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Actually no my favourite thing is shocking people with my answer to "how would you survive an apocalypse" "where would you hide" "what weapons would you use" bc yeah nah im in the first rank of people dead, not by choice, but because I'm a part of the class of people that will always die before it hits or as soon as it does. So nah, I don't think about "surviving" like you do, because surviving to me os justifying why i should be around. Why i deserve to breathe, to live, to love and to experience. I'll spend all my life justifying why i don't think my mum deserves to have her life cut short so you can go out while you're sick. I think I'm perfectly justified in being curt in my assessment, especially those of you who are intelligent but end up complacent. Complacency is a real disease
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I'm so freaking tired of Kali discourse on my dash like y'all are so freaking immature on both sides of it
Kali is a morally ambiguous character. She does awful things, but she does them for reasons that, to her, are justified. As the audience, it's a moral dilemma, do YOU agree that she's justified? There's nothing about her that's black and white, and treating her that way is a disrespect to her character. Demonizing her every action and giving her no empathy isn't right, but defending her like an angel who can do no wrong isn't any better
Kali is an abused kid who's been through a lot. She's never had the opportunity to live a normal life or learn normal morals, she's been exposed to cruelty her entire life, and now that she's free, she does the one thing she knows how to do, take revenge on the people who hurt her. And she does some bad things in the process. You can argue for years whether or not she's justified in killing the bad men, there's no right or wrong answer to a philosophical question of morals. She does also manipulate El. But she doesn't do it maliciously. In fact she really does believe that this is what's best for her. Kali's done a lot of bad things, and while there's no justification for that, there is explanation. Demonize her all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just an abused kid trying to heal, even if she's not doing it the greatest way
But then on the other side of it, no one is obligated to forgive her. You may love her and think she's the best character on the show and have no problem forgiving all the things she's done, but that doesn't mean other people are required to do the same. I really don't think this should be a controversial opinion, but people are allowed to dislike ANY fictional character, no matter how perfect you may see them, because ALL characters make mistakes and no one is ever obligated to forgive any of them. And we're all human and we all have different lives and different experiences, so as a result the mistakes characters make will affect us differently. There's not a single situation where it's ever okay to attack someone because they dislike a character you love. And then there's the race thing. Of COURSE Kali's race comes into play, because of course people are gonna be more willing to forgive white characters for their mistakes than characters of color. It's naive to act like race isn't a factor. But claiming anyone who dislikes/hates Kali is racist? It's just as naive. She's a morally ambiguous character. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that there's people who do hate her because they're racist, but Kali has done a lot of things that can make someone not like her, assuming the only reason someone doesn't love her is bc of her race (and then attacking them over it) is rude and immature.
Kali isn't a black and white character and she's not meant to be treated that way. Yes she's done bad things, but she's done them for complicated reasons that's up to your own personal morals whether you think is justified or not. You can hate her, but you have to give her empathy and understand why she acts the way she does. And at the same time, claiming she hasn't even done anything wrong and that she's perfect is just as disrespectful to her character bc it's ignoring who she is and just painting her out to be what you want her to be.
To conclude: No one is morally superior for liking or disliking Kali. She's ambiguous and no one is required to love her or hate her. Stop attacking people over their character preferences and go outside and get some fresh air
#im gonna get peopoe calling me hypocrites for this bc back after s2 i posted a lot of kali hate#but that just goes back to the whole ''different lives different experiences causes different reactions'' thing#im an abuse aurvivor and when s2 first came out kali was INCREDIBLY triggering for me#and it took a long long time for me to work through that#but just? thats why it bothers me when ppl post shit attacking anyone who dislikes her#bc even tho i do like her now#i also rememver how it felt like 6 months ago to be having panic attacks and mental breakdowns every day#bc her character just hit me in such a sensitive spot#so yeah i think anyone who treats themselves as morally superior for liking any character is a dickhead#you dont know peoples lives or what theyve been through#you dont know why someone may dislike a character you love#treating yourself like youre so much better or so much more forgiving is just immature#for as long as im in fandoms ill always defend the fsct that people are allowed to dislike ANY character without judgement#and they shouldnt need to justofy themswlves to u#stranger things#kali prasad
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