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fatcowboys Ā· 4 months ago
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god this little witch's jaunt or whatever tbe fuck taylor called this bouncy little song that played when we first met the council of elders as well as during this last vote is so fucking GOOD. i just resisted to the last few minutes 75% to relisten to the song. like the episode is so good the MOMENT is so good and it's SO well by this song it's PERFECT. like theres so many little discordant little sounds that swell and pull the melody away from each other (and also every instrument is so beautiful on their own but when they ALL play together?? the drums,the strings, the voices singing, the flutes, all of them together are SO incredible and powerful likeeee. it's SO good)
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guacameowle Ā· 6 years ago
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Vā€™s After End - Notes / Opinion
Below the cut will be my reactions, opinions, & spoilers for Vā€™s After Ending episodes & endings. Thereā€™s a sprinkling of ~thirst~ & a lot of confusion/screaming throughout. I am afraid I havenā€™t gone back to proofread the episode reactions, so theyā€™re likely a little messy & misspelled.Ā 
Episode reactions are at the top, separated by episode & endings. Long-winded opinion/discussion about the route itself is at the bottom.
Journey below at your own risk! xx
Episode 1
80 hourglasses for EPISODE ONE? Oh this man is EXPENSIIIIVE. How many episodes is this going to be? 8 TOTAL?! Goodness.
JUDGE OR FORGIVE?! Who am I judging & forgiving? Jihyun? Rika? Cauuuuuse... uhhhh.... that might change my answers a bit (a lot)
So this means there is going to be multiple endings, yeah?!
Probably hasnā€™t even kissed you yet & is already packing up, leaving, & asking you to wait for him. I WAIT FOR NO MAN (Jk I waited for this man for over a year. Fuck.)
Oh shiiiit. Heā€™s leaving me his house?! Ok, Iā€™ll wait. Have fun storming the castle! *waves*
Excuse me but does the news screen on Juminā€™s tv in his room show a picture of Rika & a caption underneath that says ā€œMore Catfoodā€???
The bottom of the news reel also says ā€œDoes Jumin Han is Gay?ā€ Please, release us. Let it die.
JUUUMIIIIN. DO NOT BLAME YOURSELF. Let us comfort each other in these trying times. *waggles eyebrows*
JAEHEE COMING THROUGH WITH SOME GODDAMN SENSE & LOGIC. MY GIRL!
SOMEONE GET THIS MAN HIS WINE! Ohhh, nevermind heā€™s been drinking too much. Letā€™s have some water now, Juju.
This man is mourning & distraught. I am so sad for him. & now theyā€™re making him dependent on alcohol to relieve his stress? Uh, I donā€™t like where this is going.
If anything happens to Jumin in this ending I swear...
WE HAVE CHATS TOO?! Damn what a complex update!
Wait, Zen WANTS to see MC & Jihyun being lovey dovey? Zenā€™s an imposter. Heā€™s been replaced. Thatā€™s the real secret of this After End.
Oh wait, he said he was lying. Whew.
It is weird giving replies in chats & not seeing little colorful hearts flying everywhereā€¦
Zen coming in HOT with the ā€œDo you think you can forgive Rika?ā€ question. Woooow.
You bet your ass I asked if anyone has heard anything from Ray. Iā€™m going to cry.
NEW SEVEN CG! SO CUTE! VANDERWOOD IN THE RAFT! SO CUUUUUTE!
ā€œHeā€™s an adorable shy man.ā€ Instantly chose this option. Vanderwood is cuuuute. Yes, Seven, please tell Vandy that I called him adorable & shy. Then tell me his reply. Then give him my number.
Yoosungā€™s got a package. Iā€™M SURE HE DOES. ::eyes emoji::
OH SHIT, JUMIN DROPPING THE DNA BOMB. Wait, riddle me why the fuck Jumin had access to Sevenā€™s DNA in the first place...
Poor Seven, I thought he had already sort of knew/assumed the hacker was his twin. But I guess he didnā€™t really know until now?
Looks like Iā€™m on the ā€œFORGIVEā€ path. Unlocked a Juminā€™s VA free chat. Alriiiight.
Episode 2
Ray? Omg my eyes teared up. IS HE ALIVE?! WHAT KINDA SHORT TEASE OF A VOICE IS THAT?! OMFGGGGG. D:
Episode 2 & Iā€™m already fucking crying. Great. Awesome. Lovely.
Honestly, Iā€™m glad theyā€™re having this discussion about V keeping all this information to himself about Saeranā€™s existence & use within Magenta because thatā€™s always had me side-eyeing V HARD. Iā€™m still of the opinion that he should have told at least Seven & Jumin about everything sooner. I get that he wanted to save Rika, but he was responsible for Saeran. Iā€™m still heated.
