#hi cccc fandom how is it going

[moonchemistry]

relistening to tma and was reminded of my TMA HMS designs! messy doodles i did in class last year

[if-you-soul]

Mischaracterization in the CCCC fandom: a yapsesh (alternative title: Erm... What the Gore is Going On?)

Hi. Woaw. I'm actually making that post I talked about.

So. One thing I've noticed in the CCCC fandom is this weird fixation on gore, torture, violence, etc. Usually a level of graphic content that makes your average horror flick look... pretty tame!

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy horror! I even think a horror story based around psychological conflict similar to CCCC could work well!

But is it just me, or has this fandom COMPLETELY lost track of what the characters are like in the source material?

Like. Let's be real. Nowhere in the album does Soul do gruesome surgeries on Mind, nowhere does Mind go ripping people to shreds like Doomguy, et cetera. The closest thing we have to an implication of violence is what most of us call the "Juno incident"- as even "tines stabbed through eyes" is clearly a metaphor with the next line: "that the sides have condemned."

Im gonna talk ab the characters themselves under the cut

I feel the biggest victim of this mischaracterization is Soul. In the album he's... kind of a victim, really. He toughs out being dismissed and fought over and pushed aside and outright dehumanized for so, so long. Are we seriously just... going to characterize him based solely on his lowest point in TSE? Spring and a Storm and Mucka Blucka are also songs where he's present- along with his presence in Just Apathy that the fandom seems to outright deny to keep their characterization of him as some violent, abusive monster. (Which, again, is quite literally never alluded to! He's honestly kind of a victim, if anything!)

Ohhkay. Next topic. Mind. Oh boy I have thoughts on how people characterize Mind.

He's not emotionless. If you believe this, you've fallen for his stoic facade. All of his songs are just. So full of so much rage. Maybe even a little bit of grief and sadness and fear, masked by said rage. He isn't some emotionless robot- (Heart calls him an automaton as an insult, but that's another rant.) and honestly it feels like such a disservice to such an interesting character with so much unexplored depth to portray him as such.

Heart. Oh boy. Where do I start. Heart what did they do to you.

Heart is the emotional side, yes, but that isn't just some... smol innocent uwu baby who cries all the time. Emotions aren't small and cute and timid. They're INTENSE and PASSIONATE and EXHAUSTING. Strong emotions leave you so, so drained, good OR bad. This is so much more interesting than portraying him as some "uwu hai dere!!" type of character. Which is nowhere in the album.

Whole is hardly even a character. Soul worshipping and praying to whole is fanon.

This fandom's weird obsession with creating shock gore and one-upping each other in a violence competition has spiraled pretty far out of control, and it's honestly crazy. How do you go from an album about internal conflict to violence that would make even the cast of Resident Evil cringe? Brah.

Final notes uhhh. Soul is a victim who got pushed to his limit, not an evil heartless abuser. Mind is angry and unstable and hurt, not some emotionless robot. Heart is the entire emotional spectrum, not some innocent baby. Ok i . I think that's all. Have a good one

[jaggybot3000]

chonny jash/cccc fandom PLEASE rb + share how you got into chonny jash i wanna know!! thru his covers, animation, a recommendation or somethin else?! can be a super long or short explanation, im so curious as to how we all ended up here lol

i'll go first(kinda lengthy so its under a readmore)^-^

I had a whole miracle musical/tally hall phase in the summer of 2022, was obsessed with The Mind Electric, and i made a yt playlist w like 50+ versions. fastforward a year later, in the middle of 2023, i found a crazy 12 minute cover by this weirdo named Chonny Jash(what kinda name was that??) and gave it a try and holy shit my mind was blown, the three songs were easily the best covers i'd ever heard and i fucking loved them so much

at first i was just a fan of those three songs, but slowly thru the end of last year but surely i started listening to his other covers, like Hidden in the Sand, Variations on a Cloud, Ruler of Everything, The Bidding, and The Whole World and You, in that order(they all have a soft spot in my heart cus of it). I realized thru The Bidding that the songs were actually all connected so on the last day of 2023 i gave the whole album a try and fucking loved it, both song and lore-wise and from then on I was a huge fan. i've since listened to a lot more of his music tho not everything yet

it's kinda crazy that I've only been super into it not even for that long, but my journey def started like almost a year ago now lmao. you could say i fell very slowly into a hole i couldn't s

