#i do have a superiority complex about being in kpop for so long like i was there for the best of 3rd gen

[blessyouhawkeye]

i love ulting a 4th gen group and a 2nd gen group because the fandoms are SO different. stray kids stans are mostly teens/early adults while shawols are a mix of 12 year olds and people who are hitting 50

yeah it's so funny being a 2nd gen stan because i'm in uni and still on the young side of that group, but whenever i see a 4th gen account they're always like 14 and it makes me feel ancient

[beautifulpersonpeach]

Speaking of kpop stans BPP (coming from your recent ask), I’ve noticed that out of all the Big 3 stans, SM stans are the most insufferable of all. Maybe because YG basically only has BP and Blinks atp, and JYP seems to have lost it’s shine from it’s heydays, but SM stans (no matter which group they favor) are the loudest and most annoying. Like I can’t stand their superiority complex, especially when it comes to the vocal ability discourse (and one of the most favoured SM groups that can do no wrong…). I feel like even with Army in the competition, they still come out on top when I think about what I dislike about kpop fandoms the most. They make me scratch my head with the amount of cognitive dissonance they seem to have, especially during the Hybe-Kakao thing last year. You’re telling me you’d rather have your artists continue to suffer under current SM management instead of possibly getting better treatment under Hybe (which non Hybe artists always seem to point out - how Hybe artists seem to be treated better compared to the rest of the industry) just because of some weird resentment over Hybe as a company? Kpop over morals again?

It’s something I’ve been thinking about too - if Army is the way it is a fandom because of how fandom usually works as well as BTS’s unique coming up and how it made Army rally around the boys, then how did SM stans become the way they are now?

I think you might have touched on it in your posts, but is it because of their echo chamber in being on top for so long with their legacy artists and relative long history in the industry? Is it also because of the way SM the company itself cultivated the fandom?

***

"then how did SM stans become the way they are now?"

This right here is a whole can of worms I don't have the bandwidth to crack open today cause lawd is it a doozy. Let's just say, if you find the idea of Bang PD holding hands with all the idols in his agency and saying a prayer that they will be the best of the best with his shaman and priest present... if you're comfortable with that idea, then maybe you're an SM stan deep down.

We all are, after all. I mean, this is k-pop with a k, and nothing is more k-pop than SM.

Lol.

More seriously, it's a combination of the two latter questions you asked plus a bunch of other shit and frankly, when I say everything bad about this industry (including fandom norms) started with SM, I really do mean it.

Please ask me this question again next weekend and maybe I'll be better prepared to get into it. Actually, I'll come back to this ask myself in the coming weeks and will answer it. I'll reblog it so if you read my blog you can see the post closer to the top. Maybe I'll pin it to the masterlist too if it's good and I can dig up my sources for the post.

[possession1981-moving]

Genuine question so please don’t be mad. When the ragin anon mentioned bts yesterday many of you guys where like “ah, makes sense”?

I’m new into kpop and I really love bts and many other groups. But I never got the immense hate a lot of kpop fans have for bts? Like they will stan every group but them. I know the fandom can be crazy, but so is every other fandom. There’s good and there’s the bad.

So why is bts so hated just for being them?

I mean first of all there’s a stark difference between the way armies act versus nearly every other fandom, because there’s some sort of weird superiority complex that gets mixed with an underdog complex left over from when bts WERE ostensibly underdogs (a LONG ass time ago) in many armies and leads them to act as if bts are superior in every fucking way and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to be harrassed for it, and that’s where much of the distaste stems for. Like, many armies just have a love of harrassing people and that’s a fact. I also used to be a fan of bts until like idk early 2018? And it was largely the fandom becoming more and more disagreeable that made me stop. And part of what makes armies as a group (although of course not every single individual within that group) insufferable is that they do not allow for any criticism of bts’ repeated fucked up actions re for example racism and antisemitism (I really do not feel like getting into bangtan lore right now but plenty of people have documented their shit you can google it) whereas many of us actually want to hold people (including our own faves) accountable when they fuck up. Then there’s also the issue of bts’ music becoming unlistenable in the past few years and their obvious sense of entitlement in engaging with the rest of the industry that just makes them unlikeable now but you know. anyways i do have plenty of mutuals who are also still bts fans and i just scroll past their blacklisted posts on my dash and move on bc they’re normal about it.

[heybaetae]

I hope this doesn't sound rude because I don't want to sound rude: I'm really glad people on tumblr are more open-minded and 'normal' about being in a fandom or multiple fandoms. I see so much hate and toxicity on twitter, and I'm sure it happens on tumblr too but it kind of gets lost here (at least to me). And among the people I follow, nobody will bitch about someone being a multi or start fanwars to then blame someone for not supporting X artist enough. I'm sure there are people like that here too... But I feel like in general tumblr is more chill at least that's what I experienced in fandoms (bts is my first kpop fandom though).

this isn’t rude! it’s refreshing to hear someone point it out without being so harsh, actually. last week when a lot of new people joined this site, i immediately started seeing tweets from people already talking shit about the way people navigate their bts fandom experience on this site in comparison to twitter. it did not take long for people to notice that some of the ridiculous crap that people try to cancel or harass each other over on that app daily simply doesn’t occur on here because this is a blogging website, not a social media app, contrary to popular belief. tumblr has been around for years and has been such a massive part of fandom culture since long before stan twitter started growing more. and while, of course, no platform is completely devoid of toxicity and this site is quite notorious for its misuse of the anonymous option…the abuse you can experience on twitter just for breathing is unmatched. these websites were designed for different uses and some people like myself have literally grown up on here, spent time in several fandoms, and shared so much of their life and creativity on here. so one would be hard pressed to think they can join this site for the first time in 2022 and think they’re gonna manipulate the way people use it up to their twitter standards. it’s just not gonna work. this site has been dying for a long time and i think the communities left have managed to build a comfortable space for themselves with a lot less discourse or drama and people wanna keep it that way. it’s not “being boring” or having a superiority complex like i’ve seen people call it. it’s just that people from other platforms are gonna have to relearn the fact that fandom (in general) is much bigger than just one app and people engage with it very differently across many platforms. it doesn’t make anyone lesser of a fan or more superior than anyone else. it is possible to have nuanced conversations, for critique to be subjective instead of a personal attack (most of the time), and just because people on here aren’t constantly talking about things like voting or streaming…it doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it. stan twitter has made it very difficult to enjoy being a fan sometimes. it’s not treated like a job here. it’s just fun and good vibes as long as you curate your dashboard to your liking and do what YOU want, not what everyone else tells you to do. keep it healthy.

[writingblackpink]

Fire Burning (On the Dance Floor)

genre: angsty

word count: 1.9k

pairing: lisa x reader

request: a Lisa one shot where the reader is Blackpink's choreographer and a well-known dancer in the kpop industry. Lisa and reader have to work (close) together on a choreo for the show. there has always been some kind of unspoken tension which this times breaks out in an argument.

A/N: hmmm...I got this request a really long time ago and the actual piece has been sitting in my drafts for MONTHS. I just wasn't sure if I really liked it, but I think it's time to finally release it to the world. There will be a part 2 but pls don't come for me if it doesn't come soon!

–

“Lisa is getting on my last fucking nerve,” you breathed into the phone, exasperated.

You didn’t know who else to call and vent to, so you called your mother, someone you were sure wouldn’t try to sell your insight to the nearest celebrity gossip website. You could see the headlines already, “Blackpink’s Lisa Difficult to Work With???”, “Blackpink’s Lisa a Diva???”. You had worked in the industry long enough to know the story would be skewed into something that was very far from the truth, so you didn’t take your chances venting to just anyone and everyone. You’d learned that lesson the hard way long ago.