SAEYOUNG HAS GONE ROGUE!
Mailman route when?! Kidding. His voice is nice though.
ā€œBurn the letterā€ JESUS, MC. CALM IT DOWN.
RIKA WENT MISSING. OMFGGGG. THIS AFTER END! I JUST WANTED TO KISS JIHYUN. WHAT THE FRICK FRACK IS GOING ON?!
ā€œWe found remnants of DNA that matched with those of Luciel scattered about in the remains of Magenta. Since the explosion was of no ordinary sizeā€¦.ā€ My heart hurts. My head hurts. My soul hurts.
This super sad music is just making me feel worse. I hate this. Iā€™m crying again. Iā€™m getting emotional whiplash.
Ray deserved better. Full stop.
Rika & Saeyoung left alone & Rayā€™s theme starts playing. How fucking dare this game fuck with me. Iā€™m literally lying on the floor in a ball, playing this game & crying. What the hell.
For a second I saw Saeyoung making that fist in the CG & thought he was about to punch Rika.
Wow can yā€™all believe Jihyun basically Noped the Fuck Out of his own After End?
Hey Siri, turn off Rikaā€™s voice.
Seven is dropping a lot of truth. ::quietly sips my tea::
God, Saeyoungā€™s prayer to Saeran is heartbreaking. Props to this VA though, damn heā€™s good.
Still on the ā€œFORGIVEā€ path. Iā€™m going to have fun going back & taking the judgement path.
Episode 3
Jumin ā€œTHERE WILL BE NO MORE SECRETSā€ Han fucking coming through! My boy! God, I love him so much.
First sun reference weā€™ve had. I thought there would be more by now.
Jihyun is out there falling in love with an MC in his head that heā€™s hardly spoken with since he left. Thatā€¦ canā€™t be healthy, my dude.
Jumin showing up in the goddamn woods in his suit is hot.
Jumin Han is so so good, yā€™all. This conversation between him & Saeyoung is absolutely amazing. Heā€™s doing his best to comfort & protect at the same time. He asked about Saeran. Heā€™s encouraging Saeyoung to live, helping him understand heā€™ll come out of this pain & find new reasons to live. Heā€™s struggling too, but heā€™s doing so much to reach out & help Saeyoung.
The line about creating a new family, one without blood ties, broke me.
Uhhhhā€¦. who was that? ā€œWe found him but that woman is with him.ā€ Saeyoung & Rika?
THE STRESS GAVE ZEN A PIMPLE. Can relate.
Hell yeah I flirted with Zen. He is still prettier than starlight.
ā€œWhy donā€™t you come over? :)ā€ MC. GIRL. ā€¦. I like the way you think.
Yoosung: ā€œWELL Iā€™M NOT GANDHI.ā€ I fucking lost my shit.
ā€œShould I drive Vā€™s car?ā€ Uhhhhh YES.
ā€œBut youā€™re gonna have to drive thru the night for hours. Iā€™m kind of worried.ā€ Bitch, Iā€™m from Texas. I got this. 8 hours is a SHORT TRIP.
The disrespect. They arenā€™t going to let me drive. I donā€™t need a man to drive me.
DID VANDERWOOD JUST? OMG DID HE? DID HE JUST SHOOT SAEYOUNG?! BITCH, I LOVED YOU????? & YOU DID THIS????
Omg my heart. Why do they play with my emotions like this. Whew. WHEWWW.
VANDERWOOD CG!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Saeyoung is getting a lot of love tonight from his two new dads- Jumin & Vanderwood. Soft love & tough love. Shouting love at you with a gun in your face is new though.
YES! LETā€™S LOOK FOR A BODY! I STILL HAVE A SHRED OF HOPE RAY IS ALIVE. Cā€™MON CHERITZ, PLEASE.
ā€œWould you mind giving me some spotlight now?ā€ Please let this be foreshadowing. I would eat UP a Vanderwood route.
Is another agency trying to kidnap Saeyoung? I am confusion? His dad?
Still on the ā€œFORGIVEā€ path. Yoosungā€™s VA has a cute voice. I liiiiike.
Episode 4
My Yoosung is so sad. This boy has a lot of hate built up in him. First for V, now for Rika &&& V. Goodness.
She? Who the hell is Rika talking about? She who?!
Seems like everyone is concerned that MC will pity or listen to Rika too much. Hmm. Hmm hmmmā€¦
Jumin is getting shit DONE.
2 years flashback. ????
Mika?! Who the fuck? Is this the ā€œsheā€ Rika was talking about earlier?
