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hypnoness · 2 months ago
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old but never stopped being gold, i love doodling eyes <3
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qu1etdays · 5 months ago
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@otto-save consent violator. Be careful, hypnokinksters.
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"being dumb and mindless doesn't suddenly shift my limits."
If I'm working with anybody you all see on my page, assume that I've warned them already about individuals like this.
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curiosa-hypnotica · 22 days ago
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On the eve of November...
I really don't know if I'll be able to complete the Hypnovember challenge this year: to post some new hypno content every day starting tomorrow. Last year I didn't even try, and this one I may not have the time or the spoons for it.
But what the hell! Let's see what happens.
Watch this space and you'll probably find some interesting things to read and/or drop to.
I'll be using the prompt list made by my friend @officialmoosezilla, and you can use it as well:
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Happy Halloween! And happy Hypnovember. And take care of yourself and those around you. 🌀
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xxdolleve · 11 days ago
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sitting all alone in my room desperately rubbing between my thighs while scrolling through tumblr. Kinda lonely tbh :( ((threats are welcome, pretty please!))
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hypnoness · 3 months ago
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What are your favorite suggestions as a sub and as a tist? :)
sorry for the wait, it's just something you have to really think about + i've been busy as hell lately (again, sorry for not posting)
as a tist i really like feeling in total control and sometimes mix hypnosis with cnc.
suggestions that come out in the moment (not really think about it before, just come up with it and if i like some of them i'll remember for next time) are usually to make the sub fall asleep or enter a cataliptic state
as a sub i really like obedience play and hypnosis with praising but some type of sarcastic very subtle clever degradation, the way if youre too entranced and only focused on that, that sarcasm might slip and you wont even notice
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qu1etdays · 4 months ago
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Enter Mister-Sandman90, Yet another person who clearly lost their patience, and threw consent out of the window.
For what it's worth, stay safe out there hypno community. This is how messages start and how they could end.
Stop trying to hypnotize people without their consent. This shit is dangerous.
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curiosa-hypnotica · 8 months ago
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You are a hypnosub and you are owned. You have been thoroughly brainwashed, so there is no doubt in your mind, no way of resisting or escaping. And why would you even want to escape? You belong to your Owner. That is your reality. That is your purpose in life.
Now think about that certainty. Picture it. Describe it. How do you know all that? How did you learn it, and when? Do you remember a time when you did not know it? How does it feel that control inside you, always present? How is life with the will of another overriding your own?
You may be unable to go very far. You may get tired or simply shut down, dropping into a mindless trance. The weak parts of your mind are totally dominated, and the strong ones —if there are any— are serving your Owner, tasked with keeping your whole self bound and controlled. That is how it should be. That is your reality.
But if you manage to reflect about your brainwashing, even a little, you could express what you find or what keeps getting away from you, elusive, mysterious. You could talk about it, even if it's only to marvel at the power of hypnosis and the happiness of being owned.
If you are able, try to say it, as a reply or a reblog, so other hypnosubs can read it, and be amazed and joyful. 🌀
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xxdolleve · 10 days ago
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what is your deepest darkest sexual fantasy?
probably getting hypnotized against my will and edged/overstimmed for long periods of time, that’s just me though !!
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qu1etdays · 2 months ago
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This is the stupidity that ruins the community.
Thirsty ass hypno rapists.
I know I have my fair share of people that don’t fuck with me for whatever the reason. Could be genuine dislike, jealousy, or all of the above. But consent matters no matter what.
It’s honestly comical at this point. Some of y’all, like these two dumb asses, really think that hypnosis works like this. And that’s because for a few, it does. There are some very susceptible subjects out here who run into the wrong tist who fails to educate them about the dangers of hypnosis and how serious you should take the responsibility of performing hypnosis.
…And then there’s the people I work with.
They see you.
They get this all the time.
I tag them in my post so they can see when they go up. I used to tag them so they could hopefully meet some cool people in the community and branch out. I don’t have any horror stories yet so far, but I do have screenshots of this dumb ass activity over the years.
