#hxh rant

[kamsspam]

Why do people associate being in a relationship as being weak? The main argument on tiktok is people shouldn't ship kurapika with anyone because it weakens his character. Kurapika is arguably one of the strongest main characters (mentally and physically) in the series and he still is when he's with his friends. Like having relationships does NOT make you weak, it makes you human. We rely on other people no matter how strong we are, and just because you look for anything in other people it doesn't make you weak or anything. Hell even the villians in HXH have relationships with others. Look at Mr.Killua can't have friends himself Illumi with Hisoka. Maybe its just bc of how people portray Kurapika in the fandom, but he's a strong complex character and is capable of having relationships and feelings too bro.

[nonbinarychair]

People who sexualize or simp for killua and gon are my absolute OPPS.

This is targeted to people who are 16 or over, mostly. Because no, it's not weird for someone younger than the actual character to let's say have a crush on them or something(sexualizing the characters is still VERY weird though, but people over 15 and 16 should know better than to sexualize characters that young)

People tend to forget that at the beginning of the series and manga, killua and gon are BOTH TWELVE YEARS OLD. despite their skill level; they are literal children.

At yeah, currently in the timeline, they're 14. But that is still VERY YOUNG !! there is absolutely no reason you should be calling 14 year olds hot when you're 16 or over👎

And trust me, killua would NOT want to date your ass if he was real. Neither would gon, most likely.

The Sexualization of the two overall is just extremely weird and gross, this honestly goes for A LOT of anime characters in that age range.

[silverhypnos]

Sorry, a little rant

This is a tiny bit of a rant, but I struggle so hard to be cordial with other HxH fans or fans of media in general who constantly need a "moral" reason to dislike or like any characters.

I dislike Hisoka because his pedophilic nature makes me uncomfortable and on principle, I just don't like pedo characters. But sometimes I dislike characters for non-moral reasons. And I rarely like a character for moral reasons. And I don't always feel like needing to justify that.

But I would meet people who treat disliking a character as a performative way to brand themselves as a moral person. Not only do they need a moral reason, but they get so angry when other people like morally corrupt characters. They would vocalize and question the morality of a person just for liking villains. And the worst part about it is that they are so flaky and hypocritical about it. I have met a person who went out of their way to shit on me for liking the spiders because "They are mass murderers" but they seem to love Chimera Ants. As if they didn't kill a bunch of people... "Killing innocent people is wrong" except it's okay when Killua did it.

The "excuse" is that he is a child from an abusive household, but something tells me if Killua was introduced as an adult, you'd have a different excuse. Now I'm not saying liking Killua is bad, he's a well-written character, and I want him to grow up happy like the rest of ya. Obviously, the reason why you don't care that Killua killed those randos for nothing is because they are nameless randos. Had those two been a person that the viewer had time to care about, some of you might care. When you care about a character, if a character hurts them, you might hate that character. Likewise, when your favorite character hurt someone, out comes with all of the excuses. This is nothing new, every fandom is like this. I don't have an issue with people not liking the Spiders. (I only have a pet peeve when they do the blame game of blaming Chrollo for all of the Spider's crime but not the whole Spiders.) I get that most people who hate the spiders are a big Kurapika fan. I also like Kurapika a lot, but I also like Spiders a lot too. So I just choose to suffer. Likewise, if you project yourself onto characters, you are more likely to defend that character's actions. When you project a person you don't like onto a character, you are more likely to hate that character to an absurd degree. You're going to headcanon that character in the worst way possible, even if they aren't guilty of the thing you've projected them to be. I can't speak for everyone, but I like well-written villains, and I don't believe in justifying a villain's actions. I like to see a villain develop, and I like to see how the author handles the villain's downfall. I don't like characters to performatively display my moral standings. I don't want to argue with people about why it's okay for me to like villains. But a lot of people who love to show off how moral they are through the media they watch instead of like, ya know, donating to causes, working at facilities that aid the homeless, etc... (And yes, not to humble brag but I've done those things) Some of y'all can be so difficult to be cordial with. It's one thing if the person started to directly harass you first, but y'all don't need to constantly seek out people you don't like just to start an argument on the internet. Ignore the type of fans you don't like, not every disagreement has to be some dick-measuring moral competition. It would be healthier for your headspace too, constantly being angry isn't going to do you any good. Take care of your health.

[cocogum]

HxH can make good movies but sucks at doing so.

I need to talk about the missed opportunity the hxh anime team could've had for the movies.

