#guys I'm thinking about sksw idk if you can tell
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rotisseries · 1 year ago
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skyward sword was such a crazy insane game to make like ok what if there was a story about a great evil and a goddess. and that goddess locked away that great evil, but she knew it would come back, and it would need to be defeated again. and what if that goddess knew that for this impossible task, she would need a loyal soldier. so she reincarnates. she reincarnates into a human girl, because the best way, the most reliable way, to get a loyal soldier, is love. and a goddess is respected, and idolized, and revered, but a goddess isn't loved. not like a human girl is. so she reincarnates. and she is loved genuinely and wholeheartedly, by her family, by her peers, and most importantly, by her best friend.
and what if there was a story about a boy and a girl. this one boy loves her so much, that when she falls from the sky, crashing to the earth, and into her immortal destiny, he follows her. and she runs, because she has a destiny, because she's finding out she is part of a divine plot, she and the boy are pawns in a goddess' war plans. did she ever love him did he ever love her or were they just being manipulated by the goddess. SHE'S the goddess. was SHE just manipulating him this whole time? "I'm still your zelda" but is she really? does she know it for sure? she doubts it and doubts it and runs and runs and he keeps chasing her. and she locks herself in time to defeat this great evil and he watches her do it. and he fights because he loves her and he defeats the evil and he gets her back and they're happy.
but what if there was a story about a goddess and a great evil. the evil cursed them for the rest of time. their descendants will never be safe there will always be evil to fight and she'll always be running and sacrificing and he'll always be chasing and fighting.
what if there was a story about a goddess and a great evil. what if there was a story about a girl and a boy. what if it was about the innate mortality and humanity of love and the act of loving. ok. at the walls of nintendo hq
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layraket · 6 days ago
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I haven't done the update analysis the past month, so here it is!
I love the boys going into dungeons, and this update made me very happy!
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now that I'm remembering it, they may or may not have gotten the map of this dungeon, if the second option is true its just Twilight guessing from the ruins
and isn't that so cool, this guy literaly is figuring out an ancient structure by just the ruins it left in the future. The photography memory this man has
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i know this might not contribute anything but i want to check if i am not the only one that sees each one with a different emotion jksfjkds
left is sad, central is happy and right is angry, idk love when objects has faces
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alright there's something happening between Legend and Wind, its clear
They haven't talked that much after their discussion in the Sunset arc, so there might be things that haven't been finished or that we didn't get to see between them
idk he seemed like that img "almost got into a fist fight with a 13 yo" or smth like that
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Legend has learned a lot from his adventures, memorizing common dungeon puzzles and how to solve them, maybe he even got this puzzle wrong once, that would explain how he already knows about this problem and that can't be undone. I doubt the goddesses would throw their hero with a manual for dungeons
Also Wild has been very quiet during this update
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Time still worries about Twilight, he just recovered from an injury that almost kill him, getting his strength back from that is impressive, but still he isn't sure if his descendant is completely healed
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mf moving a whole block by himself if this isn't prove that he got his strength at least mostly back idk what it is
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remember when i said that Wild had been very quiet? well
He doesn't know how dungeons exactly work, yes Warriors doesn't either, but Wild is more used to go with whatever solution he can find
The captain follows stragety, Wild follows luck, if there's something that can probably work he will take that opportunity
Although, he knows that maybe in here that will not work, but he still wants to feel useful and learn from this strange area for him
Wind telling him this might mean two things; 1. For the space of the corridor they would just be getting in the way and this is more for technical mobility, or 2. They don't really need their help right now, why bother to offer themselves if they will get told to move from the way?
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something that i just noticed: is that a mirror? If so, i feel this dungeon will have some light puzzles, or maybe is just decoration, who knows
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This place seems very related to owls, these birds being seen as a symbol of Wisdom, and i have seen a lot of people relating it with the Zeldas
with how things are going and Jojo's words, you all maybe aren't that far from the truth
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again, mirror indicating that maybe this is a light puzzle, also that this structure is too similar to Hylia's statue in sksw, maybe is related?
