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Update!
Great this is all still going on, but also to add on, the fucking BATTLE OF YORKTOWN is happening in my intestines
Guys. I bruised my fucking ribs. I can't laugh or talk loud it HURTS like hell...
Also my legs and back are so sore I can barely stand LMAO HELP
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lord have mercy we must stay focused
#HELLO??!??#lewis hamilton#hes actually so#lh44#hes so fine#oml#literally paused mid refrence search to post cause#sir lewis hamilton the man that you are
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EUCLID ANALYSIS.
Told you guys it was coming, didn't I? I apologise that this has taken a bit longer than expected, my mental health hit me like a bullet train, but I do hope it's sufficient.
Part one -> You're already here!
Part two -> Line by line analysis part 1
Part three -> Line by line analysis part 2
Part four -> Musical/intrumental notes
Part five -> The Night in Sleep Token
Part six -> Conclusion
Please note this is a general analysis. Although I do go into theories, both my own and others, this is just general thoughts. Also note when I speak of Vessel, I mean Vessel as a character, not the person, unless I specifically state so.
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Let's start off with the basics. ‘Euclid’ is the anglicised version of the Greek name Eukleídes (Εὐκλείδης), mainly known via the ancient Greek mathematician Euclid of Alexandria, who is seen as the ‘father of geometry’, and most famous for his work on symmetry. Its general definition is something or someone who is renowned and or glorious (A) and the lesser known definition is something that is a copy of the same (B) (taken from Euclid’s ideas on symmetry), which we’ll come back to in a bit.
However, there is another Euclid in history that we’ll be referencing; Euclid of Megara. This Euclid, similar to our mathematician, was an ancient Greek Socratic (having been a pupil of Socrates) philosopher. I’ll be taking part of a text out of his Wikipedia article since his ideas have been explained thoroughly there.
(we'll be coming back to him soon)
First off, this is an incredibly interesting choice of name for a song. Outside of someone's maths and philosophy class, this name doesn't exist to most, so the fact it's been chosen at all is intriguing.
Vessel has shown time and time again he enjoys sometimes elaborate references in his art, an example being chemistry and biology in TPWBYT (most notable would probably be ‘Telomeres’), so, I think it would be easy to say that, whether it be a reference to Euclid the Mathematician or Euclid the philosopher, that said reference is understood and intended by Vessel.
So, let's start with our mathematician, shall we?
What I find interesting about Euclid of Alexandria is that his life and existence outside of his work on geometry is almost completely unknown. There's almost nothing known of him, as a person, other than where he spent half of his career (Alexandria; Egypt, hence his title), where he may have studied (Platonic academy) and a general idea of when he lived (around 300BC). What is known about this insanely famous man who created the foundations of symmetry is incredibly barebones. People take Euclid at face value for his work, just like Vessel (both as an artist, and a character).
Further, we, as listeners, don't have much of an understanding of who Vessel is other than being a mouthpiece of a deity known as Sleep, someone once human now grasping at the threads of humanity and someone sharing some of his struggles in life (both with Sleep and unknown people). Like Euclid, he is barebones, we take him at face value; a vessel. He is both a mouthpiece for Sleep, a mouthpiece for his own emotions (obviously) and a mouthpiece for us. His experiences transcend being just his, due to his anonymity, therefore allowing us to connect and express our own experiences. It's music for the sake of music; expression.
Now, having talked through Euclid as a person, it's time to talk about Euclid and his symmetry. Symmetry in shapes is 'reflections, rotations, translations, and combinations of these basic operations. Under an isometric transformation, a geometric object is said to be symmetric if, after transformation, the object is indistinguishable from the object before the transformation- a copy of the same’. So, of course, this means shapes like squares, rectangles, parallelograms and circles. Circles are a representation of infinity, wholeness, unity and loops. What does Euclid do? Loop itself (starts and ends with B major, which also happens to be the same chord that TNDNBTG starts with), and loops the three albums together, musically and lyrically.
Now, onto Euclid of Megara.