You were asked to choreograph for YG’s girl group, Blackpink, for their upcoming show and you jumped on the opportunity as fast as possible. You had quite the portfolio, choreographing for almost every girl group and female soloist in kpop at that moment, but you saw the opportunity to grow into a global market by choreographing for the biggest kpop girl group in the world and you couldn’t say no.

You couldn’t say no, but that didn’t mean it was easy work. You’ve been working with the girls on group dances for almost a week now, and it was going well, except for the fact Lisa won’t let you do your job. It’s always “what if we do this instead?” or, “I think that move looks too awkward for us,” or, “I think it would be better if we didn’t do that.” Which is fine! You’ve learned to work with many different groups and you always wanted to make sure their input was incorporated into the final product. Collaboration and creativity were the beacons of why you do what you do. They’re artists too after all, but it was getting excessive, the dances didn’t even look like what you originally choreographed. You were starting to wonder why YG even hired you when they had Lisa. You’ve had a lot of time to watch her this week, and you knew she was talented, she could do this herself. You admired the way she moved, smooth like the softest of waterfalls, and you envied her just slightly knowing that although you were good at what you did, you would never be THAT good.

While you acknowledged the talent, you were still annoyed. It was starting to feel like this was all a waste of time to you and you knew the other members could sense the tension between the two of you in the way Lisa only looked to them for validation when she spoke about changing the choreo and how you tried ignoring her as time went on. You could tell that they sensed it in the way they awkwardly agreed with one or the other, almost like they were trying to please both of their divorced parents.

“I’m just so tired of this. I mean, doesn’t she know who I am?” You knew you sounded too arrogant for your own good, but you also knew you were one of Korea’s best dancers and choreographers. You didn’t get that label from doing shitty work. After a few more minutes, your mom talked you off the ledge, telling you that you were being stubborn and to calm down and not get too cocky, and you knew she was right. Nothing good would come of this internalized superiority complex you had going on. Besides, you started your solo work with Lisa tomorrow, and you needed to be calm, cool, and collected in order to not blow up on her during practice.

–

You were fiddling with the stereo system when she walked in, not turning to acknowledge her presence, too focused on getting the technology to work.

“Hey,” She said casually, dropping her bag at the back without making eye contact, and you responded in the same way. Great, this was going to be a long day.

You showed her the choreography for the song first, which she looked apprehensive about but didn’t voice it. You helped her get the moves just right, helping position her body in a way that would look best on stage. Neither of you said much, but the air was hot and stiff the closer you got to her, your fingers tingling at every point they touched her skin. Your touch lingered just a little bit too long each time, wanting to savor the way this felt. There was some weird string tied between the two of you, straining, taut, threatening to snap at any moment. You didn’t think much of it, focusing on getting this practice over with. She picked the dance up quickly, almost getting the whole routine down in one go before speaking up.

“You know, I’m thinking this whole section could be better…” and you zoned out at that. It was definitely going to be a long day.

-

A few hours and basically a whole new dance later, you found yourself slouched against the front mirror during a break. Lisa had gone outside for a break, and you were left alone with your thoughts. Your thoughts about how your blood was boiling in this situation. What started off as gentle touches evolved into slightly more forceful directions of how Lisa should be moving, desperate to just get her to do what you wanted her to do without questioning it for one minute. She wasn’t ever aggressive or inherently mean, and you think that’s what put you more on edge. Innocent Lisa could do no wrong.

You were alone with your thoughts about how hot it was when Lisa took the lead, telling you what she wanted to do instead. Your brain was at odds with itself, clearly, and you didn’t know where it all was coming from. If her goal was to get under your skin this week, she sure did her job. You would definitely snap if you didn’t say something.

You were staring at the grain of the wood floors trying to clear your mind of this confusion when you heard the door click and knew Lisa was making her way back. You didn’t lift your head to meet her eyes when she did so, not yet ready to be pulled back out to reality.

“Are you okay?” you heard her ask from across the room, innocent, warm, different from the way she made you feel. You were confused, mostly with yourself. How could you be feeling mad, angry, sad, and….aroused? All at the same time? You could feel the string between the two of you begin to fray where it was pulled so tight, splintering.

“Lisa, why am I here?” you kept your gaze focused on the floor, and you were surprised that your own voice came out so exhausted, hurt.

“Oh, um...I–” she mumbled out as she took a few steps closer to you before you cut her off, sounding angrier than before.

“Because whatever is happening here is starting to feel like a waste of my time.” When you looked back up at her, you noticed that she was still slowly making her way to you. You stood up to meet her just as she stopped just in front of you, silent.

“I don’t mind the collaboration, but this isn’t my choreography anymore. You’re clearly more than capable of doing this yourself.” It was more stern than you expected to get out, trying to make it clear that it was pointless for you to even be here.

It seemed like your plan backfired as Lisa leaned in even closer, too close knowing you were the only people in the room, and teasingly whispered against your lips. “Maybe you should just be better at your job.”

It wasn’t what she said that had the string snapping so fast it almost gave you whiplash, it was the unapologetic smirk she punctuated her words with. It was as if she was trying to get a rise out of you; like she’s been trying to get you to react all week; like she’s been testing your limits to see how far she could take–this–before you broke.

You pushed yourself forward from the mirror reaching for Lisa’s wrists, but the force at which you did so combined with your clumsiness sent you tumbling straight forward into her. It took a few moments for you to realize the position you were in. Your hands were wrapped around her wrists where they were pinned next to her head on the floor.

You noticed the way your bodies pressed together, and your nose pressed against her shoulder, taking in her scent. Then you remembered the situation and immediately pulled back, surveying Lisa’s face, wordless, silent. You couldn’t read her face, eyes lidded and looking at you with something you couldn’t quite place, lips still in a lopsided grin and one eyebrow raised in intrigue.

"You're being unusually bold right now, Y/N."

You searched for the words to say, something to retort with, but nothing came and you found yourself dumbfounded and embarrassed by this turn of events until–

“Why don’t you just kiss me already? I see the way you look at me during practice. I feel the way your touch lingers just a little too long. So why don’t you just–” and you cut her off by pressing your lips to hers in a hurried kiss, more so to stop the flow of humiliation than anything, although you weren’t sure this was better.

You were about to pull away when you felt Lisa’s lips finally move against yours, deepening. She was actually kissing you back, but you didn’t have the brainpower to actually understand what was happening. Teeth and tongues clashing in a way that made you want more and more. The tension was finally breaking beautifully after all these days.

Your teeth pulled Lisa’s bottom lip, dragging it towards you before letting it slap back against her teeth. This caused you to pull away just enough to suck in a breath of air, oxygen making its way to your struggling brain cells.

Realization sinks in quickly. You had all but tackled Lisa to the ground (unintentionally, but still), and here you were taking advantage of the way you had her pinned between your body and the ground. Your fuzzy brain couldn’t even comprehend the fact that you were kissing Lisa and she was actually kissing you back. Your eyes widen as you notice her expression soften like she didn’t really expect you to make a move at all, and honestly, neither did you.

Your mind buzzes. YG is definitely firing you for this. This is exactly the ammunition Lisa needs to get rid of you once and for all, just like you thought she wanted. You scramble to get up, turning to face away from Lisa who propped herself up on her elbows to get a better look as you pace back and forth across the room, one hand running through your hair while your other hand gently tapping your lips where Lisa’s had just been.

Eventually, you stop pacing and stand in the middle of the room, staring at your own reflection in the mirror in front of you.

“Um, I...I think we’re done here for today, don’t you?” You choke out without making eye contact, heading to grab your things in the corner of the room.