What he hell kinda narrative? Who is this woman? Supposedly some other girl from the orphanage Rika was a part of. Sheā€™s introduced & being used as the device that implanted this idea into Rikaā€™s brain that she had ā€œa devilā€ inside of her? Sheā€™s the reason Rika broke it off with V? Why? This feel like it cheapens everything. & why the hell is she calling Rika ā€œMinaā€? Is that Rikaā€™s real name & I just forgot?!
IS RIKA LYING? WHY DID SHE WAIT THIS LONG TO TELL SAEYOUNG ABOUT THIS ā€œSTURDY ROOMā€? COULD SAERAN REALLY BE ALIVE? Or is she trying to trick Saeyoung into leaving the cabin?!
Ok so the twinsā€™ father has to be in on this somehow. Heā€™s probably the one trying to get Saeyoung, I get that much. Omg... what if the reason they didnā€™t find proof of Saeran being dead is because his dad snatched up the remains?! Or kidnapped him alive? Or or or
Still on the ā€œFORGIVEā€ path. This is hard. I want to be mean. šŸ˜ˆ
Episode 5
I donā€™t know why I go into this game thinking I will just get to kiss the pretty boy. Or any boy.
Ok so more hints dropped their dad is probably involved.
ā€œI am waiting for a letter.ā€ GIRL, FUCK Vā€™S LETTER. HE IS NOT HERE. SHIT IS GOING DOWN. LIVE IN THE MOMENT. IF HE WANTS TO BE OFF SMELLING FLOWERS, LET HIM. I AM TIRED.
I hope hope hope they find Saeran. Please please PLEASE.
I FORGOT. IF RAY IS ALIVE HE IS GOING THROUGH DETOX ALONE BURIED UNDER RUBBLE & ASH. I AM LIVID! WHAAAAT! SAVE. HIM.
Zenā€™s ā€œWOOOOWā€ made me laugh.
These new CGs are a delight. I like seeing the mix of characters in them, too. Zenā€™s hand is huge. ::eyes emoji::Ā 
Maaan, Yoosung really flipped emotional spectrums so fast about Rika. The boy is certainly driven by his emotions.
These philosophical type chats always blow me away. This game really does get you thinking about social constructs. Fun & educating. Huh.
Getting these dirty boys to wash their hands before eating.
SAERAN MADE IT OUT?!
THAT IS SAERANā€™S COUGH. OMG. HE IS ALIVE?!?! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ SAERAN!!!!
Still on ā€œFORGIVEā€ path.
Episode 6
Jumin, this is a very roundabout way to tell Saeyoung you care about him & just want to look after him. You long-winded, man. I adore you.
SAEYOUNG HAS MORE VALUE THAN JUST WHAT HIS HACKING ABILITIES CAN BRING TO THE TABLE! LEAN ON YOUR FRIENDS/FAMILY, SAEYOUNG. THEY CARE FOR YOU!
10 years?! I donā€™t know if that is a blessing or a curse. Lol. Thatā€™s a lengthy commitment for Saeyoung though.
ā€œWhy must we give up one thing once we get something else?ā€ Yeah, Cheritz. Why must we give up one boy once we save the other boy?!?! Hmmmm???? Lmaoooo
Saeyoung in a suit & tie!!!!!!! Niiiiiiice.
How in the hell are they gonna wrap up this story?! Itā€™s gonna be a cliffhanger isnā€™t it?! Omg...
Did these idiots just straight up leave Zen, Yoosung, & MC in a random cabin in the woods FOR DAYS & go back to civilization on their own? How long does it take to return Rika back to proper authorizes?! Goodness.
WHAT?!
WHAAAAT THE FUCK?!?!
V TOOK SAERAN?! WHEN? HOW? WHAT?Ā 
MY JAW JUST POPPED IT DROPPED SO HARD. WHAT THE SHIIIIIT?!?!
Uhhhh lmao uhm why are they dressed like Jedi? Jihyun is giving Obi Wan vibes right now. Iā€™m cackling, when I shouldnā€™t be. This is supposed to be a serious moment, goddamnit.
I know Jihyun probably thinks heā€™s doing right by taking care of Saeran but AGAIN WITH THIS DOING IT ON HIS OWN BUSINESS?! Saeyoung is devastated his brother & all the while Jihyun had actually swooped him away for some self-medicated detox tour? Just more & more secrets. Iā€™m tired.
ā€œLetā€™s wait until detox is done & you donā€™t wanna murder your brother. So I booked a flight for next week.ā€ A WEEK? HA! YEAH RIGHT! BEST CANCEL THAT.
Oh, he just keeps booking & cancelling flights. Lmao. Ok. I am less judgmental now.
If Saeyoung & Saeran donā€™t get a reunion.... I will die inside.