I learned very recently that the movies were made by using some rejected hxh novels as the basis for the plots, and unfortunately, they didn't do a great job of improving their original synopses. As a result, Kurapika's backstory was completely mishandled by tying it to a bizarre puppet nen user antagonist. Instead, what the hxh anime team should've done, was have turned Kurapika's backstory into a special OVA episode rather than linking it to this fever dream of a movie.

The second movie, on the other hand, almost confused some viewers by presenting a dark side of nen, WHEN NEN IS ALL ABOUT TURNING INTO WHATEVER THE NEN USER WANTS IT TO BE. I get that making hxh movies screams money, but the fact that none of them have an actual story without any plot holes annoys me to no end. That's what makes them forgettable. No amount of colorful animation or sick character design will make me think that these two movies were good.

Just like the video games, none of them got to really be appealing to me because of how the damn story had been built. I get that the main four are like the most popular group in hxh, but they could have at least made some genuinely nice movies all centered around prequels.

They could have been so creative about it, too! While other animes get to focus on the present, hxh could have had movies about the past and could have explored lots of other nice topics like the zoldyck family, the dark continent trio group (netero, zigg, linnet), the kurtas, the greed island group made by younger ging, etc. THERE IS LITERALLY SO MUCH POTENTIAL TO MAKE A GREAT MOVIE EVEN WITHOUT THE MAIN FOUR ALWAYS BEING THE FOCUS.

The movies don't have to be necessarily canon, they can just be really good and interesting pieces of media to look into while we're in hiatus right now.

And you know that the hxh team is capable of making good shit because look at how they made that one hxh mobile game about Greed Island. The trailer for it was so good that they legit made people think it was actually for a third movie when it was actually just a mobile game that you can't even play in english 💀

These guys really went all out for a GAME TRAILER 😭

[violettimeaya]

I'm so used to constantly for weeks brainwash myself with my Killua and Gon designs that the original one started to look like downgrade. Oh well, I always found those pants they waring ugly and Killua's shoes... Togashi what where u smoking there to ruin his design with those?

Yes i find them ugly, so ugly is iconic at this point - like lady's gaga meat dress kinda way. We have love hate relationship.

BUT KILLUA'S SHOES ARE UGLY.

[0asisbliss]

I feel most of the Phantom troupe wouldn’t try to “woo”, or date you when it comes to being soulmates like Feitan, Phinks, Nobunaga, Uvogin, Shizuku, Machi they would not try at all. These are the type that just wants to keep their nen. And in all honesty Chrollo.. hear me out. He would watch you at first, but as far as “dating” no. I do have a feeling Chrollo would enjoy your presence. He enjoys the soul ties that you two share. But the only members of the troupe that would even try to have that thought process of dating you are Pakunoda, Franklin, and POSSIBLY Shalnark. I feel like Shalnark would set cameras up in your home to “observe” you for a couple of weeks then he would try to talk to you in person about everything you enjoy doing from what he’s seen.

[dee3312t]

muruem and killua both on their knees begging palm to save their beloved komugi and gon. I just realized this parallel today and im unwell.

togashi created palm to facilitate the new themes of love and coming of age in the chimera ant arc. and created multiple parallels between the two pairs

[musicalmoritz]

The amazing thing about Leorio is that he is objectively a really good person, a shining example of morality in a manga that highlights human greed…but he is not the type of guy you’d expect to be a good person. That’s his whole bit, he presents himself as this really superficial dude at first and he comes off as really annoying, but when you look even slightly beneath the surface the guy has a heart of gold. And that is exactly where people go wrong with their characterization of him

Because, like, you have to balance all these qualities. The guy who was willing to throw the Hunger Exam to stop a child from fighting a dangerous opponent is the same guy who, in the same arc, intentionally lost a gamble and gave up 10 hours so he could touch a woman. He has a short temper and he makes quick assumptions about people and he’s led more by emotion than logic and he is perverted and he is prideful and frankly a little arrogant but he is also crazy protective of his friends and keeps a picture of them on his desk and he’s very emotional and eventually learns how to be honest and his entire moral code is founded upon the premise that no one should have to pay for medical treatment. Since Leorio isn’t as popular as the rest of the main 4, fans tend to lean too much into one side of his personality. Either he’s a useless idiot who wasted 50 of their hours or he is hopelessly kind and can do no wrong. And neither of these characterizations are correct

