#he was mysterio in mcu spiderman with holland

[kstarlitchaotics]

Would be interesting to see a MCU villain be a hero wouldn't be the first time

[hoffmanstits-enjoyer]

Peter: do you take constructive criticism?

Quentin: i only take cash or credit

[athenaholmesartistsguild]

God. I just finished watching the first spiderverse movie and ATSV really makes you forget that ITSV was just as perfect and amazing and flawless and every other good adjective I can think of (although ITSV has way fewer flashing logos at the start which was good for my beady little eyes).

It's almost 2 hours long (a little shorter than ATSV) but it really doesn't feel like it. But I think the pace is a bit different too?

In ITSV, everything is happening so quickly that if you asked me how long the movie was without letting me look it up, I'd probably say about 90 minutes. It's a super easy watch and the plot is brisk enough that it introduces 5 new Spider people (and Aunt May), gives us their backstories, and gets us emotionally invested in their lives WHILE ALSO developing Miles' coming of age story and his development into his dimension's Spiderman without the story feeling bloated or rushed. It's really impressive.

ATSV on the other hand, has pacing similar to a Breaking Bad episode where everything just keeps building and building and while it never feels like it's dragging or becoming boring, you can feel the length. The last 20-30 minutes of ATSV, I was dreading the ending because I knew we'd been watching this movie for a while and that the cliffhanger was coming up and I just wanted to keep watching this awesome movie!!!

ATSV feels like a movie that's almost 2 and a half hours long while ITSV feels like you're watching an episode of a TV show or reading a comic book (Imagine that!).

And it's so funny because ATSV is such a piece of fucking art that it made me forget that ITSV was just as groundbreaking and that it was also one of the greatest superhero movies ever made.

Also, and this is kind of off-topic, but I like that the Spiderverse movies are breaking away from this nepo-baby adjacent Spiderman that works for a big strong super hero organization and is a billionaire's successor that we're getting with Disney's Spiderman movies. Don't get me wrong, I saw the first 2 movies and thought they were pretty fun (forgettable, but fun), but Spiderman in those movies just... isn't Spiderman!

Spiderman is a normal person, that's kinda the point. While he can be a gifted student (or artist or inventor etc), he's still a middle class kid who fell into his powers. He can only do so much while having school, a job, bills, and all of his relationships to maintain. That's why Spiderman's civilian life is such a freaking mess! Well, that and I am of the opinion Spiderman is a metaphor for ADHD but I have a comic planned to explore that.

He's a vigilante, yes, but he's not like the Batmans of the world where he just bought himself a superhero identity (not necessarily ragging on Batman. I like him too).

He's a superhero for the people. Not only does he stop the occasional Green Goblin or Doc Ock, but he also helps with muggings, corner store robberies, little shit that big heroes like Iron Man, Hulk, and the like can't be bothered with. I bet if you asked Spiderman for help after you locked yourself out of your apratment, he'd find a way to get you back in because that's who he is!!

Spiderman Homecoming making a working class man who was fucked over by Stark Industries the villain feels so against the idea of Spiderman. And then Far From Home has Mysterio go from a failed actor and Hollywood illusionist turned criminal to an employee of Stark industries who has his work taken from him, literally named BARF by Stark, and is then fired. Say all you want about intellectual property rights and whether Stark legally stole this man's life's work, but the point is this series made several intentional changes to these villains that demonize the working class and glorify Stark (who is vindicated by the narrative of the overarching MCU and the Tom Holland trilogy).

Why are the working class the enemy? Spiderman is the working class!

ATSV having a super secret Spider-government that borders on being a totalitarian nightmare is much more Spiderman's speed.

Spiderman can't go at it alone, that's made clear in several of the movies and even the Spiderverse series itself ("You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us!"). But Spiderman doesn't need expensive equipment or the power of a government-like entity. He just needs his loved ones whether they be other Spiderpeople or the people living around him.

I just can't get over these movies man.

[giffingthingsss]

MCU Spiderman

I feel pretty much nothing toward Tom Holland's spiderman. I don't really know why? It's not his fault I don't think.

I just watched No Way Home and I kinda wish this was the first spiderman movie in the MCU? Take away all the Mysterio references and the movie resetting the plot to make him more of your typical traditional spiderman, it's interesting to basically bring in the other spider guys to stop this one from making their mistakes.

The plot of 'saving' their villains is interesting and kind of a nice follow up to their films. I just think it would work better if this was the starting place for the MCU spiderman. He could have still been around before as a side character in the other's movies.

[starcchild]

So the multiverse never goes to shit in the ikau? If Quentin doesn't reveal Spiderman's identity, Peter does not ask Doctor Strange to change things, which messes up the multiverse (or rather, Peter messing with the spell messes up the multiverse lol)... But, up until that point, the multiverse was already slowly becoming messy due to the events of WandaVision and Loki. So maybe the ikau needs some sort of event that will completely shatter the multiverse too, despite Peter being safe!

((tbh I haven't seen anything after ffh, so I haven't,,, really thought anything else after through DSFGHJDFSJH

it might have to hinge more on whatever goes down in WandaVision and Loki tbh. Or maybe with a bleedthrough of canon mcu into the ikau? so canon!Peter (Holland specifically) messes with things, and it creates a strong enough ripple into the ikau 'verse that allows it to be apart of that shattering. Otherwise... maybe Quentin inspires someone to fuck around with the multiverse? I mean, that was his whole charade as Mysterio - that he came from a universe looking to avenge his dead family. Maybe that whole thing inspires the wrong type of people to start looking into the multiverse in general, and it... gets way outta hand. He's not responsible for it, but it was definitely an unintended consequence. At least, that's my two cents on the thought sdfjhksdf

[coralinejones]

peter parker youtube apology video when

[peterflopker]

If New York believes Mysterio, some random dramatic bitch who literally just showed up, over Spider-Man, who protected their asses for two years, helped save half the universe with the Avengers, AND literally has the face of a puppy, then they don’t deserve my boy Peter Parker and Loki was right

[mirubida]

This is the hottest he’s ever looked, no I will not elaborate.

[spideyboyy]

Me at the end of ffh: Well I am so pleased peter got the girl AND saved the world. Nothing can ruin this for me!

Jon Watts:

[spideyjlaw]

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THE WAY HE SAYS SEBASTIAN’S NAME I-

[achaoticeternal]

this man.

i can’t.

[tom-is-bae]

You know why MCU Spider-Man villains are never exclusively after Spider-Man? Because Peter Parker has done nothing wrong in his life ever

[shattteredvisage]

I knew going into this that Beck was gonna turn out to be a bitchass liar and I tried to be vigilant but him telling Fury to call him Mysterio and that goofy look he gave Peter to make him smile melted my heart I'm so weak

[galmiahthepigeon]

Mysterio: How's the suit?

Peter: A little tight on the ol' web-shooter

Me:

[limecow]

okay but mysterio is literally from another earth

mysterio: hi

peter:

[peterflopker]

Jake Gyllenhaal wasn’t even acting in Far From Home. Jon said go fuckin nuts and Jake released all his dramatic n chaotic energy to beat up Tom