I do train them to watch themselves.
I let them know the accounts that do this.
I let them know what to watch out for because I know all people like this are gonna do is delete and make new accounts when shit gets too hot for them.
Pass this around. Have em do it again. Lol.
Thank you for reading.
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curiosa-hypnotica · 4 months ago
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I'm very happy to see some hypnotic inductions I've written being reblogged and used. (Good subjects, all!) 💖
Because of that, I invite you help me decide what to include in the next one. Tell me what you think! And thank you! 🌀
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pruning-the-minds-garden · 4 months ago
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Disambiguating the two Tradwives
There has been a bit of... "news"... in progressive political spheres the past few months about the tradwife lifestyle. Specifically, about conservative women who dove into - or at least professed to dive into - that lifestyle/aesthetic, and it later turned out that their partners were simply using that as a way to abuse them. Lets talk about that.
This is about how "tradwife" as a sociopolitical/religious ideology relates to "tradwife" as a power exchange/kink phenomenon. Also, this bears on the conversation about guilt by association, as well as conversations about the powers and limits of labels, consent, and community (esp. as it relates to kink). I'm not "coming for" tradwives with this, nor accusing them or trying to disparage that lifestyle in any way as such, and I hope that comes through properly. What I'd like to do with this is elevate the discussion around them a bit, help absolve them of unearned guilt where that guilt isn't earned, and use that as a springboard for talking about larger issues. Yes, that italicized text is important and we'll come back to it later.
So, lets have that conversation now.
To start with, here are a few news pieces about the tradwife phenomenon in mainstream media sources:
* https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/15/opinion/tradwife-tiktok.html (from 05/15/2024) *https://unherd.com/2024/05/lauren-southern-the-tradlife-influencer-filled-with-regret/ (from 05/06/2024) * https://www.newyorker.com/culture/persons-of-interest/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-trad-wife (from 03/29/2024) * https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-22/tradwife-movement-personal-pleasures-or-extreme-right-ideologies/100356514 (from 08/22/2021) * https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2023/07/14/trad-wife-meaning-controversy/70407456007/ (from 07/14/2023) You can read all that if you want, but its purposes are really to do three things. First, to show you that people have been talking about this well outside of kink/BDSM circles for a while. Second, there have been some recent developments ("rise and fall," "filled with regret" I think demonstrate that aptly). Third, there is some complexity to the label, as exemplified by headlines like "personal pleasure or extreme right ideologies?" or "trad wife meaning controversy." Hence this post, to disambiguate the "tradwife" label, describe what it means, and hopefully get people to put their focus where it is necessary to do so, rather than heaping guilt on undeserving bystanders.
Lets jump to the second part first, and describe what tradwife means. There are, in my opinion, two halves to this. I'll start with the one that anyone reading this is most likely to know.
Tradwife (kink): an aesthetic kink or power exchange relationship revolving around a caricatured view of postwar gender relations, thereby creating a dynamic where submissives &/or wives consensually submit to Dominants &/or husbands while projecting a hyperfeminine affect. The aesthetics of the husband and their emulation of a "trad'sband" are largely unimportant to this as an aesthetic kink. The precise gender of the "wife" in the kink scenario is also often unimportant, with "wife" being a verbal stand-in in this context for "submissive partner" where that partner could be nonbinary or even a man. This latter scenario - or other combinations - is also occasionally combined with kinks like a humiliation fetish, cuckoldry, orgasm control/denial, forced feminization, and others as appropriate to the dynamic in question and individual tastes.
Tradwife (ideology): A far-right, conservative ideology that caricatures and then emulates postwar gender relations, as a vehicle for suggesting that all of society should return to that mythologized time. It posits that such a lifestyle - characterized by hyper-feminine submissive wives in exclusively cis-heteronormative, monogamous (exception: the husbands in such situations are often allowed if not expected to commit adultery), conspicuously Christian relationships with hyper-masculine husbands, using a 1950s era (that is to say, "Mad Men"-esque) vision of such - is the ideal position for all people everywhere, It further posits that any other relationship style or design is inherently inferior, and the cause of numerous societal ills.