The impact of his character is that he represents morality whilst being completely ordinary. He isn’t aiming to be the strongest or the best at anything, he doesn’t have any revenge to seek or even a remarkably dark past (a sad past, definitely, but a realistic one). That’s why he’s bad at gambling and why he loses sight of important goals to settle smaller disagreements. He is so painfully normal, so flawed and simple and wanting to make a small change. He shows that the real heroes are ordinary people, people who choose to do good despite the corrupt world they live in. The majority of those people aren’t saints, they’re just average every day people

And so like. Yes let him be flawed. But those flaws are part of his goodness. They are part of what makes him unique. He’s supposed to be a little bit “boring” and that’s what makes him stand out. He cannot be reduced to one set of traits because that contrast of “sleazy guy with a heart of gold” is like. The entire bit. I fear that is the entire point. I feel like I should be saying this on TikTok since that’s where the majority of the crimes happen but last time I defended him on there they told me to zip his pants up. So I offer this to Tumblr instead. Please start observing my man more he gets done dirty by this fandom too often

[autisticraccon]

Okay, I usually rant about aot on this blog but I decided to do something different today since something about how the Hunter X Hunter fandom perceives a certain thing is pissing me off. Ok let me just start with this, Kurapika's fight with Uvogin really showed just how much more merciful Kurapika is than the Phantom Troupe. Many people boil down him bringing a shovel to a fight as just "a cold anime moment." But i saw it as something completely different. Let me ask you this, do you think the Phantom Troupe buried the Kurta Clans bodies after mercilessly killing them? Of course not. But Kurapika chose to show that much respect to Uvogin. It just shows how truly different Kurapika is from the Phantom Troupe, and despite the atrocities they committed he was still willing to respect Uvogin like the Troupe failed to do with the Kurta's.

[nynyhaha]

Spider Themes: The illusion of false gods or why the Spider is problematic regardless of morality

Can a cause be worth dying for? Or is it the sacrifice for the sake of something that proves the thing valuable?

There’s two ways to look at the members of the Phantom Troupe, by looking at the things they do to other people,and at the things they do to themselves and each other.

Seeing how much they identify with the Spider,we can throw the theory of them just being selfish psychopaths out of the windows. Neither do they seem manic or crazy,and yet..in a way they remind us of a cult. Besides that,I’ve also found them to have qualities or the following: rebels,revolutionaries,soldiers,robinhoods,martyrs.

Despite committing so much undeniable evil,and despite them never really saying it,there’s clearly a greater good involved. This idea of something bigger is exactly what the story is subverting,and seemingly critiquing. Or is it?

It might be what makes those characters so captivating and interesting-their unquestioning devotion to the entity that is more than just the sum of themselves,what they live trough and die for - The Spider. Why would the proof of criminals like them having principles and loyalty to something be a problem? In a weird way, the Spider has an almost redeeming function - after all it’s a reason and a potential excuse for all their horrible actions. At the same time,isn’t that what makes it a bad thing? If all those people are killing because of that one cause,isn’t it what turned them into who they are now? Isn’t it what makes them do all this evil? “I wouldn’t kill for something that requires murder.” typa issue is what we got here.

The Spider as The Cause

Whether the Spider’s existence itself is what’s most important or if it is still fulfilling a purpose like it did when it was created is up for debate,in fact it’s implied that this is exactly what causes Chrollo to feel lost and unable to understand his own motives. Another reason is that rather than standing for A cause,it merely stands for THE CAUSE,much like how “god” can stand for whatever a person cares about most.

We might wonder endlessly for what reasons exactly the Spiders are doing all of that,and while there are tangible reasons given in their backstory,they work just as well to represent people who are dedicating themselves to whatever,emphasis on dedication. Regardless of specific goals,there will be sacrifices,suffering and pain following whoever cares about anything too much.

The Spider as A Team

Besides loyalty to an idea or principle,there’s also one towards one’s group,regardless of that group’s purpose or function. Without knowing anything at all about motives,backstories,aims,etc we can still see how seriously the members take it. It’s definitely a friend group,one that can’t afford to be a found family,even if that’s what they might be naturally gravitating towards.

The group or team as the greater good is even more fundamental than any additional purpose of said group,as it stays even when the purpose changes. In that regard the Spider is like any other gang,it’s in- vs outrgoup,a small team of partners in crime vs the world.

