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local-glorb-lunatic · 5 months ago
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Glorb and AI within art [\\Warning: long\\]
AI art is bad. Simply put, unethical. This we can agree on. It steals from unconsenting and uncredited artists, and the "art" it generates is more than current servers can handle, consuming insane amounts of energy, and harming the environment. Same goes for ai writing and ai music; however, what Glorb makes, isn't ai music.
We tend to forget just how much of Glorb's music is made by him (which is all of it except for the ai voice filter). On the topic of that filter, from everything I've gathered (and I'm no ai professional), it isn't as harmful as "generative" ai. I know generative ai is a company, but I'm using it to refer to ai programs that generate new content. The filter is trained on another person's voice but this wouldn't be any more harmful than any other voice filter, and definently not as bad as generative ai.
However, we still have to consider the fact that the voices the ai is trained on are still unconsenting. I assume most people know about, or at least feasibly could look up the Spongebob voice actors, but there is still the understandably scary act of using someone's voice when they haven't allowed it. Honestly, to me, this in itself isn't that big a deal, because people's likenesses (including voice lines) can/have been used in art: for example, fan animations that use lines from a show or project (sometimes changing the context). The real issue lies in making these people's voices say things that they never said. Ai has already been used for this maliciously, like when people were doing the Mr.Beast scams, with an ai of his voice.
I think, at this point, Glorb songs are very obviously not being sung by the real voice actors, and they would never be in trouble because of what was in a Glorb song. Plus he actively discloses that the songs are parody. This filter is being trained off of their character voices, not their normal voices. But their character voices are still something they cultivated, and still their lively hood. To my knowledge, the Spongebob voice actors have still got plenty of job opportunities, but the same can't always be said for impressionists.
I've seen the argument a lot, that Glorb could've hired people who do Spongebob impressions instead of using ai. While we can't assume Glorb's financial situation from when he first started, we can assume that he's gotten a good amount of money from his songs, now that there are so many that are so popular. I could still see a few reasons why he wouldn't want to do this: 1) Flow is kind of important in rap, and if this was any other kind of non-musical project I'd agree more with this point, but not every impressionist has a good flow or can even rap. Glorb uses a filter, but you still have to sound good for the end product to work. And I can think of a few people, specifically Youtubers, who could do this, but I've still got more reasons. 2) Audio quality is gonna be kind of inconsistent depending on people's audio setups, and that could kind of break the immersion of the songs. 3) I'm not sure if this is right, but I'm pretty sure when your paying people you've gotta use your real name. Working with other people could complicate Glorb keeping his identity private, which we know is important to him. Honestly for good reason. Cause having your identity public on the internet is pretty dangerous. 4) Glorb doing the rapping himself gives him more creative control. We know that Glorb makes a lot of choices to differentiate the rappers of the Krusty Krab Krew, when in a group song, and individually. So I could understand him wanting to continue doing things himself.
Now if these reasons don't work for you, that's okay. I'm not gonna be devastated if you cant get behind ai voice filter Spongebob. But I think its important for us to actively examine criticisms of things we enjoy. I love Glorb songs, but that doesn't immediately mean that Glorb does everything perfectly (or even right). Even more importantly I think it's important to look at the knee-jerk reaction of hating Glorb because he uses ai.
We can't hate ai because it's ai. Learning models are going to be necessary (and already have been necessary) to do important things. I know ai has been used to hurt artists A LOT recently with ai art, but we cant forget Glorb is an artist. That doesn't mean that he is automatically exempt from criticism from other artists, but he's important in the conversation of ai's relationship to art. Can ai be used ethically in art? Is Glorb an example of that?
Personally I think that Glorb's work is ethical. Can it be done without ai? Yes. Does the ai make his work invalid? You tell me.
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definitelysome1 · 3 months ago
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Hi! I saw that one of your posts was scraped, and I wanted to empathize because I actually just had that happen! Since I know it's rough, I wanted to first say that you are welcome to talk to me any time. ❤️
But! More importantly I wanted to ask about if you wanted to share any more HCs for Tim Drake's goofy music tastes?
Asking cus I love your take that he loves MCR (because I like MCR lol) and I've always thought he'd LOVE weird music like Glorbo 🤣 ❤️🥧 Happy Pi Day
1. Idk how to start this off other than to say thank you. It really is weird to randomly see your own post on another website without being asked for permission but I guess it is what it is, at least they kept my name in the post 😃
2. Anyway- as you put it “more importantly”, yes I do want to share more Tim music taste head canons :)
First of all, I actually made a playlist on Spotify based off what I think he listen to, if anyone wants to listen
It’s mainly emo rock, alt/indie music, some soft metal and a little RNB. There’s also some rap in there
(And some pop songs because- reluctantly- pop songs can be good, although he would never admit that out loud.)
(Note: I’m going to assume that you made a typo and it was supposed to say glorb and not glorbo bc the band glorbo has 500 listeners monthly(which isn’t a bad thing, but it would be an insane coincidence if we both listened to that band) and also they don’t really make weird music. Anyway- I’d agree that Tim would listen to glorb occasionally, but I think he’d get overwhelmed pretty quickly)
Here are some highlights from the playlist along with hcs:
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE - our little stalker was introduced to mcr when he was in middle school bc one of the older kids told him he looked like a Gerard Way wannabe(which he did not, but what does a 12 year old know)- he looked the guy up and was like “hm, I wonder what his music sounds like” and then he fell down the rabbit hole. His favourite mcr song is You Know What They Do To Guys Like Us In Prison
I DON’T KNOW HOW BUT THEY FOUND ME - the first time I heard the song MAD IQs I thought “this is literally Tim Drake as a song”. IDKHOW is the perfect amount of weird and funky for Tim, and I can just imagine him jamming in his room to the entire RAZZMATAZZ album. He found IDKHOW one random Thursday when he was like 16 while watching some obscure video essay on YouTube. His favourite IDKHOW song is obviously MAD IQs
JXDN - ngl this is probably just a projection of my own music taste. But look at his merch
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And tell me it isn’t something Tim would walk around in… (his favourite JXDN song is JUST LET GO)
Bad Omens - another projection bc this band has taken over my life. Tim would go around the manor singing THE DEATH OF PEACE OF MIND quietly and Jason would be following him trying to figure out what the hell he’s singing because it’s actually half good. After patrol one day Jason threatens that he’ll steal Tim’s favourite mug if he doesn’t tell Jason what song he’s been singing and three months later they’re going to a Bad Omens concert together. Tim also thinks the lead singer is pretty attractive, so that definitely helped him get into them. His favourite Bad Omens song is The Gray
Queen - obviously Tim listens to queen, duh. He is a bisexual man in the 21st century, he was probably born with the need to listen to Killer Queen at least once a day. His favourite Queen song is Killer queen, but Don’t Stop Me Now is a close second
Mother Mother - Tim was extremely late to listen to MM. The first time he heard about them was when HAYLOFT II came out, but when he did start listening to them, he binged literally all of their songs in one night. His favourite Mother Mother song is Oh Ana
Mitski - one of his friends in high school (right before he dropped out) made him listen to I Bet On Losing Dogs, and Tim started violently sobbing. He went home that day, extremely embarrassed, and listened to Mitski while crying and eating ice cream. His favourite Mitski song is A Pearl
Ending note:
I firmly believe that Tim doesn’t care what language the music is in (which is also why there are some Japanese songs on the playlist), and I really wanted to put some kpop songs on the playlist, but I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the Batfam fandom wouldn’t be very appreciative of that, so I haven’t. But if anyone wants there to be, lmk and I’ll make a separate playlist for what kpop songs he’d listen to.
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