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#did u kno that at the time of nobunaga#who nago is implied to be the retainer of#geisha were typically male#i bring this up because chipp refers to anji as a geisha out of some incomplete understanding#but did you know nago refers to anji as geisha also in jackos route.#once again. reading way too into it LMAO#i say geisha are male. theres a lot to say about the word itself which really just means arts person#what i mean is like. the role of that profession (entertaining) was mainly male#up until it wasnt lmao#the point is. i will say it's more likely that he does think its a bit/chipp is dumb and hes going along with it#but also what if he was just like. well that seems right and i dont know enough abt them to dispute it
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The latest standard pop article refers to Chat and Khem's relationship as a bromance at this rate by the end of this leg of the press tour they will be referred to as brothers 😂
Hey, I'll coalesce these together then, if that's OK. For folks who want to, feel free to use this as a discussion post.
I've had a really long week, I've taken two different cats to the vet since Sunday so I'm not really in the mood to stir up more drama-- but... *makes grand gestures*
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I think the initial reaction to Pond's comment might have been overblown in the sense that it should have been something, given Pond's history of saying shit, that could be ignored. I'm perplexed by Man Suang comms account's decision to double down on this by posting the image with "Man Suang is not a bad movie; Man Suang is not a BL". Since most of the account's followers are already MileApo/Man Suang fans, I'm not sure what they were hoping to accomplish with that statement that could easily be taken the wrong way. Pond needs to say less. But I've also given up on analyzing the state of their PR/comms.
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It is somewhat telling to me that many people who are upset about Pond's comment and the account's statement and general straight washing of the movie are queer, though specific reactions range from actively angry on social media, quietly angry in closed fannish settings (chat, circle, servers, etc), attempt to placate other fans with empathy, or just apathetic towards the point of disengaging [read: me, due to other stress in my life]
Meanwhile, I haven't seen a single queer person go THEY NEVER PROMISED YOU A BL NEVER SAID THEY'D BE A COUPLE OR QUEER YOU'RE THE ONES WHO MADE THAT ASSUMPTION 🤪 So.
First to that--
Strawberry had shared this translation.
I realized, watching it back, this is what the autocaptioning(?)/Mint translator subbed it with:
I'm not sure if it's the lack of clarity in Thai that can be translated either way or the Mint team's translation is less specific while , but Apo also explicitly discussed that he played Khem as closeted, and it does a disservice to Apo's intentionality for the character to straight-wash the movie.
I think ultimately it depends on how one defines BL. From the classicist (ha!) perspective of the origination, BL has specific target demographic audience and definition.
Let's take these specific notes, with citations in the wikipedia entry itself:
Yaoi also known as boys' love and its abbreviation BL, is a genre of fictional media originating in Japan that features homoerotic relationships between male characters. It is typically created by women for women and is thus distinct from bara (gay manga), a genre of homoerotic media marketed to gay men. "BL" is the common term used to describe male-male romance media marketed to women in Japan and much of Asia, though its usage in the West is inconsistent.
Given these specific definitions, I would actually agree without criticism that Pond is correct that Man Suang is not a BL in the same way it takes me out when people call CMBYN a BL because that is not its genre/target demographic. I would agree Man Suang is more arthouse film like CMBYN or Carol or Moonlight, or if we're going back farther, more popluarist like LOTR or Memoirs of a Geisha or Crouching Tiger. Of course these might be different genres, but idea of a popularist film is mean to be watched by everyone, not pushed to a specific demographic (vs. for example, Marvel which is marketed towards boys and young men, but is watched by the general public.)
Similarly, back to the origins of the BL genre, queer romances and queer main characters are not solely limited by the genre of BL. Even aside from Bara, there is Josei as a genre where notable works include Sakura Gari by Yu Watase (author of Fushigi Yugi and Ceres Celestial Legend) and The Carp on the Chopping Block Jumps Twice / The Cornered Mouse Dreams of Cheese. In Seinen, there is My Brother's Husband (the mangaka is a very famous Bara author). If you haven't heard of these, that's fine, but I'm serious about how much extensive understanding I have about the delineation about the nuances of what is "technically" BL and what isn't.
There is a disconnect in the audience's definition and what BOC is trying to communicate, and that's why friction is occurring.
That being SAID, AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, let's again recognize that the definition is about the target audience being young women, and the insistence and tone of which the marketing is pushing how it's NOT for the BL audience (young women) but to everyone is quite boldly misogynist for a company that built its foundation on female consumers. Its tone is overtly that something which is made for young women is somehow inherently "not good", the same way that romcoms are somehow less valuable as art, or boy bands or handsome young singers like Justin Bieber are less talented musicians because of its target audience.
So yes, I do have a problem with the tone they're taking and I think the biting the hand that feeds it comment is spot on.
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Finally, about Apo tweeting and deleting. I think he held and articulated himself well in interviews, and he's been insanely patient and tolerant these past few weeks (see: laris). I actually really relate to him in that sense because I can be calm and rational but sometimes I can't help but run my mouth. I held off on answering these because I've been so stressed and just couldn't handle whatever anger it might rile up.
Expecting someone to hold their temper 100% of the time is impossible even if they manage it 99% of the time. I've also tweeted angry things I've deleted in minutes later too. And I understand his perspective in not wanting to be limited to the genre or audience of the art he creates. So Apo's (valid and expected) reaction is understandable.
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If it's okay, I'll probably not answer any more asks about this topic for probably a while. I have some other family stuff going on (not-cat family) and I just can't deal with people who don't have to be in my life causing this nonsense while I also have to deal with people (and cats) I can't get rid of attachments to also having stuff going on.
#man suang#kinnporsche#misogyny#pink capitalism#pond krisda#be on cloud#man suang promo#meta#bl meta
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Blog numero cinco!
Do Games Promote Game Characters Equally?
In the article "Race in Cyberspace," it is argued that virtual environments, including video games, can reinforce many racial stereotypes and inequalities seen in the real world. Most popular games are typically promoted with a white male character as the hero, while minorities are often portrayed as villains or depicted in poverty. The options for customizing an avatar are limited for many individuals in numerous games, reflecting a lack of awareness and biases among developers. Games and virtual reality have the power to connect people, but many times, they fall short in providing equal representation. We may not realize the inequality and discrimination emphasized in cyberspace, but our online interactions can negatively impact marginalized communities.
How Do Stereotypes in Video Games Become So Exaggerated?
Jeffrey A. Ow's article, "The Revenge of the Yellowfaced Cyborg Terminator: The Rape of Digital Geishas and the Colonization of Cyber-Coolies in 3D Realms' Shadow Warrior," critiques how Asian characters in games like Shadow Warrior are represented through exaggerated portrayals of Asian culture. Many times, these games are developed by individuals who do not represent the Asian community, lacking the ability to incorporate input from non-Asian creators. Games like Shadow Warrior reflect the Western stereotypes that have arisen from the historical context of colonization and racism perpetuated by Western countries. The media has a history of portraying Asians and minorities through stereotypes, exploiting them in entertainment for the benefit of power and wealth.
