#hybe will pay for they've done

[mvrkieboo]

need to get this off my chest

i understand that the hybe documents being made public is peeling your eyes on how hostile hybe actually is, however, do you wanna know what should be the main takeaway of this bullshit coming to light???

hybe THE COMPANY itself is the toxic one here. so i don't know if this is just stan twt or something but why tf am i seeing people attacking hybe ARTISTS??? BITCH THEY'RE THE VICTIMS TOO, AND I DON'T EVEN STAN ANY HYBE GRPS (nj don't count as a hybe grp anymore okay? i love those girls down) 💀 if anything, those documents further proves that they only see idols as products, and that includes their own!!! have we not seen txt and enha members admitting to being overworked? the sabotage of nj? oh for fuck's sake

im seeing people dragging sakura with that clip of her crying because she's lowkey going through a panic attack over the anxiety of performing in front of an audience—like wtf??? i mean, i don't stan lsf, much less even care abt them tbh but where is your empathy??? im a hardcore aespa stan too but the way those toxic mys are moving on stan twt...good lord. they need to get help.

yeah i understand some of those drags on lsf are responses to drags on aespa, but can you not think anymore??? can you not try to be mature??? both aespa and lsf have gone through massive hate trains and some of y'all go BULLYING IS A PROBLEM then turn around and do the same bullshit. it's giving me aneurysms. when will this cycle end???

y'all don't like how fearnots/mys are doing too much dragging aespa/lsf? then do NOT FUCKING ENGAGE IT'S THAT SIMPLE. see that block button? UTILISE IT BITCH IT'S THERE FOR A REASON. you're feeding and feeding and feeding into this cycle of bullying all in the name of your idol grps not even realising this kind of cycle is what keeps greedy companies like hybe going. god i hate stan twt.

fuck hybe. fuck scooter. FUCK toxic stan twt users who can't seem to understand the impact of their nasty words.

[not-goldy]

Do you think streaming to prove that BTS is better than the rest as a go to solution is maybe counterproductive sometimes? I was thinking about it but none of the members own the rights to their music. Not even yoongi who wrote and produced under Agust D instead of Suga. Big Hit owns all the rights. Idk I get revenge streaming to make our members do well, especially against another group or artist or company but the issue at hand right now is that there was a paid smear campaign put against yoongi.

This is definitely just a conspiracy theory but someone had to fund out that money. I just remember when Jungkook had that pregnancy rumour happen, Bighit did nothing and army chose to stream to show support, keeping him at number 1. Now I don’t know anything about legal matters so maybe thats how it seemed on the outside but behind closed doors, shit was getting done. But again a hate campaign was put against a BTS member and Hybe is moving silently and army are choosing to chart all of Agust Ds discography and idk. I want his music to chart and get the appreciation it deserves but then I also think about how this company who was silent gets to gain more revenue from his songs charting. So yeah feel free to correct me if this is all bullshit. You just seem smart and observant.

Absolutely 💯

Hence my love hate Relationship with Hybe and Bang PD and corporations in general. They make resources available to these boys but the boys are also a resource to them. The more money and connections they invest into the boys the more money they make and the bigger their network of connections get.

The inverse is also true. However I feel at this stage in their careers they've automated so much and the boys have amassed enough social currency that it doesn't take much investment for them to turn a profit. So sometimes hybe just can't be bothered. Profits are made when you invest little and sell at a higher price.

It's a cash grab economy my dear. Companies are compromising quality and legacy to make a buck. Hybe unfortunately is no different.

When it comes to protecting their artists I feel it comes with the boys giving up greater autonomy in exchange for it. The relationship between hybe and the boys are determined by the content of their contract which is something I keep hammering on.

Hybe is not a charity nor are they parents to the boys. What they do for the boys is not free and the boys have to accept it or even consent to it to begin with. The relationship between them and the boys is pure business and the contract between them sets the LIMITS abd extent of the company's reach into their lives.

Think of it like this,

If hybe is to become BTS's attack dog, what will the boys be willing to do for hybe in exchange for that?? Will they pay hybe more?? And sometimes it's not even what they are willing to do, it's about what they are willing to allow or give up in exchange for such a protection.

