships. I wont tell people dni, but don’t be suprised if you are a darkshipper and get blocked. More about this on these hashtags -> #proship sitch/#Final take

Please dont talk about politics, morals, etc. I stand neutral on pretty much everything so theres no point.