#genuinely idk if people will like this post or not lol just idk more rep for those of us who didn't get hotter
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felixvanhuss · 7 months ago
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Positivity post for people who actually got less hot after transitioning. I can't be the only one out there who went from being attractive to being unattractive. It was, in fact, something I was terrified of happening, and it happened. And guess what? I'm still fucking happier now, unattractive and true to myself, than I was when I was hot and suppressing my true self. Like, so much happier. It's not even close
Do I miss being hot? Sure. But not enough to have even an ounce of regret for transitioning. If you're worried about becoming unattractive if you transition, know that I, for one, think that even if that happens, it's still fucking worth it
(Also I'm like way more charismatic now that I don't wanna die, so that's pretty cool)
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figmentof · 2 months ago
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i'm pitching kaos exclusively to ofmd fans bc i think it's a show that is right up our alley, plus it's on netflix which is the service that djenks is currently trying to get the attention of, so why don't we show them what we're capable of in terms of audience numbers? 😏
for starters, kaos does what tumblr loves, which is take existing ips and give them a modern twist. we got to see that firsthand with bbc sherlock and elementary (and to a lesser extent, house md), and even though ofmd is kept in its historical setting of the 1700's, it's anachronistic af what with all the modern lingo and therapy speak
kaos is extremely queer, obviously a show that is based off of greek mythology not being queer would be weird, but it's not just that there are an abundance of queer characters, you can tell the show itself has queer writers (the showrunner is nonbinary) and queer people working behind the scenes. the queer characters all have a story beyond their identity, there's no unnecessary commentary on their queerness or any fixed labels, queer people just exist and are very much characters instead of caricatures. there's a wide array of queerness across the board-- the fates are portrayed by trans/nonbinary actors, the furies are motorcycle riding butch lesbians, and caeneus is portrayed by a trans man (his story is interwoven with his identity)
more than half of the cast are poc-- poseidon is portrayed by a māori actor, eurydice and persephone are black women, and honestly there's so many characters of color it'd be hard to include them all in this post without like, spoiling the whole season lol
there's disability rep in this show as well, with several supporting characters that don't hide their disability onscreen and play crucial roles to the plot
most importantly, it's a show that delves into deep topics while still remaining a comedy, it's not afraid to be a bit camp at times and it doesn't take itself too seriously. i know a lot of ofmd fans have no interest in shows like iwtv bc although it's very queer and has it's comedic moments, it's not remotely in the same genre nor has the same vibe as ofmd, plus "queer media" isn't one single genre to begin with. so i genuinely do think kaos is a show ofmd fans would appreciate, and idk, maybe it could fill a little bit of the hole ofmd left and tide us over until we receive news about netflix picking ofmd up or... dare i say, grant us a third season?
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theinvisiblemuseum · 2 years ago
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how about......people demanding wlw rep then never actually engaging with it because the only thing they care about is woke points☕
this really was the wrong day for me to rb this game because i'm seriously genuinely going to be a major cunt about it and i dgaf. that's your warning.
so. here's what i think. in very general terms.
if you don't want to read below the cut (valid) here's all i'll say: stop, actually. i don't want need or care about the megaviral wlw fanfictions of your dreams, because that's not how i choose to engage with fandoms. i already make and engage with the kind of content i want to see which (surprise!) includes a lot of wlw content, but i don't see the need to force moral superiority down people's throats over it. i don't give two shits if anyone other than me is making wlw content. this is fanfiction. fanart. etc. people are allowed to write or engage with whatever they want, HOWEVER if you're throwing a fit over not having enough wlw content and can't name a woman off the top of ur head, that seems like a you problem, idk. basically i choose to actively NOT engage with the type of people screaming crying and pissing themselves over content that already exists that they can't be bothered to look for because appearances and #feminism are all that matters.
if you're here, i'm going to get more cunty, not sorry, you were warned.
the demand for wlw rep is absolutely just dog whistling to seem holier than thou, and like, whatever, most of this shit originates on twitter and tiktok and i've never listened to a word a twitter or tiktok user has said and i won't start now so on the whole i can just put my metaphorical headphones on and tune it out and keep doing my thing, yk? but when it permeates my little den of horror and my brain starts scratching itself, well, i find that sometimes i need to be an asshole and sometimes is right now.
it's not actually a fandom sexism/misogyny issue it's an issue of wanting validation to enjoy certain things, because those things are only cool if the hivemind says so, right? i'm no political expert but i know enough to know that cultlike thought patterns don't lead anywhere good. i've seen zombie movies. i live in america. LOL.
i always joke about how i'd rather die than have my favorite ships become popular (i.e. pandalily, bartydora, lilycissa, etc) but the reason i say that is because a. it breeds discourse that i don't care about, and b. i don't want a bunch of people engaging with content they're not actually interested in just to seem woke or stay on top of trends. it just makes things worse for the people who actually enjoy it.
and while i have your attention, and while i'm being a bitch, wanna know one of the big reasons i think people are crying and whining about the 'lack of wlw rep'? they want other people to care so they don't have to. of course, they don't realize other people already dooooo care, because they're too terrified to sort by anything other than hits on ao3, but that's neither here nor there. no, what they want is for some big strong heavenly god to bite the bullet and characterize these women that, let's be frank, are names on a page and nothing more, so they don't have to. so they can keep on keeping on with the characters they DO care about and toss something around every once and a while about (insert megaviral wlw fic that doesn't exist) to avoid claims of sexism & lesbophobia. AND AS A DISCLAIMER! i don't think people should feel the need to care about a bunch of random characters if they don't want to. once again, this is fanfiction. do whatever the fuck you want. i promise it makes things so much more fun and chill. just because i wanna characterize the shit out of pandora fucking lovegood, i'd never demand anyone else does, and that's the crux of it, isn't it?
this is why it also bugs me when i see posts like 'omg i don't even care who the ship is, i just love sapphics!' or smth along those lines because like, yeah, i love women and i love when women fuck each other and love each other, but i'm not just gonna care about a ship because it's two women. if i did, i'd be more than happy with the pg spoonfed #girlcore sapphic representation in mass media, because half the time it's just two white girls named rachel and brookleighanna whose only defining character traits are that they're gay. nothing more. and sorry, but i'd rather have no wlw content than that. i can't enjoy a ship if i haven't rotated them to hell and back like a rotisserie chicken in my silly little head, often before i've even consumed any content about them. that's the fun of it! i sent like 12 voice messages about a ship i don't even care about that much one time just because i took a shower and had a lot of thoughts. does that mean i'm going to attempt to make them a cornerstone of the Fandom As A Whole and be treated like a celebrity over it? fuck no. i'm just here because i like to have fun and talk to people about characters we all enjoy and create so much lore in my head that only 2 people will ever know about simply because i'm passionate about it and that passion is really enjoyable to me. fandom is a community to me, not a hierarchy, like tiktok or twitter would have you believe, and i think that's what this whole conversation about wlw rep is missing right from the jump. (ta da! i circled back to the point at hand in the end. my tangent had a point!)
yeah so that's my two cents. lol.