Unlocked the ā€œFORGIVEā€ ending.
Shit that costs 80hg too? I have nearly depleted what I had saved up!
BUT HOLY SHIT Yā€™ALL. SAERAN IS ALIVE! šŸ’—šŸ’—šŸ’—šŸ’—šŸ’—šŸ’—šŸ’—
ā€œFORGIVEā€ Ending
This song is hauntingly beautiful.
Who is this speaking?
Is Rika high right now wtf?!
God is a woman.
I am so over all this sun talk. Let. It. Go.
Werenā€™t security guards left with them at the cabin?! Did Rika just WALK out?!
Of course sheā€™s going to run away & get away with everything. Mhmm ok.
NOW THEY ARE COMING FOR JUMINā€™S COMPANY?! I THOUGHT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE GOOD END WTF. Iā€™LL FIGHT. DONā€™T COME FOR C&R. Iā€™LL THROW DOWN. JUMIN BETTER NOT LOSE EVERYTHING.
So Rika is gone & for no reason Zen & Yoosung & MC are going to stay in the cabin alone? (& not have a threesome?!?!?!)
Jumin is literally putting his own company on the line to protect Saeyoung. This man is amazing.Ā ā€œWeā€™ll rebuild.ā€ My nipples are hard. Jumin has fully aroused me. I would have taken him right on a conference table.Ā Ā 
Welcome to Rikaā€™s Ted Talk
Well.... I am pleased she stepped up & laid the truth all out there. Took us years to get here, lads, but we did it!
Twin cribs. Hmmm.
2 YEARS LATER?! SO THIS CONNECTS TO THE GOOD END OF JIHYUNā€™S ROUTE?!
2 years, huh... I would have shacked up with Jumin looooong before now. That man is a whole snack. Selfless, sweet, handsome, has a cat. Iā€™m thirsty.
Juminā€™s become an alcoholic?! Great. /s I guess this is meant to show just how drastic things are? That Jumin, our token rational & logical man, is resorting to a dangerous lifestyle as a means of coping? Iā€™m heartbroken.
ā€œHave I kept you waiting for too long.ā€ Yes.
His gift better be bringing Saeran on stage because if he unveils a white puzzle I will lose my fucking mind. It is nearly 4am. I havenā€™t slept. I just want a smooch.
Omg I think itā€™s happening.
Itā€™s gonna happen.
OMGGGGG
Please let there be a CG of this
IT HAPPENED!!!!! THEY REUNITED!!!! OMG!!!!!
LONGEST HELL YEAH BOOOOY OF MY LIFE
Pink suit pink suit pink suit PINK SUIT!!!! šŸ’—
Ohhhh... Saeran has burns all over his face & his hand. Is his whole left side burned? My poor boy.
5 years later?!? (Mmmm think about mid30s Jumin Han though šŸ‘ŒšŸ»šŸ‘ŒšŸ»šŸ‘ŒšŸ»šŸ‘ŒšŸ»)
*gasp* A BABY!
Holy shit, not a baby. A full child.
Awwww Saeyoung & Saeran live together!!
YEEESSSS. GET THIS LITTLE GIRL INTO STEM!!!!Ā 
ā€œWhen is Uncle Jumin gonna marry.ā€ I marry him every few weeks, little girl. šŸ‘ŒšŸ»šŸ‘ŒšŸ»šŸ‘ŒšŸ» when I reread his endings.
ā€œDaddy thinks he will never get married.ā€ I am now sad. I want to marry Jumin.
Jaehee got a promotion. Good for her. Itā€™s what she deserves.
Aw Lucy is cute. Surprised they didnā€™t give her Jihyunā€™s hair color.
Their house has a lot of windows. šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€ Floor to ceiling windows. šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€ Good for fucking against. šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€šŸ‘€
THIS CHILD IS ALREADY LEARNING TO KEEP SECRETS. NOOOOO. BREAK THIS CHAIN!
ā€œDaddy is good with secrets, too.ā€ TRUST ME, LITTLE GIRL. WE KNOW. WE KNOOOW. Yā€™all the noise I made when I read this line. Scoff wheezing?! Full exasperation.
ā€œBut you tell everything to Mommy!ā€ About fucking time, honestly. How long did it take for him to break his secrets habit?
Ohhhhh sheā€™s adopted! Thatā€™s why she doesnā€™t have his hair color. Curious why they didnā€™t go with the biological child path? I certainly donā€™t mind adoption. It definitely feels like a sort of tribute to Rika.
Girl already has a crush on Zen. Ha! Giiiirl, same. Jihyunā€™s reaction was funny.
