#i dont even like swifties but like

[itsukia]

Ravers going to war against swifties over kandi is maybe the funniest white on white fighting ive seen

[angstydiaz]

AGAIN swiftie mutuals dont kill me but i hate the way when anyone criticizes taylors private jet usage people jump to say "okay but all these mega corps did this but you don't say anything" and im like....??? we very much do??? that doesn't make her actions good??? l

[sonknuxadow]

i dont think its a crime to make music (or art in general) that might be considered bad but if im going to have to hear about taylor swift all the time because people keep hyping her up as the most talented lyricist of our generation when the lyrics in question are Like This i AM going to be a little hater. because what the hell is this

[thatdemiboymess]

Reasons that I, personally, just really dislike Taylor Swift:

She's carbon emission queen of the world and decided to send a cease-and-desist to and then even attempted to sue the student who revealed as such despite the fact that the information used to do so is public information. Truly, I could simply just call it there and not go further, but I will.

Her ideas of feminism are vapid and very white privilege centric-

Which ties heavily into her casual fatphobia and also her ableism/saneism (intentional or otherwise)-

And her continued cultural appropriation which even goes on into downright romanticization of white euro-centric colonization in some of her songs/music videos.

She also sells herself as an underdog despite the fact that she just never was one. Both of her parents were and still are well off - her father comes from three generations of bank presidents and her mother works in finance - and truly they put as much of that money as they could towards Taylor's dream. Her parents literally flew her near daily to expensive voice training and singing lessons, karaoke competitions, and more, from as young as age 10, and even bought her a new convertible Lexus for her 16th birthday. So her selling herself as an underdog just feels ingenuine and the fact that she doesn't acknowledge that she isn't an underdog and actually comes from a place of privilege irks me, greatly, and adds to the general feeling of her being an ingenuine person.

And she drags other artists down - even going so far as to release 34 versions of the same album with many regional variations in a bid to remain at the top of the charts when artist Charli XCX, with her album Brat, artist Jon Bovi, and artist Chappell Roan, with her album Midwest Princess, took the top spots on the charts. Taylor and Charli XCX may not have beef with each other but this move was still incredibly greedy and pathetic, in my opinion, and adds to my dislike of her as an artist and a person, personally.

[notyouraryang0dd3ss]

"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me over and over again I'm a swiftie"

I can't handle how fucking stupid they are. she's all but specially said "I'm exploiting you for money" and they still. worship. her. She already said "I hate you for criticizing my nazi boyfriend" and that didn't deter them. Disgusting idiots.

yeah at this point i just consider them moral-less idiots. in this capitalist world your best weapon is your dollar and there is no better way to protest miss swift than refusing to give her any more of your money. but for swifties their politics are an aesthetic they don rather than a framework by which they navigate and interact with the world through. its how they justify buying hundreds of dollars of her merch but also retweeting palestine gfm’s without donating a single cent.

[separatist-apologist]

As everyone who knows me personally will attest, I am being so very normal about the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce news.

[steelycunt]

kill the idea that everyone, even people who do not like her, secretly and inevitably harbours some kind of grudging respect toward some aspect of taylor swift. we do not

[stilesssolo]

Okay.. let’s hear it! Initial thoughts of the new album!

Ugh sorry for the delay on this. I listened to the (first) album when it dropped at midnight, finished it and saw her say “double album, 15 more songs!!” went “that’s nice. I’m going to bed” fully intending to spend most of today listening and relistening to fully take it in, but then there was a crisis at work and I suddenly had a shitton to do in a very little amount of time which was not a conducive environment to fully digest these *very* dense songs. I still haven’t sat down and done nothing but listen to half the songs on the anthology, so. I am never more jealous of west coast time zoners than during new music drops. 😂

I immediately logged off the internet when I heard it had leaked Wednesday so I truly went into this blind. My initial thoughts are… well… okay! I don’t dislike it. But I don’t love it, you know? The songs are very dense but I still don’t think it’s her best writing (and I’m a Bruce Springsteen girlie; I love a cryptic lyrically dense album). There are a whole bunch of songs that I really enjoy and some REALLY good lyrics. But I remember hearing Cardigan or YOYOK for the first time and how that felt and I just don’t get that on anything here. I also cannot acknowledge the implications of how many goddamn songs are about Matty Healy and how in love with him she was without risking a mental breakdown!!! The idea that CARDIGAN was written about him… I cannot do this… take me back to when we thought The 1 was for sure about Harry Styles. I was present for the Gillette rain show “I’m the happiest I’ve ever been” psychotic break and I STILL was not prepared for the amount of psycho behavior on this album regarding the rat man!!!!

I think I have two main problems with this album. 1: it is too goddamn long. I am not one to complain about getting more content but I feel like a lot of these songs are just saying the same thing and not doing it in a way unique enough to justify having both of them. Like I think we could have EASILY trimmed a lot of fat and gotten these both into one 20-ish track album that would have read better. I feel like a lot of this has to do with the social media culture now of more, more, more, always racing towards the next thing— like how a day after we got 1989 TV the swifties were clamoring for rep TV. Like we just got 5 new songs!!! Slow down!!! I would have preferred quality over quantity lol and this album very much felt like quantity, quantity, quantity.

