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hollowed-theory-hall · 4 months ago
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Hey, just a thought I've had about Fleur and Veela in general that's been floating in my head, and I thought you might appreciate it; I don't think Veela have hybrid offspring. Unless they reproduce asexually, there are male Veela, or two female Veela can produce an offspring, than all Veela have a non-Veela parent. The books don't really give Veela much attention, so all of that is certainly possible, but I like to consider other possibilities. We never see Fleur describe herself as quarter-Veela, correct me if I'm wrong, but it was only ever other charcters saying she was rumored to be quarter-Veela. This may be a rumor spread by Fleur's family: non-wizards aren't allowed to carry wands, at least in Britain, treating her like a witch with Veela ancestory would improve how she was treated immensely. I mean, like how parents with black hair and blonde hair wouldn't really have a child with both their hair colors. It's be whichever one is dominant. I consider Veela to be the dominant trait. Maybe all daughters are Veela, and sons non-Veela. Essentially, there is no thing as a pure Veela, or maybe, all Veela give birth to pure Veelas, and claiming a partial inheritance gives them better rights in the wizarding world. Just my headcanon I guess.
I'm not sure about that... Like, my knee-jerk reaction is that there is a difference between part-Veela and ful-Veela.
Like, the main reason I say that is that Harry has a different reaction to full-Veelas than to Fleur (and even her mother who should be a hlaf-Veela):
Looking careworn, she [Fleur] left the room. Ron still seemed slightly punch-drunk; he was shaking his head experimentally like a dog trying to rid its ears of water. “Don’t you get used to her if she’s staying in the same house?” Harry asked. “Well, you do,” said Ron, “but if she jumps out at you unexpectedly, like then . . .”
(HBP, 93)
Harry has no reaction to Fleur's Veela magic. None. Even though others do react to them. Same with Fleur's mother who Harry notes is beautiful, but he isn't reacting to the magic:
Mr. Weasley, who appeared at the gate moments later, laden with luggage and leading a beautiful blonde woman in long, leaf-green robes, who could only be Fleur’s mother.
(DH, 107)
I think that is because he's gay (or at least not interested in women). But even he still reacts to the magic of full-Veela:
But a hundred veela were now gliding out onto the field, and Harry’s question was answered for him. Veela were women . . . the most beautiful women Harry had ever seen . . . except that they weren’t — they couldn’t be — human. This puzzled Harry for a moment while he tried to guess what exactly they could be; what could make their skin shine moon-bright like that, or their white-gold hair fan out behind them without wind . . . but then the music started, and Harry stopped worrying about them not being human — in fact, he stopped worrying about anything at all. [...] And as the veela danced faster and faster, wild, half-formed thoughts started chasing through Harry’s dazed mind. He wanted to do something very impressive, right now. Jumping from the box into the stadium seemed a good idea . . . but would it be good enough? “Harry, what are you doing?” said Hermione’s voice from a long way off. The music stopped. Harry blinked. He was standing up, and one of his legs was resting on the wall of the box. Next to him, Ron was frozen in an attitude that looked as though he were about to dive from a springboard.
(GoF, 103)
Similarly, the full-Veela in the Quidditch World Cup have abilities Fleur doesn't seem to have:
At this, the veela lost control. Instead of dancing, they launched themselves across the field and began throwing what seemed to be handfuls of fire at the leprechauns. Watching through his Omnioculars, Harry saw that they didn’t look remotely beautiful now. On the contrary, their faces were elongating into sharp, cruel-beaked bird heads, and long, scaly wings were bursting from their shoulders —
(GoF, 111)
Additionally, the fact that Veela can get pregnant and reproduce with humans kind of erases the option of asexual reproduction. Yeah, I know they're magic, but if they didn't need to get pregnant the regular human way for the continuation of their species, they wouldn't be capable of it (especially as the Harry Potter version of Veela aren't immortal like their folklore variants). So, that brings us to the lack of male Veela.
You are right that male Veela are pretty necessary to have a difference between full-Veelas and part-Veelas. While the Harry Potter books don't really give an answer regarding Veela reproduction, I went to the mythology JKR based on them.
