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shoyowo · 3 months ago
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ginhiji and living as each other: a compilation
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enamamesan · 1 year ago
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just thinking about the fact that gintoki’s default personality whenever his character gets reset/totalled is an honourable and loyal man.
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whosname · 24 days ago
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[Id. Two ink and alcohol markers drawings. On the first Hijikata in Gintoki's body is screaming and holding Ginpachi sensei from his collar. On the second, Ginpachi sensei and Gintoki in Hijikata's body are eating watermelon, sensei is spitting a seed to ginhiji's face. End Id.]
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gintamacaps · 2 years ago
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epicdogymoment · 1 year ago
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[lake touya falling to the ground sfx]
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sankatsuka · 11 months ago
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Otose, Jirochou and Tatsugorou: Microcosms in Gintama
Back to being delusional and crazy about Takagin... I've always noticed some similarities between Jirochou and Takasugi, but because the narrative kept comparing Tatsugorou and Jirochou to Gintoki (+ the white hair), it was hard to decide what to make of it...
But now I would go on to say The Four Devas arc feels like a microcosm of Shogun Assassination arc. Otose, Jirochou and Tatsugorou could very well be a microcosm to the entire Gintama. I think there's a lot to say about Gintoki and Takasugi's characters based on this.
Warning for spoilers and romantically implied Takagin/Gintaka.
Edit: Added another microcosm I found. Marked *.
I don't even feel like this needs to be explained, but Jirochou and Takasugi have pretty much the same gruff, constipated, distant personalities, except of course Jirochou came from a better family. Not to forget the heights and the similar choices of kimonos. The narrative never makes any points on how similar Takasugi is to several characters, but it definitely is there. Especially if Gintoki often picks a fight with them (looking at you Hijikata and Umibouzu). But I think Jirochou is the biggest culprit for being most similar to Takasugi, often having the same intense sequences with Gintoki.
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There are two big similarities in the setting and events of The Four Devas arc and Shogun Assassination arc -
Both involve an attempt at overthrowing the authority;
One takes place in Kabukichou, and the other in the entire Edo.
Whether its coincidence or not, the cast that appear in The Four Devas arc and Shogun Assassination arc don't appear in the other (aside from Yorozuya, of course). If you can believe this was intended as a microcosm, then this means Otose, Jirochou and Tatsugorou have big roles to play in Gintama's overall narative.
So if Jirochou's personality heavily references Takasugi, who represents Gintoki? Or is there a third character to represent Otose?
Nope, my take is that Gintoki represents BOTH Otose and Tatsugorou. The narrative clearly points out the parallels between Tatsugorou and Gintoki, but the ones with Otose are never said. In fact, Gintoki has many similarities to women but the narrative never points it out (aside from Tsukuyo, but even then Gintoki belittles himself compared to her). It's probably because it's weird to compare a good-for-nothing guy to a woman in the first place.
But it wouldn't be weird if Gintoki was meant to represent a son to Otose and Tatsugorou, considering how they never had a child and Otose took him in. In a way, you could say he has a half of Otose and a half of Tatsugorou--
Gintoki has also coincidentally had two occasions where he is associated with halves. The first is in the Soul Switch arc, where the soul in the cat corpse Dozaemon with half of Gintoki's soul embodies the losses Gintoki suffered. The second is in Takasugi's death, where for some reason, he says he wished he could have shared a drink with him, even if it was half the number of times they fought.
These halves can be traced back to Otose and Tatsugorou. Dozaemon was highly characterized by wanting a place to belong and found it in Tae, which very much resembles Tatsugorou who is heavily implied to long for a place as a lone wolf and found it in Otose.
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Then, Gintoki's words to Takasugi about sharing a drink seems very much like why Otose opened her snack bar in the first place - so anyone, no matter how different, can have a drink together. Maybe it's coincidence, but if Gintoki chose to say half + sharing a drink, then this could be one half of him speaking (Otose).
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Another implication of Otose's half in Gintoki is in the amnesia arc. If it took away all memories, including the bad ones, from Gintoki, then what was left was just his soul as it is. He acts surprisingly more polite and empathetic compared to his usual self that even Tae is captivated. He also naturally cares about everyone's feelings around him, apologizes a lot and chooses to leave Yorozuya so as to not burden Shinpachi and Kagura any longer. Gintoki's base soul has always been someone who cares deeply about people, which we see demonstrated in his own way in the rest of the series.