Can Innocent Games Contribute to Stereotypes?
Tara Fickle's article "Ludo-Orientalism and the Gamification of Race" explores how video games and gaming technologies contribute to racial stereotypes. Characters from specific cultures or races may be designed in ways that align with long-standing, harmful stereotypes. These biases can reinforce negative perceptions of race and culture, shaping players' views of the world both inside and outside the game. For example, minorities playing Pokémon GO in predominantly white neighborhoods were often profiled and warned against entering areas deemed "dangerous," while white players had more freedom to explore without the same level of scrutiny. Innocent games can still contribute to real-world discrimination, revealing the complex ways in which digital interactions affect societal issues.
Kolko, B. E., Nakamura, L., & Rodman, G. B. (2000). Race in cyberspace. Routledge.
Fickle, T. (2019). The race card: From gaming technologies to model minorities. New York University Press.
Ow, Jeffrey A. “The Revenge of the Yellowfaced Cyborg Terminator: The Rape of Digital Geishas and the Colonization of Cyber-Coolies in 3D Realms’ Shadow Warrior.” Asian America.Net: Ethnicity, Nationalism, and Cyberspace.
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June 12- Kiyomizudera/Gion Tour
Today we visited Kiyomizudera and Gion. We faced the same problem with buses again; fortunately, I was able to ride the bus instead of walking to the temple. Naomi told me that NHK or another news station had covered the issue of foreigners taking up a lot of space on public transportation, which was causing problems for locals. So that may be one of the reasons why we have so much trouble getting on buses, along with so many students taking trips here. Once we reached our stop, I got some tanghulu from a stand nearby another shrine. I enjoyed it, but not as much as I thought I would. I didn’t like the tanghulu grapes, probably because they were so soft. The strawberries were good though and I would probably get another tanghulu with only strawberries. The temple itself was beautiful; it reminded me of Himeji-jo in the way that the temple’s structure was spaced out into multiple buildings. One unfortunate thing that happened when we first got to the temple was when I got called a racial slur. I was pretty shocked about it at first and am still a little bit mad about it. Part of me wishes that I had said something to them but it’s not like it would have helped anything. I’ll get over it soon enough though. Other than that, the best part of the shrine for me was the tunnel that we went through. It was interesting having to navigate the tunnel in complete darkness and only seeing light at the stone and the end of the tunnel. I only wished for success with my goals for this year and peace of mind; I already know that my senior year is going to be stressful :(. I also enjoyed walking through Gion and actually going to the traditional house Starbucks there! I was able to sit inside the store where most of the area had tatami mats. I enjoyed this Starbucks a lot more than any Starbucks back at home, to be honest. I liked their system of having two separate areas for ordering and creating drinks, it helps to lessen crowding within the store. The show that we went to was also entertaining. I was surprised that the first three acts were almost simultaneous, it threw me for a loop for a bit. My favorite parts of the show were the Kyogen comedy and the Kyomai dance. The actors were funny in the play and I thought the dance was extremely beautiful. The overall program is a great way to introduce people to traditional Japanese culture in a short time span, which is great for students since a lot of us have a short attention span anyway. I enjoyed our activities today and hopefully, I‘ll get to go back to Gion before we leave so that I can explore the area more.
The first reading made me appreciate Kiyomizudera more, especially the tunnel and the waterfall. It’s interesting how when people go up to the waterfall hoping for some form of luck or success from one of the three streams, they don’t which one they’ll be blessed with. Even if someone wanted luck in all three areas, they could only pick one or they would be deemed greedy and not receive anything at all. I see why this temple is known as the best one to have one’s prayers granted due to both the three streams and the opportunity to be reborn from Kannon. Patrons have multiple opportunities to have their prayers heard and granted by Kannon. However, is it expected that patrons go through both actions of going through the tunnel and drinking from the stream or is it greedy to take part in both?
The second reading caused me to be more curious about the occupation of a geisha. Before I learned more about geisha and the red light district, I just thought that the district was just for typical sex work and nothing more. However, after reading the article, I see that the district was much more than that. The geisha present then and now are highly educated and were hired for events that allowed them to demonstrate the skills they gained in the arts and discuss various topics with their customers. I also wonder if male geisha will ever become an occupation again. I don’t think it really will because based on how they were described, male geisha wouldn’t really serve much of a purpose now if it’s just to keep a party going. It would be useful to show a part of traditional culture, but I don’t see it serving a functional or significant cultural purpose now.
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Kagemaru and being a Jorogumo
Kagemaru is a jorogumo. Now the lore behind the jorogumo yokai is that when a golden orb weaver (that’s a real spider fun fact) becomes 400 years old, it gains magical powers including the ability to shapeshift. Now usually jorogumo will turn their appearance into a beautiful young women to lure in their prey, which is typically young lovestruck men. However, Kagemaru’s “normal” form is one of an attractive, gorgeous man, which is not typically portrayed in folk culture. However, the creators of Ayakashi RR incorporated the jorogumo’s ability to shapeshift into Kagemaru. They had him cross dress as a women and go by the name Yuzuru, then to incorporate the luring of young men, they made her very popular and well liked within the community.
Going back to the folklore of the jorogumo, after gaining their magical powers, they need more energy to sustain themselves, which is why they start eating humans. Jorogumo’s attitude towards humans is akin to a spider’s thoughts of an insects; humans are just something to snack on. We can see this attitude with Kagemaru. Kagemaru looks down on human, saying that they’re weak. They’re insects compared to the spider he is.
Also, it makes sense for Kagemaru’s other persona, Yuzuru, to work as a geisha. The reason why? Geisha’s work at brothels, and you know who else work as brothels? Prostitutes, or in Japanese a jorō… which is in the name of jorōgumo. It means whore spider, so it makes sense for him to be working at a brothel.
There’s also an interesting detail in his character design. As you can see, Kagemaru wears his obi belt on the side, which is not common. However, this is interesting because usually in brothels people were able to distinguish a jorō from a geisha based on how their obi was tied. If it was tied in the front they were a jorō (cause it would be easier to take off clothes if it was in the front), but if it was tied in the back they were a geisha (cause it was out of the way for dancing, playing music, and entertaining guests). Kagemaru’s in his male form has his on the side lazily, suggesting that he’s not quite a jorō but he’s also not in his full on geisha form or persona. He’s somewhere in between.
…sexy spider boy
@glassandmetalwings
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Is Ogata a virgin?
To be honest...
I’m probably not the right person to ask this as I genuinely don’t have the slightest idea about it and I’m not really interested in this.
You see, those were different times from now.
While Japan had different ideas than the west about purity, marriage and so on, from what I know folk girls at the time wouldn’t really be willing to sleep around with boys easily, unless they planned to marry said boy and move to live with him (Meiji era is a time of changes though, so cut me some slack on this as I might be anticipating a bit a mentality that will develop in the future).