In reading through those two definitions, I am sure you can see the overlap. What might be less obvious to some - especially the writers of the above news pieces, who are not familiar with kink culture - are the differences.
The first, BIG difference is consent. Tradwife-as-a-kink requires ongoing consent from all involved parties to be practiced/lived properly. Everyone involved has to want it, or at the very least not be opposed to it, in order for it to work. Tradwife-as-an-ideology does not require this consent, and in fact projects the lifestyle as an ideal upon uninvolved third parties as 'The Way They Should (want to) Live' (tm), thereby discarding entirely the consensual involvement of those third parties in the process. You cannot, EVER, say that a particular lifestyle is "the way people should be" without in the process necessarily ignoring or abrogating their consensual involvement in adopting that lifestyle. Tradwife-as-an-ideology does precisely that, and so it is by definition not an ethical kink practice. Tradwife-as-a-kink does not require that one adopt tradwife-as-an-ideology, however, so it is entirely possible for a person to want to live that lifestyle themselves without wanting to foist it on others and so be performing that aesthetic kink without falling foul of any ethical lines whatsoever. That being said, the overlap exists because some who live that as a kink then come (or have always) to adopt that ideology, or then foist it upon their partners (most commonly in the form of the husbands doing so to their wives, but it's possible to run the other direction as well).
The second difference is not so much one of ethics, as it is of aesthetics. Tradwife-as-an-ideology seems to discourage anything that could be seen as deviant outside of tradwifery itself, and instead encourage an aggressively normative and binarist relationship style, dynamic, and presentation by both participants. That is to say, the men involved are supposed to be Stereotypical Men (tm), the women involved Stereotypical Women (tm), they are supposed to have Stereotypical Sex in a Stereotypical House, a Stereotypical Relationship and the whole thing is designed to live in the Uncanny Valley in Stepford County of Anytown, The South/Midwest, USA c. 1950 (but the 1950s shown in sitcoms not, like, the actual 1950s) where everyone co-exists peacefully and no conflicts arise, ever, because Everyone Knows Their Place. And, crucially, that's as deep as it goes aesthetically. There is no point to that aesthetic other than to ape what is, in their view, an idealized way for all people everywhere to be (one that is conspicuously free of any non-White, non-Christian, non-cishet, or otherwise politically "disagreeable" people whatsoever, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence).
Tradwife-as-a-kink is very different, in that sense, and often (but does not necessarily) involves the inclusion of other kinks into that dynamic such as those named above. Also, it can be (and often is) practiced by non-cishet, non-White people who take that aesthetic and use it to say or do something, as a vehicle to criticize the ideal through caricature even as they live out that caricatured version of it. They add in cuckoldry because of the the implicit assumption that the hyper-sexualized, hyper-masculine Men in that scenario would have to cheat in order to find sexual satisfaction at all, and they want to explore their feelings around that as well as get some kinky satisfaction/jollies from it. They add in forced feminization because they like the idea of being made to be a Stereotypical Woman due to the way society already punishes them for - in all likelihood - not living up to existing gendered expectations they never consented to be held to. But, I also don't want to psychoanalyze this too deeply: they might just add in other kinks because they find them hot, or because they want to. That's okay too, because tradwife-as-a-kink is inherently deviant, and so further deviant lifestyle choices are really no big deal (nor should they be a big deal, when done in a considerate and consensual manner).
So, is it possible to be both? Yes. Obviously.
Is it necessary to be both? No. Equally obviously.
Finally, is tradwife-as-an-ideology a problem while tradwife-as-a-kink is not? I think, by now, you know my answer to that question. I wouldn't have even asked it if I thought my answer was in doubt.
