#i dont talk sexuality much on tumblr dot com but i figure im an adult now so no one can really be mad at me abt it

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I couldn’t reblog the original post, OP(or someone in the thread?) most likely blocked me. It is obvious that they only blocked me to have the last say in the matter, in front of their followers at least. Anways, as much as i would love to rant more about this, itis not about OP but i wanted to adress your points. 

So here is my response in a seperate post:

My pal, as a gay male, I would say you are very gross and homophobic and wrong. Here is why:

(I’m under no obligation to be nice to you if you’re insulting me tbh, but i’ll do anyway for the principal of things)

• You can read and enjoy something thats still harmful to you? I bet a lot of the gay men who read yaoi either know its harmful and still enjoy it or arent aware of how harmful it is. The ones who dont realise its harm are in danger because yaoi oftentimes normalizes rape.

My dude, have you ever seen any hetero porn ever? talk about rape normalization. stop acting as if yaoi creators inventend rape. The only people who link rape and yaoi together are antis themselves. 

And please stop implying that you somehow know better about their lifes than people who enjoy certain genres. That’s patronizing. 

People aren’t as stupid as you think.

• Im not an expert on this stuff, but I dont see how the 

male gaze only applies to sfw content? If you see heterosexual porn, and it focusses on revealing shots of the woman rather than the man, isnt that a result of the male gaze? (I may be totally off so @ other people whod know better correct me if Im wrong).

Yes, hetero porn is often marketed toward males, females are considered as a product. So the camera doesn’t focus much on the male to help males aka the main audience with the self-insert. 

As for the male gaze well, someone added to that thread and i quote them  The male gaze was a concept created by feminist film theory to discuss female representation and usually objectification in media. link to the post[x]

As you see it is a feminist theory, it discusses female representation, i’m not sure if porn is considered as female representation? porn is just porn. Here’s a link for more info, it says that there is no female equivalent for male gaze (which is why i didn’t find any results for the latter) [x]

• Also regardless of whether it is the female gaze or not, yaoi is not made for gay men. Most creators of yaoi are female. And while some of them are lesbian, most are straight or bisexual (and yes, bi girls can still fetishize gay men. Just like a bi guy can catcall a woman and still be just as disgusting).

I can’t believe you’re comparing two incomparable things: creating/consuming yaoi and sexual assault. 

• “An average person knows that yaoi was never meant to be a realistic representation of mlm.” Im willing to bet that a lot of people who read yaoi either are young teenagers or people who discovered yaoi as a teenager, and maybe have never seen a real gay relationship in their life? (Again, @ people who know this stuff better correct me if Im wrong). When I first read yaoi, I was 13 and I actually thought gay men acted and had sex like that. Other kids who read yaoi and dont have close friends or family who are gay will think what I thought, because thats all theyve been shown.

It’s because you’re not supposed to read yaoi at 13. maybe we should ban porn and any mature content on the internet also because 13 years old  might watch it?

• You ARE putting gay men into a porn category. Youve got fujoshis on this site calling real life relationships yaoi. Real. Life. Relationships. Youre dehumanizing gay men by doing this. Demonizing us too, because gay men being obsessed with fucking has been a stigma for a long time. Have you ever seen anti gay propoganda depicting one male figure bending over while another male figure stands behind him? Yeah. Yaoi doesnt help with this.

Again this has nothing to do with yaoi and everything to do with how shitty the person reading it is. If somone is calling real life gay couples yaoi it’s probably means that they are misinformed and think that it’s an appropriate term:you can help people like this by telling them that no it is not. So how about less posts like “Fujoshis can choke LOL” and more actually helpful posts?

because gay men being obsessed with fucking has been a stigma for a long time.  Have you ever seen anti gay propoganda depicting one male figure bending over while another male figure stands behind him?

The problem lays in purity culture. That sex is such a bad thing, a sin. That having sex makes you less pure.that sex between queer people is even more sinful than hetero sex. 

 In an ideal world, one male figure bending over while another stands behind him should never be used in an anti gay propagonda. It shouldn’t be offensive. 

• Actually, youre right. This IS a case of a girl trying to convince A GAY MAN that yaoi ismt harmful. Shut the fuck up and go home, this isnt your issue to speak upon.

Bye homophobe! ✌️

Ah damn I have bad news for you, not gonna happen :)

I find your tags pretty interesting, this sums up pretty much tumblr discourse culture:

I belong to [insert x demograpic here] so my opinion is more valid then yours. I have to disagree, i wouldn’t care less if a stranger online dismisses my opinion but here is why i would never do the same:

 you got it wrong, If someone had valid point then I don’t care if they’re a 16 years old heterosexual girl or an adult gay man. Your identity wouldn’t change the way i respond to you. your words does.

I was refering to the fact that teens invloved in discourse are responsible for 90% of posts like “Fujoshis can chock LOL” (if an adult makes a post like this that’s even worse)

I would never dismiss someone’s opinion because of their identitiy.

Or else, i might as well just puts a list of my mental illnesses on my header, my gender and sexual identity and my race. Just to gain an advantage in discourse. Honestly that’s such a shitty concept tbh.

Being a called homophobe on tumblr dot com means literally nothing. It’s such a strong word but you people throw it aroud on the daily. 

I live somewhere in the third world where homosexuality is illegal, my life is in danger simply for existing. If i was ever  somehow outed my family would kill me before the goverment does anything about it.

 I know I am not like that, not that gays can’t be homophobic (or else internalized homophobia wouldn’t be a thing) 

The point is, you don’t know shit about people you talk to online, please don’t fill the blanks with false assumptions about them just to make yourself feel better when insulting them. 

peace xx