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silk-scarlet-ribbons · 9 months ago
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I binge-read (which, I'll admit, doesn't do your pacing justice. Planning on rereading it slower lol) your work "children of the stars" and i have. so many (positive) thoughts
I don't usually read sa recovery fics coz I feel like it's common for authors to emphasize the pain more than the recovery-- which, coz fanfic is usually used to vent, isn't bad per se, its just not my thing -- but i was really pleasantly surprised by yours. I love how you express how fucked Tim's situation is while in Jason's POV coz you never really take away from it, while still portraying the distress that he feels and the forced (by law) compliance that often comes with SA by authority figures. How Jason has to walk himself through putting the kid over his anger is gut-wrenchingly amazing (esp with taking the Pit into account), and how Jason works on himself and is generally happier for/because of Tim genuinely made me have to stand up in certain parts. It shows how much Jason doesn't want his own experiences to repeat (both with his alluded to childhood, and with Bruce) and proves how different he is to the character Tim's initially been threatened with. That eventually crescendoing into him calling the exact person he's so cautious of being like??? Actually made me want to die (in a good way).
You also make sure to still express that Tim is a child, which I really appreciated coz i feel like when younger people go through that, it tends to be made into a "step into maturity". Tim just. God, I cried so hard at the "I'll be brave until you get there". The idea that he thinks it'll happen again contrasted with the trust he has in Jason is so aauuuugggghh
Also?? I really really related to Dick in this particular work because of how you portrayed his own reactions and experiences. Coping by taking on responsibility and then having to shed that abruptly when someone else has experienced a similar situation was something I really really liked your approach to. Especially after he finds that Tim has the same/similar trigger to him?? Every different experience with SA that you wrote hit so hard. Definitely one of my favorite reps so far. God. I love all of your character writing. DUDE ALSO WITH BRUCE?? ALFRED?? MARCO?? You described all of the bat's grief and longing for what was so welllll.
Just. Really really refreshing read, 100% gonna go through the rest of your works. Sorry if this was long winded or annoying lol, feel free to disregard if you want to. Either way, thank you so much for posting that (for free!) and I look forward to future chapters if you write any more :)
in case you were wondering, anon, this reply is so late because i spent the last week crying over it <3 /lh
Ohhh man oh man. OH MAN. OH MAN! this is honestly so kind,,, jkjkjdfkjdf Jason and Tim's journeys in CotS as they try to rationalize with what happened to them while still allowing themselves to be juvenile, somehow, was basically a cornerstone in the fic, and I'm so beyond excited and grateful that there are people who genuinely enjoyed that aspect of it. AND DICK, MY BELOVED.... I could never leave him out of it either, I love that guy.
It just means the world to me that you enjoyed this so much? Idk it's like the horrors of being perceived but they're not horrors, they're joys. The joys of having my fic perceived. Grief is one of my favorite things to write for how powerful it is, and getting this kind of feedback only makes me want to keep going (especially now, when I've been hitting a dearth of creativity, lol).
I have one more official chapter planned for CotS--- it's proving to be the hardest to write, because on my life I hate finishing things. Sometimes I can't finish things. But this makes me want to finish it just to give this fic's wonderful, wonderful readers a conclusion.
This was not annoying at all-- I genuinely read it, like, seven-eight times. It was an absolute light for my entire week. Never apologize for doing this for the works you love, I promise you we are reading and we are cherishing.
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wisteriagoesvroom · 4 months ago
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hey :)) got any hopes for the race? who do you think is going to be in the top 3? (i'm just hoping for no in-team drama, but maybe that's bc i'm new lol) - @monegasquess
no in-team drama -> oh man @monegasquess you're gonna get me yapping. i feel like we've entered f1 at such a sanitised / different age to what it was before but there always was, is, and will be ✨drama ✨... what form it takes i don't know!
but it is certainly interesting compared to even 5 years ago how the public narratives have changed and how much teams (or maybe specifically ferrari and mclaren as examples) actively rely on happy-brotherly driver narratives to market the sport to new audiences (people like us) now. even with red bull i get the sense that the only reason we're not seeing inter-driver drama is because checo knows exactly where he stands and what is role in the team is, which is definitely interesting to watch. we are experiencing max in the kind of... moon waxing phase because he already has 3 WDCs but we're also seeing indications of how volatile he can get when there's a hint of challenge to getting him that WDC, like silverstone, austria, hungary. it seems like a very different type of drama to the danil/pierre/alex albon eras where they were younger drivers feeling like they had a lot to prove to each other as much as the team... but i digress.
where we're at in the season now makes for extremely compelling racing, especially given the almost clean sweep max made last year / what a friend of mine called "max's leisure sunday morning drive" to p1 every time lol. and this is not to downplay that he is a once in a generation driver who wrangles magic out of the car - due to a variety of reasons it hasn't been easy for him this year and that's what makes for great viewing too: added stakes.
TANGENT ASIDE, my personal hopes for the race... from a mclaren pov....
obviously i'd like an oscar podium in spa (tho a win would be stellar). he's driving well and idk anything about the track conditions or whether they favour the car but consensus seems to be that the orange car is a rocketship whichever way you slice it, so. but also. maybe something people don't talk about as much is how much driver synergy is actually required - amongst the other engineering prowess obviously and huge credit to andrea and team here - to get the car developed to this point. lando and oscar are clearly very evenly matched in skill at the moment. to me, in an oversimplified way, lando has better tyre management, and oscar is better on attack. and also i am thinking about how andrea says it seems lando and oscar discuss the car amongst themselves before they deliver feedback so they are on the same page. so it'll be exciting to see them battle wheel to wheel more... and certainly not without drama.
there also was a really funny and accurate post about how mclaren's DNA has been kind of... repositioned publicly to be all chummy chummy but that's probably going to change if the two drivers ever end up fighting in earnest for a WDC. idk. there are a lot of unknowns. there are a lot of possibilities. there's a reason why fic is the fun sandbox to explore those because we also just never know what might happen with the reg changes by '26 which could toss mclaren all the way back to middle of the pack, it's incredibly hard to say.
one thing for sure though. is that until oscar gets his wdc (which in my biased but also strident opinion he will in his career)... i am unfortunately buckled tf up to watch lmao.
and the sport will change again with the arrival of new talent, new marketing, new audience acquisition, the direction that Liberty Media i.e. the owners want to take it (more street tracks...eugh brother eugh)... so who knows, genuinely.
anyway your ask about this particular race weekend turned into a much longer essay centred around my interest in oscar and the future of the sport sooooo uh yeah staying true to my rep as yappatron 3000 i guess. but with summer break coming up and new folks following the sport all the time, i thought it was worth chatting about!
thank you for the question!