This “one for all,all for one” dynamic could exist outside of any broader context,even if since the start the Spider was meant as an opportunity for personal fulfilment (as we know now,it was quite the opposite)

The issue comes up when seeing how much the Spider setup hurts its members (as I discussed in the post about their utilitarian approach)

Since the Spider is a villain group,it’s no wonder it’s damaging to the people involved - why would it even be good for their mental health to kill that many people? Of course they’d make enemies and eventually die because of their dangerous lifestyle. But what would really change if they never walked down the path of darkness?

Beyond Morality

Had the Troupe managed to end up as not villains but heroes,would they risk their lives any less? Could they make a bigger change? Would the dynamics within the Spider even change,if it was a more benevolent organisation? Probably not,as there would still be a goal to achieve at any cost and a collective that’s worth more than the individual. Given that it’s taken seriously enough,none of the members would avoid “giving up their lives” anyway. No,they have to give everything up for something,and there we go again.

It’s tragic that Chrollo deemed it necessary to become a villain of all things,but had he decided to protect Meter City in a less brutal way,he would’ve still lost himself in this mission and Pakunoda would’ve followed him,all while vowing to never touch him and never see inside his soul💔🥀

The other side of the coin

^from the 1999 version yorknew opening

Of course it’s the people closest to one that are meant here(I think the song is talking both to Kurapika and Chrollo telling them to value their friends over their cause)

This theme runs all through hxh,it’s present from the very start as characters on a dangerous journey have to constantly chose between reaching their goal or prioritising the safety of themselves and the people around them.

Gon and Killua’s friendship and the fun they have together >> finding Ging

Meruem spending time with Komugi >> grand plans of world domination

Bonds between individual Spiders >> The entity that is the Spider

It’s as if the series is saying “purpose and happiness lies in the here and now,not in what is grand and unreachable”

Another thing supporting this interpretation is this panel from the chimera ant arc:

The tragedy stems from human inability to “just live”,instead we require a greater narrative. It’s neither virtuous nor selfish to devote one’s life to some unreachable goal or mission, but it’s shown as irresistible,as the only way to cope with extreme circumstances.

I wouldn’t say that Togashi is outright condemning hunters,Spiders and assassins in their pursuit of meaning through extreme means, but there is shown to be great harm resulting from that.

Everyone is chasing something,and there’s really no other choice. As much as we want to determine whether the cause is worthy or not (yes because outsiders shouldn’t get away with kidnapping Meteor City’s children,no because it’s no longer about that) the actual reason the Troupe exists is because none of those kids could continue their normal life as voice actors,instead starting a life of a way different format.

There’s technically nothing stopping anyone from just “retiring” in favour of peace and quiet, but in the case of the Spiders especially that’s not even an option,it will never be enough for them.

Chrollo and his friends couldn’t have continued to live normally back then,let alone do that now,but wouldn’t it be nice?

[tiedsuccubus]

“Im sick of an overpowered y/n so I’m gonna make her realistic with good growth 🤓👆🏾” but whole time the y/n is just pitifully weak and stays weak for like a good 80% of the story, then suddenly pops out with a random power up.

Ts be annoying me so bad. The power genuinely be so interesting and very promising, but they make her weaker than the fucking scene fillers. I understand not wanting a Mary sue ass character/ wanting the character to be op at beginning but DAMN.

Why can’t people make a character that actually has good steady growth.

[dilfartist]

I wanna write for Chrollo so bad but he's so smart and sophisticated that I'm scarred I won't write him well, especially his diouloge. I have so many ideas, so little brain.

[ninetiesblondes]

saw someone joke about leorio having a shoulder kink because of the official art where he's always touching kurapika's shoulders and i haven't been able to stop thinking about it. please tell me. where is it. where is the content for this? because this is an immaculate headcanon and i'm mad i didn't think of it myself.

[cocogum]

What's up with Togashi's use of Noko???

Does anyone know why, out of all the characters Togashi chose to draw in a special occasion for the Hunter Exam arc, Noko's the one who looks so out of place?

The last time I checked, her name and presence weren’t even fully introduced in that arc until after the Heaven's Arena arc, where Gon mentions her name. Yet even then, she doesn't have a proper design and remains a blurred, half-hearted doodle. Am I missing something here?

You might have seen this page in Togashi's twitter. It features almost everyone who played a role in the Hunter Exam arc, especially those who had speaking parts. We see the main four, Hisoka, Tonpa, some of the Hunter Examiners, Kite, Mito, the Kirikos, Hanzo, Ponzu, Pokkle, and even some Hunter applicants like the Amori brothers, Bourbon (the man with the snakes), and Nicholas (the little man with the computer), along with Kon, Gon’s fox bear friend.