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Tatsugorou's traits in Gintoki are obviously that he's a lone wolf who gets along with everyone, but never gets too close and keeps his past a mystery. Otose's traits in Gintoki are how he easily acts like her proxy, always bringing people together. There is that huge parallel of how the entire Kabukichou came together to protect Otose and the city and to fulfil Gintoki's wish in the end. I would simplify their traits in Gintoki as wanting a place to belong (Tatsugorou) and sharing a kindred spirit (Otose). It's probably why the Gintoki in Hijikata's body isn't so different from the usual - because the soul and some memories that defined it were still there.
There is the argument that Tatsugorou would act like Gintoki without his memories, of course. But Jirochou describes Tatsugorou as chivalrous rather than an idiot who would protect everyone like Gintoki. So I'm inclined to think that Tatsugorou doesn't have the unconditional loving side for everyone that Otose has and acts mostly on his justice. He does get into physical fights for no reason.
Now that I have established Otose, Jirochou and Tatsugorou's traits in Gintoki and Takasugi, the events in their past and the Four Deva arcs has more to say about their characters:
Tatsugorou dying because of Jirochou, and Jirochou making a promise to protect Otose and Kabukichou | Takasugi making Gintoki promise to protect Shouyou, who breaks it and kills Shouyou to protect both
I know, the most obvious parallel is how Tatsugorou died in Jirochou's arms. But I'm taking a more psychoanalytical approach as always, as this event became what changed Jirochou immensely. I would think that Shouyou's death would be the parallel to this, given how it changed Takasugi.
Jirochou and Takasugi (partly) letting their guards down was what caused these tragic events to happen. Jirochou distances himself from Kabukichou and lives out the guilt of having let Tatsugorou die for someone like him, and Takasugi lived on suffering the guilt of having made Gintoki bear the cross of killing Shouyou. Both even feel like they were the ones who killed Tatsugorou and Shouyou.
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Not to mention how Takasugi literally threw away his humanity in the Silver Soul arc to protect his teacher, just like Jirochou metaphorically doing so to protect Kabukichou. And Pirako comments how Jirochou really couldn't care less about the city and only did so for one woman. This is the same mindset Takasugi openly fights with in the war, fighting only for Shouyou, but later that reason reveals itself to be Gintoki.
Both Jirochou and Takasugi threw away their humanities to make it up to the man they admired who died protecting them (Tatsugorou and Shouyou), and make the person they love happy through that (Otose and Gintoki).
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I would even go as far as saying the Tatsugorou half of Gintoki died alongside Shouyou at that time. There is the symbolism of how all three students created their graves. After all, Gintoki lost his home, something Tatsugorou always wanted for himself. He started wandering around afterwards, distancing himself from people but still protecting them. Even being willing to give up his life for strangers, like Otose sacrificing herself for everyone.
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It's as if during this period, he closed the part of him who wanted a place to belong entirely but not the rest of it. He did say he no longer wanted to carry the burden of belonging somewhere with something important--
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As he expresses it openly to Kamui 500+ chapters later, he had tried to live on empty and not let people in anymore to protect himself. But when he met Otose behind Tatsugorou's grave only did Tatsugorou's half start to come back alive, fighting once again to belong somewhere.
Gintoki does after all promise to stay somewhere to protect someone, despite having avoided belonging anywhere until now.
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Jirochou attempting to kill Otose for his plans of protecting Kabukichou | Takasugi fighting to kill Gintoki to go through with his plans of toppling the Bakufu
Another big similarity here is how both Jirochou and Takasugi are willing to kill someone they love for the apparent greater good. Jirochou critically injured Otose, and Otose was at great risk of dying.
This emphasizes how Jirochou and Takasugi always play the roles of villainous anti-heroes. We learn in the Liberation Army arc that what Takasugi was trying to do was play hero and make a miracle to avenge the dead, even though it was impossible.
Something I also have to talk about is the romantic feelings that this trio captures. Jirochou's feelings for Otose seem to have come about from the way she loved everyone equally, even never giving up on straightening Jirochou up no matter how much he misbehaved.
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As I discussed in previous posts, Takasugi's romantic feelings for Gintoki seem to stem from a similar place of unconditional love. It makes me think that gruff guys ware drawn to gentler, unconditional people who can see through their facade, contrast them and express their love for people when they themselves can't. Someone who wouldn't give up on them.
Even Gintoki being the one to keep getting back up to stop Takasugi on his rampage, like Otose had done with Jirochou.
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With how the story teases Otose with Jirochou too, I'm inclined to believe that Otose did harbour some romantic feelings for him. But she was more attracted to Tatsugorou, who shared her values of being present with people, unlike Jirochou who distances himself all the time. There is a scene where Otose notes how Jirochou and Tatsugorou communicate with their fists, and she looks from far away as if it isn't a world she is part of. A way to see this, could be that if Otose understood Jirochou better, she may have fallen in love with him first.
