#he truly cares about the message and thought provoking-ness of his work

[mando-abs]

Guys, I’ve read the Wild Robot

And let me tell you, if I hadn’t recently taken a Children’s Literature class in college, I would’ve said this was the best middle-grade book I’ve read since elementary/middle school. I almost read this book in one night (I was sleepy 😴) like I couldn’t put it down.

The heart behind this book is astounding and it never shies away from showing complex and difficult concepts. You will fall in love with Roz and her gosling son along with all of the other animal on the island.

If you’ve got younger ones, I highly recommend reading this to them or having a little book club moment with them. However, be prepared for whatever hard questions may come your way (i.e. circle of life and climate issues). You know your child and how much they can handle/understand. If you’re like me and much older, it’s a quick read and a great way to finish off a long day. It’s a part of a trilogy and you bet I’m patiently waiting for my hold on a copy at the library.

If the movie is anything like the book (which, given a rewatch of the trailer, it’s looking like so), we are in for a special treat.

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Ne+Ti vs Ni: An ENTx endless rambling

First things first: thank you for once again answering my ask, I appreciate it and again, it did help. I’m sending this message knowing that it’ll be probably ignored or worse, blacklist me but I’ve reached the limit to where I can go without direct and specific input, so here goes nothing:

(Mod note: italics indicate Ti, bold indicates Ne)

I’ve been trying to nail down my type for quite some time now yet I can’t settle down for any typing because

1) I invariably start questioning its validity since contradictions are bound to appear and even if I can justify or rationalize them (which I have a pretty good ability to do, sadly, since it drives me insane), they bother me to no end hence I start looking or a “perfect” diagnosis again

2) I can see significant traits of myself in several of very different types, it’s maddening

3) When I spot a connection between myself and a type being described I immediately (can’t control it really) start rationalizing why it could be true, why it would explain this and that, why I couldn’t see it before, for what I was mistaking said trait/behavior for, memories of time since which I display said traits/behaviors flood my mind as well as multiple examples of people of said type I always felt a connection to or was intrigued by…all seemly at the same time or in such rapid succession I have a really hard time calming down my mind in order to try and make sense of all of what’s going on inside of it.It’s like I can find compelling (as seen by me) evidence to me being a lot of types, and I’m always 100% serious about it at the time…except my “sureness” never lasts for more than two days at a time, mostly.

It frustrates and embarrasses me because I’m hardly unsure about figuring out (and typing) other people, and I’m seldom wrong at that, but I can’t pin myself down and it makes me feel incompetent and unfit. Everyone always says I’m good analyzer and jokingly refer to me as a blunt psychologist, yet my MBTI confusion makes me feel like a fraud and I HATE it.

I highly suspect I might be mixing the 8’s need to control (I’m a 873 with 8 being the core type), which comes across as “J-ness” for Ni fixed path/truth thing (besides ENTJ lately I never get high Te or Ni types in tests, it’s always high Ti ones) and lately I’ve been daily noticing my Si “trips” so to speak and pondering over my supposedly hilarious “gastronomic memory” (I somehow can recall and describe days and situations based on what I ate that day if it was particularly delicious. I know it sounds ridiculous and I have no idea how that works, but it’s true).

I’m also pretty certain I value Fe over Fi, though ethics in general definitely take a backseat to logic most of the times, it’s noticeable enough for people to comment on it.

Two minor things I relate to Ne that I display in spades and everyone seem to find amusing is that I can never see a thing separately for a noticeable time before I see it integrated to a  grid of things like it or other contexts in which the same principle or happening applies to or will influence it. Words and images almost always bring other words and images to mind and I go crazy if I can’t recall what it reminds me of specifically. This seldom happens though, usually I can reference several things/people the original object is alike to, though it seems that to a lot of people these similarities can’t be observable or comprehensible at all, but it makes perfect sense to me and I can explain how.

The other thing is that I have way too many interests for my own good and I tend to obsess over them until they saturate me, I’m totally a slave to what my mind finds interesting in detriment to my actual obligations. I also always have at least 20 tabs open on my browser, because somehow I can’t seem to read an article or watch a video without having to Google something referenced on it, which starts the rabbit hole that has no end and makes me forget what I was reading/watching/researching in the first place. Also my mom is an ENFP and so I thought I couldn’t be a Ne user because we are both alike and so different at the same time, but I now truly realize that a function may manifest differently depending on what is it paired with, and her Fi is really strong, which I can’t relate to at all. I won’t even go into Ti vs Te because by now this is already ridiculous long and I doubt anyone would even finish all this. 