“Y/N, wait a minute-” You hear Lisa say softly from where she’s still sitting on the floor in the middle of the room, propped up on her elbows, looking at you curiously. If you had dared to spare her a glance, you would’ve seen the confusion and genuine concern behind her eyes.

“I’ll...see you tomorrow, Lisa.” You say as you leave the room, not turning around when Lisa yelps out another “Wait–” behind you.

[shewhotellsstories]

i really dont wanna annoy you but you post about racism in fandom sometimes so i thought you'd be the right person to ask. i hope this doesnt come off as expecting u to be my teacher. yesterday someone said they didnt trust white zk shippers and i thought it was mean but then people started sending the them all these nasty messages and i started to worry maybe op was right. honestly a lot of this stuff is pretty new for me. i think our fandom is inclusive & unlike the rest of the atla fandom we actually like katara. but i'm trying to learn.

why would it be a problem that a lot of zk fics have katara looking after zuko? i always just felt like he needed it more bc he was abused and kataras better at dealing with feelings and she's good at taking care of people. is fire lady katara still ok? is there racism in our fandom? there are a lot of woc zks and i've seen them get hate for it. but the messages op got were pretty bad too. i know i'm asking a lot of questions i just hate the thinking that we might be as bad as the z*kka stans have been saying all year.

This is gonna get long so I’m just gonna jump right in. When I listened to fansplaining’s episode on fandom racism one of the guests said white fans who can acknowledge that fandom racism exists tend to frame it as “just a few bad apples” and get caught up in worrying about not looking like a “bad apple” instead of making fandoms spaces that aren’t hostile for BIPOC. Jag offs hiding behind anon to tell women of color who ship zutara that we have a creepy fetish for imperialism and colonialism suck, but your biggest concern really shouldn’t be the optics or if you can claim superiority over zukka stans.

Yeah the “katara’s a homophobe” nonsense didn’t come from our end of the fandom, but it feels naive at best or dishonest at worst to act like the zutara fandom is uniquely immune to fandom racism. A creator I follow made the excellent point that allyship conditional upon if a poc talks "nicely" about racism is still white supremacy. I believe poc need to be allowed to vent and be salty or angry without being tone-policed. I definitely have my days where I’m like “ugh white people,” or "why must white fans be like this," so I get where the OP was coming from. Ironically the folks that sent them anon hate proved their point. You can always count on hit dogs to hollar.

Fandom is only escapist for some people. It doesn’t exist in a vacuum so you’ll find racism in fandom because there’s racism in the world. Navigating that gets exhausting. There are certain things I enjoy, but for the sake of my sanity I'll only talk about it with friends in real life or only follow fans of color. Before I follow white fans I need to see first that they’re not the kind of person who inspires posts about fandom racism. A good friend of mine loves Star Wars, Kpop, and gaming but after years of attempts at calling in she decided that she’d only interact with woc in those spaces. Again, you get tired.

ATLA wasn’t on my radar until last year so I definitely haven’t read every zutara fic out there but I have noticed a lot of fics do tend to have Katara being the one comforting and supporting Zuko. It’s not inherently wrong of course, it’s just in the grand scheme of things in fiction woc are often cast as eternal caretakers and confidants in fiction:

“How characters of color are portrayed in fanworks, especially fanfiction, is worse than the actual films. They are portrayed as supportive, almost invisible understudies. Any characteristics which they possess in the [MCU] films are stripped and given to other white characters. It is not only erasure. It’s a theft of identity.

Characters of color are positioned within storylines to support the main, white characters. Even within the slash biracial pairings, the character of color is underdeveloped and in a position of servitude within the relationship.”

TheNavyLanguage, Fansplaining

As the quote above points out this honestly happens in a lot of fandoms. I’ve read fanfic for books, movies, tv shows, and comics and I can’t help but notice that in fics the writers often have the non-white character or-- if neither character is white--the darker skinned character being the care-taker, the bodyguard, or the person who is performing all the emotional labor. It’s not inherently wrong to have a character of color have a nurturing personality, you just have to remember that since Black and brown folks have been saddled with narrative after narrative where we exist to serve leaning into dynamics where the non-white or darker skinned character is providing all the emotional support and getting very little in return has some unfortunate implications.

It’s not better if instead of being defined as the avatar’s girl, Katara’s the fire lord’s girl. Part of the appeal of zutara for me is the idea that Katara could lay down some of her burdens and get some much needed support. I always imagine she’d have some major issues after the war.

"i always just felt like he needed it more bc he was abused and kataras better at dealing with feelings and she's good at taking care of people."

I’m going to push back against that statement. Yes, Katara didn't grow up in an abusive household but she has pain and trauma of her own. In fact I’d argue that her believing it’s her job to take care of everyone is rooted in her trauma. Katara needs support and care just as much as anyone else does.

Having read a lot of fics revolving around abuse victims in different fandoms I’ve observed that if fans feel a character’s trauma wasn’t properly addressed in canon, they’ll give them a lot of TLC in fics. But again, reducing the non-white or darker-skinned character to a glorified therapist has some implications.

I feel like the Fire Lady Katara headcanon's been talked to death so long-story short, it’s not inherently racist but it can problematic if it's not clear that Katara is Katara of the Water Tribe wherever she lives. Fics and art where her crown has a crescent moon, she wears blue, or Zuko wears blue when she's in red are the executions I'm fondest of.

When in doubt just listen when poc talk about uncomfortable trends in the fandom. Give fansplaining’s episodes on fandom racism a listen here, here, and here. And very loosely quoting my favorite professor just remember that if a marginalized person says they’re distrustful of a group of people or institution it usually happens after a lot of bad experiences. Don’t center your own comfort and hurt feelings.

“If we truly believe in fandom’s progressive credentials, then perhaps it is necessary for us to listen to critiques that make us uncomfortable rather than those that keep arguing that the status quo is perfectly acceptable—even as there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Perhaps then we will be able to come at these, yes, these very complex and nuanced discussions with the type of openness and good faith that is required for them to succeed, rather than approaching them with hostility.”

-Rukmini Pande, Fansplaining

[akookminsupporter]

It me, the big bad multifan anon. *kisses*

1. Glad to have someone new to fight that’s not a taekook anon? Please take this response as lightly as I mean it. I am not offended by your response or the other responses I skimmed. I do take offense at the person who disliked Ateez, so rude taking potshots at my other favorite boys. Jungkook vs Jongho sing off when? (I lie, Jongho is too nice to be subjected to Army).

2. Saying I love BTS but I have problems with the fandom does not downgrade my argument. You can love something but have problems with things associated with it.

3. I think we’re coming at this from very different angles. I run in a lot of fandom spaces. Some of y’all say that I’m wasting my time doing that; that’s fine, but fandom is important to me (also you’re fighting with me on a fan blog so don’t fall off that high horse lmao). I’ve been in many over the years. When I mention stans I don’t talk about casual listeners but people who are active in online fan spaces. And Army has a pretty embarrassing reputation online of saying things without knowing context or believe BTS is unique in ways they aren’t. That’s specifically what fans I speak about. Obviously it’s in part love; when I’m having a bad day I have a BTS pick me up playlist and I actually keep BTS songs for special occasions so I don’t get tired of them, because it’s so special to me. No other group I treat like that.

4. Buuuuut. I think the One True Group idea perpetuates this behavior. I think Army and Blinks tend to be the worst, and not just because they’re big because other big name groups have better behaved fans, but because they tend to have a lot of the one group superiority complex.

5. So my opinion that you should explore beyond your favorites IF you want to involve yourself in kpop spaces.

6. Oh, and I didn’t mean that at you. I already knew your stance on others groups as a been there didn’t like it. My problem is with superiority complex’s stans have without looking past BTS ever.