All of them had distinct roles in the Hunter Exam arc, regardless of how big or small. Yet Noko is included too?

Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against Noko. In fact, I believe she has a lot of potential if Togashi chooses to develop her in some way, especially while Gon is still on Whale Island. It would finally give us a chance to learn more about the ONLY OTHER KID ON THAT ISLAND. This fact has always bothered me. How can Togashi introduce such a random detail and expect us not to question it? Did he really think mentioning that there’s only one other kid would go unnoticed? I mean, sure, it's an island, but it's absurd to consider.

This makes me wonder even more about her. How did she cope being the only kid on that island while Gon was away?

I don't know about you, but if I was her, I would've been so bored out of my mind. My insecurity would've skyrocketed out of the roof.

Like Gon, she's homeschooled too. What were their hangouts like? Gon did mention once that he would make pinky promises with her (along with Mito too).

Seriously Togashi, what the hell's going on?!

He confuses me so much sometimes. He barely acknowledges her, and yet when he does bring her up, it’s just in small mentions or casual facts, like her being the only kid there.

And now he put her in the arc where she wasn't even there!?? Yeah, okay, she only appeared three times while watching Gon go on the boat. But again, she barely did anything and it took us two more arcs to understand that she was even there thanks to Gon telling us that she lives here too.

Her presence in the special drawing on twitter just looks out of place.

She's also the only one not showing her face. That one panel where it is noticeable doesn't count because it's literally just two dots and a line. We already know she has braids though. But what's new here is that she's sitting on Kon's shoulder. Kon has always been seen with Gon. Did Noko know about Gon being friends with Kon?? How would she know this?? She's holding onto Kon in a way we haven't even seen Gon do. Does she miss Gon which is why she hangs onto Kon in this image? I wouldn't blame her acting this way if I knew I was left alone while the other kid who lives on the same island left.

Like...does togashi care about her character or not?? Because her background, despite not being mentioned enough, is very interesting and the way she clings onto Kon is odd too not to mention that Kon is fine with that?? I know that this tweet he made a while ago isn't canon but you can't tell me that you're not wondering why he added Noko and portrayed her this way.

Am I the only one bothered by how she's being shown here??

Like come on someone else must've noticed how out of place she looks here too by now!

Yeah, I've seen Togashi's ending D thing, but her presence and role in it still sucks A LOT. Judging by how it looked, to me, it sounded like Togashi was using Noko as some sort of scapegoat just to seal an ending, and I hated that. To be fair, he hasn't given any details about Noko's character, but based on the fact that we still don't know anything about her, her role in that ending pissed me off. Togashi could've simply extended the small break between Heavens Arena and Yorknew City arc so that she could've had a proper appearance but nooooo he only used that small break to explain how Ging's cassette worked and have Gon literally tell Killua that she's the other kid here WITHOUT HAVING HER GO TO GON AND FEEL RELIEVED THAT THE OTHER KID ON THE ISLAND CAME BACK.

So which is it? Is she important or not?

It's too bad and weird that she's the only one being treated this way.

She contributed to one ending and yet she doesn't even have a face.

[nartml]

every time someone calls gon a monster, an angel loses his wings and i get one step closer to manslaughter

[uvonobu]

People in this fandom sure do love to blame every single thing on women everything has to be bisky’s fault everything has to be Alluka’s fault everything has to be Kikyo’s fault everything has to be Mito’s fault I can’t take it anymore

I never see anyone holding Silva or Zeno to the same standards as they hold Kikyo to. I never see ANYONE acknowledge that the only reason Bisky asked Gon and Killua to separate is because she genuinely cared about their safety and she wanted to push them to be stronger. In the state Killua was in with the needle he WOULD have left in an uncertain situation, even though that’s no fault of his own. She was looking out for them, she wasn’t being malicious. She had no way of knowing there was genuinely a needle preventing him from facing stronger opponents, how is that her fault? In the end, they would have separated either way, since their goals were much too different. And yes, Mito made Ging give Gon up, but I fail to see how that’s a bad thing. The daily life of a hunter like Ging is MUCH too dangerous for a small and fragile child. Did you guys see him climbing all those magical beasts? You think that’s a good place to take a little kid? It’s not like he’ll be able to find a baby sitter every day. A life of stability and love with your aunt is better than a life of danger and uncertainty with your biological father. And I don’t even have to defend Alluka because anyone blaming her is too dumb to even read this far in.