To make it simple, Harumi Chiyo (or Igogusa if you prefer) might have slept with Tsukishima prior to him leaving for war because Tsukishima made clear he wanted to marry her once he were back and she might have believed him so, if she were to remain pregnant no harm would be done as they would get married anyway.
On the other side it’s more unlikely Kakizaki Umeko slept with Sugimoto even though she equally loved him, as they apparently weren’t engaged, even though they were childhood sweethearts... while if she had lived in present times she would have been more willing to spend a night with the boy she liked even if they weren’t talking about getting married.
I genuinely doubt Ogata was/is in a serious relationship with a girl, so it’s strongly unlikely he got to sleep with someone for free.
Of course the typical male method in all the centuries and in almost all the countries (if not in all of them) to lose their virginity was to sleep with a prostitute, and it was especially popular among soldiers, even more when they were at war... which is something I don’t really consider praiseworthy.
Girls were often forced into the profession by misery or by being sold (or even kidnapped as they attempted to do with Asirpa), and taking advantage of their conditions has been something men had done for centuries and that really doesn’t make them that special in my eyes, just because in this way they managed to get rid of their virginity.
Maybe it’s just me.
Now... feel free to correct me if I’m wrong but I think this question was spurred by the Q&A section in the fanbook and more specifically by this bit.
Q18: “The scene in which Ogata tries to corrupt Yuusaku by taking him to a brothel and telling him that brothers are supposed to do bad things together was very sexy and impactful. Does it mean that Ogata frequented brothels, and has the appropriate experience?”
Noda: “He just pretended that he knows what he’s doing.” (Translation courtesy of @piduai)
To be honest the asker never mentions brothels but the "red light district” (遊郭 ‘yūkaku’ lit: “play quarters” but it was generally used in the sense of “pleasure quarters”) however he/she is clearly referring to Ogata’s visit to a specific place (and the image that goes with that ask in the fanbook is the one above just to visually help who didn’t remember about it).
(If someone is wondering “experience” is just ‘Keiken’ (経験) which means, well, “experience” in general)
Now... there’s a huge chance no soldier of Ogata’s rank or lower got a chance to have experience in such a place.
The price from prostitutes varies and the troops didn’t get much money.
The prostitutes working in the slums of Sapporo were probably the cheapest choice as they seemed to work directly on the streets and it was their customer who had to provide a place in which to go, if he wanted to do it somewhere more comfortable... and as you can see in the manga some still had to turn down the chance to spend time with them for a lack of money.
We know Otaru is packed with brothels (私娼窟 ‘shishōkutsu’), disguised as Soba shops.
The ones working for the pimp Sugimoto and Shiraishi interacted with are possibly a bit more expensive than them as they supposedly had a place in which to handle their trade, but as Shiraishi points out they’re ugly and their place is likely modest.
We then move to the brothel in which Ushiyama goes the first time.
It’s likely a bit better as his girl seems prettier and the owner will later brag they’ve the best girls and the best soba.
Sugimoto can afford the soba but the girls would likely cost more. Still maybe he could afford them. We’ll see though how they aren’t there to serve him or something.
Still the girl working there is definitely prettier than the previous, so I’ll say she should be more expensive than the ones with the pimp.
And then we move to the high class places.
We don’t get to see the inside but the girls seems even prettier and by the look of it pretty expensive. Ushiyama likely moved there because Hijikata and Nagakura are now economically supporting him.
Shiraishi (and Ishikawa too) will start visiting expensive brothels as well once Hijikata will start founding them.
The structure of this place is more like the one in which Yuusaku and Ogata went... but the girls are back on not being pretty...
To climb up to this very pretty Oiran.
Oiran (花魁) was a specific category of high ranking courtesan in Japanese history. Divided into a number of ranks within this category, oiran were considered – both in social terms and in the entertainment they provided – to be above common prostitutes, known as yūjo (遊女) (lit. 'woman of pleasure'). Though oiran by definition also engaged in prostitution, they were distinguished by their skills in the traditional arts, with the highest ranking oiran having a degree of choice in which customers they took.
Now... maybe the ladies with Ogata and Yuusaku aren’t the most expensive in the market, but they’re clearly in an upperclass place with 3 beautiful ladies, drinking sake.
I bet this is much more than Ogata’s salary allowed him and the patron for such visit is Tsurumi. Ogata though couldn’t take Yuusaku to a lesser, more economical place, as the point is to tempt an upper class boy like he is, so beautiful women and an elegant place are a must.
Long story short, while Ogata might have had sex with a prostitute... in that situation he’s clearly blind flying as it’s highly unlikely he could allow himself to do so much as drink in such a place, even less to have the girls.
To me it looks like a place for officers, with girls who are even taking care to be discreet, the perfect place to tempt an upper class official like Yuusaku, not a place for superior privates or common soldiers to spend their money regularly.
So, back to the question, did Noda refer solely to prostitutes in places like this, or to prostitutes in general?
No idea.
It can entirely be Ogata didn’t feel like having sex with a prostitute, as not only the affordable ones are ugly, but he might live it as a call back to his mother’s situation.
Although Ogata Tome was a geisha and not a common prostitute, Ogata has likely heard her being accused to be as such many times and the thing might have left a mark.
He’s not utterly repulsed by them, as, once Yuusaku is gone, he let one of them to keep hanging with him and touch him...
...even though he clearly was expecting Tsurumi and couldn’t do much else (especially since the whole thing was a fiasco and it’s unlikely Tsurumi would apprecciate Ogata getting fun from it).
So again, no idea.
It’s not surprising Ogata had no experience with that type of brothels and girls.
He might have had experience with much cheaper prostitutes but if he had or not is not really that interesting to me and not having it might even make sense considering his upbringing as the illegittimate son of a woman accused to sell her body.
He might not want to cause the birth of other children who’re in his place, nor he might feel comfortable with the idea of paying someone for sex.
A common joke among me and some of my friends is that Ogata’s only love is his rifle and, at most, he might fall for the girls of “Girls' frontline“ as they’re weapons’ personifications but, of course, this is just a joke.
So sorry, but I really don’t have an idea if he had sex previously or not. He seems to at least know how men are when they have sex...
...but again it could be a reference to how his father acted so... no idea.
Sorry if I wasn’t really helpful and thank you for your ask!
#Ogata Hyakunosuke#Ask#Ogata Tome#Harumi Chiyo#Tsukishima Hajime#Sugimoto Saichi#Kenmochi Umeko#Hanazawa Yuusaku
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Snake Eyes (2021)
Snake Eyes (2021) was bad. Sorry to be negative for the first post on this blog, but it was bad. There are some redeeming qualities that I will give credit to, but first, a brutal round of just criticism.