Much like "Your Natural State" I think we as a community need to understand both the kink side of this practice, and its ideological implications. That's not to say we should condemn the kink practice when/where it is conducted properly and with the consent of all parties, but I think we need to understand it in order to put blame and guilt where it is right that it go and not outside of that place.
The people who practice the ideology and not the kink are obviously an issue, and they deserve to be called out for the toxicity they bring to the community. The people who practice the ideology and the kink... well, I think they need to at least be made aware of what they are doing, and given the opportunity to thoughtfully reject the former while they live the latter. We should not paint them with too broad a brush, because honestly we in the hypnokink community know all about the consequences of broad brushes and guilt by association. Credit card companies restrict the use of the word "hypnosis" by adult actors and adult mixed media artists with that same guilt-by-association zeal, assuming that anyone who uses hypnosis for kinky purposes is doing it to evade or elude the consent of their partner. That is not the case, but they do it anyway, and we should not seek to emulate their behavior.
Like I said at the top, labels have power. By adopting and then appropriating that label, right-wing groups and personalities have enabled themselves to abuse their partners, to hide behind the innocent members of their community and use them as a shield, and to evade due criticism for a while. It's time that stop. It won't stop by treating all persons who live that lifestyle as guilty, but rather by focusing guilt where that focus is due - on the people who practice it non-consensually, as an ideology rather than a kink, and to draw a line between the two wherever possible. Some people will straddle that line, and those people should be made to ask themselves the hard question: "which is more important to you?" because the answer to that question will be revelatory, and instructive of what our next steps forward should be in approaching them.
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nocturnowlette · 21 days ago
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a guide to partial asexuality
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oh, and then make this 3D on the axis of romantic feelings and add fifteen more fuck
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pervyprincessbaby · 1 month ago
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omggg!
lookisies i’m so blessed and just hit 1000+ followers!!
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thank u sooo much my lil sweethearts <33
i think i need to do a pinned bio soon hehe, then you can all get to know me better!!
~in the meantime i’m working on replying to messages and here’s a lil tease from mee
kith kith!!! xoxo
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misscammiedawn · 9 months ago
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Hypnosis and Dissociative Disorders
I've been meaning to write this since Charmed.
I shall not point fingers or name names but during Charmed 2024 there was a 101 class that taught that it was unsafe to play with those who dissociate as part of a mental illness. The graphic, which I'll paste below, used the word "Can't".
I wanted to speak to that.
Hypnosis has several different definitions. One could go to a hypnosis event and ask every presenter "define hypnosis in a single sentence" and get a different answer every class, likely a few may even contradict.
One such definition I could use is "Hypnosis is an altered state where a hypnotee is lead to a suggestible state where the hypnotee is dissociated from their conscious thinking." though one could say it is "an altered state that leads to breakdown in critical thinking and a heightened state of suggestibility" or you could start talking about the unconscious or subconscious mind.
Fact is, there's a lot of theory work at play and the language we use to shape the concepts isn't as important as understanding the concepts.
Dissociation is a natural part of hypnosis. It's also a natural part of existing. In much pre-talk patter we as hypnotists tend to ask an introduction level hypnotee to think about their experiences with time dilation, with highway hypnosis, with spacing out, with walking into a room and forgetting why you came in there.
Things so normal that as part of rapport, a hypnotist tends to assume the hypnotee can latch on to one of the concepts.
Dissociation is a spectrum. Literally. Within psychology the DES-II tool grades dissociation experiences on a scale, hence the acronym.
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When people, including myself at times, describe dissociative disorders they tend to be referring to disorders that focus on dissociation as their main symptom. Depersonalization, Derealization and of course Dissociative Identity Disorder. Over the course of my life I have been diagnosed with all three.
But the scale includes Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, both complex and standard. Complex simply refers to a level of trauma that has been ongoing long enough that it is not a single memory or incident that triggers the symptoms.