I wanna ride Zenā€™s motorcycle & his diiiiiiiii
7 years later & Yoosung is still addicted to LOLOL. Keep it up, Yoosung. Live your best gaming life.
Now sheā€™s plotting murder against her own dad. Goodness. & Yoosung just TOLD her this entire dark plot of the game. Lmaooooo
What happened to Vanderwood? Did he accept working at C&R? How is he? Is he eating? Did he take a vacation away from Saeyoung? I need to know.
Jihyunā€™s speech to his wife is sweet. Now kiss!
Omg I canā€™t believe I didnā€™t get to smooch him at all. What.
What.
100 HOURGLASSES TO RESET?!?! HIGHWAY ROBBERY! I need to save up all over again for when (if) they drop a Saeran After End
ā€œJUDGEā€ Ending
No, going back to the place you hate most isnā€™t a sufficient form of punishment for the crimes youā€™ve committed. You canā€™t just punish yourself & call it justice. Thank u, next.
Why the fuck is Rika called Serena now?! How many names does she have?!Ā 
Is Rika really free & just doing her own apology tour?! No trial or hospital involved? Iā€™m????
Yoosungā€™s dialogue makes it seem like he still wants Rika around. Flip flop.Ā 
I do enjoy that Yoosung is a very emotional character, even if sometimes in the stories I donā€™t agree with him. Heā€™s always very open & honest with how he feels, even if taken to extremes.
Jaeheeā€™s discussion with Rika was very rational. As expected.
Damn Zen gave her the boot double quick.
Jumin: ā€œYou are a minus given a breathing body.ā€ Ohhhhhhh my god. šŸ˜®šŸ˜®šŸ˜® & he told her he wants her sent to a lab to have data collected from her. Jumin is ANGRY.
So this discussion with Saeran is meant to be in her own head, yeah?
Ok her discussion with Saeyoung felt real -ish again but then her discussion with Jihyun sounded bizarre & far-fetched again. So has she just been inside her own head this entire time?
What the fuck... is going on.
Wow, letā€™s toss in some sexual assault via clergymen to spice things up. Alright. /s What the hell is this?
This ending is fucking bonkers
Omg Zenā€™s robotic reply made me lose my shit. First time Iā€™ve laughed because of this ending.
Poor Vanderwood. He sounded excited to have a line.
Sooo... the ending has just been a mock of how a Rika route would have gone if she had one?
Wait this was all just MCā€™s dream?! Rikaā€™s dream?
& now Rika is in a coma?!? What? What???!! Iā€™m... tired.
You know what, at least Saeyoung & Saeran are back together. Silver lining. The only silver lining to this madness.
Yoosung got a whole new look again. Iā€™ll admit, for a hot second I thought he had become a cult leader & I was worried.
Sooo... the RFA became some sort of support group for Rikaā€™s victims?????
Jumin doesnā€™t want to be a part of the meetings because he doesnā€™t particularly subscribe to their efficiency. Zen just doesnā€™t want to be involved because he doesnā€™t want the reminder. Jihyun basically just didnā€™t show up. So is this to mean the RFA has fallen apart entirely? Rename the group, change your ideals, be more open with each other, & formulate new ways to create charity events/fundraisers. Find a new purpose together! PULL. YOURSELVES. TOGETHER.
Ugh. Ugggghhhhhhh.
So, Iā€™ve sat on this for a little under 24 hours. I let it sink in, in hopes that I could make better sense of it. But honestly, I donā€™t feel like I have. I feel perhaps this after end should have been listed in a separate section like the secret endings. These episodes certainly read more like a secret ending.
Rather than call thisĀ ā€œVā€™s After Endā€ I think it would make more sense to have called thisĀ ā€œVā€™s Route After Endā€ (or evenĀ ā€œRikaā€™s After Endā€). This ending felt more like a means of giving closure to the route itself, rather than an acknowledgement of Jihyunā€™s relationship with MC. We were shown Saeran was alive, we were given Saeyoung & Saeran reunited with one another finally, we got answers as to what happened with Rika & how she ended up in Alaska, we found out why Jihyun was really away for two years, we had Saeyoung & Saeran stepping out from the hunting shadow of their father. Questions were answered, resolutions of sorts were given.
When I think ofĀ ā€œafter endā€ Iā€™ll admit, I assumed we would be given a short snippet of story revolving primarily around Jihyun & MC post-good end, like we had for the other characters; not this dramatic saga between the end of the route & before Jihyun returns two years later.Ā 
Jihyunā€™s route revolved around him understanding his relationship with Rika & then distancing himself from that & trying to find himself. His route felt like it had more Jihyun x Rika content than it did Jihyun x MC content. This After End there was hardly any Jihyun x MC content as he was gone essentially the entire time. He really Noped Out of his own After End; Iā€™m still a bit shocked I paid so many hourglasses for V content.... only to not be given V content. I admit, I feel foolish & cheated, somehow.Ā I went in hoping for more content about a character I was interested in, only to be given this dramatic story revolving around a character I donā€™t particularly care for.