The biggest glaring issue was the representation of Asian culture. It is literally a caricature of Japanese culture and people, so much that it almost became self-aware of how ridiculous it was. People are saying "H O N O R ! T R A D I T I O N ! D E A T H ! The C L A N!" all the time, in grunting Japanese accents. Everyone and their mother wields a katana, that they also have no idea how to properly use. We can go down the whole laundry list of modern Japanese tropes: ninjas, katanas, Yakuza, flower blossoms, tradition, ancient clan, brotherhood, honor, revenge, bloodline, inner peace, clouded minds, motorcycles, castles, neon, Tokyo. Put the whole list through the washer, adding some bleach, and then through the dryer, and the resulting shrunken soppy mess is this movie. There was even technicolor taiko drums with geishas(?) in the end, a bizarre choice. I guess what can I expect from nonAsian writers and directors.
The scene I laughed most grimly at was at the climax, the main bad guy had his last contingent of yelling Yakuza boys with him, facing down the 6 deadly martial artists (Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Akiko, Hard Master, Blind Master, and Grandma) and two white women (Scarlett and Baroness). The white women are the only ones with firearms by the way. What happens next is so...American.
The Yakuza boys charge. They are promptly gunned down by the two white women, without so much as blinking. The main bad guy doesn't seem to care either (he is protected by the magic Macguffin). This, more than anything, showed me the level of respect that this movie had for the average Asian male, and Asian culture in general. Why do the main characters even bother with ninja shit if katana users could be so casually shot like that? This Yakuza was supposedly trafficking firearms into Japan, shouldn't they at least be packing something? Okay now I remember, they were using guns in the road fight scene, but they randomly sprayed shots and never hit anything. Regardless, it is just more reinforcement that "Asian people are exotic, they use swords and martial arts." Fuck that, I want Asian guys double wielding C96 machinepistols.
Of course, the wider context of this movie is even dumber. GI Joes, of which I dabbled in in my youth, is yet another tendril of the American miltary-industrial propaganda machine. A diverse, yet very stereotypically American task force of badasses with thematic skills are faced with international terrorist cults. Snake Eyes was a fan favorite, because he was a cool silent ninja dude who you can't even see the face of. Awesome! In his original origin story, he was an orphan who got picked up by Storm Shadow's ninja clan; when they grew up, Storm Shadow got jealous and murdered their master, and they've been enemies since. The funniest thing is that most material has Snake Eyes be White. It's so typical...the coolest, most Asian-themed character can't be Asian, he has to be secretly white, an "outsider" welcomed into the clan. It makes so much sense, as little white boys could self-insert so much better knowing mute ninja was like them, instead of like the villainous Storm Shadow, who's Asianness is always obvious from his lack of visor.
Oh which reminds me: Storm Shadow uses only traditional ninja weapons, while Snake Eyes uses a submachine gun along with his katana. Now I may be reading too much into this, but I feel that this suggests that the good guys always have a touch of Western modernity, while the bad guys are always more exotically Asian. Oh yeah! In the movie, the bad guy also wore an ancient shogun outfit with the pointy shoulders, whereas the young good guys wore modern suits. The villain is always more Asian than the hero.
But hey, Asian male protagonists! Maybe Hollywood did this on purpose to confirmation bias that Asian male lead movies don't do well.
I fear there will be a similar phenomenon in Shang-Chi.
#snake eyes#storm shadow#media review#rant#asian representation#henry golding#andrew koji#gi joe#kevin watches#joy i dont know what else to tag#semiasian media
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Guess what I found in the middle of the night.
While resting from writing, I searched up the term ‘Danna’ which led me to the Geisha sector of Wikipedia. Apparently, the original Geishas were males called Taikomochis/houkans. Like their female counterparts, they specialize in arts and entertainment whom they perform specifically for their patrons called ‘Danna’s’. Seeing how Geishas are a prominent figure in Japanese arts, is it that far of a reach to think our beloved artists’ dynamic is partially inspired by this piece of history during conceptualization? I mean, look at the idea of both the Taikomochi/houkan and Geisha: "Geisha" means "arts person", while hōkan was the formal name for "jester".
By the 16th century, they became known as otogishu or hanashishu (story tellers), where they focused on story telling, humour, conversation. They were sounding boards for military strategies and they battled at the side of their lord.” parallel it to akatsuki’s most comedic and personable character (not to mention prettiest), Deidara.
Then look at Danna:
“It was traditional in the past for established geisha to take a danna, or patron. A danna was typically a wealthy man, sometimes married (to fucking kazekage puppet LOL), who had the means to support the very large expenses related to a geisha's traditional training and other costs.”
and consider:
Deidara is a hired arts person, (a fuckin geisha my guy, he’s too fuckin pretty not to be) partnered with one of Akatsuki’s senior members, Sasori, who we can consider as his patron. What you could have here is Deidara being Sasori’s personal little shit Geisha/Taikomochi. To sum up what I’m trying to say, its that our favorite artist duo could have been influenced by this dynamic.
Coincidence? I think not! But at the end of the day, with this being an analysis on characters Kishi probably didn’t give too many fucks about, its probably a reach. And you know what? That’s alright, its an interesting concept regardless. It would be nice to read fanfic about it though. *nudge nudge* Bonus: “The taikomochi pretends to be talking to a pretend danna (patron) who obviously wants to have sex. The taikomochi explains that he isn't homosexual (something Deidara is always accused of honestly xP), and that he's called a geisha (demand to be recognized as an artist?LOL), but the pretend danna is impatient. So the taikomochi gives in to please the client, and acts out (half hidden by a screen) the sex with moans and rolling of eyes, until the climax. The taikomochi then gets a tissue to 'clean up'. The audience roared with laughter because they all knew that this was a joke, making fun of how geisha and taikomochi please their customers! Of course they don't go that far”
#sasori#deidara#danna#akasuna no sasori#sasodei#taikomochi#geisha#geisha/danna au#wheres it at#someone write that down#revive dead fandoms 2k20
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Relationships with male guests
The appeal of a high-ranking geisha to her typical male guest has historically been very different from that of his wife. The ideal geisha showed her skill, while the ideal wife was modest. The ideal geisha seemed carefree, the ideal wife somber and responsible. Historically, geisha did sometimes marry their clients, but marriage necessitated retirement, as there were never married geisha.
Geisha may gracefully flirt with their guests, but they will always remain in control of the hospitality. Over their years of apprenticeship they learn to adapt to different situations and personalities, mastering the art of the hostess.[36]
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I spent a lot of time studying this photo when it first came out. This was summer of 2013, the second stop (after home town San Francisco and his family in the audience, which made that one a very “personal” performance in a way) of his Listen Up tour, and he was backstage preparing to perform in front of many of his industry friends, co-workers, and other Hollywood professionals. Because of this, I consider this to be the actual “coming out” of his music contract p.r. obligations kicking in, with all the hard push for “straight” that went with it.
There were other released photos that went with this set. One was the typical pose we have seen before of the happy couple, except D wore a male geisha t-shirt art image for that photo, that she partly covered with her hand, for a version of the obligatory posed straight man with sexy clingy draped all over him rocker chick girlfriend photo. This staged photo would become so common over the years as he pursued a bigger career. The weird hand position, though, like she was pushing his chest, in this particular photo made me notice the image more and look up the shirt, as well as the history of male geishas in Japan. I have seen him wear it since, but not often, so I assume he still has it but wears it very selectively where a public facing image is concerned.