According to the American Psychiatric Association one in eleven people will be diagnosed with PTSD at some point in their life with 3.5m diagnosed per year in the USA.
Which is to say that dissociating as part of an illness includes 8% of the population. Does that mean 8% of all potential hypnotees are too dangerous to play with?
...the answer is not a clear cut, "no". There is some elevated danger. But rather than teaching people not to play with those who live with these experiences, perhaps we can teach why there should be heightened caution and then allow people to navigate together.
We should always strive to educate and provide tools. When you tell a person they can't do something then they'll just do it without understanding why they aren't supposed to or, worse, predators will find those who were excluded from safer spaces. Harm is not reduced, an educator just gets to walk away from the harm with a simple "I said they shouldn't".
And plus, I said 8% of the general population...
Within hypnosis circles I assure you it is far higher when one factors in that multiple studies have supplied evidence that hypnotic susceptibility increases along with dissociative capacity.
Suffice to say, from utilizing hypnotic susceptibility tests (HGSHS) and dissociative tests (SDD and DES) the more a person dissociates, the more susceptible to hypnosis they are.
The human mind uses dissociation as a way of coping with physical and emotional pain, among other necessary inner needs, and so a person suffering from a mental illness that features dissociation becomes a naturally gifted hypnotee. It's a matter of practicing a skill constantly without realizing that they are refining something useful. Wax-On/Wax-Off.
This leads to a number of safety concerns. We've typed on serious concerns such as altering sense of identity and derealization attacks from lack of grounding. This is a topic near and dear to our heart as we acknowledge that we needed to gain an education in how to safely consent to hypnosis play and failing to do so in the past caused harm to ourselves and to those we played with.
So here's a list of potential dangers in playing with those who are further along the dissociative spectrum, how to mitigate those dangers and create a space where everyone can play safely.
I'll focus on hypnotees with dissociative experiences for the most part as the relationship between dissociation and hypnosis is primarily a concern while the hypnotee is in trance. That having been said I acknowledge that Dom Space connects just as much to the spectrum and an entire new post can be made on the topic of performing hypnosis when you have a dissociative disorder.
Heaven knows it is a topic I study feverishly to maintain safety for myself and those who entrust their mind to my care.
So... with that said, let's talk about the dangers.
Abreactions
This is likely the most common concept that comes up when thinking of the relationship between PTSD and hypnosis. An abreaction is the moment a hypnosis session or scene goes off the rails because the hypnotee is actively reacting to a trauma trigger while they are in a suggestible state. Their Fight/Flight/Freeze/Fawn impulse may be triggered and cause a physical or emotional reaction which was not part of the negotiated/planned scene.
This could be a cut and dry example of "and think about all the times you've been hypnotized right there on that sofa" causing a hypnotee to follow the suggestion and regress in memory to a time before a bad break-up when their former partner hypnotized them on the sofa they are currently on.
It could be an abstract example like "imagining yourself in a field of flowers and breathing in, noting how lovely the scent is, like the most beautiful perfume." causing sense memory to trigger the scent of a perfume that was in the air during a traumatic moment of their life that instantly flips the switch in their mind to go into F/F/F/F mode.
Likely any given hypnotist will experience this at some point in their life. The first example is one that any person could experience. Hypnosis naturally draws upon associations and when you create an association in the present to a negative emotion in the past you will summon it into the present.
With the second example, that association is already there and it was activated during the scene. The source of the abreaction. I avoid using the word "Trigger" both because of shitty internet discourse in the 2010s and because the term is used for other things in hypnosis, but that is what it is. A sense, a memory, an association which causes the source of trauma to intrude upon the present. The danger that the hypnotee experiences in these moments is very real.
Typically when I discuss these topics I put a disclaimer and emphasize how present the traumatic experience is. My hope is that anyone who is interested in hypnosis knows full well how true and powerful inner experiences are. If you doubt that then I sincerely do not know why you are in this community to begin with.