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not much to say here. love these two.
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its very interesting (at least for me) that Four is the one that we see in this pannel, yes maybe he was the closest and thats why, but if we try to give it a more detailed explanation this might just reference him not trusting the magic that Twi uses to transform, he still thinks that its dangerous and would turn agains't them if they aren't careful
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obviously this is where they split, going together will make dificult traverse the corridors with how things went the past update wiht the skulltula
also holy shit can we appreciate the backgrounds? i love the perspective its so cool
alr folks now is time for my fav pannels/parts of the update without further context!
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i love when theyre small 🤏look at em
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beautiful update im happy to finally share my thoughts i've been having them for a while jksfhdjk
as always art credits to @linkeduniverse!
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sorry for hopping into ur ask box i jst dont wanna clog peoples dashs lmao. anyways AUAUAAA thats. :/ albw and alttp are different incarnations in the same hyrule what....... a big reason i havent gotten into LU is because it feels like it reduces the links to extremely specific personality types (like. sksw is the sweet one and time is the stern one and wind is childish and so on and so forth) and while thats not, like, terrible, it does permeate SO MUCH fanon content that it gets a little :[ sometimes. sky is the one that bothers me the most bc if u play past the beginning and watch his dialogue he actually gets more and more like, short and snappy and weary which makes sense bc it is a 38 hour game and his childhood friend tells him he wont see her until he fulfills a destiny he did not pursue so ofc hes DRAGGING himself thru it but !! no one thinks of that they just kinda use the LU char and thats that. idk i certainly hold no ill will to the creator or fans or anythin like that i jst wish one persons interpretation(s) didnt overshadow everyone elses ................. also i know bonus links but what were thos other ones u named !!!!!!?!
YEAH they are very much different links but I guess jojo (the creator) didn't want to deal with another character? None of the other links are combo'ed as far as I'm aware (except for maybe four? I'm not sure if he's supposed to just be mc/fs or if he's supposed to be fsa too)
Yeah they really are reduced down to very little :/ especially in fanon sometimes. notable example include: legend as the snarky/mean/broody/angsty one, sky as a sleepy soft boy, time as the responsible/parental one, etc etc. I have many many problems with this but ESPECIALLY with sky because I am incapable of being normal about anything in that game like. He's not? He's really not? 10 minutes into the game you get "nice hair" and um. I don't know how to break this to you but um. HE SAYS THINGS LIKE THIS A LOT. There's just... everything with Scrapper ("not that guy") and also.
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Yeah. I think it's safe to say that he's very willing to fuck with people. (And the chandelier breaking and just-- yeah)
(I could refute the sleepy part too but then I would probably write a whole rant about how he's really not and also how it's unfair to him because he would be the "lazy" one and uhhh I can't say anything else bc I'll just work myself up)
Honestly just as an au in general its not THAT great. I would put it solidly in the "it's okay" category so it's really NOT deserving of how it's taken over EVERYTHING (fun fact-- have you ever tried to look up loz fics on ao3? Well if you haven't, ITS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO FILTER IT ALL OUT. botw and lu fics SOLIDLY dominate a good portion of all the fics and-- man I just wanted to read some link's awakening stuff). Everywhere I go, I see lu names on posts that are not lu (there's using it once as a distinguisher but there comes a point when it's obvious that's not why you're doing it), and if you look up fics with more than one link in them you WILL get lu names and characterization even when explicitly stated to not be lu. Also, and correct me if I'm wrong, but. The hero titles? I'm pretty sure those don't exist (beyond hero of time, which seems to be a general thing), except MAYBE in the context of the names of the clothes you can get in botw with amiibo so like. Bad excuse, buddy
Anyway sorry for ranting I. Did not mean to do that. The other aus I mentioned are @/linked-maze and @/ageless-soul-au. The first is a comic, the other is a fic (which does bear some resemblances with lu at first glance but uh-- yeah it's not (if the alttp and albw combo bugs you a lot they do the same thing). Certainly not my favorite but its not bad)
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illegiblehandwriting1 · 1 year ago