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strangertheories · 2 years ago
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Honestly, byler to me has become a stressful 'thing' now i cannot even enjoy it due to the whole discourse and drama surrounding it lol. Also it feels like the shipping culture kinda died because people just stopped shipping things for fun but it became a match where you have to prove your ship's 'validity' 'morality' or how it actually exists in canon and it should exist in canon (for this and that reason), and you have to constantly prove yourself that you are a master analysist and you Get The Narrative and that's why you ship this ship and if it doesnt become canon then it means the writing is dumb/poor and im like..? You dont really have to do all that and i get that sometimes feeling so passionately about shipping is natural part of fandom and i have been there and done that too, but this whole narrative and mindset surronding it is just really tiring. if a ship makes you this stressed and traumatized and if it happens you say stuff like 'imma kms' maybe just kinda take a step back idk. I ship ron/nce and i adore their dynamic, but i am well aware that it is not going to happen even if i see a certain level of dynamic between nancy and robin. and i get that it is different for will since will is canonically into mike now but the overall point still stands. you can still like a ship even if it doesnt become canon you dont have to try so hard to prove its existence or validity since the shipping is usually supposed to be... fun.
Anon, I'm convinced I somehow sent this to myself because I'm exactly the same. I get being critical of the show's queer rep and plot if Byler isn't canon or being disappointed which we saw a lot of post volume 2, but yeah. Being a Byler shipper has become not fun™ and it's become a requirement that you think it's going to be endgame in order for you to ship it. And I also think the sense of superiority a lot of Byler shippers have about being great critical thinkers or having media literacy can make it feel scary to ever question anything anyone ever says, although most people were actually quite supportive when I spoke about this. All of that to say, letting go of Byler endgame before S4 has been great for me; I love analysing and theorising about Byler without the pressure of needing it to be canon.
And I know people will read this as "you shouldn't be bothered by the show using Will" but what I and I believe the anon is trying to say is that fandom should be built off of fun and wanting your ship to have content because you enjoy it, not because you're terrified it's not gonna be canon. Easier said than done, but I think you need to take care of yourself and your mental health too. I'm not famous or anything but I have quite a few followers now and I'm not going to lie or guarantee 100000% that it will be canon because I just do not know and I genuinely think people's mental health will be damaged because they've been hyping up an expectation of ST5 for years.
If shipping Byler has become too stressful for you, try take a break for a bit (I've been posting less over the last few months partially because of this too). Especially since we all have hiatus brain where expectations and theories become more and more wild because we have to keep digging deeper into the same content. I'm so scared that S5 will come out and it doesn't happen because I like a lot of people in this fan community and if Byler isn't canon, we'll get angry posts for a couple of months and maybe some theories about interference or deleted scenes (this happen post S4 a bit as well) but then it's gone ): the community revolves more about being 100% sure Byler will happen instead of enjoying the pairing of Mike and Will so without canon Byler, I don't know what will remain.
Thanks for the ask, anon. Also Ronance forever! <3
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captainclickycat · 7 months ago
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12 and 21, for the Good Omens asks
Thanks!
12. Has your interaction with the good omens fandom been overall good or bad?
Definitely both. As a franchise it’s definitely a lot of fun to talk about and engage in fun little scenarios and headcanons for. The source material is quirky and funny but also deep and thought-provoking, which is a really good combination when it comes to these things. I think my favourite part was always the “Crowley invented this” meme. Remember how there was that running joke where you’d point to some everyday annoyance or inconvenience and say “Crowley did that”? Loved that. Great fun. Genuinely quite therapeutic.
The bad part was, maybe not surprisingly, The Discourse. And listen, as far as the question of “should series 1 be considered Actual Queer Rep” goes, I think there are good arguments on both sides. It’s a complicated topic and obviously a lot of people are going to be bringing their personal feelings and experiences to the table. But like so many internet arguments, any kind of nuance got very quickly drowned in the sea of people obnoxiously trying to shut down anything contrary to what they thought and insisting that anyone who disagreed with them must be morally bad in some way. Like, the people who acted like it was the end of the world if anyone said anything even mildly critical of the way it handled things caused me a lot more anger and frustration than anything Good Omens itself ever did or didn’t do.
The other downside was, to be honest, I never really liked the level of involvement the author had with the fandom, or the way some fans acted (and still act) about him. I don’t like “word of god” at the best of times, I don’t think author comments should be considered “canon” or that anyone should have to take them into account in their interpretation of the material, and with GO that sort of thing was really difficult to avoid. Like it was just expected that everyone was going to listen to what Neil Gaiman said on twitter or whatever and factor it into their reading, and as a result sometimes you’d see people insisting that “such and such is canon” when hardly anyone who just watched the show and took it at face value would come away with that as an interpretation. Like, you shouldn’t have to do background research to have a full understanding of something! I don’t care what Neil Gaiman said on bloody twitter and I shouldn’t have to!
Anyway, those were my major bugbears, but apart from that it’s been a lot of fun, especially in the early days of series 1. I love reading fics that capture the story’s tone and the characters; they’re very fun and endearing characters to engage with and honestly just to play with like dolls in a sandpit. My best experiences with the fandom have primarily been laughing at posts going “lol Crowley glues pound coins to the pavement and then tries to pick them up the next day”. I’m not as active in the fandom these days but I’d still like more of that.
21. do you prefer crowley's hair from s1 or s2? why?
That’s tricky. The colour in S2 is closer to the sort of colour I’d prefer to have myself, and it wasn’t a bad look by any stretch, but the more flashy and obviously-dyed quality maybe wasn’t quite… fitting? Idk. Maybe the first series, just because I preferred the first series in general.