A person who has signed off much of their autonomy would of course enjoy more privileges and protection from the company- I'm talking flying first class, staying in 1st class hotels, top notch body guards, assistants, a legal team and hit man on speed dial.

But that means hybe gets to control what they eat who they talk to who they sleep with where there go who they go with where they stay how much sleep they get and all that will cost you more % of their earnings.

Would you go for such a deal if you were in their shoes?

Or would you choose and pick what hybe has to offer in exchange for less control over your life while retaining a bigger percentage of your revenue?? In which case, you book your own flights, pay for your own accommodation when you travel and Sue when you are being attacked personally etc???

Their business relationship with hybe is evolving. The more successful they become the less control they would want hybe to have over them and the less hybe can meddle or intervene in their affairs.

They've literally gone from hybe questioning them over the slightest relationship rumor to saying such matters are their private lives, to now allowing them to sue in their personal capacity🙃

The boys are becoming autonomous over time and I think that's a good thing even if there's a down side to it.

I think hybe will fight for their interests as long as they remain their artists but that would depend on the resources they have and whether or not there is a contractual obligation or interest that needs to be protected.

As long as hybe is interested in them it will protect its interests including them.

I like reading contractual agreements for fun and I would do anything to get my hands on hybe's contract with BTS as a group and as solos.

It's okay to feel some type of way about the company but for now understand they have a mutually beneficial relationship and arrangement with the boys. They profit when the boys are successful but only the boys will suffer if they do not succeed so keep supporting the boys. Focus on their career and trust that they are constantly fighting for their own interests in that dynamic too.

I'm dozing off🥲

[always-is-always]

Monetization -it's all about profit

It really is, when one steps back and looks at the massive business that has been created around BTS. Of course they are going to monetize everything possible, because they know that ARMYs are going to spend their money on it. Even when it is useless stuff that isn't worth 5% of the price they charge for it.

Maybe it's because I see what they are doing as one who looks at the bigger pictures in life. Maybe it's because I see photos of ARMY's who have obviously spend tons of money on stuff that really has no long-term value. Maybe it is because I am a self-supporting woman who works hard to keep a roof over her head, while paying her bills. Maybe it is because I understand corporate mentalities, and corporate greed.

Maybe it is simply because I believe that it is really TOO MUCH, to expect ARMYs to fork out their money for every single little thing.

That latest pop-up thing that they've connected to Tae is what got me started on this little rant. I know it isn't Tae. He just happens to be the member that HYBE decided to use for this particular little "event" that they have scheduled in multiple cities across the world.

Yeah.

Spend $50 and get a FREE STICKER!!!

You've got to be kidding me.

Really?

Spend 50 freaking dollars on MERCHANDISE, and they give you a "free" sticker? Do they think that ARMYs are that easily convinced that that is an awesome deal? Like Win/Win? Like you get a freaking sticker for spending what amounts to a tank of gas (for my car)?

Sorry, not sorry. It urks me beyond what I can type here.

This is the stuff that gets me. They know that many ARMYs are going to do it. They know it, and they don't care that it is money that might need to actually be spent on things like food, shelter, bills...

I know that it is a choice for people to spend their money on that stuff, but I also know that a lot of those people believe that it helps the members when they do. The members are all multi-millionaires. Bang PD is a billionaire. None of them have to work another day in their lives. They are not living paycheck-to-paycheck, like I do....like many do.

So yeah. I do think that they could do more for ARMYs in providing content that is FREE, like they did with Yoongi's show. I do think that they could bring the price of their merchandise down, and to make it more affordable, for us. Especially when you factor in the shipping costs. They really could, if they wanted to.

I've done my part in buying CDs, when I wanted to and could spend the money. For the most part I have sworn off any urge to buy a tee-shirt or some other merch that I don't need. (I have 2 hoodies and 2 tees in the closet, that I never wear.) If anything I'll save up and hope to have enough for a concert ticket, if they ever come close enough to my part of the world. For me, seeing them in person still lives on my Bucket List. A live concert is a justifiable way to spend money, for me.