Iā€™m disappointed that there is a Forgive or Judge aspect to this ending.Ā 
In the Forgive path/end, the blame of Rikaā€™s crimes & actions is pinned on Rikaā€™s mental illness, choice individuals swaying her into taking particular actions (Ā ā€œembrace your devilā€ ), and various circumstances sheā€™s had to endure & live through. By introducing this new character (Mika?), are we meant to blame her instead of Rika? Is she a scapegoat since the idea was originally hers & not Rikaā€™s, even though Rika was the one that enacted everything? On top of this, Yoosung is shown to be reading a psychology book & also comes to the conclusion that what Rika has done isnā€™t really her fault, but the fault of her circumstances. All of this feels like we were being ushered into forgiving Rika and feeling guilty if we donā€™t. Provided you do choose to forgive Rika, she finds her own inner happiness, becomes ā€œher own sunā€, and goes off to live her life in Alaska; no consequences aside from distance (physical & emotionally) from her once friends/family & developing a negative public appeal. This forgive path directly ties in with Jihyunā€™s good end, implying itā€™s the better (intended?) ending. That doesnā€™t sit well with me. MC shouldnā€™t have to forgive their captor & tormentor in order to achieve their own ā€œgoodā€ end.Ā 
In the Judge path/end, the other characters often show hesitancy when MC expresses she will never be able to forgive Rika. There are philosophical chats about what is actually good vs bad, what is just, & who is to decide these sort of standards. We are led to question if holding on to a grudge hurts ourselves or the other party more. And in the end, when we choose to judge Rika, the RFA falls apart; everyone is miserable. Again, the reader is left feeling as if their judgement was too harsh, too cruel, or uncalled for as the consequences of it have seeped out & negatively touched other people. Rika falls into a coma ā€“ doesnā€™t go off to live her life in Alaska, doesnā€™t find her own inner peace ā€“ & this is all because she was blamed or shunned for her actions, as opposed to being forgiven. Why does everyoneā€™s happiness depend on MC forgiving her captor?Ā  It all left a sour taste in my mouth.
I understand the discussion of what is truly good vs bad or what is meant to be just & unjust can go fairly deep, but I feel that discussion applies only to circumstances that are in a grey area. What Rika did (attempted murder, abuse, emotional & physical manipulation, drugging/brainwashing) is clear cut wrong. There is no question that these are bad decisions. It should not be up for debate whether these sorts of actions areĀ ā€œgood or bad.ā€ While I do not deny that Rikaā€™s past (whatever it fully may be as I have not read her backstory DLC) has attributed to her behaviors, it does not excuse them. I believe that mental illness does not excuse someoneā€™s actions.
These are two very extreme endings - either Rika gets off free from her actions or she becomes comatose & succumbs to a darkness. Why have these drastic differences when you can merge the two; have Rika go through treatment to help her, serve a punishment that is fitting of her crimes, help her grow & understand, then have forgiveness come later? There were several options within gameplay along the lines ofĀ ā€œI hope one day I can forgive herā€ &Ā ā€œI hope she finds her peace.ā€ I see nothing wrong with not having MC forgive Rika but still wish for progress to be made.
Everyone was happier in the end where you forgave Rika, though. And isnā€™t that what everyone wanted in the end?
Overall, I didnā€™t mind Yoosung & Zen portraying the voices that provide the philosophical discussions in the routes and this After End. In fact, I enjoyed the chats with them as I tend to find philosophical discussions thought provoking, even if I do not always agree with what these characters were expressing. While MM is marketed as a visual novel romance, it has never shied away from delving into deeper topics & oftentimes tries to provide a lesson. Perhaps this time, the lesson they hoped to get across, didnā€™t hit the mark with me.
