#hiveswap fan troll

[relaxxattack]

okay so i don't want to particularly call out these kinds of headcanons as bad. but they highlight a specific fandom trend ive seen for ages so here goes:

the extended zodiac is not alternian canon, nor zodiac.

i know that's brash for a lighthearted official personality quiz. but i've seen this zodiac presented frequently as the End All of trollsigns -- even claims that all trolls MUST derive from these 288. this is a complete misrepresentation of original canon.

first, obviously, the notion that your personality is determined by your caste is literally just what troll racism is, so the canocity of this test claims racism as truth. second of all, the traits are not even accurate to the trolls we DO see in canon- they're pulled from western zodiac.

the zodiac's also determined by lunar sway; nonsense because alternian trolls don't have lunar sway. it's a "moon a sburb player dreams on", and none of these trolls are sburb players. (i also feel like this should go for aspects, though that is a more controversial opinion)

so yeah, the extended zodiac is inaccurate and purely just fandom sburb personality-type nonsense. but does that really make it noncanon? plenty of stuff on alternia is nonsense.

except... homestuck trolls don't believe that signs are a zodiac that determine their personality.

not only is the idea of signs being related to some sort of personality zodiac never once mentioned by a troll, but the signs are frequently tied to other things that have nothing to do with personality. kanaya equivalents trollsigns to signatures, and later vriska explains the concept to john as being similar to a family crest, bemoaning that trolls have to do much more searching for clues or their ancestry than humans do. cronus also refers to his sign as his signature.

virska does use the phrasing that trolls who have the same sign "have a lot in common", but she also does this explicitly in the context of explaining to john how troll ancestry works, as hussie further notes in the commentary of that page that signs are included in physical/genetic characteristics trolls look to for ancestry clues. even hiveswap, which wants you to believe in the zodiac, concludes that signs are specific to troll surnames and that there are signs outside of it. multiple trolls in homestuck have signs that do not appear in the extended zodiac.

the extended zodiac quiz ≠ the alternian sign alphabet.

alternians wouldn't know what aspects or lunar sways are, nor have personalities equivilant to their signs (feferi and meenah are right there). deciding that trollsigns = personality test is a purely human concept that comes from our western zodiac.

but you know what alternians DO have?

THEY HAD THEIR OWN FUCKING CONSTELLATIONS AND ZODIAC. FROM THEIR OWN CREATORS. THIS WHOLE TIME.

where are the headcanons about troll's placements on THAT zodiac?

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footwork jumpstyllee i HAD to animate xeffy doing this…:

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taking the month before it's over I wanted to show these two guys of chaos [^]u[^]

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Extended Hemospectrum (not accounting for mutantbloods)

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I'm aware I'm not the first person to do this but since it was relevant for something me and my friend made I thought I would share it :,) Please do feel free to use it or base things off of it etc etc LOL

Anyway, so like I said the idea of an extended list isn't new however the one that I made operates off the assumption that your aspect is what determines your actual blood color and it's not arbitrary; so the higher up your aspect is on the list (spanning from time on the lowest end and life on the highest), the closer your blood colour will be to whatever the next caste is; starting with red and ending with fuchsia of course because they are the first and last colour on the hemospectrum.

As you go higher up the hemospectrum it becomes less of a continuation (see the difference between rust transitioning smoothly into bronze VS indigo having lighter shades than cerulean at the very beginning). I based the colour order around the true zodiac signs, therefore making each aspect's lightness or darkness relative to whatever their "root aspect" would be instead of one clean continuous line. Now you can guess someone's aspect based off the colour of their blood relative to the real world zodiac, hoo-ray.

Why did I pick to make the colour relative to whatever the true sign is? That's because I pulled the colours from the main troll kids, who as we all know are our real world zodiac representatives. Going off the assumption it's not arbitrary and aspect based like I said, that'd mean that a spectrum of colours in a caste revolve around those colours since we aren't shown any variation otherwise (with the exception of Gamzee, but that doesn't count here LMFAO).

Lunar sway, thank fucking god, has no relevance to colour because that would be too much work. This chart accounts for aspect only. If there's any difference it's not perceptible to enough people to make me compelled to add it—so feel free to add that yourself though

Anyway, there's my YAP SEEEESH just wanted to share because I spent too much time on this stupid fucking thing to not be annoying about it

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I just realized I completely forgot to post this panel edit.

[mrthful]

your fantrolls are the shit, the designs are so on point. I want to squeeze them

tbhhh i just scribble stuff on a canvas till it looks good LMAO

using this as an excuse to post more of my trollsona.. heres sum xtras

[otagoshi]

FINISHED, I FINISHED MAKING THE RUSTBLOODS

damn it took me longer than I imagined

i hope I haven't forgotten anyone else or else I'm going to cry

[homestuck-hell]

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