#gwynevere ds1

[chaospyromancy]

save me gwynevere princess of sunlight (she will ghost me after this)

[besithia]

the siblings wip

[ponderousorb]

My Gwynevere and Rosaria side by side to ref how their designs mirror in the games!

[x1702x]

ill never forgive... ill never. What the fuck did they do to my girl WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk

[mensiscollar]

can't believe i only just found out about Her

[brightlydust]

Fashion Souls

[knightscanfeeltoo]

Gwynevere singing some Karaoke while Malenia is just staring at her, feeling Jealous and In Love...

(I don't wanna keep drawing Gwynevere but I want More Drawings of her and Malenia Together or Malenevere and her Dad made her wear the "Sunlight 4 Life" Shirt, BTW...)

[smbhax]

Dark Souls Remastered (PC/Steam)

Session: https://youtu.be/tsX7W1VR_0U

[drenched-in-sunlight]

im today year old when i discover the Princess Guard covenant symbol (DS1) literally has a depiction of Gwynevere that looks just like Marika 😭😭

and that's not even the only parallel:

Divine Blessing - Blessing of Marika

all the healing spells

Princess of Sunlight - "the Erdtree was once as warm as the gentle sun"

Twin Princes being implied to be Gwynevere's sons (or grandsons) - DLC final boss

Angelic faith of Lothric (with the Divine Pillars of Light spell that is literally a less damaging version of Light of Miquella incantation) was found by a holy maiden who is also implied to be either Gwynevere's daughter / or granddaughter

im so in love with the idea that they literally just took the one character that was so underdeveloped in Dark Souls (and the butt of the "faith build is viable" joke) & made her THE character of all time with a perfect story from start to finish in Elden Ring (& make faith build ACTUALLY viable too). that's so peak.

(and if you want to broaden it a bit more, there's parallel between Messmer and Halflight Spear of the Church too - a spear-wielding warrior guarding a slumbering princess at the edge of the Abyss, like how Messmer guarded Marika's village - her people's final resting place, that is situated right above Abyss region.

also Messmer - Manus parallel: a man losing someone he loves and so his humanity went wild and he succumbed to the Abyssal darkness. but despite it all, at the core, he's still a viscous, lukewarm lump of gentle humanity, eternally finding something dear that he had lost.)

[navlaanchair]

trying to associate DS2 deities with DS1's

so we all know DS2 deities are just DS1 deities with a different name, so in this post i'll try to associate all of them, based on my interpretations.

Nehma, Goddess of Love = Fina/Gwynevere (obvious one)

Caitha, Goddess of Tears = Velka, Goddess of Sin

Galib, God of Disease = Gravelord Nito (again, very obvious)

Kremmel, God of Struggle = another variant of the Nameless King, similiar to Faraam

Evlana, Goddess of the Hunt = Pharis the Archer

Hanleth, Goddess of Bliss = i actually don't know (lmao what if MCLOYF)

Nahr Alma, God of Blood = a god invented by the Old Iron King

Zinder, God of Desire = so like, there's a similiar god in DS2 named Zandroe, God of Greed, they're basically two sides of the same coin... and they're also two serpents... either they're the same person, or maybe they're Frampt and Kaathe? or two other primordial serpents who came to Drangleic? hmmm

Quella, God of Dream = maybe Gwyndolin?

Caffrey, Goddess of Fortune = Fina(?)

that's it, your thoughts?

[ponderousorb]

Gwynevere and Gertrude - Madonna and Child DS1/DS3/Archthrones Fanart

[misplacedgamer]

Ash. Holy shit. Hidetaka Miyazaki is OBSESSED with big ladies that don’t wear shoes and can kick your ass. ESPECIALLY in DS1.

Also if you think that art is horny, here’s her in game model

Just wanted to show you what that Miyazaki post was talking about bestie xD

Dark Souls can be really horny when it wants to

[katyspersonal]

Gotta point this out for certain though, SOTE is definitely not the first time Fromsoft was creating the story with the direction of "well we thought it was the final draft, but we then decided to continue it which resulted in a retcon that makes it awkward"! Dark Souls 3 IS this thing too!

Dark Souls 2 pushed very hard for the idea that Drangleic was build on the ruins of countless kingdoms that raised and fell for absurd amount of cycles on the earth where Lordran stood all this time ago! This is why there are so many weapons and sorceries owned by characters from Dark Souls 1 "whose names were long forgotten" and more importantly, this is why "Old Ones" are reincarnations of Gwyn, Nito, Witch of Izalith and Seath! Not the first reincarnations, mind you, as Vendrick also beat them up back in his time! Literally the "How many times do we have to teach you, old man" moment hdhygnm

But, Dark Souls 3 kinda retconned this into a situation where all these magics, objects and legends just mysteriously got washed into Drangleic through all these traveling people, and "names being forgotten" is just a severe case of long distance and lack of communication with their places of origin... all while Anor Londo and Lordran literally still exist this whole time and only very few people had enough braincells to just go there ghthfyh (Aldia to convince Lothric to not be a Melina, Bearer of the Curse for some reasons but they told the world about Lucatiel, Creighton moving in Irithyll and.... fuckin Gilligan to become father to Sulyvahn, it isn't even a joke..)