How to prevent an abreaction is important but should never be learned at the expense of learning how to handle an abreaction. Prevention is about disclosing during negotiation, asking the hypnotee to volunteer anything which may activate a negative reaction or simply what topics to avoid. Phobias are common enough examples of things that a hypnotist should know before working.
But disclosing every part of a trance or scene during the early phases of a hypnotic relationship is essential too. This way the hypnotee does not get surprised by anything propping up during play and they can measure their expected reactions before going into a suggestible state.
But if, despite caution, something does happen? What then?
Noting that every abreaction manifests specific to the person, their situation, their emotional state and how the scene caused it to happen. The first thing the hypnotist needs to do is not overreact. Over-correcting is an easy mistake to make in the moment but it will lead to an overall negative outcome.
Assess the situation and try to recognize what is happening. I had mentioned that the reflex is "Fight/Flight/Freeze/Fawn" this can be obvious like thrashing or ejecting out of trance instantly. It could be something harder to notice like locking up and becoming unresponsive or emotionally regressing to a terrified state.
If the hypnotee is still in trance then do your best to offer comfort and grounding. Remind them what is happening, remind them that they are safe, perform some grounding exercises such as box breathing (breathe in, hold, exhale for a number of seconds).
Touch is a case by case situation here. I know if I were having an emotional flashback to an assault then being touched would launch me further into abreaction territory. If you believe holding a hand would be beneficial then at the very least communicate it "I'm here, I'm going to take your hand, everything's safe, I'm here."
Over distance you should communicate this via modality. "I'm here, just listen to my voice, focus on the sounds in the room, I'm not going anywhere" for an audio example, "Just feel the blanket beneath you, you can brush your fingers against it if you need" for touch based.
The idea is to use emotional comfort, sensory grounding and patience to bring the hypnotee gently out of the moment.
Then apply aftercare and discuss what happened, what could be improved, what the hypnotee needs and acknowledge that the stress of these moments impacts the hypnotist too. Leave room for the hypnotist to recover as much as the hypnotee.
Decide together if this will end the session or not. Do not cut off on principal. If someone is conditioned to believe that displaying their negative reactions will lead to play stopping then they will hide those reactions. Accept that they happen. Learn how to grow together and incorporate care, comfort and safety into every scene.
Spontaneous Hypnotic Amnesia
One danger for those who suffer dissociative disorders is that their brains are very good at editing information. The further down the spectrum one is, the more adept their mind is at naturally pushing away things that they do not wish to think about nor have the capacity to integrate.
One categorization of dissociation is a failure for the brain to integrate information and experience. It is the cause of time dilation, it is why critical thinking is bypassed and it is why those further on the dissociative spectrum are able to compartmentalize their experiences so effortlessly that they can maintain dissociated personalities.
Where most people who practice hypnosis typically have to study how to achieve post-hypnotic amnesia, those who begin working with hypnosis with patholigized dissociative experiences may need to learn how not to experience it. I include this as I have spoken to multiple people who have lived this reality and it is something we ourselves experienced in the past.
Should a newer hypnotee show signs that they are not remembering what is happening during trance, it is a good practice to train them on how to retain information. Hypnotee Agency is a skill that one develops and allowing them the knowledge that they can chose to retain the information during a trance is as important as reinforcing how easy and normal it is to forget when that is a negotiated part of the scene.
All it takes to be safe here is to just remind them that if they wish to and find it enjoyable to do so, they may retain the information from this trance.
Nothing more complicated than that.
Derealization/Unreality
Derealization is a common experience within dissociation that is actually lower on the dissociative spectrum than PTSD. It is when you do not feel attached to your present experiences in real time.
A common version of this is "Deja Vu" which is a sensation where you are having difficulty integrating your present experience because it "feels" like you've already experienced it.
It can manifest in many other ways, however the commonality is that the person experiencing this knows that it's abnormal. When a person is disconnected from their surroundings like this they may experience a barrier between themselves and the world, they may have a distorted sense of time and they may become physically unresponsive and withdrawn.