Good Omens ask game
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ur-local-demon1 · 2 years ago
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My thoughts on the Owl House finale
So you guys got the silent treatment from me for a while, sorry about that lol. I’m finally back (sorta) to briefly talk about the Owl House Finale, and I might dive deeper into analyses and shit as a future video on my YouTube channel. I’ll talk both about what I didn’t like, and what I did like in that order so we can end this post on a good note. Here we go!
If you click keep reading, you’re okay with seeing spoilers for watching and dreaming.
I didn’t like:
Not getting to know more about the whole Caleb - Belos - Evelyn - Hunter situation. Hunter still doesn’t know that Flapjack used to be Caleb’s/Evelyn’s palisman, that he is technically related to the Clawthornes, or that Caleb stopped being a witch hunter since he legit dated one. I would have given an organ to live in a universe where in the five seasons this show deserved, there would have been an episode where idk, Hunter would have communed with the dead and got moral support from great great great great great [...] Grandpa Caleb and Grandma Evelyn. 
The close to no explanation as to why the Titan was trapped in that in-between space, why was Luz here and not actually dead, and why couldn’t he use the last of his magic to go back himself. We don’t know a lot about papa titan and it’s sad because I really like him. The past of the boiling isles as a whole is still a very abstract concept, even the characters don’t know a lot about it, or the truth anyway. 
Willow’s body in the time skip. Now I believe this is the point where people are rolling their eyes at me, but that’s okay I stand by what I’m about to say. If you write in representation in any piece of media you are creating, you can’t just write it out afterwards. Allow me, a mid-sized girl with a body shape similar to pre-time skip Willow, to deconstruct the arguments used against the people who spoke out about it. “Isn’t losing weight a good thing?” --> It depends on why someone lost weight, but in Willow’s case, no since she isn’t a real person. She’s fat rep. She was written to be fat to represent fat people, especially potential fat kids who watch the owl house and want to see people like them on screen. “She works out everyday, and she’s a flyer derby player, of course she lost weight” Skinny ≠ healthy + Fat ≠ unhealthy. You can be fat and an amazing athlete. Wrestlers are often fat and it gives them an advantage. You can be fat and also have visible muscles in other parts of your body like your legs or arms. If she was a real person, that wouldn’t be a problem obviously, but she’s not. The only reason she is fat is for us to have representation and see ourselves on screen. We would have went crazy if a tv show announced that the main character is a lesbian, only that in the final season she starts dating a man because she found out she was just confused or some shit. That’s basically what happened with Willow. Anyway, much love to the animators who tried to fix the damage and draw her with an accurate body type in some scenes here and there of the time skip.
What I did like: 
Belos’ death. A pathetic death for a pathetic man. The panic settling in him as he slowly realises that there is no way out for him, the last futile attempt at fooling someone in hopes of getting his power back, the growing frustration the more he understands he has truly lost all control over everything, even his own body, while still refusing to admit he inflicted this fate upon himself for absolutely no logical reason. He isn’t given a death where he breaks down and sees the error of his ways with terror as the end closes in on him, no. He is crushed, much like his dreams of being the brave martyr witch hunter general who saved humanity through any way possible. 
Luz’s death. A slow, quiet, painful yet still beautiful moment that she somehow accepted. Much like Luz, no one knew what to say, and the small moment where we didn’t know what would happen to her were genuine torture. I’m a sucker for MC’s who die but not really (Hi Anne, Adora, Magnus, Hazel and now Luz.)
Papa Titan. Follow up, Papa titan being genderqueer/nonbinary idk, a Quing. 
The fact that there is a way for Luz to go back to the boiling isles and the human realm. Really happy they didn’t pull a second amphibia parallel lol. 
LILIT’S HARPY LOOK AAAAAAH-
Alador x Darius, I see you (Darius’ blush, him shaking Alador like a ragdoll). I have a thing for ships that barely get talked about in canon and are about old gays.
WAFFLES ToT
Amity’s new hair. Some of my friends don’t like it but oh well. The little Grom Queen crown crystals fit her. 
THE COUPLES EXCHANGING JEWELRY
The ending scene. We got to see Luz’s quince (kinda, I still would have loved a full episode but oh well). The fourth wall break where everyone says bye to the collector but also to us, seeing all the characters we’ve loved for years grouped together to celebrate this. It’s bittersweet, mostly sweet.
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lcndonboysstuff · 6 months ago
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i’m a big fan of taylor’s music even if i’ve cooled on it post midnights. i’m most excited for the rep section because that’s my favourite album of hers. it’s just for the ttpd section i genuinely won’t know what’s going on. idk if i should listen to it more before i go to make it more enjoyable..?
You can maybe just "listen" to the songs of ttpd, just don't look at the lyrics cause they're atrocious imo.
Also, I like rep too! Gorgeous was the song through which I came to know about Taylor lmao. Prior to that, I did hear about her but never really listened. Then, I read about that Kanye fiasco and felt real bad for her. Love the song Delicate and the meaning behind it! After that she again fizzled out of my playlists😂 until Evermore and Willow. I loved Willow and listened it on loop lmao. Then I started loving Exile and still quite often say, "I think I've seen this film before"😅😂
This is becoming lengthy, but oh boy, since I've started, let's finish.
I always used to find TS pretentious and since people loved her, I was like, maybe it's a me thing. Then I listened to "Folkmore" and started warming towards her for some reason, and listened to Lover, 1989. Then Midnights announcement came and once again, I thought midnights was pretentious af, and told myself that it was a me thing. Didn't listen to any of the songs from that one until Instagram reels forced me to honestly.
Ttpd I only listened to Fortnight, So Long London (love the production of SLL but not the lyrics or sentiment behind it). And I tried listening to the Anthology but.... fell asleep😶🤐.
yeah actually i think i’ll just listen to the ones in the set.
same i liked rep and then heard me! and yntcd during lover era but i didn’t actively listen. i became a bigger fan after folklore and evermore those are definitely two of her best.
i liked midnights initially then as time when on i realised i don’t think it’s a high quality album. i still find it enjoyable though.
did not like ttpd at all. sometimes i wonder if i still liked her as a person would i have convinced myself that i liked it? i’m not sure.
lol at the falling asleep part. there’s definitely some ok songs on there i just have no desire to revisit them after my first listen. i will say i’m a fan of “who’s afraid of little old me” and “florida”though.