There was another photo released from the same location of a large group of celebrity friends who showed up backstage, minus his SO. The ones I recall were Julianne Hough, (who I just found out is a second cousin of Ryker Lynch, who knew?) Kathy Griffin, and Topher Grace. Yeah, that last one threw me, too, but I have some thoughts, based on his past co-stars on That 70’s Show. There were several others, Less than 10, more than 5, I just don’t remember who but I probably recognized others at the time. I DO recall that photo had a male in a checked shirt and tight jeans that had his facial image cut off by the edge of the photo so you could not recognize his face. Could have been anybody who had that build and normally dressed like that, I suppose. And the band also dressed somewhat similar to that when on stage. It’s like, D has a fresh-faced farmboy fetish or something, I have never seen a pop or rock band dressed alike quite like that style, at least I thought it was odd.
There was another photo of this backstage area, with D surrounded by elaborately hand-painted images of a dragon and a phoenix, very Harry Potter, staged in silhouette in one hall, and several with the band in the heavily graffitied area. You can see one of the band members in one of these photos in his little tucked in checked shirt and tie.
But back to this photo of D. You can see the jade ring here, but what you can’t see, is another ring that he had on his finger, that looked similar to an engagement ring. He was somewhat dangling it between his fingers that are cut off in this image. And there was this weird little box that looked a little like a bow topped package drawn on the wall among all that graffiti from past performers, that looked like it enclosed a name and another word. The second word means nothing I recognized in English, but D speaks many languages and it is easy enough to find a possible translation. You can see it in this photo if you look for it, it is slightly cut off here, but in the original photo it seemed really obvious and central to the eye in the framing of the original photo. I assume all the performers were encouraged to leave their mark of some kind on the walls.
I love this photo. He seems on the edge of something, about to leap. The timing of it is key, for reasons I prefer to keep to myself. Of course I can be wrong, only D knows the truth of his story, but as they say, every picture is worth a thousand words, even staged ones. I think it is sad that so many new fans have no real context for what they see when they get these random old images. Fandom used to have those references, to dig into or ignore, as they chose. Fans now only think they know the story behind D’s old images, but they only know a highly edited version of a story that was already largely hidden, and remains so.
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In your Naruto fics, which characters would be most likely to get Irezumi? Especially in the Uchiha
So I fell down a research hole concerning irezumi (traditional Japanese tattooing where in the tattoo is made by poking someone with an ink coated metal tip repeatedly. It is very time consuming and very painful) and turned up some interesting stuff!
Originally, irezumi was used on firefighters as a method of protection and warding off evil spirits. At the same time, court nobles and aristocrats would have the names of favored lovers tattooed on them, usually on their inner arm somewhere. Chinese records of 3rd and 4th century Japan indicate that these same nobles would also tattoo their faces in some method of social ranking. Over time, tattoos were also used as a way of marking criminals, particularly on the lower arms and, if the offense was particularly grievous, on the face even (the character for “dog” was a favorite for criminals). As the working class came to have access to tattooing, the art eventually evolved into the massive, continuous full body style of Japanese tattoos most of us are familiar with today. Subject matter included favorite oiran and geisha, nature motifs (cherry blossoms, koi, etc), famous scenes from literature/legends/folkore, and mythical creatures such as tengu. For a time, tattoos were even considered romantic and sexy in Japan (particularly by oiran and geisha). However, criminals would use these large tattoos as a way of covering tattoos from their crimes, and thus, tattoos eventually became linked to social delinquents and criminal behavior.
So what does this have to do with Naruto? Well, I think who would have tattoos depends entirely on what *reason* they’re getting it for. We know that they exist, and they even appear to have different meanings. For instance, Kakuzu has criminal tattoos. Most of the Inuzuka and Akimichi have tattoos on their face, probably indicating either their clan affiliation or some kind of rite of passage. Tobirama is an example of a clan shinobi having tattoos while most of the rest of his clan doesn’t (at least that we see). In fact, there are even Warring Clans Era Uchiha with face tattoos. Observe:
(there are two dudes behind the main dude in the center with tats. The one in the back on the left has what looks like an eye on his forehead, and the one on the right has some wavy lines on his cheeks. It’s possible that the dude on the bottom right with half his face missing in this panel also has tattoos on his cheeks, but the drawing isn’t clear enough.)
So now that we have this information on irezumi in real life, and the appearance of tattoos in canon, I can start to develop some headcanons, lol. For the curious, this is basically my method for creating headcanons all the time.
For clans like the Senju, Uchiha, Nara, and so on, who don’t seem to be marked as a matter of course (in comparison to the Akimichi and Inuzuka, who do seem to mostly have facial markings that are relatively similar), I think face tattoos signify either rites of passage, special rankings, or special masteries of some kind, or even just a kind of intimidation factor. These would be relatively unique and not everyone would have them. For the big body tattoos, such as sleeves or back tats, it’s going to depend on the clan, I think. It’s a big time drain for something that is ultimately only decorative, and shinobi could be putting that time into training or missions. So, if a shinobi found a way to weaponize it, I think they’d be far more common. That said, seal masters and the Uzumaki are probably covered in tattoos.
Among the Uchiha, I think common subject matter would be either famous battles that the shinobi in question had engaged in, or mythic figures and creatures, such as tengu, Amaterasu, Susanoo, and so on. Since they would be largely for artistic purposes, and because of the resources needed for them (someone who is trained, time, money, ink, etc), I think only people with high status in the clan would have them. Unfortunately, naming specific Uchiha becomes more difficult because...well, there’s not a lot, and I’m still working on developing my OCs, but I’ll give it a shot.
In The Company of Trees:
Senju Enchuuma is a dude I could see getting an awesome back tattoo. Enchuuma is this old guy who I picture as seemingly benign but with a big, strong presence who can kick your ass as easily as lighting his pipe. He’s almost like...a more ruthless, merciless Gai, except without the whole YOUTH thing. And old. He’s an old geezer too. He would get something very traditional, like, cherry blossoms and koi fish and stuff. Maybe a depiction of one of the bodhisattvas.
The Senju youth in CoT are less interested in tats, but there is a guy who has yet to make an appearance who could potentially have one, Senju Yanema. Yanema is less polite and more irreverent than his cousins Retsuma and Tatema (and I do promise that Retsuma can be polite, for those who remember his less than kind introduction to Sakura). Yanema is the guy who would poke a sleeping bear because he thinks its funny, and he also has the skills to back it up. Yanema’s tattoo would look very traditional, with a stunning geisha on his back...except the geisha is male, both because Yanema would think that sort of thing is funny, and not so subtly hinting at his sexuality.
My beta and I loved the irony of police having tattoos, something typically associated with criminals, so the Uchiha Police Force all have tattoos. The higher the rank, the bigger and more elaborate they are. It’s a way of paying homage to their ancestors while also marking them as being part of a unique group both within the village and within the clan itself.