[disruptivevoib]

hi! ive listened to some of chonny jash's songs but did not realize that there was really a story? Or i vaguely knew but didn't have the time/energy to get into it and with the release of the bidding animation ive realized theres like a bajillion awesome animations and art and i want to get into cccc but have no clue how. also why does soul have a trident.

OH man!

The story of CCCC has an overall seeming narrative, but much of it's smaller points are interpretive due to Jash himself leaving it up to fans of the album. But! Overall it kind of goes like:

-Jash or, what most people call Whole, splits as due to mental dissonance and waning mental health. (Time Machine Reprise).

- Whole fades into Soul (End of TMR into Dream) and from there its Mucka Blucka as a sort of introductory song. The recap for a story you have or haven't heard yet.

- (The entire album is a time loop! Which is a big metaphor for the cycles of mental health and illness people go through.)

- From there its the section called "Cacophony" which starts off with Soul, but eventually it turns to Heart and Mind + their fighting and inability to see or listen to one another or their points of view. Of course, as Logic and Emotion, they both have valid ideas or opinions, but believe themselves so contradictory that the other must be evil or out to get them.

- Heart attempts to shoot Mind, as referred to in Ruler of Everything. Literal or Metaphorical as you take this, it is seemingly symbolic for an attempt at one's own life if not self sabotage. If not then both.

- The rest up until Soul Eclectic is sort of just the Mind and Heart fighting and their own personal views each on the situation.

- Soul in The Soul Eclectic reaches his breaking point. Threatening to kill them all (A more direct attempt at suicide)

- Mind and Heart in the subsequent songs decide to get their shit together.

- (Two Wuv) Soul realizes that not only can they be happier now but that trying to force themselves to conform to society's ideas of mental health or belief or love is just plainly unbeneficial. Sort of a song about unapologetically being yourself.

- Welcome To Tally Hall is a tribute to Tally Hall themselves more than anything.

- This transfers into Concord soon after! Concord is Whole or Jash by himself, though many of the songs seem to carry themes from Cacophony in them. Self sabotage, disagreement, importance placed on the wrong thing, the idea that no one person is better off than another. It concludes with Taken for a Ride. Which is also sort of CJ's epic "im burnt out as hell" song towards the end. But exaggerated to my knowledge for lyrical shenanigans.

That is CCCC as neutrally told as best as possible. I highly recommend forming your own ideas on it, but I'd be happy to also discuss more in depth my opinion on each song should you or anyone else express interest!

Getting into the Trident: The fandom took the metaphor of "Tridential Sovreignty" and "This trident he formed (found? Lyrics.) is both weapon and motive" and said "Soul's got a trident" to which Jash responded with "Absolutely yes he does now" Same with the crown most people put Mind in, and that is referenced in the "Trident, Crown and Blindfold" line.

Soul really did get noose imagery, a trident and a mask. All Heart n Mind got were a blindfold and crown. Lmao

Though Heart is also commonly drawn with wings. Which is semi-canonical according to album covers. I choose to ignore them because I don't particularly have an attachment to the idea!

Getting into the fandom itself, I can recommend looking around for the Chonny Jash Fan Server (CJFS) Discord link. But it can be extremely intimidating and even I just stick to discussion and one other thread channel. (Sides from my au channels which pop up every once a month or so).

Important note is that only Tally Hall covers have to do with HMS. Any of Jash's other music (of which I highly recommend, always) is unrelated. There is also a fan QnA somewhere that was done like a year ago now which has some neat answers in it.