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lunarssong · 6 months ago
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I dunno man maybe wlw fans are tired of seeing perfectly good (sometimes better) ships get ignored in favor of shitty queerbait like destiel. Genuinely watch a show which actually loves you. If you love mlm, watch promare.
so first of all, combing through the tags on a huge post to find people who disagree with you is weird behavior, lol. second of all, it's not even just the show, it's the network more than anything
also as much as i prefer not getting queerbaited, i'm not going to watch a show JUST because it has a canon gay ship? i like supernatural for the found family and the accurate portrayal of complicated blood relations and the chaos and the messiness of it. i LIKE the bad writing! it's entertaining!
like, idk how to tell you this, but i'm an adult and i've moved past being ashamed to enjoy things that are flawed. and again, this competition is about fanon and fandom, not just about canonicity. it's not about best canon queer rep, it's a poll about ao3! the supernatural fandom is directly relevant to the conversations and older fandom site purges that lead to ao3's creation in the first place
anyway i'm just tired of people treating wlw ships like they're inherently superior or that the reason they're good is literally just that there's no men ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it just gives off gold star lesbian vibes to me and it's very uncomfortable. not to mention it's a disservice to lesbian ships to not talk about their actual dynamic or cultural impact or whatever and instead only talk about how they're lesbians
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s-k-y-l-a-r-13 · 1 year ago
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I genuinely don't know what happened with Karlie and Taylor years ago, and now everyone freaking out makes me wish I could get the backstory?
hmm this is complicated because I can tell you what the rumors are but nothing has been confirmed either way. I do want to voice that I am not a late stage Kaylor (although I wouldn't hate it) and swifties just need to stop hating on any other human for what we think we know. Also there are swifties out there that have the receipts and could answer this better and I'm just kind of being lazy and telling you this all from memory, so take it with a grain of salt.
I'm not sure if you, anon, just don't know who Karlie is to Taylor or if you don't know about the falling out so I'll try to keep it short.
Many Gaylors (those who believe Taylor Swift is queer) believe Karlie Kloss and Taylor Swift dated, hence their ship name, Kaylor. There is sooo much proof towards this being true and I would encourage you to look up Kaylor Timeline (on Tumblr or Google the Internet is covered with it despite Tree's best efforts lol) if you want to know the truth about their relationship. After last night it is important to highlight that on a spontaneous trip down to Big Sur (an iconic trip for Kaylor and possibly the beginning of their relationship) Taylor played 1989 for Karlie and it was the first time anyone outside of the people who made the album happen, had heard it. So Karlie being at the show where Taylor announces the re-release is CRAZYYY.
Now for the falling out...
The most common belief is that Karlie knew that Scooter was going to buy Taylor's master's and Karlie kind of helped him. Scooter was Karlie's manager at this time (she has since left him) so there is no doubt they had some sort of relationship whether professional or not. Although, it seems to appear that at least at one point it was more of a friendship as mere months after Taylor condoned Scooter, Karlie and Josh had a boating day with Scooter and his wife as well as some others. So that's the first sight of public betrayal. Also, keep in mind Ithaca Holdings is what financially sponsored 🛴's move and Ithaca has ties back to Joshua Kushner's (KK's husband) company. Now I don't think it's that deep that Josh was also in on it, but it is worth noting. Also 🛴 had been posting happy birthdays to Karlie for years making it apparent they were friends at some point. It's all just shady and whether Karlie knew about the buying of the master's her publicly hanging out with 🛴 after is shady (esp bc she posted it on insta so she wasn't trying to hide it). That being said, could have Karlie been in some contract with 🛴 where she had to stay under his management and he got to dictate in some way what she posted on her accounts? idk maybe 🛴 was just using karlie to get at Taylor. What we do know is after this "falling out" Karlie took a girl crew to the Rep Tour for her "bachelorette party" and after the concert is the last picture/sighting we get of Kaylor together. Karlie then had two separate weddings with Josh, and Taylor did not show up to either. Of course Taylor was on tour so she blamed that, but if the allegations of just being best friends are true, you make it to your best friend's wedding. If this is your lover, except for PR no way in heck am I going to endure a day of her marrying her beard sooo I don't really blame Tay for not going.
Like I said, this is all from memory and honestly if you Google Taylor/Karlie Kloss falling out you can get more info
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kisssatoru · 2 years ago
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17 Questions for 17 People
— was tagged by @skelemen and felt like this was necessary just to get to know me better (btw tysm for tagging meee)<3
1. Nicknames: nini (nothing else really 😭)
2. Zodiac: capricorn sun, cancer moon, virgo rising (recipe for disaster if you ask me)
3. Height: 5’5/5’6 (recently found this out & never been more shook in my life — i really went all my life believing i was 5’2…the wildness)
4. Last thing I googled: “why do police always pull over sports cars” (and when i found out why i felt sooo dumb bc it’s obviously either bc they’re curious about the car or know that the driver will speed bc sports cars are designed for that LOL the more you know smh)
5. Song stuck in my head: poltergeist! by corpse (also never satisfied by corpse & in the middle by tokyos revenge)
6.Number of people you follow: 23! haven’t posted any of my work yet so that’s to be expected (meaning i rly only want to follow certain writers and let the rest come to me if they want the mutuals)
7. Amount of sleep you get: i usually get like 10hrs but sometimes i’ll slide by with 4/5 hours (one time i slept for almost 18hrs…so if i’m left alone with no obligations for the day, i’ll sleep the day away fr — if i’m not playing games or sumn)
8. Lucky numbers: 5 and only 5 :))
9. Dream job: i thought it was being a psychologist but i’ve recently realized that even tho it’s going to be hard, i want to still pursue writing and being an author because it’s my real passion :”) wanna be good enough to get some of my work published and hopefully have some turned into movies or shows :0 i’d genuinely pass away for an opportunity like that LOL
10. What are you currently wearing: a black zoro hoodie (gotta rep my bb), black sweatpants, black/white converse with black socks (my fav colour is black so…)
11. Movies/books that summarize me: hmm no movies or books but poets like ranata suzuki, r.h. sin and haruki murakami that all have this beautiful way of speaking and describing love, having unique outlooks on love/heartbreak and someone’s individuality. i find their work really beautiful, and often read my favourite quotes from them over and over just because !