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Whereas Gintoki already knows how important it is to communicate with your fists, that it's what he uses to wake Takasugi up in the end. The chapter even being titled Fists.
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This is what makes both Otose and Tatsugorou's halves in Gintoki important. Without Tatsugorou's traits, Gintoki would have never been able to see eye-to-eye with Takasugi. Gintoki probably knew Takasugi better than Otose knew Jirochou because of this too, which is a recurring theme in the story of how they can just tell each other's thoughts. And without Otose's trait of loving people and never giving up on them, Takasugi would have never found a place and fell in love with Gintoki.
And in Takasugi's final moments, if Gintoki was speaking with the half of him who is Otose - then it could mean that part of him fully reciprocated Takasugi's feelings.
Takasugi plays strong roles to both halves - he was the one who encouraged Gintoki to just do what he wanted honestly and with all his heart at the start (here, just a theory though), and he was the one who fought to his death for his sake fully committing Gintoki's place within Takasugi's soul in the end. It's just that only one half of him could be honest, but it doesn't mean the other didn't love him either.
In the end, Jirochou's conclusion is to properly return to his life, to stop being bound to a promise and pay attention to what really matters now in the present. This is similar to Takasugi's conclusion in the Liberation Army arc: to live life as just a human and to face and accept everything that's happened.
The ending of the Four Deva arcs involve Jirochou reuniting with Pirako, and so does Takasugi's ending reuniting with Matako.
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*(Another strong microcosm is in the Invasion arc: Jirocho made his entrance with a speech about the role of men in Kabukichou - how they become cowards when they can't protect one woman, so with that title, they will keep roaring about their chivalry till their death. And this is exactly what Takasugi does both as a terrorist and at his death, playing hero and never divulging the real reason why. Sadly I can't add anymore photos - this speech is in Chapter 622.)
I did talk about Tae being drawn to instances where both halves were showing. I personally think the reason Gintoki and Tae aren't together is because of how they are too similar as people, both being a combination of Otose and Tatsugorou instead of one. Both of them are kind caring people but also terribly cunning, that it isn't an exaggeration to say Tae IS the female Gintoki and vice versa. It's even emphasized in how they coincidentally have many similar character traits (having stalkers and chibi rich kid one-eyed simps, being a useless woman and man). Even the teasing of how Tae seems to return the feelings of many people like Gintoki.
As halves, I do think they would have been together. But as wholes, they probably understand each other better than anyone that they want to care about everyone (hence why they aren't together).
They can only really be with someone who is happy with them just the way they are. Even Kyubei being happy just seeing Tae smile, even if it could be taken in a romantic context of reciprocating Kondo's feelings. Kyutae was heavily implied to be mutual and canon if Kyubei was a man (grrrr). Takagin feels mutual but just won't happen even if Takasugi was alive because of their clashing natures.
Yup, I'm pretty much convinced Takasugi->Gintoki was 100% implied romantic at this point. Pirako commenting how Jirochou was doing all of this for the woman he loved and didn't care about the town, Takasugi having parallels to almost every man canonically in love...
Takasugi saying he can just a bit honest about doing what he wants to do and not entirely. This motherfucker.
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(Gin-san is my honest reaction to him.)
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writing-in-sin · 1 year ago
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Pattern in my OTPs: Sadistic! Top x Fearless! Bottom
Dont mind me, just self-indulging about my OTPs
Anyways!