How can Ne+Ti mimic (or more precisely, appear to be) Ni? If possible please include concrete examples, whether fictional or real.

In that vein, could an ENTP 8 be reasonably mistaken by an ENTJ?

If you survived all this rambling and take your time to answered this somewhere in the future…you’re a hero, truly.

Not only am I a hero, my ENTP friend is a hero, since we both read it. ;)

Do you need me to say it?

YOU ARE AN ENTP.

Stop doubting it. Chill with it. Dig it. Tell your NeTi to stop considering other types. That it continues doing that should prove your own Ne-ness to you.

Everything you describe is heavily Ne, with an emphasis on Ti, so I’ll just pull a few comments out and talk about them.

Also my mom is an ENFP and so I thought I couldn’t be a Ne user because we are both alike and so different at the same time, but I now truly realize that a function may manifest differently depending on what is it paired with, and her Fi is really strong, which I can’t relate to at all. 

The bold is the pure truth, my friend. ENFPs and ENTPs might look like each other on a superficial level but they are not the same thing at all. As ENTP puts it, “You have moralizing tendencies and I deconstruct all your morals.”

It’s true. My morals scream loud and clear. In fact, I can look back at my teen years and see just how black and white my moral thinking was; everything was right or wrong, good or bad. That is a WHOLE OTHER ball of wax from NeTi and their attitude of “People should be able to believe what they want, even if it’s wrong.” (This was an actual conversation I had this morning. =P)

Ne is inclined to change its opinions and perspectives with very little warning, which makes the “inconsistencies” of Ne-doms somewhat obvious (when trying to determine ENXP from ENTJ), but there are many mistypes between them floating around the internet. For example: those who insist Obama is an ENTP instead of an ENFJ, when he was there for one thing – health care  – or who believe Stephen Hawking is an INTJ instead of an ENTP despite the fact that he routinely challenges and deconstructs his own theories. ;)

ENTJs have a no-nonsense approach, disinterested in deconstruction. It’s just facts and business with them, in the sense that Te wants an object to do its job, and needs no complete understanding of that object to move forward.

Since ENTPs have Ne/Fe loops, they are zany, often aimed at provoking humor in the audience, have a general sense of amiable goodwill, and are able to handle anything you throw at them without a moralizing tendency (unlike the ENFPs). Good examples of this are Billy Crystal (ENTP not INFJ), Jeff Goldblum (ENTP) and Robin Williams (ENTP, not ENFP – he’s got TONS of Fe), who described his inner chaotic world as similar to what you said above.

Yes, Enneagram makes a difference. 8′s are aggressive and that might make you come across as more ‘challenging’ of others than is typical for a Ne-dom.

- ENFP Mod

Here’s what my ENTP friend has to say:

I’m not one of the professional mods, but I AM an ENTP. And as one ENTP to another, I’m here to assure you that ENXPs’ minds move at a frenetic pace, bouncing around from idea to idea, from THOUGHT TRAIN A to THOUGHT TRAIN Z without any obvious link between them, contributing to restlessness, anxiousness. High Ne just can’t ignore the various combinations between your past and present behavior and all the different MBTI types. It constantly scans for new possibilities, new patterns and associations.

Ne is not intensive and convergent like Ni. When it reaches a sense of conviction and closure, it’s because the aux function has guided it to that direction. Ti identifies all exceptions or imagining scenarios in which a proposed explanation might falter. Our Ti reduces everything to a system, a large logical ensemble of arguments and counter-arguments, into an interconnecting network of principles and rational procedures that is disconnected fromreality and with the assistance of dom Ne, it sees the bigger picture and builds many different perspectives.

Now I am going to paraphrase the words of the Doctor. “Through crimson stars and silent stars and tumbling nebulas like oceans set on fire, through empires of glass and civilizations of pure thought, and a whole, terrible, wonderful universe of impossibilities, I welcome you to the ENTP club!”

- ENTP