I, again, am happy to go into my interpretations of HMS and the music as a whole but skdmsm saved you the reading hopefully should that be undesired!

[cccc-aus]

So I've got my first ever cccc au (far from my first au in general tho lol) and I'm calling it my Summer Solstice au! And I'm very open to asking questions or giving your thoughts on how I could take it, I love getting input!

The premise is "what if Heart killed himself in the pit (around Just Apathy)?" and the resulting Issues.

In the immediate aftermath, Soul panics. Without all 3 of them, they can't merge back into Whole! Losing one of them didn't end it, so maybe if they all die? They'll merge? It's the only idea he can think of and he wants so desperately for them to be Whole, so he'll do it! But if Heart dying didn't kill them, there's no guarantee his death will kill Mind, so he has to kill Mind before he can die and try to fix things. Mind thinks that hinges way too heavily upon "maybe it'll fix things" so he's not exactly lying down and accepting it.

Soul grabs Heart's abandoned shotgun and Mind gets the heck out of dodge because a trident and shotgun are going to win against his chainsaw if it turns into a fight. From there, it becomes a matter of endurance. Soul can track Mind semi-easily, but Mind prepared better when he realized the sun wasn't setting (the moon's dead, after all). It's just the two of them wandering an ever-heating world, trying to stay alive until the other's dead.

I don't have a ton other nailed down yet but Mind does pick up a parasol during his wanderings :3

…Holy fuck. This fandom really likes to make Mind suffer, huh?

Yeah, that certainly sounds like something Soul would do. What a cool concept! (ALSO CHAINSAW MIND MENTION CHAINSAW MIND MENTION CHAINSAW MIND MENTION)

If you’re here for my thoughts on how you could take it… well, it literally just turned 6am over here and I haven’t even been up 15 minutes, so my brain still needs a little while to start working correctly.

But, I will say that I just can’t see Mind surviving long in this situation. If the world is constantly getting warmer and warmer due to never having any breaks from the sunlight, well… robots and heat don’t really tend to mix. It’s only a matter of time before he overheats- and Soul’s plan probably hinges on that. Good thing he found that parasol.

(Hell, even if he’s not a robot in this context, he’s also associated with the cold as well as the sun, and they rather famously don’t mix either. The poor boy’s gonna melt if he’s out in that for too long.)

[finleyforevermore]

Curious because i was unaware of the existance of a CCCC fandom, any entry level info and suggestions :::?

Hi Cass! I could give you some entry level info sure! :)

CCCC is an acronym for Chonny's Charming Chaos Compendium, which is an album by Chonny Jash (yes you're reading that right).

The album is made up of rewritten and recontextualized versions of songs by a currently "on hiatus" band called Tally Hall, along with the band members' own side projects/personal projects, such as Joe Hawley's group Miracle Musical.

I'll try not to give away too much, but the story is about a person referred to as The Whole, who metaphorically splits into 3 different individuals, the purple and blind Heart, the blue and logical Mind, and the red and powerful Soul. Soul, Heart, and Mind (ESPECIALLY Heart and Mind) have got to figure out how to make things work between each other so that Whole can remain...well, Whole!

I do suggest giving the album a listen (if you wanna watch the music videos that go with songs, use this playlist!), and if you want/need to, use excellent artist @/cinnamonsly's annotations of the album! It's an excellent and easy to understand analysis of the album!! :)

There's also W3tBl@nk3t's awesome in-depth song-by-song analysis of the album! You can't really go wrong since they're both really great analyses!!

Oh, and speaking of artists like @/cinnamonsly, if you take a look at the "#cccc" tag on Tumblr, you'll find some awesome art of the characters! The characters technically don't have set in stone appearances so you can imagine em however you want!