Recently, I've noticed that I have a certain type when in comes to my OTPs which is a sadistic top paired with a fearless bottom. Granted, not all of my OTPs are of this type but I dont think its an exaggeration when I say that at least 90% of them are like this
GinHiji
Out of all of my OTPs, I'd say GinHiji pretty much embodies my favourite type of OTPs. Gintoki is canonically a Sadist and in fact, is known to be a Do-S alongside Sougo. Contrasting him is the fearless yet tsundere Hijikata. Another reason why I like them is the manzai combi they have. Hijikata is forever exasperated by Gintoki and cant help but be the tsukkomi to Gintoki's boke 🤣
BakuDeku
These 2 have a very complicated relationship but thankfully have improved a lot especially in recent years. Bakugou can be quite sadistic but considering what's happened between them and him canonically wants to do better, I think it'll take awhile for Bakugou to let out that sadistic side of him around Deku
With Deku though, he doesnt mind and I think we all can agree that Deku is a disastrous combination of fearless and reckless 😅
6927
One of my 1st OTPs since high school. Now, I dont think i need to tell anyone who's ever read or watched KHR that Mukuro is hands down quite terrifying and considering his introduction, has a sadistic streak a mile wide
For Tsuna, yeah....while its true that he tend to be more afraid than not but as time went on, it became more apparent that he's grown to be couragous and fearless when it comes to his Famiglia
KamuShin
granted, this is more of a crackship since Kamui and Shinpachi barely interacted but I like how their personalities mesh together. Kamui is another canonically sadistic chara in Gintama, anyone who's ever seen him fight in the Yoshiwara or Silver Soul arc can attest to that. Not to mentioned all of the shenanigans and mayhem he likes to cause with a deranged grin
Shinpachi is noted to be fearless in his own right, capable of accomplishing feats that other normal humans would feel impossible to even try. cant forget that he's also the one who made Utsuro pause before the timeskip
plus, they're also a manzai combi! a Do-S Yato boke with a glasses tsukkomi XD
ParaEmu
initially, i like them as a switch couple but recent years make me lean more of them as a fixed pair with Parad as a top. starting out as a villain, Parad was noted to be quite sadistic especially when he possessed Emu. He's since mellowed out but since we dont see much of how the charas are post-canon, its hard to say if he retained his more sadistic nature. i tend to hc that he does but only lets it out when needed
if anyone knows Emu's not so pleasant childhood and how he's risen to overcome many obstacles in life, then i think we can agree that he's become one of the most fearless charas in Ex-Aid
DeathPuss
okay, this one is pretty much on the nose. sadistic grim reaper hunting down everyone's favourite fearless hero anyone?
WangXian
Wei Wuxian is one of the most fearless charas I've ever had the pleasure to know about. the way he holds onto his morals and convictions even as the whole world turned against him is nothing short of inspiring. born with a smile and a noble heart that's matched by his beloved husband Lan Wangji
while he's not sadistic in the usual sense, Lan Wangji in the novel is known to mercilessly tease his husband especially in :ehem: bed. not to mentioned that when he deems it necessary, this man never hesitates to swiftly cut people down with just a few words right at jugular too
DazuShi
a suicidal former Port Mafia who's known to torture people paired with his steadily fearless were-tiger. i love their dynamic
MiSawa
Miyuki Kazuya is canonically known as twisted by both allies and opponents alike even feared to the point of petrifying the target of his ire with just a glare.
Sawamura Eijun? the fearless sunshine boy who overcome odds that would and have retired many players from the game. the Yips arc was remarkable in showing Eijun's strength and determination
KaiShin
the trickster who can easily manipulate law enforcements and enemies alike. its more noted in the early chapters of the manga, but Kaito was more callous. while thats no longer the case, Kaito is still quite unhinged
Shinichi? well, with all the reckless stunts he's pulled over the past 20+ years, i think fearless is an understatement for this detective
LawLu
the recent addition to my OTP list. LawLu is the one that made me realise that I tend to favour sadistic tops when I was trying to articulate Law's preference in my HC
thats when I realised that Law has a sadistic streak in canon. while its not explored all that much since he's an ally of the Straw Hats, we see hints of it. combined with the fact that he's a nerd, big on plans and control, he's a terrifying force. this is the same guy who cut opened 100 pirate hearts and sent them to the Marines
Luffy? he's fearless as they come. overcoming many hardships and coming out stronger. who fights for freedom and nakama even if it means facing death. hell, its canon that he's not afraid to face death for what he believes in
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With that said, I love my OTPs 🤩😍
.....Also, should I be worried that I'm a little too fond of sadistic tops for my OTPs? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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rosencrantzsguildenstern · 1 year ago
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semi serious / character development
this is the last of the gintama arc polls i've been running! (i tragically had to exclude a lot; but i JUST learnt that polls have 12 options now. i wish i knew this for the other polls. this is so fucked up, and also why this list isn't in chronological order like the rest, since i added the ones i was thinking of excluding onto the end. anyway)
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shoyowo · 3 months ago
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not even 2 mins into gintoki's body and he's calling cops bootlickers 😭
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enamamesan · 1 year ago
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this cant be happening. am i thinking about a corpse cat whose soul was given to it via ass?
yes. yes i am.
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whosname · 9 months ago
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A very good day for being Zura's diary *pastes photo on diary and draws hearts and happy faces around it with his posca markers*
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gintamacaps · 2 years ago
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babygray · 1 year ago
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A few notes from the baragaki arc movie (that I managed to understand with my shoddy Japanese…):
The opening and ending sketches, in pure Gintama-doesn’t-have-that-much-of-a-budget fashion, are voice-only sketches between Hijikata, Okita, Kondo, and Yamazaki as the camera stays mostly on a still shot of the Shinsengumi main gate.