And it makes the Old Ones + Daughters of Dark really funny because it just makes the original Four Lords and Knuckles Seath still end up in the same place after having somehow traveling away from Lordran despite not being quite themselves anymore. It is like fate. They are always destined to meet again only to be beaten by some human. Red strings of HATE.

And yet, it isn't as if DS2 and DS3 are just two variants that are both sequels to DS1 and you just choose which variant you like more! Dark Souls 3 calls back to Dark Souls 2 too much, DS2 events happened and their aftermath is in DS3 plot. The thing is.. here, Dark Souls 3 existing after all this doesn't make the overall trilogy story bad, but it does make it awkward, and absurd in some places! How everyone "forgotten" people who literally lived overseas and are still remembered there. (And imagine how much more awkward it would be if they DID include Patches in DS2 like they planned to! xD Also more fuel for me to not consider Queen of Lothric to be Gwynevere as to not create a character who ran from her problems twice, from the same problem :p)

I guess my point here is like... Fromsoft just kind of does it, and they might do it again. Dark Souls 2 was developed with the idea in mind that it would be it, every character in it hammers it into your brain, but then Dark Souls 3 happened! And it good that it did, the whole game is a meta commentary on what happens when people don't let the story end! And Elden Ring, by Miyazaki's admission, was created with cropping a lot of lore, plotlines and some characters (like Messmer) from original vision as the game was already too massive... but then they decided to make DLC with those ideas anyways! That likewise created retcons of some ideas that had previously fell into their places very neatly and made stories of Miquella, Malenia, Radahn and Marika flow less conveniently, but! they!! didn't even know at the moment!!! that they'd get to make the DLC!!!

I think they always could just do it again; give their product everything just in case if it flops and sequel/DLC doesn't get made, so the standalone thing feels self-suffucient! Fromsoft just looks like they don't take calculated risks but always act through the prism of "assume it already didn't sell well", and never abandoned this philosophy even while making base Elden Ring! Despite how much their reputation was proceeding them by the time! And honestly, when I understand there is likely pattern, it is hard to be mad at their decisions or how awkward they make the story. Like, yeah, sometimes the "the product made as if it already fropped" and "the surprise sequel/DLC" bits are practically Frankensteined rather than blend harmonically, but that's their thing! It isn't a perfect philosophy of creating their stories, but it is individual, and no company or specific writer could ever be perfect. (I think to truly enjoy someone's unique approach is to accept the sharp, inconvenient bits too rather than trying to "fix" it into perfection, but that's just my perspective on creativity process)

[ladygwyndolin]

i wonder what would happen if i did a no talking ng+ run of ds1? since i can level up and will already have a fully upgraded weapon i think it would be more viable and thus more fun to try. idk could be a way to make ds1 more enjoyable tho it would mean making a lot of enemies. my main obstacle would be losing access to the darkmoon covenant by shooting the gwynevere illusion to get the lordvessel and that would make me sad. i could always break the rule just for that by throwing a modifier into the run called "it's my run and i can do whatever i want with it" which would be a neat addition

[mailperson]

Some more DS1 ranting and thoughts, some of these criticisms aren’t really fair since it was basically the first/almost the first of its line

-so many areas just have No Swag. Like yeah Blighttown is terribly designed gameplay wise but it LOOKS and FEELS cool. Undead Burg is such a boring and uninteresting first major area. Places like the painted world or New Londo are almost close to being cool in scenery concept but you either can’t see anything or it all just kinda blends into generic stone fortress ruins. The good areas hold the core of the fromsoft charm you see a lot in the other games tho.

-a lot of dud bosses that are just kind of there. Elden ring has the excuse of having over 200 bosses so some had to be bland or uninteresting, but so many might as well be any other monster from a roster of big monsters or bad guys and it wouldn’t matter

-Definitely has the bones and structure of the really interesting fromsoft lore style, but still very clearly shallower compared to later titles, a lot of lost potential it feels like.

-it feels like you run into fellow undead more than you do hunters or tarnished, even though elden ring probably has more friendly NPCs comparatively it makes DS1 feel nice. it’s a nice feeling.

-lots of bland uninteresting generic fantasy flavor which detracts from the more unique design choices. Elden ring suffered a teeny tiny bit from this with limgrave being the first area, but not enough to be a criticism I’d actually hold against it

-this game is ridden with Straight Man Disorder. Why does every boss woman have to breast boobily across the arena. I like the concept and execution of Gwynevere’s whole deal and place in the story if she didn’t have the trite “fertility goddess anime implausible chest” schtick.