There's a discord server for fans of Chonny's music and it's full of lovely people! Would highly recommend joining it! (if you descend far enough down the rabbit hole-)

I think that's all the entry-level stuff you need to know! Hope you have fun dipping your toes into the world of Chonny's Charming Chaos Compendium! 💜💙❤️

[dontlookforme00]

You’ve converted me… 😞

gimme a guide on what order to listen to the cj songs pls 💫

....holy shit. Another one bites the dust. I'm so good at recruiting people

OKAY so, if you're looking for the cccc (Heart, mind, and soul) storyline, ya gotta go to cccc. Shockingly, i know. Its full name is Chonnys Charming Chaos Compendium. It's a 'cover' of Tally Halls, Martins Marvel Mechanical Museum.

You can actually listen to the songs in order, they're pretty chronological!!! I'd recommend listening to them all, if you've got time ofc. If you don't, start off with The Heart Acoustic, then The Mind Electric, then The Soul Eclectic.

But it's pretty important you listen to the whole album eventually

You might not understand it. I sure as hell didn't. Side note, heart=moon, mind= sun. Buuut, after you've listened, and if you like the songs, then I can show you a video analysis on the album. It explains the story and some of the symbolism, and definitely helped clear things up for me!! It's right here, if ya need it.

Those are all the hms songs (for now.) !! But he has other albums, too.

Most notably, Gothic Whore, or the Novel Lyric Hunt. It's a whole bunch of songs about various gothic stories, including but not limited to, Carmilla, Dracula, Adam (frankensteins monster) and Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. I don't actually have that much for this album, other than, it's very nice! Very cool.

The lyrics are pretty easy to interpret, especially if you know the stories. If not, there's always the genius lyrics annotations lmao. No joke that's how I did it.

Ofc, you don't have to read into the lyrics or anything, but if you wanna have all the subtext for the fandom, it sure fucking helps. I also find it pretty fun.

You can ignore all this and do as you please!!! Just have fun, his music is fucking great

Other great albums include, covered in discontent, That Handsome Devil Power Hour, the before, and The Tim Minchin Power Hour. Cya!!

[dailyhmsw]

ohmygodohmygod breaking the gimmick for a moment just so i can spew about this . okay hold tight tons of text under cut

i think whole as a concept is so so interesting. when i first got into cccc i never even considered whole as a character; there was the persistent idea of whole, but i only ever saw his thirds, not himself - if there is a self to see at all.

when i started engaging with the fandom, i never really saw a general consensus about who or what whole is. sometimes he was a person, other times he was a deity, and a few times he was simply a state or an idea. hell, i always saw different colours for him as well, from orange to pink to green. this divide always confused me and i never really knew how to view this potential character until i started thinking wayyyyy too hard about it as i always tend to do LOL

the definition of 'whole' would change depending on which piece you ask. i think hms' different views of whole would be yet another thing they'd constantly disagree on. the general agreement is that whole is something to work towards, but what does that really mean?

for heart, in my opinion, whole would be a state, the state where the three of them coexist and operate as if they were one being. they are whole, not a separate entity, and only they are capable of being whole. the state of 'whole' is warm and fuzzy and it feels like laying on a grassy field near the end of summer where the weather is the most comfortable and feeling all of the tension and pressure in your chest just leave - the pit gets filled, no longer do you feel hollow. whole is being able to sit next to mind and soul and not dread the conversation to come when the sky opens his mouth. hypothetically.

for mind, whole is just an idea. it's a goal to achieve. not necessarily the three of them, but what the three of them are supposed to be; functional, apt, all as one being. alive. because they aren't alive right now, not to mind, he wouldn't call this a life. whole is supposed to be their life. they're never gonna be able to meet that goal if they don't get their collective shit together though, and sometimes mind wonders if whole is just going to be an idea forever, not quite tangible, a goal just out of reach.

for soul, whole is a person. whole is who they're doing all of this for. whole is his motivation to keep going, because without them, whole would surely fall apart, and that is the opposite of what soul wants because then they'll all be doomed for sure. he's sure whole depends on him too, and views their 'relationship' as sort of symbiotic. and sometimes it's hard, because soul has never seen whole. who is he really fighting for? whose life is he carrying on his back like it's the entire world? what about heart and mind? the two often wonder if soul only tries to care for them because he cares about whole. it stings a little. safe to say they don't really like soul's interpretation.

but who or what is whole really? who knows! not hms! and at the rate they're going i doubt they ever will! whole will forever be a fun little enigma to me, and therefore he will always be an enigma to them.