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I don't think Sky and Zelda would actually tell people about the whole Hylia thing, at first! Obviously, they would tell Groose and stuff, and i think they would tell Gaepora as well. Gaepora would probably help them figure out a way to break the news gently so they don't cause mass hysteria. I don't really know, though!! I've never thought about it before! I suppose that over the course of generations, people would begin to forget how Hylia brought them all to the sky and saved them and everything. The Goddess Statue and the Sealed Temple would probably fall into disrepair, I guess? Because they've spent so long on the Surface and Hylia hasn't shown her face, i guess they would probably turn their attention towards the Golden Goddesses who made the Surface, rather than Hylia who made Skyloft, because that impacts them more directly so it would be more dependent on where they live?? idk i haven't studied mass changes in religion due to migration in depth, but i'm sure there's something there
mmmmmm as for how Hyrule became a monarchy: no clue!! but consider....it starts out as a small village, people are doing what they did back on Skyloft but with the new dangers on the Surface, they become more close-knit and then begin to multiply like rats because that's how humans work, the village grows into a more fortified town, then a city, and people are like "so how are we deciding on what's okay to do and what's not etc etc" because more people = more conflicting ideas/worldviews, and maybe after generations, the events of sksw are, like, idolized and stuff, and sky becomes an unreachable historical figure rather than the silly guy who gave piggyback rides to little kids and kikwis, and either his descendants are elected due to their bloodline or they take over using a sort of "mandate of heaven" type thing but they actually do pretty good and make everything fair, so people just let them?? genuinely no clue though, i'm just spitballing lol.
I completely get what you mean by the whole "religion being fact" thing! we are on the same page w/ that, you put is so well! The lack of intent thing makes so much sense, YES.
Oh! btw i think i can solve your history problem. it might change your worldview a little though, so bear with me a sec. They do keep track of history, but no one cares enough to know it. That's what's really interesting to me! Skyloft certainly has the books and the knowledge, and that is made clear from how Sky needs Gaepora to tell him how to open the Thunderhead, get to the Triforce, etc. The books are right there in his office! History was probably pretty important when Skyloft was first raised, but as time went on, it was neglected because nothing ever happened. The point of Skyloft was to be a haven for humans until Demise could be defeated: a perfect, peaceful place to live. No one ever wanted for anything, because everything was within reach. For heaven's sake, a test for advanced knights is just hitting a bunch of targets within a time limit! When you have a perfect life, you stop caring about what came before, because you don't need to. Skyloft was designed to be paradise from the very beginning - Gorko's idea of Skyloft is white and gold, endless wealth and comfort, full of holy figures, and that sounds like paradise, despite the fact that Skyloft and the Surface haven't had contact since Skyloft was raised. So my first theory is that no one knows history because no one cares enough to look. It's only Gaepora that cares, and while you could say that it's a hobby, we could stay off the beaten path here.
I would like to say that Gaepora is a good guy. We can all agree on that. He is more than happy to share information with Sky. He's very open with information, and when people ask, his teacher insincts kick in and he's happy to start educating. But he only does that when people ask. If people don't know the right questions to ask, they'll never learn about any of the secrets hiding right under their noses. This is uninentionally info hoarding. Gaepora even knows about the Goddess Sword and what will happen when it starts glowing, though that one is admittedly a secret, probably so hysteria doesn't ensue. It is passed down through oral tradition though and is stated to have missed a few key points, so I'm not going to claim they have perfectly accurate records, but there are records.
At the beginning of the game, Zelda says she heard about the Surface from her father's books, and wonders if it's really true. She and her father are the only ones on the island who even question whether Skyloft is all there is, and that's only because they have read these books. What if other people would be curious, if they just knew the possibility was real? So here's a question i pose to you: what if, when Skyloft was first raised, people decided to keep the specifics quiet? Hylia wanted a paradise. What if they believe they can create that paradise by controlling the information and history? What if Skyloft is nothing but a shiny front over a problematic society?
idk if that's true or has any basis whatsoever, but uhhhh sorry for the ramble about a dystopian Skyloft lol. They do keep some sort of records, so fear not! It's just that no one gives a shit because their lives are so perfectly dull and nothing ever changes or happens.
no sorries about sharing your hcs, really!!! it is SO fun to read them and talk to other people and stuff, so seriously my dude, feel free to ramble about whatever you'd like to me cuz i will probably respond with equal enthusiasm lol.
