#hmm expect this (thread? idk) to be added with more stuff

[xero013]

Look at these three, definitely not troublemakers for sure.

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(Cringe 2022 vers.)

[youve-doomed-us-all-jerk]

and finished it ,got dat true ending yes def had a great time on the game 8/10 (but yeah performance def docked some points as well as some writing threads that felt kinda dropped, but am trying to in good faith piece it together in me mind so just gonna ramble spoilers under the cut:

when people said this is what they wanted the original DD to be i can see that but like i feel like the lead up to the game kept hearing people who know more about the originals history talk about how "40-60% of the original vision was cut down" from dd1 and i feel like my brain unfortunately interpreted that as "oh cool so were gonna have 100 new vocations like the monk and 100 monsters and the parallel worlds(technically true☝🏽🤓) and the moon stuff, neat" thats on me lmao but yeah removing those expectations and seeing it for what it is, its def the spirit of the the first game but its systems deeper and more fleshed out not good at all the techny terms but im not very into or good at action games but this one made me want to be cuz the combat was fun haha hmm writing wise there was a point where i felt like everything just suddenly got dropped once the godbane stuff started happening and youre suddenly barreling to the ending while everything else just wasnt important anymore lmao, but trying to interpret the story as a story the pathfinder is weaving, i think its meant to feel like that cuz we see the pathfinder essentially write us out of problems, give us a griffin to escape slavery, gives us a clue to where were supposed to go and the big one he like straight up changes ambrosius mind about giving us the godsbane when it wouldnt make sense for him too, the old man by harve even alludes to this by saying the real world is much messier when hes telling you about how fake everything is, like the watcher said everyone there is there to play a part in a tale hes laid out and i think he wanted to get to the ending faster. It's definitely another layer they added from the first games cycle, but do wish if that is what theyre going for(and if im not delusional lmao) that they did more like the ambrosius thing just watching as he ass pulls us out of dead ends making us feel what rothais felt when he realized all his feats and hardships didnt matter, also just would have liked more sidequests with fun characters lmao.

Also did enjoy the endings of the 3 major peoples in the unmoored world and felt like their side quests really fleshed them out and led them there to their endings well,mostly, very cool idea to bring it all together like that. elves wanted to stay isolated but they needed outside influence to break tradition, to save their tree and how it all built to them agreeing to seek refuge with the other races rather than die with their way of life. Ironic that disa was half right about sven needing to inherit the throne but ofc she was also half wrong cuz she a tyrant and wants him to have it mainly cuz of blood, but he deserves it cuz his sidequests were about him getting to know the common folk and becoming self assured lmao battahl tbh full disclosure i messed up the queen nadias sidequest to the rose chateau, tried to scare the dick head shopkeeper into giving me the medicine for the beastren and got arrested so idk how that one ends(will find out in NG+ lmao) but based on the ones i did do, it seems like the nations whole thing was about always being in conflict with each other and how the unmoored quests there are about making people put there differences aside and band together, including the arisen teaming with phaesus. Also like the irony of their view on pawns being right at first but by the end of the game they end up being wrong. but yeah do feel like they didnt get into that more, along with what the lambent flame is? (googled that there was lore texts you can find that explain how an earlier emperor is deceiving the people about it and what it really does) they also dont go into the fact vermund was a nation of beastren, started by a beastren and then history was wiped?? and how theres vermundians fear of beastren and human children always look like beastren and yet wilhelmina is a direct contradiction of this?? that seemed like a really juicy plot point but they didnt really do anything with it. and lastly idek where to start with the pawn and arisen ending, found out theres slight differences in the affinity ending (got the high affinity one cuz reds my my gurl i always revive run straight to her to revive her🤗) but watching them talk about how happy they are to have their own will while saying theyd still do anything for you filled me with something, dont even know what but was crazy.

oh also before i forget another way its in the spirit of the first game for me is just like in the original i also forgot to talk to the person i was romancing and giving them flowers before the endings and got diff people appearing there just like my first playthru of the dd1 lmfao( got manela with grigori and sara in the true ending, was going for ulrika this playthru lmfao) def gonna NG+, maybe do a magic archer and get the stuff i missed and try and get the other endings. Also hoping for another expansion/dlc like they did with dd1 down the line with more vocations and monsters.

[bestfluteninja]

alright. movie finished. thoughts!

i know it was already a nearly two-hour movie, but i still wish they hadn’t cut a lot of the stuff they did. i think it was a decent movie, and it worked well within itself, but as an adaptation of a book it definitely veered off in a lot of ways.

specifically:

- i understand you have to cut stuff when you make a movie adaptation of a book. i know this. but i really didn’t like cutting the entire character of june. she’s truly so important in the book, and the movie is structured in such a way that you wouldn’t miss her character if you’d never read the book, but i think it makes alex a different character. he’s no longer a little brother, and he no longer has that support system in june. it also definitely alters the family dynamics to make him an only child.

- speaking of family dynamics: i was confused for a long time about if oscar and ellen were divorced or not, and i didn’t like that they were still together. once again: it alters their characters. it alters alex’s character. it takes away a lot of their nuances. i honestly don’t think it would’ve been too hard to keep them divorced. genuinely it would’ve been like three extra lines of dialogue and such. i was just really not a fan of that decision

- since june was gone, it reduced nora’s screen time, i think. june-alex-nora are such a trio in the book, and again i know the movie can’t be as long and completely faithful, and obv a rom com is gonna focus mainly on the romantic pairing, but still: it takes away alex’s nuances!! it makes him a more stripped-down character, because he has fewer relationships and important people.

- and also about alex’s character: he’s in class, like, once, in the movie, and they completely skipped his graduation. and he’s just completely still all in on going into politics. and i don’t like that! it’s a big part of his arc in the book that he realizes he can help people in other ways, that he doesn’t have to burn himself out, that he’s allowed to go slower and think about what he really wants rather than what he expects to want, and it’s just completely absent from the movie

- WHERE IS RAFAEL LUNA :(((((

- okay for real. i get they had to cut things i KNOW that but like. they added in the fuckin politico reporter, who was just Weird to me on all levels, i didn’t like his addition to the story and his plot thread felt unresolved to me, and they totally got rid of raf? and totally got rid of richards setting up alex and henry? the movie never addresses the question of who hacked and leaked the emails, and i think it goes by fast enough that it can get away with that, but i think it’s lacking something for that

- they didn’t show the emails on screen nearly enough. i know the time is limited. i know that. but you can’t make them be such a big deal as a plot point and only have one little scene of one of the most well-known emails. like. come on. please.

- where is catherine :( i get why they cut her but i wish they hadn’t :( i know she’s only in one scene but she’s Really Fucking Important in that scene, and really important to henry, and that’s just…gone

- literally WHY did they make bea henry’s younger sister rather than older. it didn’t add anything, it detracted if anything, and it just like. doesn’t make sense to me at all

i’ve got more thoughts that are less coherent so perhaps i’ll add to this again later but just like. hmm. it was a decent movie, yeah, but it was definitely “based on” the book and not “faithful to” the book? idk. idk. i think i’m just overly fond of the book and so unless they replicated it 100% faithfully i was never gonna be totally satisfied with the movie. but i still think they could’ve made some better choices in some smaller (and larger) ways that would’ve made the movie better

about halfway through the rwrb movie and i have Many thoughts already