7. I concede Jackson was a bad example, Blow is just my fav song of the year so far.

Anyways this is getting too long, I’m stoked about the anthology album even though they denied us Ddaeng. :/

This came out as a cocky, sarcastic and ironically with a hint of a superiority complex. You're a better fan because you like several groups and are in several fandoms. Let's have a party. I'll post this ask out of politeness but I think this conversation ends here. Anon, if I don't want to talk about tkkrs, I just don't do it. I just have to say that you, whoever is reading this can like 1 or a thousand groups. You can be a fan of BTS only or them and 5 other groups. That doesn't make you better or worse, it just makes you a person with a varied taste in music and maybe content in general. Anon, it's true that many fans have problems, extreme and biased opinions about many things. Many fans think they are superior because BTS is on top and that feeling of superiority makes them be stupid and say stupid things but that doesn't mean being a fan of just one group is bad. And that's basically what you said. You multi fans have a lot of problems too, some of you are "fans" of bts but are upset that your other favs don't earn what bts earn or don't have what bts has. "It's not fair for bts to win again, I'm a fan of them too but X group deserved it more" I've read more than one multi fan say. That doesn't sound good either.

People can like and be fans of whoever they want.

If they don't want to listen to other groups, that's their problem, they may be the ones missing out. But it's THEM. I don't understand how that's YOUR problem or anyone else's problem.

[moons-and-stars-and-shit]

Requested by: @sora-san-senpai

○Basic info::

●she/her pronouns

●Bisexual

●personality is INTP-T type

●A Taurus

●an oikawa and yamaguchi kinnie (How contradicting)

○appearance::

●5'6 ft

●Asian (more on the Indian side)

●dark chocolate brown hair (till my waist)

●got a medium bank but nice tiddies and thicc thighs😩

●brown eyes

●dark circles😔

●glasses

●chubby cheeks

●I have bangs too

●thin lips

●I stay at home most of the time so-sweatpants, a loose tee and occasional outings- that skater skirt and hoodie shit.

●an invisible mole on my upper lip

○personality::

●introverted

●likes procastinating

●severe adhd

●lazy

●foodie

●no sports except maybe swimming, tennis and volleyball

●stay at home

●sucker for late night drives

●night owl

●rain. I love rain ..

●bipolar

●sometimes superiority complex

●but sometimes inferiority complex

●playful

●friendly

●kind

●supportive

●insecure

●adaptable

●I can adapt to a person's liking somehow

●not really emotional

●rarely cries

●A weird pervy personality

●(bipolar amirite 😩😩)

●I constantly focus on the negative instead of the positive

○hobbies::

●writing

●reading

●art

●music

●baking/cooking

●learnt around 7 languages

○likes

●Rain

●anime

●kpop

●reading

●angst(idk-)

●food

●A bug sucker for that ancient far East dynasty thing- (like china/japan/korea)

●Cats ... baby cats

●sour and spicy things

○dislikes::

●try hards

●no exercise pls

●mis judging me

●not accepting me for me

●bullies

○Ideal relationship::

●supportive s/o

●loving

●dorky

●if they are hurting I want to help them

●someone close to my personality

●honest

●loves me for me and very much

●playful, never a dull moment

●low-key wants a clingy (not really clingy ) s/o

●and id love to baby you

●spoil u

● sugar mommy-NO

this is long sorry for the wait(^^)

@sora-san-senpai

Romantic Matchup

Kenma Kozume

How Y’all Met

Okkkk

So you we’re originally friends with Kuroo

Mans sure has a type when it comes to friends

But anyways

He noticed how you and Kenma STRUGGLED with making new friends

So he did what any good friend would do and introduced you two

He was expecting you two to be all shy with each other

Honestly he was expecting y’all just to not talk to each other

What he DIDNT expect was for you two to hit it off so we’ll 😀

Like shit after he introduced you two

Y’all were talking like crazy

Y’all just had a lot in common

Soon enough you two started hanging out

Without Kuroo 🥲

They would be very simple hangouts

Like playing games at his house

Baking at yours

Or even just sitting on the couch enjoying each other’s company

So you two became extremely close

And one day

Some creep at school was harassing you

So you know what our boy kenma did

Defended you of course!

He walked up to you two and pretended to be your boyfriend

And he told the dude to buzz off

Of course you thanked him

And it was that moment he realized that he ACTUALLY wanted to be your boyfriend

He wanted to be that person you could ALWAYS count on to protect you

So he asked how you would feel about actually dating

And that’s when you confessed your feelings for him

And bippidy boppidy boo y’all started dating

What They Love About You

Oh he ADORES the fact that your a fellow introvert

Because he never has to put himself in awkward situations to please you

Omg he LOVES that your a night owl

Poor boy never has anyone to talk to at 3 am 😔

But now he has you!

Honestly he loves that your lazy

He’s not the most active person himself

And he already has Kuroo on his back for that

So he’s glad your not on his back about it too

He likes that your not really a emotional person

Only because he doesn’t know how to deal with human emotions 🥲

But if you’re ever upset PLEASE go to him

He will help you I promise

OMG

he loves how much you spoil him

Like shit he’s a little baby sometimes

Oh your height is PERFECT to him

Because he’s still taller

But only by an inch

He just likes how you two are practically the same height

Favorite Things To Do Together

UGH

Honestly just staying at home with you

ESPECIALLY on rainy days 😩

Y’all will usually just bake all day then have a total sugar crash and just nap on the couch together

All while it’s pouring rain outside

I’m talking thunder, lightning

The good shit

It’s always a vibe

Random Hc

Kenmas a little baker!

Granted he can only make simple things like cookie

But he can make that shit from scratch

It’s decorating that he’s not great at...

His cakes always end up looking like this

But they always taste great soooo

Most of your text messages happen between 1 am and 4 am

Kuroo takes full credit for your relationship 💀

Astrology

These two Signs are thought of as being karmically linked.

They’re both looking for security in a relationship and they share a love of art, poetry and culture.

This relationship may start slowly as, on the surface, they might have few common interests.

However, once they understand one another they may learn they have much more in common than was first apparent.

Taurus and Libra both have a love for the arts. They appreciate fine dining and theater, collecting art and music.

Pleasure — physical, aesthetic — is a premium for these two Signs.

They both love to woo and be wooed; courtship is a necessary part of any romantic relationship for them, and since they both have this need, they fit well together.

Taurus appreciates Libra’s charm; if stubborn Taurus doesn’t get their way, diplomatic Libra is able to smooth things over and keep the peace.

Libra appreciates the luxuries that sensual Taurus provides them.

They also have much to teach one another:

Libra can help Taurus see the different sides of a situation, and Taurus can help Libra overcome their notorious indecision.