12. What is your favourite instrument: definitely either a violin, flute or piano!
13. Favourite song right now: warning by nbdy
14. Describe your aesthetic: i would say alt! or comfy? idk, i’m just usually in all black or other dark, neutral colours, definitely someone that just prefers comfy and dark anything (tho sometimes i’ll get this rly weird urge to do a pink theme…)
15. Favourite author: myself ;) i actually don’t know tho
16. Favourite animal noise: ok when kittens or puppies fall asleep and make those little noises? idk how to explain but omfg i melt every single time or when puppies want something and they do that little begging thing kind of like “nn nn nn” IDK IM BAD AT EXPLAINING STUFF BUT ITS SO CUTE PLS
17. Random fact about myself: i don’t usually initiate a convo with someone i like but when it comes to ppl with fluffy hair and dark eyes 🧍🏽‍♀️suddenly my confidence is through the roof and i feel like i can conquer the entire world LOL IDK WHAT IT ISSHHJS
17 is a lot of ppl to tag when you’re a new acc again so ummm here’s a few: @arcanedevil @aki-and-saltfish @broken-freedom <33
17 Questions for 17 People
Tagged by @sheseestheghosts. It's been so long since I've done one of theses.
1. Nicknames: Kat, skeleman, the skelemanager
2. Zodiac: Aqua Sun, Pisces Moon, Gemini Rising
3. Height: 5'3" (probably actually 5'2" but give me that extra inch)
4. Last thing I Googled: Prophylaxis Dental -- I just had a dentist appointment today 
5. Song stuck in my head: fuK u lol by Corpse
6. Number of people you follow: 48 -- I'm still getting back into the swing of things
7. Amount of sleep you get: It really depends. I can sometimes sleep for 10 hours for a few days, and then the next few days I only sleep like 4 hours.
8. Lucky numbers: 16
9. Dream job: Published author that gets to write for a living and rely solely on that income
10. What are you currently wearing: Corpse hoodie, no pants, socks, a blanket. I'm big chilling.
11. Movies/books that summarize me: I honestly have no clue. I would say the books I write myself would summarize me the best since I put pieces of myself into each one.
12. What is your favorite instrument: I have no clue. I'm very much not musically inclined
13. Favorite song right now: Out of Touch
14. Describe your aesthetic: Alt? I guess. I don't know what my aesthetic is. I wear all black, my hair is usually colored most of the time. We can go with alternative trash panda.
15. Favorite author: Probably tied between Neil Gaiman and Mo Xiang Tong Xiu
16. Favorite animal noise: NOISE? Uhhhhh..... I guess tiny kitten squeaks.
17. Random fact about myself: I have never broken a bone before, but I really want to know what it feels like. I don't want to actually break a bone, but I want to know what it's like.
I definitely don't have 17 people to tag, so I will tag who I can:
@alienbaby @eternalawakenings @escuinclebrandon @earthdomdirtbag @kisssatoru @yourblackhearts
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kingprinceleo · 2 years ago
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Hello! I hope you don't mind this sudden ask, but I would like to inquire about the vampire wedding ceremony post you made!
Do you already have details for the whole ceremony planned out? I noticed the candles they were holding; were those to represent something akin to rings? And I'm curious about the smiling thing too!
Jdjsbj sorry if this is going on too long but I love seeing world building and culture development!! If you don't mind talking about it, I would love to hear!
oh boy i love sudden asks!!!!!!! /gen i dont have everything planned out but im!! getting there!! and having alotta fun the candles dont rep rings, in fact i still gotta figure that out lol, idk if they have rings or smth else. The candles represent the individual person holding it and!
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the roses they wear between them make the infinity sign, bc vampires hopefully (if life works out) live forever, and hope that their courtship does too!! so they uh. light it on fire with the candles, showing the union between them
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(my first sketch of it ashbhsbja) and for the smiling thing, i tried my best to explain it in the comic but, vampires live forever! its a huge commitment having a partner (or multiple) for life. So its a tradition to prove how ready and serious you are for the commitment by keeping a straight face. Shadow wasnt aware of this fact, though it wasnt a problem for him sdfbdhbfhj, during their own ceremony, n he got unnerved as hell when sonic wouldnt crack any kind of grin or smirk like the dumbass he is other additional things bouncing around in my skull right now!! an old tradition thats now very outdated is vampires needing to turn their partners on ceremony day there is So much red, no white wedding dresses (prone to stains :[ ), only red everywhere dhbjfhdfh they trade some kind of scar (still figuring it out) but like, i think a majority of vampires are mate for life, and ive been having a hard time putting this together myself but like *some* kind of soulmate thing??? not like love at first sight, but they meet a person or people that theyre subconsciously drawn to, its not something they can actively notice or have control over, and it looks different for everyone (some vampires never experience this at all, completely happy on their own, heehoo aro go brrr) like blaze goes uwahhh and kicks her legs in bed daydreaming about miss amy while sonic genuinely just -happens- to end up in the same places shadow is and then wants to fight him. but the more time they spend around the person, the more its purely instinctual and they just Know that thats the one, something so deep in the core of their person, a rlly strong gut feeling. BUT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POINT, they exchange some kind of psychical mark, that scars over, another thing with the theme of being permanent and lasting forever, that shows that theyre partners, nothing big though, like a little nic in the skin that doesnt hurt too much, or like some kind of tattoo symbol thing?? just kinda spitballing to myself now lol WAHHH i gen love thinking about worldbuilding stuff its so fun,,,,
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desidarling123 · 4 years ago
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FACT CHECK: Did JKR sue people for writing Wolfstar fanfiction? [FALSE] [with sources]
So, if you're at all active in the HP fandom, and ESPECIALLY if you're on TikTok, you've likely come across a post or video claiming the following:
JKR LITERALLY SUED PEOPLE OVER WOLFSTAR FANFICTION! AND THAT'S ALSO WHY SHE MADE REMADORA CANON -- TO SPITE THE SHIPPERS!
I'm not sure who first started this claim or how its various permutations grew, but it spread at the speed of light across social media. This widely-circulated meme summarizes it:
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For the LONGEST time, I didn't know what to make of it. The claims were vague enough that they seemed like they could be true -- after all, JKR is a megacunt and a renowned TERF. You don't need to fact-check either of those things.
But then -- for the first time ever -- I came across a video on TikTok claiming that what was being said was NOT true, and that it was being used SPECIFICALLY to stir up drama. Which was... crazy, to say least.
And that led me, well, to do my own research & fact-check. I've taken the original video's structure and added some exposition as well.
So here's the truth:
That 2003 case the above meme refers to? Not even REMOTELY what the situation was about. Hell, not even CLOSE.