And then 2: I miss when she used to really push herself to try different things and to get better at her craft. Not that I want her to be attacked and get backlash, but her insane levels of fame have made her so untouchable that no one can say anything remotely constructive without being crucified and I feel like it eliminates some of the drive she has to push herself to be better and write better (hello Speak Now and Red!!!). I saw Rolling Stone gave this album a perfect 100 score like???? Hello???? The album is not bad, but to grade it as perfection compared to others? Over Red? Over Folklore? Over 1989??? Let’s be real. And I feel like this album has a lot of “well it’s good enough” moments where I’m like… but is it good enough? Could we have worked to make this better? I feel like she needs new collaborators too. She does great work with Jack and Aaron but I feel like they know each other too well and it’s getting to the point where they’re not editing or pushing her as much as they should be. A lot of the songwriting here just felt complacent. Get Liz Rose back in the room I am begging!!!!!

Now that I’ve typed all that out I feel like I am being increasingly harsh, but idk. It’s a fine album. There are some songs I enjoy and I’m sure it’s gonna grow on me more as I listen and really digest, but it doesn’t really have any super stand out moments to me right now. I saw a tweet saying this album is not to top the charts, not to draw in new fans, this is for the swifties who know and care about Taylor’s lore and want to listen and know what was going on during this period of her life, and she just needed to get it out there and say it so she can move on. And I do enjoy the lore, don’t get me wrong, but I kinda hope that’s the case and the next album is a clean slate, because… other than the lore, there’s nothing really new or interesting here, sonically, lyrically, etc. I really hope her next album she takes a big risk and does something different. I also feel like she needs a BREAK. Like I don’t want any new music for the entire year of 2025. Go recharge and take a break and come back to us with your best work, queen. I feel like the rerecords and the constant churning out of new music and content is just watering down her undeniable talent.

I wanted to like this a lot more than I did, but you know. C’est la vie. I never was a big poetry girlie anyways, and I’ve seen some people say they love the album (and to them I say I’m happy for you I clap I cheer and i’m gonna let you rock!!) but for me… idk. We’ll see how I feel in a week. But throughout the day today I kept feeling the temptation to put Chappell Roan back on, so… I think that sort of sums up my initial feelings on the whole thing. 😂

[bedforddanes75]

matty healy haters are some of the most insufferable people ive ever met because hate him all you want idgaf but girl why are you going for his looks and addiction are you for real!

[felixcosm]

The way people are responding to Taylor Swift's new album because they don't think she is tortured or mentally ill enough to call it that is fucking embarrassing.

God forbid an artist ever exaggerates for artistic purpose. God forbid a celebrity writes about pain or suffering if they haven't experienced the maximum amount of trauma in their life.

I mean, everyone knows the moment you become a celebrity all your human experience disappears and you elevate to a new level of existence where you cannot have relatable experiences anymore for the rest of your life.

[parme-san]

funny old guy at the library just asked me if i'm going to trade my kandi with taylor swift. only sort of understand what that means

[faithfromanewperspective]

I get the whole celebrating the fact that you actually see taylor swift as a person. but can we please stop already with calling it a gene that gets you doing that. ITS A HABIT THAT ANY ONE OF US CAN START

[sonknuxadow]

the taylor swift fan amy stuff confuses me. besides the fact that its fucking Taylor Swift her music doesnt really feel like something amy would ? care for? i get that amys vibe is pop but ts doesnt really make any thats particularly upbeat which is what i personally see as stuff amy would actually listen to. disregarding the fact that i dont like ts in general it just seems out of character to her tastes. lol

yeah exactly what you said. im not a tswift fan at all ive only heard her most popular stuff and it was never by choice so maybe i dont know enough to be certain about this but most of what i HAVE heard, especially out of her more recent music, doesnt really seem like something amy would be a huge fan of. doesnt fit her vibe at all. i feel like they just gave amy that one because shes The Girl One and/or they just needed to set up for the swiftie shadow joke and they werent actually putting much thought into it (and saying shadow would be a swiftie is wrong too btw. even more wrong than saying amy would be)

[jakeperalta]

looking back in my archive (a hobby of mine) and I'd totally forgotten how many angry messages I got back in spring/summer 2020 for daring to be critical of taylor like I was fully prepared to leave the fandom in that time and in hindsight if I hadn't been lured back in by the excitement of folklore I probably would've been out of here years ago

[notyouraryang0dd3ss]

I don't care if this is harsh- I don't give a fuck about these recovering swifties feelings. she was a gross, vindictive bigot since the beginning, of course the obsessive fans knew about it all. They've been defending her for years. But now that it's harder to hide her shit from the general public you're thanking her for the nostalgia and the time you had together but parting ways 🥺🎀. Be so for real. It's so performative. Congrats on discovering empathy at the ripe age of 30 but if white supremacy scandal number 45 was your breaking point you're not dropping her because of your own morality.

Don't even get me started on those who still don't feel shame and embarrassed openly supporting her.

!!!

[imaginethathaikyuu]

chat is making fun of a dead woman and using the word fat as an insult “real feminism?”

mind you these were comments on a post about … building taylor swift in minecraft 😭😭😭