Sorry for this rant. Frustration over that stupid "free sticker!" got the best of me. It's probably due to just some general stresses in life that are not related to this in any way. It's just Life.

[dearweirdme]

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HYBe absolutely monitor the fans and fandom engagement. I don't want to shit in anyone's cornflakes because I know some people still like to think of B.T.S as completely organic but they're not and never have been. The group is a product, first and foremost and the company considers the individuals in it to be products too.

You don't get to go from bare minimum to being a billion dollar company off the back of 7 kids unless you are willing to milk them and their supporters dry. You just don't.

Their business model is obvious and so is their manipulation of the group and the fans. These guys were practically children when they got the job and we've literally seen them sing and dance until they break, faint, cry and then hit up a live telling army that they willing to give anything and everything to them. They're institutionalised into this shit and conditioned from their most secondary formative years that the show MUST go on and that pleasing the fans is #1 priority--- and that's why I can never blame them for doing their job because it's so obvious how much of a controlling hand the company has over them

Consider this. They've been performing for 10+ years, members have had a hand in the creative process, they've sold out tours, broke every record there is, badically rule the charts, done multiple variety shows and extra content and are still nowhere close to being as rich as they should be because despite his eye on the western market, Bang never wanted to pay those Western wages and is/was more than happy enough to stick to the Korean model when it comes to underpaying his moneymakers (the members have only an estimated 5% share each in the billion dollar company that they helped build from the ground up) In 2024, for example, Tae is considered the richest member with a $40 million dollar estimated networth and a chunk of that comes from his brand deals. Compare their individual wealth with Western artists who have been performing less years and doing less PR and putting in less grind.

(I'm sure their contracts look much different now but that doesn't change the fact that for the 7 years he had them locked in, they were being vastly ripped off based on contracts they agreed to as poor and/or unknown kids)

As for the fans, if people still want to delude themselves that the group is a special exception to the Korean entertainment model, consider the fact that years ago, Hybeee literally put out a survey that included questions about the (YOUNG) fans mental health, self esteem etc and the next release after that was, LOVE YOURSELF and the heavy messaging that came with it seemed very inspired by those survery answers. (If people want to go back, that's when a good few of us old heads started looking kinda side eyed at the company because we were sipping the 'not like other groups' koolaid too) It seems like a good thing in theory that a company is asking fans for input but it wasn't a nice feeling to feel like we were being tapped via a marketing survery at our most vulnerable level to decide the groups next concept

(And yes, LOVE YOURSELF not a bad message but it proves that the creative direction isn't as organic as people want to believe it is and that the company actively mined fans for information on what will increase engagement -> money)

Anyway, rant over but TLDR; the company has always been greedy, controlling, intrusive and shady as hell and the group have never been the creatively organic wet dream that fans convinced themselves they were...and hybee have been hoarding the bag from day one and the members should have been paid more

Hi anon!

Oh, the psychological layers in all of this are extreme! We as fans try to explain and give reason to their actions, but none of us are able to come close to actually understanding what it’s been like growing up in the kpop industry.

I’m not at all surprised by Hybe being on top of trends in the Kpop industry. That’s absolutely necessary to stay on top. I was surprised at the way they did it and the unprofessional manor in which it has been done. Hybe ia absolutely right by apologizing, though it’s too little too late imo. I doubt they are actually sorry about being harmful, and they’re probably more concerned with how this reflects on them.

One thing that stood by me was Jk’s response to someone asking him if he got scolded by the company by doing the InstaLive with Tae. He said something along the lines of him not having been scolded because he has already been an idol for so many years. It’s subtle, but he’s basically saying that had he been a rookie.. he would not have had freedom. We know these things. We know by many subtle comments and by learning about the Kpop industry that Idols have many restrictions and rules. I suspect BTS members by now have more freedom (Jk and Tae both went live constantly and seemingly without company knowledge last year). I also think there’s still restrictions and they are not allowed to do things that go against their image.