In 2003, JKR sent a cease-and-desist letter to an explicit adult HP fan fiction website, called "Restricted Section". Here's the letter:
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As the above letter states, the site was sent a notice because of overarching concerns that minors would accidentally stumble onto the sexually explicit content the site hosted after searching up 'Harry Potter'.
The hand-wringing over minor safety probably seems dated now, but it was, in fact, standard practice in the early 2000s - sexually explicit fan content was being removed across the internet for those exact concerns. In fact, just the year before, in 2002, fanfiction.net was purged of NC-17 content (which would happen one more time, in 2012).
I feel ridiculous stating it, but just to be clear -- in the above letter and all my subsequent research, there's NO evidence she went after Wolfstar -- or any ship, for that matter -- directly.
In fact, the letter goes an extra mile to declare that "our clients (JKR) make no complaint about innocent fan fiction written by genuine Harry Potter fans", but that, "there is plainly a very real risk that impressionable children... will be directed... to your sexually explicit website".
But that leads in nicely to the next point -- the website DIDN'T shut down, as per the letter's request. Instead, they added password protection to ensure only members older than 17 were accessing it.
OK, but why did JKR and Warner Bros go after this site in the first place? Most believe it was because of a widely-publicized article in THE SCOTSMAN that talked about the website. But, once again, this article doesn't go after Wolfstar in particular -- it only goes after Harry x Draco and Harry x Snape. The inclusion of latter was arguably what generated the biggest controversy -- the pairing of Harry, a fictional minor, with an adult character, in slash stories largely written by adult heterosexual women, was not one that could be cast in a good light to the general public. It's hardly a surprise JKR's lawyers sought to do something before the controversy got out of hand and worried parents started to make calls.
What I said before still goes, though. The legal core of the issue was ALWAYS to do NOT with the ships, but the EXPLICIT NATURE of the work -- and the (very real) concerns that the series' then-mostly-under-18 readership could find said works with very little as far as guardrails were concerned. (I know, because I was one of those kids)
TLDR; JKR did NOT sue people over Wolfstar fanfiction, she sent a cease-and-desist notice to a website that was not taking adequate precautions to prevent minors from accessing the explicit adult content on the site.
To be clear -- this is not meant to be a statement on what to ENJOY in your fandom ships. You can ship Wolfstar, Remadora, both, neither -- it really doesn't matter. I think the fandom is critical enough of the author to have reclaimed her work on our own terms, and people should be allowed to just, idk enjoy things.
But propagating straight-up falsehoods is dangerous, especially when it comes at the expense of 1) a safe fandom environment (see: the current fandom ship wars between Remadora and Wolfstar, which are difficult to watch) and 2) serves as a distraction from the ACTUAL garbage JKR engages in (of which there is plenty -- no need to make it up lol).
Also, truth be told -- inter-fandom ship wars don't generally add anything productive to the necessary conversations that need to be had about her works. The thought that dashing fan ships was a key motivator in her writing rather than, I don't know, plot concerns, is ludicrous on face, and gives fans a level of control over the original writer that just... doesn't exist IRL? And certainly didn't back then?
And again -- the books would have been VERY different series, plot-wise, if Sirius Black HAD lived. Him being in a relationship with Remus, confirmed or implied, has no relation to that decision.
If we have talk Harry Potter, I'd rather talk about just about anything else -- the racism, the misogyny, the lack of any sort of organic queer rep and JKR's inability to just own up to the problems in her works. But the minutiae of ship wars -- and the inevitable stream of disinformation that comes with it, sans any kind of concrete evidence -- is one I'd prefer to pass on.
SOURCES:
Cease-and-Desist Letter Copy: http://archive.is/HTLsq
THE SCOTSMAN Article: http://archive.is/VdEaY
Restricted Section Updates Page:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030815233612/http://www.restrictedsection.org/news.php
BONUS: The original TikTok video I came across whose structure and sources I shamelessly stole to read and build out my argument. I copied a lot of their wording because it explained it better than I could, you just get some bonus snarky commentary from yours truly
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musclesandhammering · 3 years ago
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I'm not fond of the pairing but from what I've seen General public actually loves Sylki very much. Even the trade reviews called the relationship "genius" which,,,ok. Someone did a poll on various platforms, yt, reddit, fb, twitter etc comparing which ship is better (Lokius or Sylki) and it was Sylki who won by large margin in the end. I suppose mostly they just don't care because it's sci fi and a pairing in a totally unrealistic show, and after Wandavision I guess weird ships are 'in' but yeah it makes you think. But the writers already said they won't give in to the fan pressure bc they have their own story to tell (which ok, valid, you do you) but idk. I guess we will get even more Sylki in second season. Tom already said Loki won't stop searching for her
Sometimes I think casual fans are the most irritating thing about being in a fandom :/
Just as a disclaimer (bc I don’t want people coming for me): I think lokius is really cute, and I love fics/art/headcanons about them, but I never thought they were canonically romantically interested in each other. I never thought lokius was gonna be canon, and I never wanted it to (because I didn’t want ANY romance in the series), so I don’t even include it in my argument against s*lki.
Ok so….. listen. This is gonna be a long ass post, so I’m putting it under a cut. Sorry, anon, but you’re the one that opened the Worm Can.
The viewing public, in general, tends to heavily skew towards heterosexual-presenting ships. Partially because a portion of the general audiences are homophobic, and partially because a lot of non-tumblr fans are so sick of hearing tumblr stans go on and on and on about how they were queerbaited by certain gay ships not becoming canon, when in reality, said ships are trash.
Listen. I sympathise with that. I get that. I know I’m beating a hornet’s nest with this, but…. D*stiel? J*hnlock? St*cky? None of those were written in any way to invoke queer undertones, they were always supposed to be platonic, and tbfh even as platonic relationships the first two are literally toxic and abusive as hell, anyway.
So I definitely understand how a casual straight fan on Twitter or Instagram would see some of those same crazy “we were queerbaited” tumblr stans ranting about lokius not becoming canon and how much s*lki sucks and……. it makes sense that they’d be like “These people are just pissed that their gay ship isn’t canon, that’s why they hate s*lki.”
But here’s the thing. I don’t think those people realise how callous it is to say something like that when the only reason queer kids are so quick to ship any two male characters who express a modicum of affection for one another, is that they’re so fucking starved for representation in the first place, they’re willing to see queer romance in any same-sex interaction. They’re just that desperate. That’s where the whole crazy gay stan thing comes from. And yeah, it’s annoying that these people put their whole chest into defending gay ships that are total trash, but you have to realise why they do it.
