#gintoki growing up and reflecting the things he learned from shouyou in how he raises his various kids including shouyou is so

[joelletwo]

#something something takasugi daddy issues + gintoki unable to resist being a burden carrier#+ the shouyou who reflects both of them and is the adult body in this situation but is actually a lost child like takasugi

IS takasugi supposed to read so. gestures. brain foggy and also this isnt the thing i want to spend time on typing so how to say quickly. parent issues-sublimated-onto-teacher issues. like that cant just be my own baggage im bringing in but also it feels like a wild basis for ur sympathetic antag-turned-series meow meow is for him to be more obsessed w ur dead teacher than u were but u were yalls dead teacher's favorite and he was just another [precious but not specially] student.

like what do we know about his relationship to shouyoutsuro. bc they relate on being lost in life but his initial draw to shoukason is more about gintoki to my memory. gintokis the one who chose takazura on purpose and shouyou was just like they seem like good kids good for u :) has been my reading lol. so any feelings he'd have about shouyou would be filtered/interpreted thru gintoki first. or vice versa. not engaging w shouyou one-on-one yet. and then im really extremely unclear on the timeline of the fire->the war->the execution so who knows but none of that is specifically about takasugi and shouyou. does it really just all boil down to hating the world that made gintoki cry again.

[soppymilkgin]

#made me go refind that video so i could listen to shouyou and babysugi's convo again. and in that moment sugi imprinted like a baby duck.#on. TRULY. a man who is an adult body but just a lost child w all his heart and soul. <- ANOTHER REASON ITS SO CRUEL WE#DIDNT GET MORE OF ALTANA BABY'S GROWING UP..... the thing shouyou never got to do the thing the...... how to say#gintoki growing up and reflecting the things he learned from shouyou in how he raises his various kids including shouyou is so#mean bc its not exactly role reversal its . gintoki GOT to mature. and learn a billion things and synthesize them together.#shouyou never got to that part. and then got robbed of it at least two more times on his various revivals lol. god. cries abt it.#AAAAAAAND. yeah. everyone playing their roles in this predetermined tragedy takasugi doing admirably in his as The Horrified Onlooker.

so true!! oughhh its so. so many endlessly terrible things but its ok they had the good once together. what u said about takasugi imprinting on shouyou like a baby duck made me think of shouyou's trauma w oboro -> seeing tiny gintoki whos like this silver curly baby + dehumanized like himself and then we get takasugi home life -> seeing shouyou who is a father-adjacent kinda guy who is also like himself a gintoki orbiter hehehe

#the guy who gets radicalized and development arrested by all this. hmmmmm. ties together some thoughts abt sugi and oboro choosing to#remain frozen in time with what i just said about perpetual kid shouyou. anyways.

^this stirring up some thoughts !! makes the takasugi revival feel a lot more forgiving than before like not only is he getting another chance w matako raising him but the oboro and shouyou/utsuro essence thats chilling in his blood r kinda? getting another chance too? like it essentially all started with them and now its all nice and wrapped up or something wahoo

IS takasugi supposed to read so. gestures. brain foggy and also this isnt the thing i want to spend time on typing so how to say quickly. parent issues-sublimated-onto-teacher issues. like that cant just be my own baggage im bringing in but also it feels like a wild basis for ur sympathetic antag-turned-series meow meow is for him to be more obsessed w ur dead teacher than u were but u were yalls dead teacher's favorite and he was just another [precious but not specially] student.

like what do we know about his relationship to shouyoutsuro. bc they relate on being lost in life but his initial draw to shoukason is more about gintoki to my memory. gintokis the one who chose takazura on purpose and shouyou was just like they seem like good kids good for u :) has been my reading lol. so any feelings he'd have about shouyou would be filtered/interpreted thru gintoki first. or vice versa. not engaging w shouyou one-on-one yet. and then im really extremely unclear on the timeline of the fire->the war->the execution so who knows but none of that is specifically about takasugi and shouyou. does it really just all boil down to hating the world that made gintoki cry again.