Small detour: I think there’s a lot of genuineness as well. I think members do try to be honest in the ways they can. I recently saw an ask about Jkk in Ays having been inspired by fanfics, but the anon being confused about the romantic part (I forget which blog, apologies). And I can see the confusion, because I think while the storyline of AYS could be inspired by fanficlike ideas (two young men on the brink of enlistment, bonding before losing their freedom) the execution was very broey.

Back on track: To Hybe, BTS is a product. They use business tactics to sell them. There’s little feelings concerned when it comes to the people on top and members. I would actually not be surprised if Hybe was already making plans to slowly push another band upfront.

[chim-chim1310]

Won't even be surprised if jk is one of the reasons why the group won't last longer anymore. It's impossible for the group to never discuss all that's happening now especially since they've been proud of being organic for a long time. I refuse to believe that RM will be fine with all that's happening because for me he's the most woke among them. Jimin and Yoongi are too but they're probably softer to jk, though they're not pushovers. I just won't believe that the other members will be fine with being treated like they matter less than the maknae. That'll build resentment over time and it won't be good either way. Now it dawns on me that when hobi said that jk does not listen, it's probably coming more from years of frustration. Jk thinks he's invincible right now but he's in for a rude awakening because not everyone loses their morals

I would literally pay to know members real thought about all this.

There's no way anyone is okay with this. All bts member together struggled to get bts to where they are right now. All bts members worked hard equally. But only one member is getting the prince treatment and the others are getting pushed behind. There's no way anyone is okay with this.

I wouldn't include yoongi because I think yoongi is the second fav of the group and hybe likes to put him on a pedestal.

But others. I refused to believe that they're okay with being wronged like that.

I would really like to know their real thoughts and not just the same manufactured answers forcing the ot7 agenda.

It's clear hybe is trying to make jk bigger than jimin and bigger than bts. Somehow their main competitor seems to be jimin. Maybe because jimin is the only one who can reach on the top purely on his own talent.

But yeah. After all this dirty business if hybe succeeded in establishing jk as a proper soloist then it will be like a 'jungkook and 6 friends' situation in the group. And no one with dignity would tolerate that. Bts are not a rookie group that they would tolerate something like that. I'm pretty sure they'll leave the group and become a soloist if something like this ever happens.

Also even before this I never believed that they would come together as ot7 after the military. Mainly because they will change a lot in 2years. Most probably they all would want different things from their life and it would be difficult for them to manage together as a group. I think members would want different things .....

Tae : I think tae is not even that passionate about music. Yeah he has made some good music but most of his songs sound the same. And he seems to be more into becoming a socialite than doing the actual idol things. Idk I never felt his passion for that. I think after the military he'll most probably pursue acting.

Jin : I think Jin doesn't want to be an idol anymore. I just got this feeling he seems done with the idol thing. I think he'll either go for a normal life or maybe just a singer and NOT a proper idol like situation where he'll dance and all.

Rm, yoongi will for sure pursue music but solo.

Jimin will for sure go the proper idol route. I see his passion in it.

Jungkook...... Well..... Our established western artist lol. Idk if what hybe is doing will help him in the long run but idk. I think hybe is investing hard in jk so he'll obviously go for that route.

I know they said that they would come together but even before I hardly believed that and now too I'm sure that they wouldn't. It would be a miracle if they will.

[irishhorse-blog]

wait im new to the fandom did jimin have something similar to jk happen to him?

Someone misappropriated his mail and prevented him from paying some health insurance premiums that were due. He didn't even know about them, because he was overseas when the notice was sent. Then, on the very day that his song "With You" dropped, these same people released the news that he'd been threatened with foreclosure if he didn't pay the insurance, and they doxxed him. The authorities accepted that it was an innocent oversight and he paid the bill and everything was back to normal, but the fact remained that these people did everything they could to sabotage his release, put him in danger, and cast shade on his character.

Some people thought it was done by someone inside Hybe, and I've heard rumors (so take it with a pillar of salt) that they've found antis and stans of other competing groups working in Hybe and causing trouble.

I'm still mad when I think about it.