The opening sketch: Hijikata and Okita start by talking about the 20th anniversary project. Okita shows us the timeline of all the events being planned. 3/4 of the chart is labeled “undecided”.
Yamazaki runs in to say that Kondo has lost his mind. Cut to shots from the Soul Switch arc, when the Shinsengumi became a biker gang. Kondo’s gone nuts, so Okita and Yamazaki join in. Hijikata punches the sense back into Kondo, who says the time away from the screen left him a little loopy.
Hijikata introduces the story we’re about to watch, and gets into the relationship between the Shinsengumi and Mimawarigumi, using scenes from the Farewell Shinsengumi arc as b-roll.
The movie proper starts with a short version of the “Wonderland” opening, and is basically the episodes stitched together. I know that there are some reanimated bits (baby Toshi walking with his big brother is one I think, but I can’t be sure without watching both versions again.) It wraps up with “Nakama” and the arc ending credits.
The ending sketch wrap up includes Hijikata talking about what happened after this to the Mimawarigumi, and mentions the big bad guy, over more shots from the Farewell Shinsengumi arc. (I zoned out a bit at this point for reasons and wasn’t fully listening). Kondo and Yamazaki say their favorite part of the movie (the pole and the anpan throwing, respectively). Okita puts in a plug for the next big event, Gintama Sound Ultra Soul, and gives the audience a sneak peak at the upcoming Ginpachi-sensei anime.
It’s a unfinished cel of Hijikata and Okita. Just the one.
“Well, that’s just like Gintama, always rushing to meet a deadline,” Kondo comments (I think).
Personal note: I cried at the end when sister-in-law talked about Hijikata’s letters to his brother. It touched my heart.
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gintama-polls · 10 months ago
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Gintama Episode Tourney
Episode 322, "Ten Years" The four survivors of the Joui War reunite on the battlefield. The sixth episode of the Rakuyou Decisive Battle Arc.
Episode 287, "He's the Sweet Tooth, and I'm the Mayo Guy" After a traffic accident, Gintoki and Hijikata's souls end up in the wrong bodies. The first third of the Soul Switch Arc.
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goldenlaquer · 2 years ago
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Now I'm pretty curious to know in which arc/episodes your OCs have a role ?
Oh gosh, thank you so much for letting me dump my brain into this post 🥺🥺🥺 these aren't in order (I should go back and do that) and there are definitely some arcs/episodes that I put them in and have forgotten about but here are the majority!:
Teito:
He appears in alotta episodes/arcs where the Shinsengumi tend to show up
Episode 8, Difference Between Perseverance and Obstinacy is Paper-Thin, the one where Kondo falls head over heels in stalker lover with Otae
Yagyuu arc
Okita Mitsuba arc
Shinsengumi in Crisis arc
Episode 119, Within Each Box Of Cigarettes, Are One Or Two Cigarettes That Smell Like Horse Dung, the one where cigs are banned
Rokkaku arc
Otsu arc
Character popularity poll arc
Love Choriss arc
Vacation arc
Baragaki arc
Courtesan of a Nation arc
Genderbend arc
Episode 285, Love Is a Roach Motel, the festival one where Kondo goes around in a roach mask
Sole Switch arc
Afro arc
Shogun Assassination arc
Farewell, Shinsengumi arc
Silver soul arc
Gintama: The Movie: The Final Chapter: Be Forever Yorozuya
Yan:
Yan pretty much shows up in every arc that Kamui/Abuto appears in, which isn't much LMFAOO
Yoshiwara in Flames arc
Four Devas arc
Shogun Assassination arc
Rakuyo Decisive Battle arc
Silver Soul arc
Seiji:
Benizakura arc (intro)
Episode 24, Cute Faces Must Be Hiding Something, the one where Gintoki and Katsura are forced to cross-dress and work in a club under Saigou.
Kabukicho Stray Cat arc
Yoshiwara in Flames arc
Ghost Ryokan arc
Barber arc
Character popularity poll arc
Diviner arc
Four Devas arc
The Pool Episode with the Shogun (episode 217)
Scandal arc
Love Choriss arc
Vacation arc
Kintama arc
Courtesan of a Nation arc
Genderbend arc
Confessional arc
Soul Switch arc
Feigned Illness arc
Shogun Assassination arc
Silver soul arc
Gintama: The Movie: The Final Chapter: Be Forever Yorozuya
If anyone wants in-depth details for any of these arcs + my oc's involvement, please do shoot an ask! 🥺🙏
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