In Throwing a Stone in a River:
Again, the Uchiha Police Force had tattoos. This is largely a moot point, though, because they’re all dead.
In the context of the fic, I can’t imagine anyone else having an inclination to tattoos, particularly among those named so far.
In If The Bird Doesn’t Sing:
Kagami’s dad, Uchiha Koyane, probably has a big tattoo. Koyane is, like Hikaku, a fairly chill guy, and Madara counts him as a good friend. Unlike Hikaku, Koyane has a bit of sadistic streak. Oops. His tattoo would be like, some gruesome scene depicting blood thirsty spirits or something. To the people that know him well, it makes perfect sense, even if it doesn’t match his outward demeanor.
Uchiha Wakana is a romantic, so I can easily imagine her getting a sprawling tattoo of Kitashi, murderizing her enemies. It’s a good way of paying homage to her dead lover.
Uchiha Mameha is also likely to get one, but only in one specific circumstance. When she was young, she was maimed by Senju Touka. It is Mameha’s dream to rip Touka limb from limb. Only after that time will Mameha ever get a tattoo, immortalizing the moment when she destroys the person who lamed her.
Uchiha Setsuna would also be likely to get a tattoo. I’m not sure what of, but I can picture him getting one. It is probably a wrathful deity or creature of some kind. Tengu, demon, something.
Whew, this was a long one! I hope I addressed everything, and if you have any more questions, feel free to send another ask or two :)
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Things You Didn't Know About Japanese Culture
Omiyage Are More Than Souvenirs
The term ‘omiyage’ is often translated as ‘souvenir’ in English, but omiyage are much more than that. Unlike souvenirs, which people often buy for themselves, omiyage are something people bring back for their friends, family and co-workers after a trip. Omiyage are typically speciality foods from different regions, which are packaged in beautiful brightly colored boxes with the food items individually wrapped inside for easy sharing. While bringing back souvenirs in the West is a nice gesture, in Japan, bringing omiyage after a trip is an expectation.
Christmas Is A Romantic Holiday
Christians only make up about 2% of Japan’s population, so Christmas is more of a novelty in Japan than a religious holiday. Elaborate light displays and Christmas trees are common, but most people celebrate on Christmas Eve rather than Christmas Day. Furthermore, Christmas Eve is considered to be more of a date night, similar to Valentine’s Day, with couples going out for fancy dinners and exchanging romantic gifts.
There Are Cues For Your Shoes
You might know that it’s polite to take your shoes off when entering someone’s home in Japan. But it can be difficult to tell if you’re supposed to take them off in many other buildings, such as temples, shrines, and restaurants. Fortunately, there are a few cues to look for, such as if slippers are set around the entrance, it’s a clear indication that guests should take their outdoor shoes off and put the slippers on instead. Additionally, if the floor is raised at the entrance, it means guests should take their shoes off in the doorway before stepping inside and onto the raised surface.
Japanese Women Used To Blacken Their Teeth
For centuries, tooth blackening, known as ohaguro, was a common practice for Japanese women, particularly married woman and geishas. In addition to being considered attractive, this practice was also believed to help protect the teeth against decay and other dental issues. Women would apply various substances to their teeth, such as mixtures of tooth wax and ink, to maintain their black appearance. The practice was banned beginning in the late 19th century, in an effort to modernize Japan and make its culture more appealing to Westerners.
It’s Rude To Eat Or Drink While Walking
It’s pretty common to see someone eating a bag of chips or sipping coffee while walking down the street in Western countries, but this is not the case in Japan. While it isn’t considered quite as rude as it used to be, eating or drinking while walking is still looked upon as low-class behavior. When most Japanese people buy food or drink from a vending machine on the street, for example, they’ll consume the whole thing while standing beside the machine to avoid walking with it.
Baseball Is Extremely Popular
Sumo may be Japan’s national sport and the one people most often associate with the country, but baseball is actually its most watched and played sport. It was introduced to the country during the Meiji Period and gained huge popularity thanks to the heavy American presence in Japan after World War II. Japan has two professional baseball leagues, as well as countless high school and university leagues across the country. Japanese baseball games are particularly notable for their fervent cheering sections, with people singing fight songs and participating in organized cheers continuously throughout most games.
Chopstick Positions Have Meaning
When you’re dining in Japan, it’s important to never stick your chopsticks into your food to rest them when you’re not eating. This actually resembles a ceremony performed at funerals in Japan, and it’s considered to be a bad omen. For the same reason, it’s also taboo to share food with others by passing it chopsticks to chopsticks. If you want to share, use your chopsticks to place the food on the other person’s plate.
Eating Horse Meat Is Common
Horse meat has been consumed in Japan since the late 16th century. Its use in cooking increased significantly in the 1960s, as the role of horses in agriculture and transport diminished. Raw horse meat, known as basahi, is commonly served in restaurants. It is typically eaten with grated ginger and sweet shoyu. It’s nicknamed sakura niku (cherry blossom meat) for its pale pink color.
The First Geisha Were Men
Geisha actually means ‘person of the arts’ and the first geisha were men, who advised feudal lords in addition to entertaining the court with various artistic performances and stories. Female geishas began entertaining in the late 18th century and were originally known as onna geisha (woman artist). Female geishas became extremely popular, outnumbering males less than 25 years after their first appearance.
Everyone Pours For Each Other
When groups are drinking together and sharing a bottle, such as sake, at the table, it’s polite for people to refill each other’s glasses rather than pouring their own drinks. Wait for someone else to top up your glass when it’s empty, and keep an eye on everyone else’s glasses, because they’ll be waiting for you to refill them. If you don’t want to drink any more, then simply leave your glass full.
There’s A Proper Way To Appreciate Bonsai
You may know that bonsai are potted miniature trees that are artistically styled. The trees are styled to be beautiful and aesthetically pleasing while also mimicking how the tree might look in a larger form out in nature. It is, therefore, unsurprising that after looking at the bonsai’s overall appearance, viewers are meant to lower their line of sight to the same level as the tree. To properly appreciate bonsai, viewers should try to imagine themselves being small as they look at the tree, so they can imagine how it might look in its natural environment.
Slurping Is A Compliment
For a country with so many strict etiquette rules, it comes as a shock to many Westerners that slurping noodles or soups while eating is perfectly acceptable in Japan. In fact, slurping isn’t just acceptable — it’s actually encouraged. It’s considered to be a sign that the food is delicious, and it’s a compliment to the cook. It makes it easier to eat the noodles quickly while they’re still hot, which is said to be the best way to appreciate their flavor. Slurping can also minimize messiness, helping to prevent broth from spilling on your clothes as you eat.
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Japan - Culture
It’s been more than 150 years since Japan opened its ports to the Western world after centuries of isolation, yet some things about it still mystify us. Here are 12 things you probably didn’t know about Japanese culture.