Yoosungā€™s emotions were very extreme in this After End. I have come to expect Yoosung being very up front, unapologetic, & pushy with his feelings. In a game where so many characters are often keeping secrets, itā€™s almost refreshing to have a character that is so viscerally open. Personally, I found it interesting that Yoosungā€™s feeling towards Rika had flipped so drastically. It was almost as if he was now trying to overcompensate for his previous idolization of her.Ā 
Iā€™m still of the opinion that the world does not deserve Jumin Han. Through his own pain & suffering, through dealing with the disappearance of his dearest friend, through having to come to terms with the fact that a woman he once considered a close friend turned out to be someone so villainous, he has stepped up & even at one point risked his own company, reputation, & livelihoodĀ to protect someone he now considered family. He used his time & resources to help as much as he could. He sat & genuinely listened to Saeyoung & calmly gave input despite Saeyoung verbally lashing out at him. Iā€™ll admit I hated that Jumin seemingly became an alcoholic, or at least heavily dependent on wine, during the stretch of time these After Ends covered. He was suffering, but because he needed to keep his shit together, he used liquor as his means of turning off his brain so he wouldnā€™t think too heavily about what was happening, otherwise heā€™d spiral. You can bet your ass that every time there was an option to chooseĀ ā€œHow is Jumin doing?ā€ I took it, because this man needs someone to look out for him while heā€™s busy looking after everyone else. I love him. He remains my favorite.Ā 
I am thrilled Saeran is alive. I am ecstatic Saeyoung & Saeran got the reunion I had been hoping for (& in both endings!). The doctor part of me really wishes his treatment & recovery occurred in a hospital, instead of some nature tour with Jihyun while wearing Jedi robes, but beggars canā€™t be choosers in fiction, I suppose. I am glad Saeran is safe, recovering, had the time to heal his relationship with Jihyun, & is living with Saeyoung now. Itā€™s what I wanted for him.
On one hand, I can see why Jihyun kept Saeran being alive a secret (Saeran wasnā€™t ready to see Saeyoung yet, he was detoxing, he needed more recovery time, he needed the peace away from everything, if Saeyoung knew he would have gone after them immediately rather than wait for some time to pass) but on the other hand, I had had enough of the secrets. I am glad though that the story allowed for Saeyoung to have some hope that Saeran was alive. If the narrative had left no suggestion of hope & Saeyoung had fallen into a depression of sorts, then I feel when Saeran was finally revealed he [Saeyoung] may have not handled it as well. But Saeyoung was given a chance to hope, to grow, to finally relax/settle where he was, & was allowed time himself to recover from everything that happened, which I think helped in how he received Saeranā€™s reappearance.
Definitive proof that Vanderwood has grown to care about Saeyoung as a person?! Sign me the fuck up. That was amazing. I greatly enjoy Vanderwood.
With Saeyoung, I did enjoy seeing his range of emotion & reactions to this entire ordeal. He was desvasted, broken, distraught, angry. My heart went out to him & I felt his pain. His monologues were great. His reactions felt real. It was a bit jarring to see how readily he was contemplating suicide & how quickly he cast that aside as soon as some other bit of info to cling to came along. I understand, though, that this story took place in a short amount of time & the creators were trying to portray his progression in the time they had. I am tickled that he was offered a 10 year contract with C&R & that he readily accepted. I have enjoyed seeing him begin to accept that he can plant roots somewhere, open up to those around him, & not fear that heā€™ll one day have to leave.
I was originally miffed that Jihyun went off for two years on his own, seemingly to get over Rika, making MC wait around, before he could commit himself to MC. Knowing now that those two years were actually spent helping to rehabilitate Saeran in seclusion, I am assuaged. A bit.
I am, however, left feeling as though maybe MC isnā€™t meant to be with Jihyun. Iā€™ve certainly felt as if there is more push to have Jihyun x Rika remain together as Cheritz still doesnā€™t give, what I would consider, adequate bonding & development between Jihyun x MC (not that 11 days of story in any of the routes could be described as adequate bonding time, lolol). Majority of Jihyunā€™s scenes (in his route) are about him reminiscing about his past with Rika, rather than discussions that may cultivation a budding relationship with MC. I like Jihyun, but it feels likes itā€™s been made intentionally hard to romance him. Maybe it was naive of me to hope we would get cute scenes of Jihyun & MC getting to know one another more, or be shown ways Jihyun made it up to MC for being gone for so long, or even a mini date story, or actually seeing the proposal happen, or even a kiss? But I did hope for all of that, so I canā€™t pretend Iā€™m not sad we didnā€™t getting to see it. The romance between Jihyun & MC feels brushed aside, like an afterthought, & I was hoping that this After End would finally put it at the forefront of the story told.
While I donā€™t like how the situation with Rika was handled in either route, & while this After End was not at all what I was expecting (I just wanted to kiss Jihyun, omg), it wasnā€™t a total loss for me since the twins are reunited & happy, which I think may have been my biggest wish. The voice acting as phenomenal & I can tell how much time & effort Cheritz put into creating this mammoth, complex & thought-provoking story. Iā€™ll be honest & admit that I am upset I spent so many hourglasses for content that seemed packaged as Jihyun content but turned out to be more about Rika, but nothing can be done about that now.Ā 
If I had to pick an ending I preferred, it would definitely be the Forgive End, as there is more happiness for everyone I care about when it concludes. It was nice seeing Jihyun & MC have their little family, even if it was a very brief interaction. Their adoption of a little girl feels like a nod to Rika, of sorts. Perhaps that isnā€™t what Cheritz intended, & maybe there is no hidden meaning to why they adopted at all, but I am happy to see Jihyun & MC having brought a child into their home to create a family with.