[banghwa]

Probably unpopular opinion, but I think a lot of people have projected their own views onto BTS and are now angry/confused that BTS aren’t living up to that idea they had in their head, when BTS never promised them that and never actually changed. They have always done sponsorship/brand partnership stuff. The earliest I can think of was in 2014 but it may have been even earlier and I’ve just forgotten. They chose to be idols and they would have known this is part of that life. They were attacked enough for that decision early on (particularly Yoongi and Namjoon), so it’s sad to see their own fans seeing it as a mark of inauthenticity when they themselves have long since made peace with what other people can only see as as a contradiction.

And personally, as someone who’s been with them nearly their whole career I have to say it’s a little weird seeing people (especially newer ARMYs who weren’t even here then) try to rewrite history and pretend that stuff wasn’t always there. It’s also particularly strange to me seeing some stuff be seen wholly negatively. So few people seem to recognise that just by putting their name to something they can have a stream of income for the company they are still largely carrying that doesn’t require them to work themselves to death. It takes off pressure and they can concentrate more on music, and with that music they can pace themselves rather than needing multiple comebacks a year. For example, I remember the relief I felt with BT21 because I knew those characters could essentially do the work for them.

Idk, it’s almost like people romanticise their pain before when they were exhausted all the time and struggling financially, rather than seeing them as human beings who would inevitably want security and chance to rest without worrying how it would affect their company and everyone who works for it. I was there then, it was heartbreaking to watch and I find it pretty messed up that people talk about it wistfully. That’s not a fair thing to expect of them just for whatever ideal you’ve projected on then.

Obviously you don’t not have to agree with all their choices or agree with BH/HYBE all the time, that’s fine. It just bothers me people don’t recognise their own discomfort and instead project it onto a group of grown men either supposedly betraying them by changing (they didn’t) or being used/forced to do these things (pretty ridiculous considering they could easily walk always from HYBE and sign with whoever the hell they like, I’m sure they’d have plenty of offers). If they’re not who you want then to be, accept that it’s your standard that is causing you to feel unhappy, don’t put it on them.

no i totally get where you're coming from, and i want to reiterate i KNOW that this is coming from personal disappointment, dont get it twisted.

i don't think there's anything wrong with bts doing brand deals, nor do i think it necessarily makes them inauthentic. my concern mainly comes from how much promotion they're doing relative i guess. i cant count how many brand deals they've done this year, on top of so much of their recent content being paid as well. its just frustrating to me as a consummer that the stuff i want to interact with is constantly showing more ways to waste my money, even when you pay for the content. its just inaccessible and alienating, and again, thats a personal frustration.

and i do see your point about "romanticizing" their struggle, thats really not what i mean to do at all. i know for a fact that bangtan deserve all this success more than everyone, and while it did shape them into the artists they are, no one should have to go through that struggle just to be validated. that being said, i think there is a conversation to have on art made from a marginalized background vs art made from a place of privilege, not a conversation i will have here tho bcs there are too many layers to it. on the other hand, while i do agree that the brand deal are probably a good break, i cant help but wonder when does it stop being a break and when does it start being work as well. you could probably also easily argue that the amount of time they've dedicated to things that arent their art ie soop, brand deals, american promotions, more brand deals, interviews, more brand deals, that it hardly leaves them proper time to rest. the difference now too is that the deals don't come from a need. bts dont need any more money. this isnt an act of survival or an investment for them to get a bit of passive income. its just work now.

again, i do get where you're coming from, but i do think things are a little more complicated than you have them layed out to be. bangtan cant just up and leave hybe without a lot going into it im talking lawyers, ndas, etc etc and thats not even covering public backlash. its really not that simple, and i know the same can be said about my own opinions. its not really about holding bts up to some promise they never made. of course we shouldnt expect specific things from them, but it also doesn't mean that we can't be disappointed when certain decision are made. thats just how interacting with people works, we're all bound to have different values, doesn't mean i can't be a bit miffed when they do or say something i dont agree with. also i dont think its fair for you to belittle the efforts bts have made throughout their career to stand for causes and values they obviously are very passionate about, like social change and their music. i get being upset with people having high expectations of them, but to pretend like bts never expressed any emotions of pride into anything they've ever done to show that they care is honestly insultin. how are you going to tell me not to have standards when im here because bts set them in the first place.