,,,,also i'm very very sorry if this rant is absolutely incoherent HAHA i have trouble getting my thoughts in order. thank you for reading,,

part 5 of the ascertain how the cccc fandom really feels project thing (idc if this is annoying. answer my polls median chonny jash fan.)

DEFINE WHOLE GO NOW

- what is Whole? is Whole a person? a state? is he something to believe in (a god, even)?

- how do hms feel about whole? do they have different opinions? which of them are right? are any of them right? is it subjective?

[itsybitsylemonsqueezy]

Gotham 4x05: A Liveblog

Phew... long, long day, super delayed liveblog, but here it is, in all its glory. And frankly, after last time, I am not hoping for much : |

TL;DR - So there was a footrub and- HEY LET’S TALK ABOUT SOLOMON GRUNDY!

You know I’m disappointed in Gotham when I have not been chomping at the bit to see the next episode. If they get ANYTHING right today, I'll be pleased

Buuuutch :c my baby, my angel :cccc

...there’s literally location called “Slaughter Swamp” there’s literally... *throws book on floor* *walks out*

And yeah, I'm sure dumping a mostly dead body in... this swamp is Very Safe and will not lead to Anything Weird Ever. After all, it’s not like the waters in this town have literally resurrected people...

HARVEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. HARVEYYYYY *sobs* Oh god and you look so good and your boyfriend has been AN ALL TIME LOW recently and... HARVEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY *cries into 50 pillows*

This season was supposed to be about you two getting married. And instead what do I get? The divorce. I fucking hate how this show writes Jim. HATE.

Is lil Bruce contemplating murder??? Daaaamn boy. Is this show finally actually going to become ABOUT Batman??? Am I actually going to start giving a fuck about Bruce? Jesus, how the turn tables.

Side note: David was younger here, they shot this episode earlier, not later

MMMM, all them good funeral feels for Bruce, MMMMMM. This is fine. I’m sure he’s... fine.

Jim what the fuck, fuck off. None of your shit now.

Oh my GOD Jim, you’re going to lecture ALFRED about PARENTING??? JIM. JIM. REMEMBER WHAT YOUR USELESS ASS WAS DOING FOR LITERALLY ALL OF LAST SEASON? IT WASN’T FUCKING HELPING BRUCE. FUCK YOU.

Why this show is choosing to make me hate Jim is beyond me. Holy fuck.

Bruce, I know you’re not Batman yet but... Batman is No Killing for a reason buddy. *pets* You gotta learn that lesson.

Babs hair this season continues to be... I don’t even know what her style is this season

HOLY FUCK WHY IS RA’S IN A HANNIBAL CAGE. HOLY FUCK OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD.

How Hannibal is this show going to get??? HOly SHIT.

Don’t tell me they gave Babs the fucking “soft paper, no clips, no staples, do not accept anything he hands you” rules (that BY THE BY we used on Frank too and that will NEVER stop being hysterical, although most of you are probably not in that fandom) too??/ HOLY FUCK WHAT THE SHIT

RA’S IS NOT A SERIAL KILLER, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU JUSTIFY THIS... WHAT THE FUCK OH MY GOD

I want to be paid a dollar every time Gotham borrows from Hannibal because... WOW. wow.

Jesus Fucking Christ What Even Just Happened

Oh thank GOD we’re back in Slaughter Swamp, I’m so sorry for what I said about you earlier, NEVER MIND, you are MUCH better than that, VERY welcoming, bless you Slaughter Swamp

...is that Oswald’s murder trailer? Welp, for the purposes of amusing myself, I’m just going to say that it is. Just come full circle on it. That trailer stays in the family.