Euclid was born in Megara, Athens and was a follower of Socrates (sneaking into Athens to hear him speak, and he was also present during his death). He is most known for his philosophy that good is the knowledge of simply being and that the opposite of good does not exist, aka evil. The Good is described to be a perfect, eternal, and changeless Form, existing outside space and time. A form of Heaven without a God.
This idea could be linked lore-wise with Sleep Token; Sleep could, in a way, be The Good literally. Bliss. Further, with the idea that there is no actual opposite of good, then how can anything be bad? How can Sleep, as a deity, have bad intentions if there is no actual evil?
So far, with these two notable figures in mind, we can perceive Euclid as one of two ways (and there are more ways to come). Euclid can be seen as quite literally being a form of symmetry; a parallel that Vessel lays his life on because it brings all of the produced albums, all of his stories, together. Or, we can think of Euclid as Vessel. This brings me to @euclidsvessel's post on their theory on Euclid; what if Euclid was Vessel’s name before he became a vessel?
The theory that Euclid could be Vessel’s old name is not only extremely insightful, but very plausible as well. They explained their points very well in their original post, and I don't want to repeat what they’ve already said, so I do implore you to go read that! It's not detrimental to needing to understand this post, but I highly recommend it. Despite this, I am here to both support their argument and bring my own comparison. Take a look at the cover art for Euclid:
Let me repeat the lesser-known definition of Euclid; a copy of the same. A clone. A replacement. Held in the right hand is the decapitated head of Vessel's old (2nd gen.) mask. Specifically, the one that covers his mouth; the version that relinquishes the most amount of humanity. The album art is a representation of change portrayed in a symbolically gory way. Beheading, depending on the era you’re working from, symbolises both vengeance as well as a form of purification. By cutting off the head, you remove any ‘unholy’ thoughts. It's also among one of the most horrific and humiliating ways of killing someone (since it was typically done publicly, and sometimes the heads were placed on spikes of battlements as a warning).
Furthermore, there's a theory that's popped up a couple of times, lore-wise, that Vessel is not the first person to be turned into a vessel of Sleep, and he certainly won't be the last. So, considering the literal album art illustrates a replacement of Vessel, I’d say that theory is pretty much confirmed. In conclusion, the album art can either be interpreted as how Vessel will eventually be discarded and replaced by another vessel, or how Vessel himself will change, for better or for worse; clawing out of his own skin to become “someone new”.
So, to compare the idea of Euclid being Vessel’s old name, and to create the third perception of what or rather, who, Euclid is, what if Euclid will be the eventual replacement for Vessel?
#I would like to mention that the idea of a 'Euclid class object's floated around Reddit theories for Euclid as well#said objects are 'anomalies that are either insufficiently understood or inherently unpredictable'#I didn't include this because it's from SCP and I thought it highly unlikely that it could be a refrence to that#but then again; a lot of the lyrics refrence hardware and un-understandable things so I thought I'd say something about it#masaive thank you to Nine for spurring me on to continue writing this and eventually post it with their theory post#just a very big thank you to everybody on ST Tumblr who post any analysis bits because you all inspire me#with that said#I hope these will be interesting for you all <3#sleep token#st#mel's rambles#euclid#euclid sleep token#sleep token analysis#vessel#vessel sleep token#tmbte#sleep token tmbte#hiding in here that I felt a bit like Hamilton writing these#'John Jay got sick after writing five...James Madison wrote twenty nine...Hamilton wrote the oTHER FIFTY ONE'#apologies to anybody who reads that lmao
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“If I can prove that I never played with those silly balls, will you promise not to tell another soul what you saw?”
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My Thoughts On The Little Mermaid Live Action — The Scuttlebutt
It’s not so bad.
The Scuttlebutt didn’t feel so out of place. Out of context it feels weird but with the context not so much. Because Scuttles mostly blabbers in the movie.
The rap wasn’t bad in my opinion.
Also, I found Daveed Diggs’ (he voices Sebastian in the live action) rap at the end of the song to hype up Ariel to get ready to be kinda similar to Daveed Diggs role in Hamilton as Lafayette when he was telling Washington to get his right hand man back for the war. If this was intentional, it felt like a nice reference.