[bisexualhobi]

I got into BTS soon after MOTS so there isn’t that much nostalgia for me. But everything that’s been happening has just been so disappointing and sad to me. When I got into bts, I fell HARD. Their music, their concepts, were so special to me. I never cry to music and Sea made me sob like a baby. I was ready to risk it all for Jungkook.

Dynamite came around and I was iffy. It was my first time seeing streaming culture and to this DAY, I don’t like it. And I thought it was so weird because I remember seeing like 2017 content of them saying they’d never sing in English. But whatever, it’s one song. Then there was BE, which was marketed as a self produced album but was described by the members as a “brutal” process because THEIR SONGS were being rejected?! Then there was the Grammys desperation. Then we had Butter. And PTD. Then Namjoon basically brushing aside toxic Army’s opinions. And now he’s basically openly saying he’d suck Scooter Braun’s dick so he could pay BTS’s way to getting a Grammy?? I might be done man. The next Korean album will probably be make-it-or-break-it for me, unless there’s a scandal or something. But I’m so disappointed, and kinda grossed out(?) in these artists who I really loved at one point. It’s also more important for me to make a decision because I personally collect BTS albums, and everything that HYBE and Bts have been doing have really made me consider if I want to continue collecting them. Maybe the rest of their old albums, but new stuff? Yeah we’ll see :/ any other collectors feeling like this lmao??

any other collectors care to weigh in? I have friends who collect bts stuff and they've literally been selling their stuff cause they don't wanna be part of the fandom like this anymore :/ only good thing is they've gotten a pretty penny for it

[not-goldy]

Hey Goldy,

Just re-read your post on bts ships and ITS, and I was wondering if you had any thoughts about why Hybe allowed or thought it was a good idea for Jikook to do the travel show? I’m thinking in the round because they haven’t really promoted it on their channels, sold it to Disney and left it, so what was in it for them? How do you think Jikook approached them with it?

Thanks

Oh I should have linked my other post that predicted jikook was likely gonna get their own reality show after BTS was done!

Someone like it so I can find it and link it🥴

I think even if Jikook hadn't approached them with it they would have approached Jikook with it. The chemistry they have is highly and easily marketable and Disney housing them only means more money and autonomy for them.

And guys please watch the shit out of it so Disney knows there's an audience for such content.

You see think of this again as a business, and Jikook are the product. The usual strategy of such businesses is to invest in the product and sell it not to keep the product for ya self and or keep investing in it forever. The eng game is to sell and generate revenue from it.

If jikook are able to pull this off it only means more investors more brand deals and an evergreen content that's gonna make more and more money

Hybe will either use the money from investors they attract to reinvest in it's business and with little costs cos cost of production of the content would have been paid for.

There's so many places in the world they can visit. Which means they need someone to pay for flights accommodations health insurance traveling insurance and so on.

It's a business.

All they need is for jikook to keep jikooking and like Jungkook said for them to learn to be better entertainers and make sure the content they put out is engaging

And I think on that Jimin can make a lot of input. He knows what sells and he knows how to work an audience.

And if they are out of ideas I have plenty of ideas to last them a life time and yall trust me right??? Tsk I gatchall😌

About promoting it, a you have to consider the co nflirt of interest their platform is a competitor you know??? The whole idea is to have people run to Disney and watch Disney. If they showing it in their platform that would defeat the purpose

Two since it's Disney's platform they trying to promote, Disney would have to pay hybe to promote the content on hybe's platform 🥴

The least they can do is to agree to post say highlights every now and then and make a post about it every week

You get that people get paid to post stuff on their own platforms rights??? Hybe is no different. They've amassed a lot of following and traction and they have monetized that traction. If Disney wants them to promote Disney hard they gotta make it rain on them

It's why they "accidentally" post other artists to Army on weverse. It's not an accident they trying to make money off their platform.