The CGs are beautiful. Is there even a way to unlock the title page Jihyun proposal CG? I didnā€™t get it in my play-through at all.Ā 
I didnā€™t hate this After End, but I definitely didnā€™t love it either. I guess it kind of falls in a strange floaty grey middle area for me, somewhat flat. Hopefully many of yā€™all enjoyed it! I look forward to seeing what they may give us for Saeranā€™s After End. I have a feeling that may be a wild story too.
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Live posting prodigal son 1x07
-Gil being a bit rude but bright needs sleep
-Pizza shovel
-Aww her flirting is adorable
-Surgeons car and dead body at same place....suspicious
-More victims? How many? Oh like nine. Okay. Okay.
-Ooh sneaky Ainsley/ scary Ainsley
-Yas Tanaka tell Gil. Listen to my boi Gil!
-No known Surgeons victims blood?
-She definitely thought this through
-Real Martin Whitley even if it kills me
-Weird guy puts her at a Whitley to her bf
-Did bf know yet?
-Malcolm stresses over profile. Donā€™t worry you got this.
-Omg, your hood, no Malcolm
-ā€œHey, Bright!ā€
-Young Bright hunting someone? Or something?
-Very good Ainsley, going for the questions
-Taunting him? Why?
-Manipulating people and trying to be a doctor to get sympathy
-Legacy?
-Wow he really got the camera going
-Sibling team up?
-Are the cameras really going be off?
-Wow Malcolm found about the knife, it was his.
-Flashbacks for Malcolm
-Did Malcolm forget his sister and her BF in the room
-Oooh sibling team up
-HA NEXT LEVEL TRAUMA
-Supportive siblings. I love this.
-Wow Ainsley really went for it.
-Oh shit lock down
~I have the feeling that there gonna have to defend against that guy and there gonna have to free Martin so he can defend hem and murder that guy.
~What if he uses that time to escape!!
~Or he just uses it to defend hem and says Iā€™ll stay here so I can still have a connection to my kids.
~so many ways this can go and Iā€™m scared of the outcome
-Wow Gil!
-Yas, Sibling bonding at its finest for ignoring their mother
-family bonding time now?
-bi dr Martin Whitley??
-Oh gosh I have a bad feeling about the bf being out the door.
-oh no! DID MARTIN MENTOR?
-ah man I was right about the bf dying
-oh there gonna have to let him go to have him operate? And save the bf.
-omg dr martin Whitley wants to be released to help?
-wow describing the death to Ainsley
-malcolm wants to do it so Martin doesnā€™t want to
-oh no! I just remembered he had the shaky hands and he has a flashback
~Fuck I knew it
-please donā€™t make your kids regret and hate you more for this Martin
~the imagery of giving the knife and the music is dope
-ā€œlets get to workā€ but thought he was gonna stab someone
-wow ainsley. Get at him. Shit.
-use that for what?
-gonna use the taser? Maybe? Suspicious?
-ā€œand he wonā€™t do anything stupidā€ /proceeds to go out to get the killer unprotected with only a taser
-Gil do you even know our boi?
-uh maybe thatā€™s not Kevin? Auditorial hallucination?
-oh shit that taser
-damn you good malcolm
-uh why do you need the toilet paper?
-the music was suspiciously anticipatingly scary
-uh ainsley and Martin....bonding?....
-oh thank goodness. Thank you for giving the scalpel up
-uhhhhh, ā€œI guess we make a good team.ā€ uuuHhHhhHHHH!!!!
~Okay but wtf was that noise in the vents since it wasnā€™t Kevin! Was it a auditorial hallucination? I know he is supposed to get those know cause memoryā€™s starting to come back but like ????explain please?
~hopefully they explain before end of episode
-Mother and daughter/ dad saved Jen
-Uhhhh ā€œof course he didā€
~tevin or Kevin?
-wait why is Martin is in solitary confinement?
-Okay the harness looks like it made him escape. Why is it just laying there on the floor?
-ā€œSerial killer prison with a visit to their serial killer father that didnā€™t go wellā€/ wow Jessica
-uhh phone is ringing and itā€™s spooky
-basement phone ringing? Why?
~Fuck! He did escape!!
~who knows about the boarded up room in the basement
-oh shit so it was another guy!
~damn okay he didnā€™t escape but calling it now! He will escape!
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