#the scuttlebutt#daveed diggs#marquis de lafayette#Lafayette#Hamilton#refrence#the little mermaid live action#the little mermaid#live action#live action the little mermaid#thoughts#my thoughts
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The day Coran decided Larmina wasn’t allowed to attend speeches anymore. (Kill Joy)
Allura: You are out gunned!
Larmina: WHAT
Allura: Out manned!
Larmina: WHAT
Allura: Out numbered out-
Larmina: PAY YOUR FUCKING TAXES
Allura: Put your weapons down on my command!
Larmina: HAND THEM OVER
Allura: This is Lady Larmina, My Heir to Arus’s thrown!
Larmina: BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
#gotta love Hamilton Refrences#The Level headed Princess#and her unstable heir#vf larmina#vf#vforce11#voltron force 2011#voltron#voltron force#incorrect quote#vf allura#VF Larmina and Allura
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Why are you upset?
I'm not.
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𝔸𝕝𝕝 𝕄𝕪 𝕄𝕦𝕥𝕦𝕒𝕝𝕤
long ass list below cut (btw thanks @wretched-meadow for the idea!)
@vincentclark65900: My very first mutual!! Haven’t talked to you in a while, how ya doing?
@salty-and-spiraling: My #1 Dragon Prince yapper
@polskasroka: EPIC yapper #1 (love ya pooks)
@that-0ne-sam: Gimmick blog! 60% of my dash lmao
@pennyroyald: could go on for so long how much I love her platonically. Take care of yourself girly.
@orchid-merryweather: pooks :3
@jaydove-writes: Absolute chaos. No idea what is going on over there and I’m HERE FOR IT
@steph-schuyler: HAMILTON HEhE (occasionally PJO too! Yayy!!)
@iliveinyourfridge67: found them through this post. SDV and PJO fan!!
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@thatgayash: Not doing well mentally. Get better soon Ash.
@imsooooooootired: absolute chaos gremlin <3
@can-i-explode-now: #i want garlic bread is so real lmao
@lillianemerald: MiRacOuLoUs! SiMpLy tHe bEsT- I WaS A GIRL IN A VILLAGE DOING ALRIGHT-
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@manicali: AHHhH!!! MANIC!! REBLOGS AND INTERACTS WITH ALMOST ALL OF MY POSTS/REBLOGS- *spontaneously combusts*
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@kk-cats: When did KK spawn in bro? I legitimately don’t remember when we became moots. But our nicknames are similar so.. yeah!
@the-red-hoodlum: Deadpool ig? Blog gets a little real sometimes, but their neat.
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@nixthemarshadowreal: 🐝🐝🐝
@aflairforthemelodramaticc: Stopped her from committing suicide :o! Also just realized that they and @jaydove-writes know each other? Neat. (Ps, when tf did you change your pfp I was looking through my moots and got so confused like who is this then I saw the username and I was like ohhh)
@wretched-meadow: SAME TIMEZONE YAYYY!! Big fan of their Valgrace rp!
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@mentallyunstablequeen101: SOLANGELO AHhhH!!!( me too bestie, we both unstable-)
@emdabitchass: CAVETOWN RAAHH-
@gryph-the-condor: BAN-ATHENA! AU!!!!(just realized we were moots lmao)
@bunnybryson:CONANGRAYCONANGRAYCONANGRAYCONANGRAYCONANGRAYCONANGRAYCONANGRAYCONA-
@123letsgobestie: Met in Valgrace community.
@xxmychemicalmonsterzxx: Met with wattpad refrences lmao
@demigod-jack-hearth: moots with a shit ton of my moots so likely y’all know them
Whew, That took a while! This has been in progress for… brb going to check. FIVE FUCKING DAYS??!!! Love ya moots.
Edit: NEW MOOT EVERY ONE SAY HELLO TO @xxmychemicalmonsterzxx
EDIT #2: WELCOME @demigod-jack-hearth
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"Fair warning, I've never been good with dead lifts," she warned. Holding one webbed hand, she uses her other arm to help hoist Suiryu onto the lip of the tub. The effort made her tremble, but it wasn't bad. Kaya mentally noted to take up running or something.