These artists join weverse because they hope to tap into Hybe's huge user base.

There's plenty in it for hybe. If jikook is a success they would have to replicate that success or find a way to monetize the other members through units or solo shows like what Jin is doing.

Sope could come up with an idea for a show for example. In such a situation even if they fund the show by themselves and search for investors by themselves or sell the show to disney by themselves, hybe still earns a commission on their earnings as their agent. As their agent hybe earns a commission on allllllllll their earnings regardless of where that earnings come from.

But if hybe also provide the money for their show or find investors for them, (this is extra work done or extra investment) so when all is done hybe can either enter a partnership agreement with Sope to air the show on hybes independent platform like weverse but sope would have to pay hybe for airing it on such platform and also split revenue with them because they are the investors and on top of that hybe still earns a commission as their agency in charge of managing their career.

Or sope can choose to go with a third party platform like Disney instead of weverse and if Disney buys the show sope gets paid and then they have to pay back hybe for that initial investment in their show on top of paying them a commission on their earnings as they are their agent.

Or Sope can get bought out by Netflix or any other such platforms and it would be the same process.

Jikook are not doing this for free and neither are hybe or Disney or Netflix. They have a business relationship between them and everyone gets to take home something

Edit

Though I must add that it's not always the case that their shows will be bought by third party platforms. Sometimes they can enter an agreement that benefits both sides or even pay Disney themselves if they want to tap into the audience of Disney rather than Disney tapping theirs.

[not-goldy]

Do you think they will put Jikook's show behind a paywall like other shows they've done? If that happens I doubt people but Jikookers would pay to watch it and then it would just add to the fanservice narrative more. They did this to Jimin. We had to pay for his tiny room content, which was a slap in the face to him and his fans, while Tae and Jk got to do huge free shows for fans. On one hand I could see how it works in Jikook's favor since they did kinda plan that trip/show during a romantic couple holiday and the fanservice narrative actually protects them as sucky as it is, but at the same time, it would be a slap to the face of their fans and pretty fucked up if they do it.

I don't know why people are acting surprised like didn't I say years ago they would promote jikook post solo as a unit brand??? Give em a show of their own and shit?

I've been waiting patiently for that.

I was actually thinking hybe sponsored Jikook in the Golden closet type of shows where the focus is on hust the two of them- they were their two top entertainers that reeled in the views and mula.

And let me not hear any one say its fan service- if it's fan service let your faves do some. Put them in front of a camera for just one hour and see if they won't bore you to do.

Whatever it is they do they do it so well. Better than any pair up in there.

Also, they won't put out content behind paid walls if they didn't think it would sell in numbers- and I mean they aim to turn a profit not just break even.

From a business standpoint, nothing is free. Fan math is thinking free means we got it for free. Free means, you are the money. Your clicks are being sold to the highest bidder💀

One way or the other hybe will always make back their money off of you. Either through ads or sponsored content- think product placement etc.

Some members have built their brand to the point they can now leverage it for money. Jimin is one of those members. He has fans willing to pay- huge sums might I add- just to see him.

Don't act like PJMs won't. We would raise funds and sponsor others to go see Park Jimin if we thought it was a numbers game let's not lie. I see yall

Then there's also the part where pay walls means filtering out the haters and non serious stans.

It sucks for his avid fans who genuinely fuck with him but have no money to pay and watch or even the technology or means through which they can make payments due to geographical restrictions.

It sucks.

It's pouring the baby out with the dirty water.

But it's a small prize to pay if the safety of the man is at stake.

It's giving fans only cos haters gonna hate.

Jikook may not be targeting the entire Fandom with every content they put out. And I think they would love to share some things with a few fans who genuinely appreciate their bond than to expose themselves to ridicule and scrutiny all for free 99.

Naa, if you're gonna hate on them pay them first🤭

And if you genuinely like them what does it matter?? You'll support them either way.

Small prize to pay no?

Let's not overthink this. Let's just enjoy this guys. It's gonna be fun and worth our while.

Also, their wedding won't pay for itself.

Hurry, flip your pockets 🔪