Omiyage Are More Than Souvenirs
The term ‘omiyage’ is often translated as ‘souvenir’ in English, but omiyage are much more than that. Unlike souvenirs, which people often buy for themselves, omiyage are something people bring back for their friends, family and co-workers after a trip. Omiyage are typically speciality foods from different regions, which are packaged in beautiful brightly colored boxes with the food items individually wrapped inside for easy sharing. While bringing back souvenirs in the West is a nice gesture, in Japan, bringing omiyage after a trip is an expectation.
Christmas Is A Romantic Holiday
Christians only make up about 2% of Japan’s population, so Christmas is more of a novelty in Japan than a religious holiday. Elaborate light displays and Christmas trees are common, but most people celebrate on Christmas Eve rather than Christmas Day. Furthermore, Christmas Eve is considered to be more of a date night, similar to Valentine’s Day, with couples going out for fancy dinners and exchanging romantic gifts.
It’s Rude To Eat Or Drink While Walking
It’s pretty common to see someone eating a bag of chips or sipping coffee while walking down the street in Western countries, but this is not the case in Japan. While it isn’t considered quite as rude as it used to be, eating or drinking while walking is still looked upon as low-class behaviour. When most Japanese people buy food or drink from a vending machine on the street, for example, they’ll consume the whole thing while standing beside the machine to avoid walking with it.
Baseball Is Extremely Popular
Sumo may be Japan’s national sport and the one people most often associate with the country, but baseball is actually its most watched and played sport. It was introduced to the country during the Meiji Period and gained huge popularity thanks to the heavy American presence in Japan after World War II. Japan has two professional baseball leagues, as well as countless high school and university leagues across the country. Japanese baseball games are particularly notable for their fervent cheering sections, with people singing fight songs and participating.
Chopstick Positions Have Meaning
When you’re dining in Japan, it’s important to never stick your chopsticks into your food to rest them when you’re not eating. This actually resembles a ceremony performed at funerals in Japan, and it’s considered to be a bad omen. For the same reason, it’s also taboo to share food with others by passing it chopsticks to chopsticks. If you want to share, use your chopsticks to place the food on the other person’s plate.
Eating Horse Meat Is Common
Horse meat has been consumed in Japan since the late 16th century. Its use in cooking increased significantly in the 1960s, as the role of horses in agriculture and transport diminished. Raw horse meat, known as basahi, is commonly served in restaurants. It is typically eaten with grated ginger and sweet shoyu. It’s nicknamed sakura niku (cherry blossom meat) for its pale pink colour.
The First Geisha Were Men
Geisha actually means ‘person of the arts’ and the first geisha were men, who advised feudal lords in addition to entertaining the court with various artistic performances and stories. Female geishas began entertaining in the late 18th century and were originally known as onna geisha (woman artist). Female geishas became extremely popular, outnumbering males less than 25 years after their first appearance.
Everyone Pours For Each Other
When groups are drinking together and sharing a bottle, such as sake, at the table, it’s polite for people to refill each other’s glasses rather than pouring their own drinks. Wait for someone else to top up your glass when it’s empty, and keep an eye on everyone else’s glasses, because they’ll be waiting for you to refill them. If you don’t want to drink any more, then simply leave your glass full.
There’s A Proper Way To Appreciate Bonsai
You may know that bonsai are potted miniature trees that are artistically styled. The trees are styled to be beautiful and aesthetically pleasing while also mimicking how the tree might look in a larger form out in nature. It is, therefore, unsurprising that after looking at the bonsai’s overall appearance, viewers are meant to lower their line of sight to the same level as the tree. To properly appreciate bonsai, viewers should try to imagine themselves being small as they look at the tree, so they can imagine how it might look in its natural environment.
Slurping Is A Compliment
For a country with so many strict etiquette rules, it comes as a shock to many Westerners that slurping noodles or soups while eating is perfectly acceptable in Japan. In fact, slurping isn’t just acceptable — it’s actually encouraged. It’s considered to be a sign that the food is delicious, and it’s a compliment to the cook. It makes it easier to eat the noodles quickly while they’re still hot, which is said to be the best way to appreciate their flavor. Slurping can also minimize messiness, helping to prevent broth from spilling on your clothes as you eat.
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Are DnP guilty of cultural appropriation?
K ya’ll, I just logged onto tumblr to relax after doing a bunch of work, and instead I was attacked by an ABSOLUTE SHITSTORM of posts about DnP appropriating Japanese culture with their writing of “dan and phil” in Japanese on their backpack merch, and the separate incident of them making a possibly racist comment about asian-looking eyes in Dream Daddy.
First of all, I found it weird that the backpack thing was brought up now, when the merch has been out for more than a week now. So it might be related to the dream daddy incident that this is getting around now. I think it’s fine, it’s just an observation I made.
Second of all, I’m only going to talk about the cultural appropriation with the backpacks and not the dream daddy stuff because, as a black person, i don’t really have a say in whether the comment about the eyes was offensive or not. I feel like we should leave that up to the asian viewers in the phandom.
Okay, I’ve been seeing posts debating whether writing “Dan and Phil” in Japanese on the backpacks is cultural appropriation or not, so I decided to do some research on what cultural appropriation is, and whether what Dan and Phil committed it. (It was light research, mind you, so don’t haze me for this I don’t have unlimited time on my hands).
So, my sources include Wikipedia, the Oxford dictionary, and other related articles. They may not be completely reliable, but hey, I took what the internet provided.
The definition of cultural appropriation from the Oxford dictionary is “The unacknowledged or inappropriate adoption of the customs, practices, ideas, etc. of one people or a society by members of another and typically more dominant people or society.”
This is consistent with Wikipedia’s definition, but Wikipedia elaborates that cultural appropriation (or “misappropriation”, as they call it) is harmful not only because the origins from other cultures may not be accurately represented or acknowledged, but also the dominant culture, when taking elements of a minority society, demean those elements to being just “exotic” items or practices, which means that they can “temporarily play an ‘exotic’ other without experiencing any of the daily discrimination faced by that culture.” One example of this was when white performer Katy Perry dressed up as a Geisha, part of Japanese culture, for a performance. Even though she thought it was representing Asian culture, many Asians said she completely misrepresented their culture, despite her best intentions.
At times, it’s hard to determine the difference between enjoying elements of another culture and cultural appropriation, but I think appreciation crosses over into appropriation territory when it fetishizes (objectifies and stereotypes) or commercializes part of a culture, hoarding access to that kind of thing for profit. For example, in fashion, supposedly new and innovative styles will get a lot of buzz and success, without people knowing that the fashion drew inspiration from another culture.
Now, with all this in mind, lets apply this to Dan and Phil’s situation. Dan and Phil, being white, male, and British, I’d say are part of a dominant culture. So that part fits. And they’ve taken the Japanese language and put it on a backpack, which they are selling and gaining profit from, even though it may not be their main intention.
The real question is whether using a different language can be counted as cultural appropriation or not. And I think the answer may have to be yes.
In one of the previous paragraphs, I took a quote from wikipedia about people from the dominant culture being able to “temporarily play ‘exotic’ without experiencing the discrimination and other full elements of that culture.”