So, what I’m saying is, for s*lki shippers- who are already winning, because their straight ship had the privilege of easily becoming canon despite all its flaws- to look at queer people who are frustrated to the point of tears that they were once again conned out of any form of queer rep (for the mcu’s first canon queer character, for gods sake) after actually genuinely being queerbaited this time (with his bisexuality/genderfluidity)….. and to essentially gloat that their straight ship became canon and taunt queer people by saying “oh you’re just desperate for two men to kiss”………… idk, man. It just seems real cold to me. Reeks of straight privilege and heteronormativity.
Ok, so with that being said.. let me respond to your actual ask lol.
I’m not surprised at all that s*lki won the popularity polls. I think a large reason for that is the fact that it was pitted against lokius, which sorta rubs a lot of casual viewers the wrong way for reasons listed above. I’m also not surprised that casual viewers liked it outside of its opposition to lokius- because, um, casual viewers aren’t very smart.
They tend to analyse exactly nothing, they don’t look any deeper than the surface, and if the writers of a show stick a hot man and woman together under a blanket, they eat it up. Because the narrative tells them it’s sweet. Just like the narrative tells them Loki is a greasy asshole who had no character development up until this point, and they eat that up too. Just like the narrative tells them that sylvie’s the best thing since sliced bread, and they eat that up too. Just like the narrative tells them it’s completely in character for Loki to try to subjugate a group of 3 random Mongolians in the middle of the dessert for absolutely no reason other than his “narcissism”, and they eat that up too. Just like the narrative tells them that one throwaway line about liking “a bit of both” is somehow this groundbreaking example of lgbt representation, and they eat that up too……… See the pattern here?
And as far as being concerned about the pseudo-incest angle, I don’t even think casual fans even dug that deep. They literally just saw two main characters- a pretty white woman and a hot white man- doing cool fight scenes together and giving each other goo goo eyes, and they were automatically sold.
And the writers saying “we won’t give in to fan pressure, we have our own story to tell” is honestly complete bullshit. What the hell is the POINT of working for a corporate film company and telling a story on screen if not to please the fans??? They do what they do to get people to watch their shows to get lots of money. That’s literally what they’re there for. Mike Waldron must have a pretty damn inflated sense of self importance if he thinks his own “artistic vision” or what the hell ever is the priority here lmao.
And I wanna be mad about Season 2, I really do. But at this point Season 1 ruined the character so much for me that I legitimately don’t even care what direction they take him in.
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itssolonelyhere · 2 years ago
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Couldn't agree more with everything you said. Now people are saying they headcanon Chrissy as a lesbian and you know why they are saying that. Lesbian Chrissy couldn't be into Eddie. It's okay if they headcanon that, but the only time they mention it is when they want Eddissy shippers to shut up. No fanarts, no fanfics, nothing. It's just so Chrissy doesn't get in the way of Steddie.
And you are so right about Hunter and Eddie. I would even say they would hate Hunter, how he dresses and the music he enjoys because it was never about Eddie being a metalhead. It was always about him being cute. That's why some people in the scene are hesitant to welcome all those news "fans". Only we understand what it's like to constantly be made fun of just because we wear unconventional clothing and listen to rock and roll. And all of sudden many people are claiming to be fans of heavy metal and to love metalheads. New fans are always welcome but the feeling has to be sincere. If it isn't the first opportunity they have to cancel us, they will (like they did to Metallica) and will start making fun of us again.
And let me say...despite all the hostile behaviour in most part of the film, I prefer Hunter over Eddie. I love Eddie with all my heart (and Eddissy too), but I see Hunter as the metalhead I would love to talk to and hang out with. Idk...maybe it is because of the mess in the Eddie fandom.
JFC... I'm 100% cool with headcanons and whatnot. It's fandom, after all. Anything goes. I'm just not a fan of insisting stuff is canon when it's clearly not then calling people names who don't agree.
Making Chrissy a lesbian is such a blatant attempt to get rid of her. These chicks don't care about women in general, especially not queer women. They're using queerness to dispose of a woman in the way of their mlm ship. It's being used as a sword and shield to strike down Eddissy while covering their asses. If anyone criticizes them for it, they can scream misogyny or homophobia. This isn't referring to the people who headcanon her that way affectionately either or genuinely do it for more queer rep. I mean those who do it specifically to erase hellcheer in order for steddie to seem more legitimate. Using the LGBTQIA+ community for their own gratification and fetishes is icky as hell.
Let's be honest. There's a bunch of Jason's in the community that stan Eddie simply for being attractive and quirky. Mostly the former. The rest is just a bonus. He's good bottom material for their ship. And people in the rock/metal scene aren't stupid and know what's going on. Even if some might use the newfound interest to benefit themselves (I've seen posts talking about how ST has helped them get laid lol), everyone has run into folks over the years that poke their heads in, look around, then dip. These days, you have to be more careful than before. Like you mentioned, canceling is a thing. One wrong move and the tides turn. It was only a matter of time before it happened to Metallica. Once something gets really popular (again) or mainstream, all eyes are on it and people start searching for anything in order to bring the hammer of justice down on it. That's the way society is now. Sometimes for good reasons, other times not.
I feel you on Hunter. They both really remind me of people I've met over the years. Hunter as guys I've enjoyed chilling with and talking to. Eddie was the same, but more like the really out-there ones I needed to take in smaller doses.
Actually, that was the whole reason I started liking Eddie in the first place. Initially, I didn't get why everyone was going crazy over him (physical attraction) and I hadn't watched the show yet. I checked out some scenes on YT and it made me super nostalgic. Then BAM! The bastard got me lol. I didn't know who Joseph Quinn was for a while either. That didn't matter to me. I just really appreciated his character. Both him and Hunter. That side doesn't get a whole lot of rep, so it was really great to see.
Unfortunately, fandom can really make things tricky. I have some friends who despise Eddie, simply because of his fans and it's a real shame. I can't blame them though... And there are others who hate Steve for what steddie fans have done/are doing. It sucks since the characters and actors are just doing their thing. It's stans that are the problem. They can either make a fandom a fun safe haven for everyone to flourish and create in or a literal living nightmare. Most of the time, it seems to be the latter. Too many people don't understand boundaries and what's socially repulsive. They feel entitled to the character itself, the actors who play them, and control over the fandom too. Almost like they own them. Somehow became a God in this hellhole and they decide the laws of the land. Really twisted stuff, man.
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