Overall Aesthetic

After Hours 🌙

Chanel - Frank Ocean

My Future - Billie Eillish

Yeah Right - Joji

Can I Call You Tonight? - Dayglow

[barbieomoviegeek]

kpop in the west right now

okay, i’ve got a lot to say about that last post and didn’t want to put it all in the tags......kpop was already on the rise in the west before bts. there's a reason it's called the hallyu wave and that was established way before bts debuted. the main reason bts became randomly popular in the west like 2 years ago was because the american media...happened to notice they were popular on twitter and wrote about it. and the reason they were already popular on twitter is because they had a lot of fans within the international kpop community, which wouldn’t have been possible had the kpop industry not already been established and popular internationally long before bts debuted. bts are great, but they definitely didn’t start this. like if u really think bts started the hallyu wave im gonna assume u know nothing about kpop. bts may be representatives and in a way “paving the way” for this generation, but it couldn’t be possible without previous generations paving the way before them.

that’s why people like me (and i haven’t even been around that long) who’ve been around for years before that are finding it weird hearing them referred to like they’re up and coming and brand new. people who aren’t into kpop get surprised when i tell them bts was already one of the biggest groups in kpop when i got into them in 2015.

i majored in advertising and studied marketing strategies, and not to be a nerd, but the main reason i became interested to kpop in the first place was the marketing strategies in the industry (including all the pros and cons). i already talked about what made bts popular all of a sudden in america, but there’s a reason they’ve stayed popular and it’s not just “because they’re the best obv uwu”. it’s because they’re the ones being marketed currently. they’re the ones people who don’t know kpop have heard of, the ones people have seen on their tv, who’ve worked with the artists they know.

that’s why kpop companies are taking advantage of that right now. have you noticed that the groups that are becoming the most popular in the west rn are not necessarily the most popular groups in kpop? they’re often the biggest ones the company has atm, and they’re sending them out as reps for the company, to pull in western interest to the company. that’s why this whole idea that the ones who are popular in america are the best because they “broke the barrier” or whatever is complete bullshit. there’s plenty of groups that are incredibly popular in kpop that aren’t popular in the west, because the company hasn’t chosen to market them to a western audience like other companies are. it’s just marketing. as a whole, society consumes not what is necessarily the best, but what they are given. (side note, i’m not shitting on any of these groups; they’re all very talented, and i think it’s smart for the companies to be using this wave to their advantage.)

im also an american, and i really think a lot of this mindset boils down to america’s superiority complex, thinking that any korean artists who’ve hit american charts must be the best. monsta x is one of my favorite groups, and they are an example of a groups whose company has chosen to market them more in america. i saw an interview awhile ago from when that first began, and at the time they were more underrated, lesser known than they are now. the woman who interviewed them was like “oh there’s so many groups in korea, what makes u guys so much more popular than others” because she assumed that if they were promoting in america, they must be at the top of every korean chart to have “broken into” america. and the boys clearly didn’t know how to answer, because they were aware that they were not in fact so much more popular than other groups. which is fine! they didn’t do anything wrong, it’s the american superiority that drives that kind of mindset.

[kachulein]

it's after 2am which means overthinking Kachu jumps out [feel free to scroll past this]

Sometimes I just really...I don't know.

You shouldn't compare yourself to others and I know that but for some reason my mind does it anyway and I can't stop it from happening. Sometimes I wonder whether I just have an inferiority complex or what's seriously going on with me.

I tend to compare myself most often to people I label as "better than me" without a doubt. I can't really explain what makes me label someone as "better than me" but I just need to see someone say or write something sweet about my bias, for example, and then I'm already like "Wow, they would be so much more deserving of [insert bias] than I would ever be".

But it's not just talking about kpop and biases and stuff. It's generally speaking about how I view myself in relation to how I view others. I feel like I think extremely highly of everyone I know because I tend to only see the good in people (which makes me somewhat naïve at times but I'm aware).

For example when I feel like a blog is popular I'm already like "Wow they are so much better than me" and I look up to the. And it doesn't even have to be about popularity. No matter what it is, I will always find something about someone else I could use as a reason to put them above myself.

And it also happens when it comes to appearance, I always did that at school and I kept overthinking and overanalysing and generally just driving myself crazy. It's like I can see beauty in everyone but myself and even if I don't try or don't do anything I just feel like everyone else is superior to me.

Sometimes it leaves me so scared I feel like I'm just annoying to other people. It's worst in real life, I think, therefore I never really talked to people or was good at making friends because I was so scared to say something others would find stupid or ridiculous.

Online I find it easier to approach people, however I often feel overbearing, bothersome or like a burden. When I have a one-on-one conversation with someone it's okay but in group chats it always takes up so much courage to re-enter a conversation or pop up in the middle of an on-going one because I just feel unnecessary and unwanted (though that's just my own thoughts making me feel that way but I can't stop them). Most of the time I'm being a coward and don't even make an appearance then because I'm too scared to just randomly pop in and either have all attention on me or get ignored. And tbh, I don't know which option scares me more.

I don't even know why I'm writing this right now but I kinda felt like getting this off my chest because I'm not feeling very well right now and writing a text post doesn't feel like I'm targeting my problems at a certain someone and demand of them to answer me or listen to me. Like, you can just ignore it and it makes me feel less guilty when I give someone the option to either answer&listen to me or just ignore it.

Over the years I've just kept bottling up more and more struggles due to this growing feeling of being overbearing and selfish and when I talk to someone and open up about my problems I can't keep the conversation focused on me for too long because it makes me feel selfish and overbearing, exactly what I'm afraid of being and then I immediately feel so guilty for having opened up and therefore I had started sharing less and less about myself until a huge load of problems and hardships had gathered inside of me and now I've been feeling like drowning for so long... idk I just thought maybe getting something out would help this mountain of struggles shrink a bit and maybe some of you can relate and feel understood... though I hope not because I don't want any of you to feel like this :c

[hoshees]

so i'm going to preface this by saying that these are entirely my own opinions, i in no way think these opinions are superior, but they are based on how i've been feeling lately, no matter how accurate or misplaced those feelings may be.

i’m addressing some things i’ve noticed in the shinee fandom (not as a whole, but regularly) lately that have been bothering me.

 you have every right to disagree with me, and i will gladly talk through these disagreements if you'd like to, so long as your response is respectful and acknowledges that i'm permitted to have my own stance here, because i definitely believe you are permitted to have yours. please don't bother responding to this unless you actually read everything. i know it's very long, and i apologize if i don't word things clearly or make errors in communicating myself accurately. please give me some leeway in this, as these words are coming from a really raw place, and i don't entirely trust myself to speak with confidence. 

also please note that some of this may be triggering. i talk about jonghyun and some of the feelings i had after his death, so please be aware of that as you read. i've marked the section where i begin to discuss this with an asterisk (*). 