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Source: Mayo Clinic
The best way to handle this is to make sure that grounding always includes a thorough count-up that lets a person feel both in their body (this will help with depersonalization too) and aware of their surroundings. Ensuring both debriefing and aftercare focus on keeping reality in the room is important when someone's sense of what is real can drift.
For that reason it's a good idea to try and reinforce those ideas of what is real and save them in a little box that can be stored away if there are ever any reality altering suggestions in play, that way retrieving and unpacking that box can just be a natural part of the post-scene.
I linked it earlier, but my post on the topic can be found here.
Depersonalization/Altered States of Identity
Ah, our favorite soapbox.
Much like derealization, depersonalization is a symptom that is lower on the scale than PTSD and is actively invoked during inductions such as the Bandler which turns a handshake into the hypnotee starring at their hand and having the sensation of the hand distanced from their mind. Literally dissociating the hand from your body and using that sensation to build a trance.
It's a good induction. All forms of dissociation are not bad things. That is something I want to make sure an audience fully understands. This post is here to destigmatize, particularly when a 101 class was teaching stigma.
Depersonalization is a disconnection from one's sense of self. These are the moments when one feels like they are not the ones living through a moment, they are experiencing themselves from an outside perspective.
Once again, things that are utilized heavily in induction patter.
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Source: Mayo Clinic
The derealization advice works well in this case, particularly the idea of creating a "back-up" to restore carefully at the end of a scene.
The big difference though is that depersonalization as a natural thing that those with dissociative disorders do can lead to some bleed when doing suggestions which alter a person's sense of self. I highly recommend an optional suggestion or affirmation that can help a hypnotee ground themselves. That may be too close to therapy for many though.
The hard part about being safe with depersonalization symptoms is that they are typically things that we actively engage with during hypnosis. I guarantee at least one person read "Feeling like a robot or that you're not in control of what you say or how you move." and thought of that as an absolute win.
This is where a bit of negotiation and hypnotee agency comes into play. Reality needs to be kept in the room during all hypnosis. Diving into ego-death or erasing reality may be tempting, especially for those who aren't particularly fond of reality or themselves, but it is too dangerous to surrender those things.
My definitive post on the topic has more information.
Though while I'm talking about altered personalities, I want to make something clear which I did not type about much in my Personality Play post...
Plurality
This is a topic on its own which could take on an entire post to itself. I may yet write it. If anyone has read our Madison and Belladonna stories they would know that they are written entirely based upon the life lessons Daja and I have been learning while I began therapy and was diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Many of my lessons for how to safely play with plural systems are mixed in with the fiction.
When I say Plural I mean to refer to those who have multiple dissociated personalities, along with circumstances such as dissociative barriers.
There are as many displays of plurality as there are people who experience it. Every system is different. No two people are not on fire (awww).
So with that said, any play on either side of the watch is going to be lead with self-advocating. A hypnotic relationship involving a system (or more than one, even) will need a level of disclosure. Not just that a system exists but how that system manifests. What patterns are known regarding switches, what best works when an unexpected switch occurs, what levels of dissociative barriers exist between alters/parts, what terminology is preferred...
Wait, that's a lot to throw at once.
Our version of plurality is based upon Dissociative Identity Disorder. Which is to say that my system, originating via complex PTSD during childhood, used to have firm dissociative barriers between one another. This meant that, prior to diagnosis, you could have an emotionally charged conversation with me, Dawn, and then the next day Cammie will wake up and depending on the level of dissociation (typically but not always linked to stress or proximity to trauma triggers) will either not remember what happened during that conversation or will not carry the emotions that I had experienced. "Not remembering" can simply be "won't think about"
As I said, it's quite subjective. But the conceit is that with those on the DID spectrum will have a complete disconnect between parts/alters.
For those with less dissociation, but still experience plurality, they may not have amnesia or barriers between parts, allowing themselves to communicate with one another actively.