Apparently none of you have seen Frankenstein or you would know not to wave fire at the recently returned from the dead : ||||

That... I guess that’s as good a way to get a name as any

*groaning about Sofia’s existence*

Is it an f or a ph? does anyone know? Meh

Mmmm... Oswald’s twitchy, he makes bad decisions when he’s twitchy. Of course, why Oswald should be twitchy now is a mystery. I can only hope the decision to abandon Ed isn’t sitting well with him. BUT that might make Too Much Sense because Fuck This Show

Hi Ed. I see your pill addiction is... still a thing. I’m not sure how i feel about the fact that you turn to drugs when you can’t handle shit.

...okay, I kinda love that Ed is now bad at everything in a new and entirely understandable way, as opposed to when he was bad at everything but we were SUPPOSED to think he was oh so smart (personally I think there are WAY better writing angles in that in regards to hubris and you know... actual fucking development but, WHATEVER writers, you do you). I have no idea where this will eventually lead, probably nowhere, because this show sucks and is determined not to make any progress of any kind but rather run us round and round in the same circles for all eternity, but this gets props for being entertaining if nothing else

“Butch, I have never had an issue with you” ...Ed. Edddddd. I’m. I’m just going to sit here silently.

Butch, I love you to death, you are everything, please drag Ed, both figuratively and literally, back to your cave and fix him. I love you so so much, please take care of him and then the two of you can be bros for life

Niiiiice, Alfred in his casual Night on the Town clothes, mmhmmmmmm

JIM SHUT YOUR FUCKING USELESS WHORE MOUTH YOU SELF-ABSORBED PRICK, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT DEAD WEIGHT TO EVERYONE HERE, DON’T YOU DARE PRESUME TO TELL ALFRED HOW TO PARENT YOU UNWANTED CODPIECE

NANANANANANANANA BATHOOK!

...you’re kidding me, I’m supposed to believe Bruce has memorized the changing of the guard at Blackgate? *siiiiiigh*

...yes, I also keep my ceremonial murder weapons stuffed down my shirt. It’s almost like you need a utility belt or something

I hope to god Sean flubbed that line and everyone just went with it

“Under crackers” is now the only way I am going to refer to my under garments and/or genitals

...OKAY SO GRUNDYGMA IS THE NEW NYGMOBBLEPOT WE ALL KNOW THAT RIGHT?

Holy shit, I thought y’all were just being crack but THIS IS SUDDENLY THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS SHOW I AM IN LOVE THIS IS PERFECT PLEASE GOD MAY THEY NOT RUIN IT IMMEDIATELY

Holy shit, ONE good scene, ONE good fucking scene in A MILLION years, oh... sweet jesus THANK YOU, I’ve waited SO LONG for literally ANYTHING to be good again and HERE IT IS

Uhhh... is Sofia gonna murder Oswald over lunch? Because if so: No.

Oh boy, back to overplot

...okay, I have no idea what to make of Ra’s al Ghul, if he’s lying or not, not a clue

Ed... Ed you REALLY need friends right now, would you please just TRY to human being for a second. Jesus. You’re stupid and you’re still SO BAD at EVERYTHING.

Awww, see, there you go! There you go sweetie, you can be friends!You can do it, good job not letting your only friend burn to death, that’s a good step forward!

Uhhhhhh oh, Oswald’s having mom feels. Oh boy.

Alfred, confirmed 300% more useful than Jim ever was

Poor Oswald... damn, without an Ed as a clutch for balance, Oswald’s spinning his wheels. This is 100% what I expected when the season started, but I”m a little upset at the pacing. This should have been obvious and building from day 1 and AGAIN, LAST episode should have had a VERY different emotional tenor. His limp is also atrocious right now, he’s very stressed and jumpy and there are obvious reasons why, but they haven’t PLAYED any of them, which is annoying.