here we go. first, some background. i got in deep into kpop a couple of years ago after taemin's press it album was released, and found myself falling in love with not only taemin's music but also with  shinee's. i was really attracted to their talent, their varied discography, and their personalities. but what really sealed the deal for me were shawols. i joined tumblr originally under the url @/celes-tae, (i'd been on tumblr for years prior under another url, but never posted kpop content) and as a new blogger i didn't understand everything at first but i felt really comfortable right away. shawols seemed kind, mature, intelligent... so many things that i really craved in companionship with others, even if it was just online. i felt like i was a little late to the game (at the time i was 23 and was really only a casual listener of kpop before then), but i felt like that didn't matter to this fandom. people were so kind, and as i began to embrace a role as a content-creator i really felt like i was appreciated and accepted into this niche that i really loved. beyond that, i was able to form friendships that have proven to be really valuable to me and have really touched my heart. at the time, i really felt like shawols were generally more accepting than other fandoms i dabbled in. this is based mostly off of some of the people and words i came across on this website, and of course not as an accurate representation of any fandom as a whole, but i felt for a very long time that i would be one of those people who only stanned one group and that group would be shinee, because everything else seemed to complicated to grasp for a newcomer like me. as i got more into the music, though, i realized that there were so many other great things i was missing out on, and i steadily became more multifandom, first with getting more into monsta x than the casual fan i had been up until that point, and then with seventeen. i also started listening to bts more, because i really liked their music, but i distanced myself from the fandom simply because it felt really complex and it wasn't something i wanted to take the effort to navigate and find my place in at the time. this went on for a while, and i made friends with so many people and started making content for monsta x and seventeen in addition to shinee and just did what made me happy, and none of this ever had a negative impact on my friendships or more casual interactions on tumblr, at least none that were made evident to me. i went to shinee concerts and made more friends, gushed about new content  and new music with others, and it was all so lovely... even with the occasional controversies among shawols nothing ever really seemed to break us or cause major discord, and i was so proud of that.   on november 2, 2017, i accidentally deleted my blog (then @/taeminihyuk), and had to remake. i was devastated because of the content i lost, of course, but mostly because i knew it would be difficult if not impossible to reestablish all of the connections i'd made with people via that blog. this didn't end up being the case though. i was welcomed back by old friends and made TONS of new ones, many of whom i'm close with now. since remaking, i've felt so much positivity and love from others and seen so much of these same emotions exchanged on my dash, and i can't help but smile. of course this is just a website, and is in no way a replacement for flesh and blood human relationships, but that doesn't mean it can't have a vastly positive impact on people's lives, because it really has on mine. through this blog i've been exposed to music and art that has directly inspired me in my own life, and brought me out of some pretty dark places. i think that's what this should be about more than anything. not notes or fame or awards or streams, but the real evidenced impact that being a fan of a musician, or any art, can bring. please keep this in mind as you read on. * when jonghyun passed away, i felt a sadness that i've never felt before. i won't say it's the worst pain i've ever felt, but it was different, more suffocating and unexpected, than any pain i'd experienced up until then. in no way am i insinuating that you are wrong in your reactions to his death if you feel differently from how i did. i know that for many people there was no worse pain than the reality of losing him, and these feelings are valid, and you are entitled to feel and react to that sadness however you want. for me though, the heartbreak came not only from the sudden loss, but also in viewing everything that shattered afterward. in the people i knew and some who didn't, who were broken. at first, as with any devastation, people came together in support of one another. i received messages from bloggers i'd never interacted with before, who wanted to just check on me and let me know they were there if i needed them. i did my best to reciprocate that sentiment and tried to be a source of comfort for people. in many ways this was harmful though, because i didn't spend enough time actually grieving, and in many ways i'm still feeling some of the repercussions of that. regardless, the love and care that i saw from other people in those weeks following his death are things i'll look back on with gratefulness probably forever. 

as time wore on though, that sense of camaraderie faded. it's natural for that to happen, but it left room for lots of negative voices to ring louder than others. people started policing others for their expressions of grief or lack thereof. people who identified as shawols were telling others that they weren't entitled to grieve if they hadn't been fans of him before his death. people used jonghyun's name to push agendas that were problematic at best and downright harmful at worst. the ways people talked to each other changed. there was no more delicacy, at least not in the louder voices. when i noticed a lot of these things, i felt myself pulling away even more. because i was immersed in other groups, i spoke less about shinee. i still blogged quietly, but i didn't feel like i could really participate in the fandom anymore, because i wanted to compartmentalize and go back to the reasons why i got into kpop in the first place, which at the time seemed separate from shinee. i wanted to feel warm again, and all of the fighting and discourse was stripping that away, in my view. i didn't identify with single-fandom shawols that viewed them as their everything because i hadn't been around for years and years, as i said, i only got into all of this in early 2016, so it wasn't as embedded in my life and my understanding of my relationships and choices as it was for others. i also didn't identify with people who weren't shawols, the "i'm not a shawol, but..." mentality, because i still very much felt that i was a shawol at heart. i kept drifting back and forth between feeling like i had a place and was content in my understanding of what shinee was to me and then just being really confused, and sometimes i felt alone and hurt. when onew, key, minho, and taemin went ahead with the tokyo dome concerts, i had mixed feelings. i wanted them to take time to rest and grieve, i wanted them to be happy above everything, but i knew there was nothing i could do to help them in that regard, and a really selfish part of me wanted them to keep making music because i thought "i can't lose this too." i live-streamed the audio for the first night, and it was terrible, but also really good for me, because i finally felt like a shawol again. i finally felt like i was part of that community, and i could really grieve. this next paragraph is a bit of an aside, but the concerns i express here directly play into my discussion of shinee later, so please read it too: after monsta x tickets went on sale a few months ago, i saw a lot of worrying stuff that really bothered me. ticketing was a nightmare, and a lot of monbebes who really loved monsta x weren't able to get the tickets they wanted or couldn't get tickets at all. some people lashed out at those who had gotten tickets, saying things like "i only stan monsta x" or "they're everything to me" or "i've been here since debut" and then insinuating or even downright stating that the people who didn't meet those criteria or were multifandom didn't deserve tickets. this was a really ugly side of the monsta x fandom that i'd never really seen before, and it made me feel ostracized, because i considered myself multifandom and had gotten a good ticket to the concert. this blew over, as most things do, but i think that this mentality has really tarnished the fandom, and i still see hints of it every now and then, and i wish that it wasn't there. as rumors of a shinee comeback spread, i felt mixed feelings again. i saw more hate than i'd ever seen on my dash, between fandoms and between shawols. misunderstandings that grew out of proportion, people who felt like they couldn't voice anything without being attacked, whether that be happiness that shinee was continuing or sadness that they were going to release music for the first time without jonghyun. i want to take this time to say that no matter what your feelings are regarding shinee's comeback, they are valid because they are yours. personally, i'm excited, but again i am also absolutely devastated. all of my happiness is two fold with sadness, and i say that as someone who has only been a fan through 2 comebacks, so i can't imagine what its like for others, and i won't try to speak for you. for me, this comeback has been a weird mix of excitement and disappointment. i'm excited because it seems like onew, key, minho, and taemin are releasing music because they want to do it. i'm disappointed because it feels like jonghyun is being left behind. i don't know if there's any way to not feel like this. some of this has to do with sm removing his memorial. some of this has to do with the ambiguity surrounding the album and whether or not he had an influence on or part in it.... ....some of this disappointment has to do with some of the behavior i'm seeing from shawols. tumblr has a kind of discourse surrounding it where sarcasm runs amok and softness is often taboo. but i am going to take the time to make a few things clear, as far as my opinions are concerned. i think it is TOTALLY okay to only stan shinee. that is your choice. you are in control of your likes and dislikes, your loves and hates. however, it is NOT okay to belittle other people for calling themselves shawols while also stanning other groups. i haven't seen much of this in a blunt sense on my dash, but i have seen hints at exclusionism (that's not a word, but roll with it), that i find really terrible, because it's ostracizing and belittling to people who really love shinee and want to support them. i think it is TOTALLY okay to say that you don't like _____'s music or even that you hate it, but to insinuate that a person who likes that group/it's music is unintelligent because they like it is NOT okay. people are allowed to like what they like, and you need to be respectful of that. i think it is TOTALLY okay to point out the realities of why you don't like a group, like their music, or don't like their negative fans, but i don't think it's okay to ball up everyone in the same group and say "____ fandom needs to shut up" or "you aren't a shawol so you aren't valid." this is really harmful for a lot of reasons. some i can't really express in words right now, but please know that these are toxic viewpoints in my opinion, and i want you to think about your words and their consequences before you say something like this. i would like to note that a lot of these problems i'm addressing come after loads of bullshit from anons and other people who have insulted shawols, belittled them, and driven them to anger. i understand why it's frustrating, and i know i've said problematic things when i was feeling attacked, too. i have to ask though, why are we fighting fire with fire? you may feel like you've been stripped of your ownership to this one thing you find comfort in, but i ask you, please don't push people away so you can cling to it harder. there's enough room for everyone. this isn't finite. i can't speak for jonghyun, but i can speak to the feelings i had after he died, the things i saw on this website that were so overwhelmingly comforting during a time when it felt like nothing mattered. that the only thing to do was find a way out. i really want shawols to think about how they are interacting, not only with other fandoms, but with each other. don't do the same things you criticize other people for. the similar, although different breed of elitism i saw after monsta x tickets were released and people said "you're not a real monbebe if...." has now been mirrored on my dash to statement like "you're not a real shawol if...." and i'm disappointed and sad to see it. again, i want to reiterate that it's definitely permissible to stan one group. to identify only as a shawol and nothing else. just please do that with words of love and respect. i want to say a lot more, and i feel like what i've said didn't come out the way i wanted it to, but i'm going to wrap this up now, and hope that i don't come across too terribly. i just want people to be kind to each other, and to be inclusive. maybe that's naive of me, but i really wish for it, and i'm not ashamed of that. think about the reasons you came here in the first place. they're positive, right? remember that there are a lot of people here who are new to this, and they need to see that there's good here. please be kind always. - logan