"Veela" is an Anglicized form of the name "Vila" which is a fairy-like spirit from Slavic folklore portrayed as a nature spirit like nymphs in Greek Mythology. Both nymphs and Vila are portrayed as only women, but they are also portrayed as minor deities, as immortal and eternal like the nature they represent with abilities the Harry Potter Veela do not have. Veela very in mythology quite a bit but they tend to be shapeshifters often living in a water source. Regardless, they are only female in myth as well and I couldn't find anything about their births. I found one source that claimed a child of a Veela and a human man would be a half-Veela but it didn't discuss how full Veela came into being. Since the mythology Veela are immortal spirits of nature they are born out of trees and rivers, representing nature itself. So, unless this is the case in Harry Potter (I don't think it fits the worldbuilding much) this front didn't give us answers.
So, I went to Bill and Fleur's wedding to see if I could spot a potential male Veela or male part Veela. And the answer is I couldn't. It also seems like all part-Veela share the same hair, eyes, skin color, and general appearance regardless of who the father is, so you are right about the Veela gens being the more dominant ones (Fleur and Gabrielle are both described with silvery blond Veela hair like their mother, even though their father has black hair and is described as plump).
So, yeah, speaking of the info we have in canon it's actually possible part-Veela don't really exist and that Veela can just choose to activate their charming magic in a more active way (that affects Harry, like in the Quidditch World Cup) or not and remain with just their passive charm (that doesn't affect Harry). But this doesn't really give an answer to the extra abilities full-Veela seem to have that part-Veela don't.
Another issue I have with this theory is that if Veela were indeed born this way for centuries, there is no way anyone would believe Fleur is a quarter-Veela. I mean, wizards are dense often enough, but I don't think they are that stupid. They would know how Veela reproduce and then not believe said rumors.
I think JKR just didn't think through all the implications of how she portrayed Veela...
Point is, your headcanon is possible, and you can headcanon it but I personally prefer to think of Fleur as a quarter-Veela and believe male Veela do exist. Because they do sorta exist in myth.
There are Näcken from German and Scandinavian folklore that are shapeshifting water spirits that are portrayed as handsome men, they occasionally lure people to their deaths and occasionally fall in love with human women and go live with them. The Näcken in Scandinavian folklore are always portrayed as male. In German mythology Nixie or Nixe can be either male or female from what I read. So, male Veela could exist and just potentially be known by a different name with slightly different abilities.
I mean, the Veela in Harry Potter attract people with dancing and music, the Näcken plays the violin to lure people to drown. Both are shapeshifters that are spirits of nature (Veela in various locations: forests, air, and water while the Näcken are only associated with water). Both are sometimes malevolent and sometimes helpful to humans. There are a lot of similarities so I like to headcanon them as sorta of the same species but with different typical appearance and name, hence the confusion.
So in a sense, there are no full-Veela males, but the other similar creatures, Näcken. Now, I'm not sure if half-Veela and half-Näcken would be the same or different, but that's a whole other discussion and goes more heavily into my headcanons.
I can't speak to what JKR intended, but your headcanon is possible. I just prefer to imagine "male Veela" and "male part-Veela" are out there somewhere (the quotation marks because they use a name that isn't Veela, the full ones at least).
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tom-riddle-in-the-middle · 8 years ago
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Why the houses would sell their soul
Hufflepuff: They would sell their soul to live as long as their friends. Hufflepuffs would want nothing more than to stay with their friends until the end.
Gryffindor: They would sell their soul to save their friends. It's cliche I know, but a Gryffindor would do anything for their friends and more.
Ravenclaw: They would sell their soul because they want to change the world. Ravenclaws would sell their soul and gain the knowledge to cure cancer or the ability to establish world peace. They would do anything to create what they believe in.
Slytherin: They would sell their soul to be remembered. They would sell their soul in order to make something of themselves. Sytherins would build their way up with the opportunities given to them by selling their soul. They would have peace knowing that no one would forget them.
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wildestschemmentis · 6 years ago
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I never realized you are a hardcore HP fan. I love ur wynonna earp headcanons, do you have any good headc abt HP?
Oh i will die loving this saga despise the fact J.K Rowling went the way she went. uh i do have a lot, mostly of romione and their kids but i’ll try to talk about everyone.
