#guanbabies

[pontidude-blog]

I love how you would have handled the Guan-babies, but let's say that instead of Guan Ping being untalented, he turned out to be a talented scholar AND military strategist though not of Fa Zheng's caliber, but for the latter, he discovered such talents of his far too late; he didn't get the chance to show this talent to his father and his brothers.

During the battle of Fan Castle, he realized every single of Guan Yu's mistakes, but Guan Yu never heeded any of Ping's words as in his mind, Guan Ping was a brute warrior, not a keen strategist. It's only right before their execution Guan Yu finally realized that Ping was right all along.

Ping, on the other hand, would regret the fact that either; he was not powerful enough to carry out his own plans to cover up his father's military blunders, or was not persuasive enough to convince his father of how fatal his blunders were. This would still make him a tragic man while not making him a totally untalented person.

Sure, this has no historical basis whatsoever, but so does Huang Zhong being old, Guo Huai being always sick, or pretty much the existence of Guan Suo.

Y'know the guanbabies (Excluding guan Ping) can be easily fixed, If you could fix them how would you do It?

I’m sure I’ve discussed it before somewhere, but I guess I can go over it again here, since I don’t remember where the post was or what it might have been called.

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[leoriesling]

okay.... if ANY of the guanbabies (except yinping) have a high rank tomorrow, I'M GONNA RAGE

[dw-confessions]

Shu could have been my favorite kingdom if we had amazing characters like Liao Hua, Wang Ping, Zhang Yi and Huang Hao. But instead they gave us a bunch of Guanbabies and Bao Sanniang.

[the-archlich]

There's a scene in the Romance where some Wu officer shoots and kills one of the Guanbaby's horses, so after Shu captures that officer, the officer is executed as a sacrifice to the dead horse. Did that kind of thing actually happen?

That specific story did not. The tale is probably based on some custom but I don't know if it was a Han-era tradition or one that developed later.

[the-archlich]

Finally playing through DW9, and I was curious what you thought about the *great* Shu add for it - well, looks like you could be hitting the bookies: "Oh, Zhou Cang would be a horrible choice. There’s really no good reason to add him at all. But since Koei has this huge “Guan Yu” fetish and we’re all out of Guanbabies, Zhou Cang’s probably going to be added in the next game so that they can have yet another character to tell us all how great Guan Yu is." (2015-03-18)

I think we all knew what I would say about Zhou Cang long before he appeared.

[the-archlich]

If Guan Suo gets Ling Tong's nunchucks again shit is gonna go down. Fuckers putting a fictional Guanbaby in to steal my boy's thunder was bullshit.

He’ll get them.

Hopefully they’ll use them differently.

[the-archlich]

Do you think Pang Hui culd be playable for the Jin side? If so how would he be characterized do you think? Also was he a notable officer like his father?

I see a lot of people ask about Pang Hui.

There’s some limited merit in it. He participated in the conquest of Shu, and probably other battles on the western frontier. According to the Shiji (a record of questionable reliability) he also slaughtered Guan Yu’s family in order to avenge his father after conquering Shu.

On the one hand, DW has done more with less (and, for that matter, less with more). There are certainly worse options. Pang Hui had a few merits, he’d add some muscle to the overly-brainy Jin faction, and he could be a good foil for his father as well as the Guanbabies.

On the other hand, there are so many more worthy people who could be added to the Jin faction that I can’t really get behind Pang Hui. There are just too many better choices for me to get enthusiastic about it.

[the-archlich]

I think if they added Wang Ping then he would be one of those few Shu characters that I could genuinely enjoy as long as they don't insert "BENEVOLENCE" into his character. Well, maybe they would place him in Wei just to round out the roster because of the clutter in Shu *cough guanbabies*.

My greatest fear for Wang Ping is that - because he was illiterate (probably dyslexic) - they would depict him as they do Wei Yan. I’d hate to see him insulted like that.

Also I’d just die if there was a part where I could read books to him.

He could be a really great character if given the respect he deserves. I’ve wanted him for years.