[llawlietofficial]

my stream of consciousness during death note (2017)

So I finally watched this shit show last night, and kept a running document of every thought I had in order. Here are some of the top ones: (under the cut because....it gets a little long. it’s worth it though!) 

okay so first of all what the fuck is this opening song. 

LOSER LIGHT GETS PAID TO DO PEOPLES HOMEWOEK. 

Wow I wish I was as cool as goth head cheerleader Misa Mia

Ooh look at that chemistry

Light looks like a failed wannabe white guy kpop star

Someone gif those opening "death note" letters please

What's with the fucking illuminati symbols on the book ??

Rain makes everything more symbolic I can't believe the creativity of their choices

Aw he's seeing a girl get bullied OF COURSE that's motivation enough to kill

I can't believe Light is a feminist icon stepping in to save Misa Mia like that.

Oh god his whole speech about “technically you bullying me is child abuse” needs to be a copypasta. Someone needs to slap that kid.

SOMEONE JUST SLAPPED THAT KID.

Why does his voice sound like that

Why does his face look like that

Why does he have frosted tips

I can't believe Light is the loser loner pining after the head cheerleader with a girlfriend.

Light is ?? A troublemaker ???

Why is the death note so crusty looking

Marbles.

LIGHT'S SCREAMS MAKE ME SCREAM I want that as my ringtone

"Shall we begin." Wow I love Star Trek Into Darkness.

"Some 8 foot tall demon looking motherfucker" is honestly the best possible description of Ryuk so at least they got that one right.

RIP Light's first victim, Kenny Doyle. You will be missed. 

This Bitch chooses one of the most violent possible deaths for his first victim ???? But canon light didn't like. Start out wanting to cause his victims physical pain. He's not a sadist he's a moral janitor. 

CANON LIGHT WOULD HAVE THOUGHT CHEATING WAS A BIG DEAL !! HE WOULD HAVE KILLED PEOPLE LIKE HIMSELF !!

Oh my god he's so angsty just get a fucking diary.....wait...

Wow I love blatant exposition dropping. I wonder how many times him and his dad have had that exact same conversation over dinner conveniently explained Light's tragic backstory. 

Because this is America. You can't kill people without a tragic backstory (if you're white)

Is he going to scream like that every time Ryuk shows up?

"Your fingers are huge." Hmm? Why do you care about that, Light? Unless you have something you want to share with the class? 

I can't believe they changed Ryuk's motivation that's like everything about him as a character. He didn’t say he was bored like, a single time in this whole series what’s the point. 

He has a whole file on his tragic backstory that he keeps laying around in his room this is next level bullshit.

JESUS FUCKINF CHRIST LIGHT WHAT HAPPENED TO SIMPLE HEART ATTACKS

He. Impaled himself. On a steak knife.

Light's mom was a hippie !!!!!

I can't believe Light's motivation is "karma's a bitch" what an icon. 

I can't believe Misa Mia’s turned on by murder.

Actually. I can believe that.

Light's just. Carrying around the death note right in the open.

"I can't tell you” *brief pause* “so you really want to know?" BITCH YOU EIDN'T EVEN LET HER ANSWER. SHE SEEMED SO UNINTERESTED ANYWAY. WHY DO YOU HAVE THIS COMPULSIVE NEED TO CONFESS THAT YOU’RE A MURDERER! 

LIght wants pussy that bad.

"Your poetry sucks" okay I actually kind of like that line, Misa Mia’s a snarky bitch like she deserves to be. 

She looks bored. Light she doesn't want part of your murder fest !! you don't have to confess so often !! 

as soon as the police swat car hit that guy my friend turned to me and said "when you're a police officer but still text and drive"

Ooh blurry lights that's an edgy cinnamon topography choice.

I don’t like how everyone in this movie is all mumbling.

How many people are going to make mood boards out of the scene where Light and Misa Mia are leaning against that neon sign???

"Do you think I'm crazy?" "If anything I think you're not crazy enough" wow I love the joker and harley quinn!! normal is just a setting on the dryer~~~ rawr

TEHY'RE POST MURDER FUCKING

I said out loud "I can't believe they're going to post murder fuck" and my friend said "But you'd think that was kinky in high school" and i said "hell I think that's kinky now" why am i like this

I can't believe this whole murder fuck montage. They're so cute and in love. My friend just said “relationship goals” and i want to turn off this movie.

Is that Beastly in their school library????

"What they want is a god." 

Okay actually I can see Light getting off on talking about he's a god while fucking. I've read enough fanfiction to prepare me for that scene.

Why does he look like that??

I just love that "Kira saves" graffiti

Why did Kira kill 11 people in a nightclub what did they do ? so serial cheating for money is okay but getting drunk and having sex isn’t?? alright Light. 

L looks like a serial killer with the mask and the hoodie and the dead bodies and I’m.......not loving the look

WATARI ISN'T EVEN JAPANESE. THAT'S NOT EVEN HIS NAME. WHY IS THE ONLY JAPANESE ACTOR THE ONLY CHARACTER CANONICALLY NOT JAPANESE. 

I appreciate his continued sweets addiction though. He is. The only good thing in this movie.

Is he singing wizard of oz what the fu k is happening in this movie

Why do they all talk so quiet

the most inaccurate thing that’s happened so far is actually L taking a nap

Could Light act....a little LESS blatantly on Kira's side????

Detective James Turner.

Honestly this movie is just......boring.

I feel like the voices are at a much lower volume than the music and it’s just...bad

How does he know Kira's in Seattle ??? Is this explained or did I just miss it ???

"What would you do if some guy fucked me?" "I’d kill him." Wow I love this scene in Baby Driver.

I want that furniture. 

Oh I get it. His voice is muffled because of that fucking face mask. 

"Rest your glutes" 

All the things they could have kept and they kept L and Watari giving Light's dad ice cream?

Okay we see Light and Misa at school all the time, but are they ever ??? In class ??

OF COURSE L IMMEDIATELY GOES ON NATIONAL TV

L in a big black hoodie with the big American flag waving in the background is exactly what I expected out of this adaptation.

Light telling Ryuk to shut the fuck up is something I imagined hundreds of times in the anime but never thought I would be lucky enough to see on screen. 

"Besides I think you can tell when you're sitting across from a killer like Kira." HAHAHAHAHA WOW I LOVE THIS DRAMATIC IRONY !!

Light is smart. We know this because we keep saying how smart he is. It doesn’t matter that he’s not making any smart decisions. We said he’s smart so he is. 

I can't believe it's dark outside and they're both wearing sunglasses. You know who wears sunglasses indoors? Douche bags. And blind people.

Ooh Misa Mia doesn't want to pop popcorn and murder a few people there's gotta be trouble in Hollywood romance paradise

I hate the music choices in this movie. a lot. 