(preistess impa priestess impa priestess impa I LOVE THAT I'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF IT BUT IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE BRRRRRRRR-)
hope you're having a lovely day, this is a lot of fun :D
wanna ask this cause i really like your fics, and wanna see how you think on this 👀 so a lot of fanon has other links being bitter towards hylia, but wouldn’t it make more sense for sky to have a bitterness/fear of Hylia? considering it was confirmed to his face that he was legit MADE to be a hero, fight demise and had his entire journey manipulated by hylia? and would that cause conganitive dissonance with his relationship with zelda?👀👀👀
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you just asked, like, one of my favorite questions ever rjghskgbvjkdehgijk sorry if this gets...long
Ok ok ok ok I COMPLETELY agree with you!!!! I think sky is a man of extremes - he either loves you or he despises you. For the most part, he adores everyone (other than a few key people cough cough ghirahim and demise cough cough). His whole convo with Zelda right before she sealed herself away fucked with him SO MUCH, because suddenly he is trying to cope about the fact that the goddess his entire culture idolizes manipulated him, and what makes it worse is that Zelda is the reincarnation of her.
ANYway, i think he absolutely hates Hylia, yeah! I think he despises her and is so bitter towards her and would be completely fine if she straight-up died! In my mind, he doesn't like any deity, really. He's had enough interactions with gods that he is absolutely comfortable telling them they all suck and he hates them lmao, but that's a tangent. It makes a lot more sense to me if he hated Hylia, but what might make others to disagree is the fact that Zelda was Hylia. Fortunately, I have a solution for that as well!!
When Zelda talks to him right before she seals herself, she mentions that she didn't know, she was happy to be his zelda, etc. So in my brain, after Demise dies, she has a full-on identity crisis (and probably also a "oh my gosh Link probably hates me" Moment cuz she knows him so well) where she's not sure who she is, if she's a goddess or just Zelda, cuz now she has all these memories that she remembers but she didn't experience them (Sun and Wild would be besties and you can't change my mind lol). So i think that Sky couldn't hate Zelda, and so they both work it out and they can both separate Hylia from Zelda and see that they're two different people. So would there be dissonance in their relationship? Sure, briefly, but they love each other and they work it out and both of them dislike Hylia, they're such a power couple and will fight god :D
As for fanon having other Links be bitter towards Hylia, I guess it works?? idk it works at first glance, but then i always remember that they have no fucking clue who Hylia is. Wild knows, obviously, but he's on good terms with her. I just think it's occasionally a little funny to see the Links ragging on Hylia when they canonically don't know she exists.
(my personal hcs are that the Links, especially Ledge and Time who are typically the most outspoken about it in fanon, pretty much just want nothing to do with the gods. They're more focused on the immediate "i can save this person and the world" part. Also, Time has his whole Master Sword thing. but in general, i think that any bitterness towards the gods (most likely the golden goddesses) is pretty surface-level and they don't think much about it. Not a single Link would regret saving the world. I think that's something I don't often see - they chose to be heroes, and they would do it again without hesitation. They just wish it didn't cause so much trauma. However, Warrior having religious trauma due to fighting a war and feeling like he and his soldiers have been abandoned, similar to WW1 soldiers, is just something so important to me :P)
uhhhhh i feel like there's something i missed but idk. I've thought about this A Lot. Actually, if you want to see a really clear-cut example of how I think Sky feels about Hylia, you can check out Smoke & Ashes, which is a LOT of angst so PLEASE BE CAREFUL, but chapters 13 and 14 are very prominently about how they feel about each other (in my head). yes i am shilling, but i love this fic lmao.
hope you have a lovely day, anon!!! tysm :D
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