#gransurg blackmore

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The Dark Six are the Excalibur fairies?? Don't they predate vampires by thousands of years?

The basis of the theory is:

The Dark Six is called "the oldest system" and the oldest system we currently know is the six Excalibur fae from 12000 BC.

Six.

The Aylesbury plotline involves waiting for them to finish reviving, and the fact that they paid with their lives to forge Excalibur explains why they're needing to revive.

Brunestud was initially interested in Earth because the kingdom of the moon lost everything it had, and we know Sefar attacked the Moon before Earth, so that's a pretty valid reason to fixate on the thing that killed Sefar.

The other group attempting the Aylesbury ritual is the Harwey family, whose most powerful magecraft is named Sword Camelot and whose project created a "perfect king" in the molds of King Arthur.

Fate's late Gransurg Blackmore had a whole village of human followers dedicated to his will and that village's project was working with Morgan to create a mirror image of King Arthur.

Pure Arcueid's sword straight up just looks like this.

[inversionimpulse]

Merem Solomon and Gransurg Blackmore are some of the most relatable characters in fiction because who in their right mind would not fall to their knees and worship Archetype:Earth

[shonocondo]

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zepia’s last name is oberon. back in melty blood this was probably a symbolic writing choice regarding the night of wallachia manifesting rumors for a single summer night much like the fairy king oberon does in a midsummer night’s dream, but many years later casefiles material points out that zepia chose the name oberon himself and it is incredibly conspicuous about how this is important. “In the world of magecraft, where a resemblance of names holds such a deep meaning, the relationship between him and the fairy king Oberon of a Midsummer Night’s Dream is a story only he knows.“

as a dead apostle, zepia’s exact lifespan is hard to determine. what we know for certain is in fate he became director of atlas (exchanging the name oberon for atlasia) around 1400 AD and was likely already a dead apostle by then, and in tsukihime he made his contract with altrouge and became the night of wallachia around 1500 AD.

this means zepia’s name was oberon centuries before shakespeare was even alive to write a midsummer night’s dream, so zepia choosing this name predates the invention of the character of the fairy king oberon.

that being said, a character called oberon does exist in the 13th century story of huon de bordeaux, where oberon is the elven son of morgan le fay and julius caesar. this story is referenced in caesar’s profile, although it’s not sure how true it is within fate when caesar lived some five centuries before morgan.

fairies are beings that are normally imperceptible to humans unless they have certain mystic eyes, but there do exist fairies that wear human imagination as a perceivable shell. fairies that can be fully perceived by and interact with humans without such a shell are of the elemental class, of which arcueid is an example given in material books (yu mei-ren would be another example).

the night of wallachia is a phenomenon that cannot be said to exist, but it its able to manifest physically by cloaking itself in malicious rumors.

zepia became the night of wallachia through a contract with altrouge, arcueid’s sister.

in casefiles volume 6, zepia is staying at the blackmore cemetery because it possesses one of the seven atlas contracts that allow one to demand the cooperation of atlas even if it goes against their rules of never letting anything leave the institute. 

chaldea also has such a contract, which is how they were able to obtain trismegistus and the paper moon made by sion. zepia was in charge of making trismegistus until the responsibility was pushed to sion instead.

the cemetery is in gray’s hometown, home to a cult that intends to revive king arthur and which has safekept the mystic code containing rhongomyniad for centuries. said mystic code is add, which was turned into a seal for rhongomyniad and given its current form by morgan le fay. its original, true form is that of the logos react replica, which is a copy of one of the seven superweapons of atlas.

the village’s ritual to revive king arthur was also created by morgan le fay, and they are using the atlas contract to have zepia help in performing it.

zepia is able to control the logos react with ease, and can almost singlehandedly contain it after it goes out of control, which is outrageous even for atlas alchemist standards.

another copy of the logos react is the cause of the gudaguda final honnouji event. sion explains that the nature of logos react is creating an “observational space” for the sake of running thought experiments, but these simulations can easily go on to become singularities. this copy of it was a birthday gift to her from zepia.

in fate timelines zepia did not become the night of wallachia, but in casefiles he does mention having once calculated the possibility of him becoming a “comrade” of gransurg blackmore (his fellow dead apostle ancestor in tsukihime), although that possibility was cut off around 300 AD before he was born. this means zepia is aware of the night of wallachia even if it is impossible for him to become it in fate.

zepia is also connected to doctor heartless, who had his heart stolen by fairies (though I can’t be sure of the exact connection until casefiles vol.6 is translated lol)

lostbelt number six is called “avalon le fay” and is described as a world of fairies instead of humanity. its fantasy tree is dead, and instead it is being maintained by rhongomyniad.

the atlas institute has become dislodged from time in the wake of the incineration of humanity and was subsequently able to appear in the sixth singularity in its present state.

having listed the facts as far as I can find them, here are some things that can be extrapolated from them.

morgan le fay has to have worked together with atlas in the past in order to get her hands on the logos react replica so that she could turn it into add. it is not unlikely that she is also the one who procured the atlas contract for the blackmore cemetery that now allows them to have zepia aid in the ritual, as she would have needed it in order to obtain the replica from them in the first place.

zepia is strongly connected to the fairies through his name and ties with doctor heartless, perhaps even being possible to classify as fairy himself as the night of wallachia, which he became with a fairy’s help, and he is aware of this possible outcome for himself even in worlds where it is impossible. since he predates the writing of a midsummer night’s dream he might have gotten his name from the oberon in huon de bordeaux, or considering the material book does specifically mention a midsummer night’s dream maybe zepia himself was the inspiration for shakespeare’s oberon. 

if zepia indeed took his name from huon de bordeaux’ oberon, it gives him a more direct connection with morgan le fay than simply “director of the institute she worked with long before his time,” as she is the mother of this oberon. 

going by the title lostbelt 6 is all but guaranteed to heavily feature morgan, who as said above has to have connections with atlas, which is currently dislodged from time and has previously appeared in a round table related story chapter. the lostbelt is maintained by rhongomyniad, and zepia has masterful control over a device that can completely seal rhongomyniad, a lesser copy of which is known to be in sion’s possession.

chaldea has an atlas contract, which allows it to demand the unconditional aid of atlas’ alchemists, and it has already previously worked with zepia during the development of trismegistus - although this was unknown to the current chaldea staff before meeting sion in the wandering sea.

believe in lostbelt zepia.