Within psychological communities there is eternal debate on all of these experiences and one of the more poignant debates is that the difference between DID and OSDD seems to just be a level of severity and that treatment and therapy tactics tend to move DID patients into the OSDD box and so they shouldn't be labeled as separate disorders.
These rules on amnesia, inner communication and emotional consistency between parts typically apply outside of disorders. I do not wish to engage in syscourse. But as above when I mentioned abreactions, those who practice with hypnosis know how capable a mind is to create hypnotically induced personalities. There are experiences outside of the DSM-V and that really shouldn't be a controversial statement.
A switch is when one part/alter trades out for another. The reasons are hyper specific to every system and cannot really be predicted without knowing their circumstances intimately. For instance the scent of lavender will draw me out without fail.
These can happen without warning and during hypnosis. Being cautious about body language, tone of voice and sudden changes in mood are the best you can do without guidance from the one with lived experience.
I'd also cautiously warn to end a scene and check in if there is an unexpected switch and there's no negotiated playbook on what to do in case of a switch.
The first Madison and Belladonna story tells the story of that very circumstance because that happened in my real life.
For safety it is best to try and communicate with the entire system over how to approach any aspect of hypnosis play. Exploring is a collaborative action and it can be a rewarding experience to find what works and what doesn't work. But it does take time.
For some basic "until I know better" rules, I'd say NEVER FORCE A SWITCH is a fairly basic rule, though. Also do not assume consent for a specific part/alter counts as consent for the whole system.
There is so much to say on this topic and I will likely revisit it at another point, but much of the safety tied up with DID and identity based dissociative disorders boils down to the fact that you are negotiating consent for a group and that you cannot always guarantee that the hypnotee at the start of a scene will always be present during the entire scene.
To that, I say treat switches like an abreaction, display acceptance and curiosity and don't get too hung up on the circumstances.
At the end of the day plural folx are just people too, just not person.
So... why did I write all this, anyway?
A lovely friend of mine recently joked that Charmed 2024 was the "Year of Plurality" and in a way they were right. I've been attending the event since 2020 and where my first had been a humble little class of 8 or so people on a Sunday afternoon ran by Vulpes Automata (Vulpes teaches the same class at Plural Positivity, albeit without the hypnosis content, a recording is hosted here) this year's event included many systems declaring themselves as such on their badge, both an in-person and online unconference that stretched beyond the time limits put in place and were feverishly well attended.
It has done my heart so good to see the safety and community growing and becoming more accepting.
It reminds me of the community's slow growth to accepting and embracing the transgender community in the mid-2010s.
Which is why I wish to be firm about trying to stop bad ideas from taking root in how we teach on these topics.
Some may remember that in the 2000s, respectable resources teaching hypnokink used to state firmly to "confirm biological sex" with any potential play partner. Said material has been revised. Times change and communities grow.
So when I see this teaching graphic saying that those who dissociate as part of a mental illness "Can't" be hypnotized, due to safety concerns? I get worried.
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It was being used in a 101 class at the very same Charmed event that I am praising for having such good acceptance of plural experiences?
I lived this once as a closeted transgender woman. I don't want to live it again with our DID.
And I remember that "never play with anyone who has a mental illness" used to be taught in the same resources that once said to disclose one's "biological sex". People have taught this in classes and been approached by someone who had a mental illness and told how ignorant it was to teach that they could not be played with.
We, as a community, can do better.
I'd rather a 3 hour 101 become a 4 hour 101 and teach this material than to dismiss those who are the most vulnerable and susceptible and have them seek their trances from those who do not have reservations about safety and ethics.
Thank you for reading. I know this was a big soap box.
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qu1etdays · 6 months ago
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@hypnodondon123 <——— I do recommend blocking this dude because of the lack of consent shown. Y’all be safe out there.
PLEASE BE CAREFUL, I received this messages from this account. The screenshot speaks for itself
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qu1etdays · 5 months ago
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A gang of posts coming up...
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