"There are no sides. Only the game.” what. 

I can believe Misa Mia’s casually watching torture porn on tv

WHY IS LIGHT'S DAD BASICALLY COMMITTING SUICIDE BY ANNOUNCINF HIS NAME AND HAVINF A PRESS CONFERENCE AND WHY DOES HIS VOICE SOUND LIKE THAT. there's a difference between not being afraid and being a fucking idiot !!! 

I can't believe Light just admitted to not being the good guys anymore.

I CAN'T BELIEVE MISA MIA IS LIGHT ???

Light needs to put his dick away. He really needs to put his dick away.

The cafe scene is really aesthetically pleasing and I hate it. 

"I don't do check, Light, only checkmate" FUUUUCK. 

IS THIS HOe FUXKING ADMITTING ?? THIS DUMB HOE IS ADMITTING TO BEING A SERIAL MURDERER AND ASKING L TO JOIN HIM THIS IS. A SHITTY FANFICTION. WHY IS HE SO DUMB. WHY DOES HE CONFESS TO WVERYONE HE TALKS TO.

Is Light going to get back with her just because she said I love you  ?? LIGHT SHE TRIED TO KILL UR DAD respect yourself !! 

Watari isn't his real name ????  Also what's the point leaving him alive? Free ice cream? Jesus light.

Why do they say Kira with the accent if it's not Japanese ?

L is.....coming slightly unhinged.....he seems.... to have a lot more anger issues that he needs to work through.

LIGHT IN A TOP HAT. I can't believe they're going to this dance. 

I just said "At a certain point it's not even entertaining anymore. It's just pathetic." and my friend, who is now drunk, said "I'm still pretty entertained but maybe it's because I'm drunk."

I can't believe L grew up in that creepy ass murder shack. 

Actually. I can believe L grew up in that creepy ass murder shack. Also I saw the illuminati symbol like five times in that house so what's the truth????

HE DOES HAVE A NORMAL PEOPLE SCARE ME STICKER IN HIS LOCKER I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN EDIT.

Lmao I can't believe Misa Mia was the real mastermind the whole time. "You don't get to feel morally superior for being a pussy." OH SHIT. Oh my fuckin god he fuckin dead.

also L needs to calm the fuck down. Do they not teach you how to drive in the orphanage?

I don't know just what happened with that store owner attacking the armed black man assaulting the teenager in an alley way but it felt racist.

Light is desperate and pathetic. Has he made....a single smart decision?

"JESUS TAKE THE FERRIS WHEEL!!! TAKE IT FROM MY HAND !!!"

Chicago's I Don't Wanna Live Without Your Love? Are you fucking kidding me?

At least Misa Mia died how she lived. Aesthetically pleasing. 

What the fuck is even happening in this movie. HE CONFESSED TO HIS DAD TOO. 

"I thought I was going to kill all the bad guys and re good guys would win but it wasn't like that" OH LOOK !! CONVENIENTLY A MORAL !!

and in the end, the white loner character who develops a god complex and goes on a murderous rampage killing hundreds of people and declaring himself god.....gets away with it......but at least he learned a valuable lesson about the nature of good and evil !!!! 

anyway those are my thoughts I hope you liked them !!

[chenpire]

Edit: This post originally contained the url of the account who commented on my post but I have made the decison to remove it. This is for the following reasons:

A significant amount of time has elapsed without a response

I do not think it’s fair to ask someone who may well be personally affected by an issue to engage if they don’t want to. I feel this even more stongly currently than I did at the time of posting

my discourse tag tends to evolve as part of an ongoing discussion, and I think it’s valuable to have a record of that as it makes me more self aware about my own growth and that, in turn, gives me a better understanding of other people’s

Hi! So, I saw your reply on one of my gifsets, because you know, I read those sometimes, and I'm apprehensive about engaging with this but as somebody close to me, who sadly I recently lost, said many a time; discussion is always worth it. You probably weren't expecting me to take this so seriously, but for better or worse I am going to take it very seriously.

You're referring to the fact that jongdae made a racially insensitive comment during blooming day promotions on vlive. This is something I have spoken about on my blog, however it's something I'm more likely to speak about on twitter/instagram and the official fanboard as these are places where there’s a direct line of contact, so to speak, and where me expressing concern would be more likely to make a difference (though truthfully, from past experiences, this rarely seems to be enough to prompt a response). Another potential course of action would be to write a letter directly to his management outlining an initiative to educate their artists on racial inequality from a global perspective, placing emphasis on the fact that, at the very least, this would be wise from a business pov. I'm not naive enough to believe anyone could appeal to sm's moral sensibilities even if as his fan, it is my personal belief that jongdae would care.

In the past jongdae has usually aligned himself against racial discrimination. He tended to be more outspoken when there were instances of deflective colourism within the group and he has publicly supported campaigns against racism. However, this is a pretty simple understanding of racism, in the sense that it's the idea that treating someone differently because of the colour of their skin is wrong, and those of us who, for example, grew up in multicultural western societies are more aware that racism is in fact a lot of complex than that. It's difficult for me to wrap my head around not being aware of the implications of certain comments, so I do find myself wondering 'did you not think about how that sounded'. However, while I feel that way, I know from arguments with friends and relatives on the continent, and from my own dealings trying to engage with some Korean and Chinese fans about the issue, that seemingly some people genuinely don't. I've been in this fan space a long time, and I have encountered some pretty shocking examples of racism, the most shocking part being the person in question doesn't seem to think they're being racist, because that's not their understanding of what racism is. 

I can understand that engaging with this to try and change their mind if it affects you personally would be taxing. I struggle engaging with people who are being blatantly sexist or homophobic, because I feel unsafe and angry, and I don’t see the need to justify those feelings even if the person in question ‘didn’t mean it’. I think it's more than fair that people might not really want to engage with jongdae anymore because they're uncomfortable with what he said, and I sympathise because this isn’t the first time I’ve had an ethnical disagreemnt with exo while being their fan. In my personal case, I don't think dropping out of fandom space is the best decision. If I thought it was, I wouldn't engage with kpop at large at all since these kinds of comments are a systemic problem that no idol group I know of is untouched by. I want to be vocal about things I disagree with, because in my own life I’m lucky enough to have people who will tell me when they think I've said something inappropriate. These people help me grow as a person, and I want to be that kind of fan to jongdae, and to exo.

I also want to be very careful I don't engage in 'point wars' about which idol is less problematic than others. I have no intention of trying make myself seem morally superior by specifically only associating with public figures or franchises which are 'pure' and 'untainted' by social discourse. I think it detracts from the real issue, because it becomes about the individual not wanting to be accused of something, rather than practically thinking about their own behavior and how they respond to other peoples behavior. My concern is for the way racism affects people close to me, people I admire, fellow women, my fellow exo-l, and people in my own society. So, if someone I care about says a racist thing, I want to be there to challenge them on that. While I can’t claim to be a perfect paragon of virtue myself, I have learned to be better in the past, and almost certainly will continue to in the future. I can help people I come into contact with learn too, but I personally have to be present in the conversation to do that. 

Jongdae’s an adult, I’m sure he can handle himself, so in this instance I have not helped to purge negative articles from naver or any portal site speaking on the issue, even in the case that I feel these articles have been written to ‘score points’ and not to deal with the problem genuinely. I will not be deleting your comment either; I think it has a right to be there. Since it would seem you're 7 years my senior, and they do say older and wiser, if you have any opinions on how I might better engage with the issue, I'm always open to suggestions. And for future reference, if it’s important to know my stance on these sorts of things, you can always check the relevant discourse tags on my blog.