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The List Of Things I Could Say Right Now. I’m Just.

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do you know who fucking else has seen Oswald’s fe-EDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

ALL OF THE ANGRY GIFS IN THE WORLD CANNOT EXPRESS MY RAGE

So uh... are you a mummified corpse in all reflective surfaces and you’ve just been avoiding mirrors, or does this trick only work in puddles?

...really milking that death there Alexander. Which is fair, this is a comic book show after all.

GREAT acting on David’s part tho, mad props

Yes, yes, cute jaw drop, very hammy, good job

Jim, I’m pretty sure this is the first time you two have spoken in like... 2 seasons. Just saying. you don’t know each other that well... or at all really.

Also, I‘m not positive killing someone who was immortal and who wanted to die is really murder either. Especially considering he was The Worst. Like... you shouldn’t feel bad, at all, that he’s dead, you’ve actively saved lives by killing him. Even if this is murder, I”m just saying... probably the best murder you could have done. Good job Bruce? Meh, I really don’t have any investment in this storyline, I'll be real.

Ed, why must you lie to your own and only friend? Why Ed? *siiiigh* Baby steps of friendship I guess, baby steps

...annnnnnnnnnnd there it is.

Knew it was too good to be true, couldn’t have ANYTHING nice this season could we. No, no of course not. Ooof course not.

May the all-consuming void swallow me up whole so I don’t have to deal with This.

[twig-gy]

uhhhhh while we r here. what was i going to say. OH RIGHT I SEE NO CJSHIPPING LIKE. TAN SEME A? I CAN NAME LITERALLY ONE PERSON WHO I’VE SEEN MAKE CCCC SHIP ART. NO ONE CALLS THEMSELF A CJSHIPPER. IT’S ACTUALLY BIZARRE. LIKE YOU COME ONTO AO3, WHERE SOME OF THE GREATEST LAUDED MASTERPIECES OF THE FANDOM ARE CJSHIPS (let ardour sprout, therefore you and me) and you go here and there’s just NOTHING LITERALLY. NOTHING. do people just not like drawing them kissing? am i not following the right tags? it could be just user error. like maybe none of my mutuals like cjshipping so they don’t reblog it. i don’t fuckin know.

it’s like. this is just my extremely faulty memory but it’s like hms incorrect quotes doesn’t allow shipping, some of what i perceive(d) to be the most popular n best artists like made posts saying ‘it’s gross, i don’t want you here. they r brothers’. and now no one talks about it? except for like. people still having it on their dni. god this fandom is so weird with shipping like cmon join centricide we are shamelessly making this man kiss himself. well obviously the situations are extremely different. jreg is just so odd. like he made a video called stop sexualizing me where he took off his shirt n covered his body in oil. he’s made his reputation as the irony person so solid that even when he makes a video candidly talking about how he views the fandom, sounding completely serious, saying at the beginning these are his honest opinions, no one TRUSTS HIM, and they are right to do so, yknow? but i’m just saying. it’s like whiplash. every other fandom is so shipheavy. in bnha finding a genfic which isn’t a oneshot is like. aghhh. 99.9999% of all bnha fics i’ve read n liked just put a ship in there somewhere! like an obligation! there just has to be a ship arc! a major part of omori fandom is carved out n devoted to shipping wars. even ddlc is talking about which permutation of girls is best. every other fandom i’ve wanted to ship LESS. and then we come here, and it’s like seeming as if it’s just. reviled? TAN SEME A? idk it’s been confusing. i still have bitterness over those damned ‘hms are brothers’ posts like. clenches fist like an anime character. kicks feet.

well there’s important context to say that i feel should be obvious but like. if jashshipping just makes you uncomfortable i literally don’t care. ride on. block me. godspeed soldier o7

it’s like there’s a difference between say being ‘anti-cjshipping’/having cjshipping on your dni and just not liking it and it not being to your preference or anything. swagever it doesn’t really matter n i’ve said this before