- Hogwarts changed so much that now the hufflepuffs are the bullies - there’s a lot of places in hogwarts with the names ‘’potter’’, ‘’weasley’’ and ‘’granger’’ in it and the next gen cringes at it but they feel very proud of what they did- victoire and teddy started dating in their sixth year bc of a slugh party (teddy doesn’t care about genders at all)
- contrary to the popular belief in the fandom i dont picture rose as being bookworm like hermione, no, she is very much like ron, she eats all the time, swears all the time (’’Honestly, Rose, i will ground you until you are 21 years old if you ever talk like this!’’ says Hermione on day), and she is good at quidditch, makes into the team as a chaser on their third year.
- Hugo is gay. The entire family is okay with this and Ron who is a very teddy bear and protective father is like ‘’alrite but no man is good for my son’’. Hugo is the male version of Hermione, always anxious about homework and trying to follow the rules but he has fun when everyone hangs out at hogsmeade. he is ravenclaw and has a crush on the captain of their quidditch team. 
- Ron still works in the shop with George and since now is canon that Hermione becomes the Minister, he is the granger-weasley residence a lot more and loves to cook. Word gets around and one day they are at Hogwarts and a Hufflepuff says Ron wears the panties in the family to get into Rosie’s head (she has a temper), Ron doesn’t understand it and when Hermione explains it to him he just laughs and says ‘’you bet you ass i am laddie’’.
- Romione are so in love it hurts and Rose, who is very into tv shows, compares them to Peralta and Amy all the time. 
- Harry and Ginny are living in Godric’s Hollow now and he rebuilted the Potters house but no one lives in there.
- James is as bad with girls and Harry was and Ginny makes fun of them all the time, Lily is also a Ravenclaw and it’s on the quidditch as well, Albus doesn’t like quidditch but is good at defense against the dark arts, specially when Harry retires from being an auror and starts to teach at Hogwarts.
- Arthur and Molly bought a lot of houses in ottery st. catchpole and all the Weasleys live in there in a lot of Burrows of their own.
- Fred II follows the rules as much as Hugo and his father is kinda sad about it but in the other hand Percy’s kid are the new troublemakers.
- Astoria, Hermione and Ginny are always having a girls night out bc why the fuck not.
- Someday the daily prophet notices that Ron and Harry are a couple and Rose compares it with Frankie and Gracie, it becomes a recurring joke in family reunions.
- Draco still doesnt get along with them all but it’s okay with Scorpio and Rose dating. Ron, on other hand, is still protective and Hermione too, but she pretends she’s okay with it so Rose can confide on her. 
- The Grangers are a huge part of everyone lifes now. Hermione doesn’t rule them out since Australia, they know everything about the wizarding world and they even were allowed to watch Rose playing a match one day at Hogwarts.
- Also, Hermione is Hermione J. Granger Weasley now, she keeps all the names and Ron changes it when they renew their vows cuz Rose told him about Beyoncve and Jay-Z
- Everyone calls Harry the Uncle Who Lived
- Rose and Scorpio only get alonge after their fourth year. 
- You know who else is gay? Charlie. When Hugo comes out, also in the fourth year of Hogwarts, he gathers the courage to talk about it with his family, but he marries a muggle and Arthur couldn’t be happier.
- I like to think Lily is bissexual bc i had a lot of bi vibes from Ginny
- Hermione is very KinkyTM and teached a lot. I MEAN A LOT of stuff to Ron. She keeps her hogwarts uniform, he keeps his quidditch one.
- Theres a ball at hogwarts on their fifth year and James ask Lavander’s daughter out, she’s as needy as Lav-Lav was and everyone makes fun of him about it, Ron is the only one who gets it and its like ‘’dude. don’t let her give you a necklace’’. 
- There’s a room in the granger-weasley residence full of books for Hermione (and Hugo of course), it was Ron who builded it with the help of Harry.
- When the trio fights someone always ask if they are broking up (’’I should be so lucky, says Ginny, who started the joke)
- Albus is assexual and has a owl who looks exactly like Hedwig
- At some point of her early teenage years rose wants to be an youtuber (’’You can’t, people do magic all the time in this house, i am the Minister Of Magic, for god’s sake! says Hermione) 
- Ron is bad with technology and so is Harry 
anyway i could go on forever about this
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