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Ok so this is mostly just wild speculation on my part but since most of this is likely to be disproved in the next 24 hours I figured what the hell might as well put my ideas out there.

So in the Sixth Lostbelt, a Lostbelt deeply tied to Morgan and her nature as Fairy I might remind you, we are introduced to these beings called Mors. These Mors are described as dead fairies and referred to as "the black algae that pollutes the world with its existence, the curse of Britain, killer of fairies ". Now after reading this I couldn't help but be reminded of the info we have about PHH Morgan, who is said to have " inherited the primeval curse that lurks in the British Isles in the form of blackened magical energy of the same kind of Excalibur Morgan's " I can't help but fell like there is some sort of connection between the two, the Mors and this blackened magical energy and further I also can't help seeing a parallel between the duality of the Mors/ Fairies and the duality of Morgan/ Vivian and Excalibur/ Excalibur Morgan.

Also when thinking about the possible relationship between Morgan and the Mors (who are basically fairy ghosts) it reminded me of PHH Morgans connection to a certain Magus family who specializes in dealing with the spirits of dead things, the Blackmores.

Now granted that last idea probably won't really amount to much as the Mors and Blackmores are probably only similarly named due to their shared conection to the latin word for death, for reasons that should be pretty clear. There is also the fact that the Blackmores only got their name because of their history with Gransurg Blackmore who was from Austria of all places and probably doesn't have any connections to the Fairies of Great Britain. Still though if you look into it, Arthurian /Fairy lore in the Nasuverse seems to have quite a few connections to figures that in the Tsukihime timelines are known Dead Apostle Ancestors.

You have the easy one in Fou/ Cath Palug and Primate Murder, but going back into looking at Gransurg we know that he is one of the key participants in the Aylesbury Valesti the ritual said to revive The Dark Six. This ritual, set for some reason in a town in England (my pet theory is its set on the isle of Britain because its the "Navel of the World" in the Nasuverse) is believed to have started what was basically the overcount 1999 equivalent in the world of Fate/EXTRA and probably involved the Harweys. The Harweys just like Gransurg have ties to both the Aylesbury Valesti AND Arthurian Britain as shown by their Sword Camelot: Castle of the assembled brilliant Holy Sword codecast/spell.

As an almost completely unrelated aside Sword Camelot seems to fallow a naming convention of stuff related to Camelot and Saber's time as king and her knights. We have Sword Camelot: Castle of the assembled brilliant Holy Sword, Lord Camelot: Now is a Castle of Distant Ideals, Camelot Image: Fleeting Forgotten Castle and now most recentlly with Morgan we've got Lordless Camelot: The Now Unreachable Utopia.

My point is Nasu seems to be deliberately showing us things in part 2 of FGO that are connected with Tsukihime and by extension its upcoming remake, we have stuff like Fou and Primate Murder, Sion as our newest member of Chaldea, what are basically True Ancestors in Lostbelt 3 and of course what is all but certainly ORT in Lostbelt 7. Also remember that True Ancestors are a kind of fairy and we have all these connections between fairies and King Arthur and King Arthur and DAA stuff which is naturally connected with True Ancestor stuff.

Basicly how my theory is goes is this. The nature of fairies and Arthurian Britain within the Nasuverse have an, at this point a mostly unexplained relationship with the True Ancestors / Dead Apostle Ancestors and that understanding this relationship is THE Key component in understanding BOTH the Timeline split between Tsukihime worlds and Fate worlds and the plot of / major story changes from the original in the upcoming Tsukihime remake. AND it is my belief that a Huge amount of info explaining the sofar unexplained relationship between Fairies/ Arthurian Britain and Nasu Vampires will be reveled to US in the soon to released Lostbelt 6 part 2.

Sorry if this was rather chaotic. I hope I made my points clear and that my info about what we do know for certain was correct. So any thoughts?

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If I had a nickel for every time I've seen a vampire named Blackmore and thought they were cool as hell, I'd have... ten cents. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

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never played a tsuki hime but my favourite dead apostle ancestor is gransurg blackmore, who became a vampire because crimson moon tried to kill him but through a freak coincidence failed and crimson moon thought that was funny enough to keep him as personal clown magus, after which gransurg decided to simp for crimson moon for the rest of his life and independently researched how to become a vampire and also turn himself into a bird while he’s at it, and all the other dead apostle ancestors think he’s a complete loser

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Man, I forgot about how much I love Blackmore’s design

... although that could just be because I love crows and still have the aesthetic sense of an edgy teenager. Either way, I still think it’s really good.

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in casefiles zepia mentions calculating "a possibility" where he and gransurg blackmore (dead apostle ancestor number 16) would be comrades which means zepia knows the wall lore which in turn makes this extra funny because apparently he has not only predicted the end of the world but also his own catastrophic existential breakdown about it and is so embarrassed about it that he refuses to participate in any apocalypse prevention activities

the way she says this is just so fucking funny. every single atlas mage calculates the end of the world at some point and runs to zepia to panic about it and zepia is like yeah yeah whatever we've all seen the end of the world go phenomenonise about it