Just as carefully, she helps the siren slide into the water. It makes a small splash. Kaya sits up and takes a breath. "Wait here. I'm going to make a call."
*In the sink*
- @suiryu-the-siren
"Uhm..."
Kaya grabs her hairbrush and slowly pokes the unfamiliar creature who has taken to residing in her bathroom.
"What in the realms...?"
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I recently showed a friend of mine a meme,
I hadn't focused on everything in the meme, but the title was like
"is that a dsmp refrence?"
With a bunch of things that could be refrenced, as a joke, to the dsmp. Hamilton, blue sheep, compas, etc.
She then looks up in confession and was like
"A red egg?"
and I got war flashbacks.
Dsmp fans will get me here.
#The turtle talks#the turtle speaks#dream smp#dsmp#dsmp lore#dream smp lore#o7 dsmp#lore#not an incorrect quote#the egg#dsmp eggpire#etc
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Solara, Helena, Tiara! Work!
Birthday revenge on @thoughtfullyrainynightmare for artfight
Refrenced from the Schuyler sisters from Hamilton the Musical
Tiara belongs to @purpled-royalty
I'm too deep in my Hamilton hyperfixation again 😂
#Happy birthday Laura!!!#black clover#black clover fanart#fanart#black clover oc#kalola's art#helena drazel#solara equinox#tiara kiyoto#lola's art fight#art fight 2024#art fight#lola's attacks#not my oc#Artfight2024#Artfight 2024#my oc#lola's revenge#hamilton musical#hamilton fanart#schuyler sisters
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stream three in my rewatch has started!
1:14 another hamilton refrence!! and by that I mean someone donated a video of hamilton (donated means media share thing)
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HAIIII !!! welcom 2 my blog >_<
it’s just me being silli and sharing my feelings and thoughts !
im ronni, im trans and go by he/they and i have autism <3
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guess who loves my chemical romance? meeee!! i also frequently listen to lemon demon, pierce the veil, weezer, falling in reverse, fall out boy, green day, deftones, chappell roan, and anything from my favorite musicals which I'll get into later on in the intro :3
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i don't watch many movies as i have difficulty focusing but some that i watched and loved are ironman (1,2,& 3), deadpool (1,2, & the new one), all of the spiderman movies, and tons of others which are basically all marvel. i am *obsessed* with musicals mainly heathers (and the movie ive watched it 11 times), ride the cyclone, Hamilton, 36 questions, and the phantom of the opera!
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i love playing roblox, mainly playing dress to impress and sorta gettin back into royale high (I DONT SUPPORT THE CREATORS ACTIONS.) i draw and write often aswell and have written multiple fanfics. i do a lot of baking which will probably get posted on here too!
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⚠️NONE OF THE DIVIDERS OR BLINKIES ARE MINE, THERE WAS TOO MANY PPL TO TAG IF YOURE CURIOUS WHO MADE IT JST COMMENT AND ILL FIND THEM
i hope this post made your day 20% cooler (hope someone gets the refrence) and you should totally follow me , bye !!
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SHIT NOW I CANT WATCH ANYTHING WITHOUT HAMILTON REFRENCE
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These are the writing sessions where having two screens is fun. Love being able to refrence the manuscript and transcript of this Hamilton letter to be included in Chapter 25 at the same time 😊
It’ll forever be insane to me that I can just look at most of these manuscripts—and their transcripts—for free. So much respect goes out to all the people who’ve worked to make these materials available. This stupidly ambitious project wouldn’t exist without them.
#grace’s random ramble#the american icarus#TAI#alexander hamilton#historical fiction#old letters#historical letters#amrev history
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That was all canomical DSMP. The last bit specifically was made canon by a Technoblade stream which could have been non-canon.
If it wasn't for the random bit of huge lore in the middle.
Also because of Hamilton refrences C!Fundy (C! is used for Charecter) is trans
fuckening
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