So, Dan and Phil being like “hey, we love Japan, and we’ve been there a few times, so let’s put Japanese on these backpacks to show our appreciation of the culture, and to have subtle product placement without sprouting Dan and Phil on the merch”, I’d say is cultural appropriation, since neither of them have any inherent ties to Japan, they both are from a dominant culture, and they haven’t fully embraced all elements of the Japanese culture.
And if you’re not convinced, hang with me for a sec. Imagine you’re part of another culture, who speaks a certain language. Because one of my friends is Egyptian and speaks Egyptian Arabic, i’m gonna use that example. So let’s say you’re Egyptian, you’ve been raised on that culture your whole life. You may or may not know Arabic, but it’s part of your culture. What if two white dudes who have no connection to Egypt and the Egyptian culture except a few visits were like, “lets put Arabic on this backpack and we’re gonna sell it because we love Egypt!” Kinda seems weird... right?
Of course, I’d like to point out that this is one of the less malicious examples of cultural appropriation, but cultural appropriation nonetheless. Even though language is something that should be shared and learned, there is a problem in taking another culture’s language and gaining profit from it, because it is an integral part of that culture that can’t be separated. This is probably why language classes have you learn the culture along with the language, so that cultural appropriation is avoided.
I love Dan and Phil, and at first I was angry when people were accusing them of this, but now that I’ve done my own research, I can see why this issue needed to be addressed.
I hope that everyone, not only Dan and Phil, can learn from this mistake, and combat it in the future. Just remember, that probably a lot of us are guilty of perpetuating or participating in cultural appropriation (myself included), and we should be understanding of our own faults as well as Dan and Phil’s. I encourage you all to do your own research, since my disorganized brain probably hasn’t done the subject its complete justice, but I hope this has helped any of you who are confused. If anyone has anything to add or correct me on, feel free to comment nicely, as I’d love to hear what others have to say.
Thanks if you read this till the end, shoutout to all the minorities and/or poc in the phandom, and to those who aren’t poc who try to be as open and understanding as possible. I hope we still all love dan and phil, but I’m glad we treat them like people and hold them accountable. That’s the end of my rant! Bye!
Sincerely, Miranda.
#dan and phil#phandom#cultural appropriation#research#i hope people read this i worked really hard on this post#phan
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Have you ever had the chance to watch the movie: ‘Memoirs of a Geisha‘? Or at least read the book? Well… I’ve done both at a young age and I instantly fell in love with Japan’s geisha as I witnessed their unique beauty, grace, and discipline. In fact, ever since then, I have been deeply enamoured by their mystifying world — which, thankfully, have still survived up to this day!
I say ‘survived’ because I was also interested in the samurai (Japan’s olden warriors who typically serve a feudal lord or daimyo). I badly wanted to witness their noble way of life; however, it made me terribly sad when I learned that they no longer exist, and this is because their social class has died down long ago around the late 1800s after the emperor favored a more modern western-style army. Sure, there may be descendants and even people who still try to practice samurai behavior and/or swordsmanship today, BUT it’s not the same given how the whole samurai lifestyle and system is absolutely non-existent anymore.
The geisha tradition is not as old as the samurai but it IS old and I’ve surely developed some sort of mild fear that they might eventually disappear too — which I hope to goodness, they won’t — and this worry of mine makes a bit of sense because there aren’t many geisha anymore. To put it into numbers, back in the 1920s they numbered around 80,000. Their current number? It is now estimated to be only 1,000 to 2,000!! Because of this and more, it couldn’t be helped that I’ve made ‘meeting or seeing a legit geisha‘ as an item on the very top of my bucket list.
Well… guess what? I already made this dream come true when I went to Japan this year!
What have I done, precisely? I talked to a geisha in Tokyo over a dinner banquet, I played games with 2 young senior maiko in Niigata, I caught sight of a legitimate maiko (who was on her way to work) in one of Kyoto‘s narrow alleys, and I watched two young Japanese maiko perform in Gion Corner — breathtaking experiences that I will surely remember and treasure forever.
Of course, now that I have met and seen them, my wish for their practices to continue for eternity has been strengthened even more!
But before I go on, actually, let’s talk about the movie again because I find it imperative to note that since ‘Memoirs of a Geisha‘ was made in Hollywood, it had several aspects that were false (if not overly romanticized) thereby contributing to the already growing misconceptions of this culture. Thanks to my discussions with a geisha, Kimicho of Tokyo, as well as to my long research sprees, I have come to learn MORE of the truth.
Today, I will be imparting that knowledge with you so that you too can be cleared of any misconceptions that you may have about them.
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Understanding the Geisha of Japan
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» What is a ‘geisha’? How about a ‘maiko’?
A geisha, which translates to English as “performing artist” or “artisan”, is a high-class professional and traditional female entertainer in Japan trained in various forms of art.
IMPORTANT NOTE: In west of Japan such as of that in Kyoto, they use another name for geisha: geiko. Whereas in Kanto area (around Tokyo), they call them geigi. For Tokyo and other places, they commonly use the word ‘geisha’. For the sake of consistency in this article, I will use the word geisha. Besides, it is a more widely recognized term that can be used to encompass both that of western Japan’s geikos and Tokyo’s geisha.
Meanwhile, a maiko, which translates to English as “dancing child”, is an apprentice geisha.
Historically, a maiko starts her training at a very young age: around 3 or 5 years old. But now, their training starts at a much later date: in Kyoto they start at 15 or 16 and in Tokyo they start at 18.
Nevertheless, any girl who wants to enter the community does not have to begin as a maiko because it’s said that they can already proceed being a geisha. (Still and the same, they are required to do at least a year’s worth of training before debuting as a geisha.) For women who are aged 21 to 23 and above, they are deemed to be too old to become maiko so they already become a geisha when they join the community — again, still with training beforehand.
IMPORTANT NOTE: In Tokyo, maiko are rather called as hangyoku (“half jewel”) and they can remain to be so until they are 23. For the sake of consistency in this article, I will use the word maiko.
• What a geisha does •
A geisha is usually hired to attend to guests (who are predominantly and traditionally male) during banquets, meals, parties, and other occasions as she demonstrates her skills through various ways such as dancing to a tune played with the shamisen (a stringed instrument), initiating games, doing the art of conversation, and more.
Japanexperterna / Color edit applied / CC For these affairs, they meet up with their guests at an ochaya* (tea house) or at a ryōtei (traditional Japanese restaurant) and charge their customers by the hour with flat fees.
*Ochaya are highly exclusive places that customarily only grant entry to regular or trusted customers. This is mainly because of how they operate: they don’t bill their guests at the end of the evening, but rather once a month for all the expenses accrued — hence, there is a special level of trust involved. For instance, not just about anyone can go up to an ochaya without being introduced to it first by an already existing customer (and that existing customer would essentially risk their reputation by trusting the behavior of the person that they are introducing to the ochaya). Going by this train of thought, hiring a geisha to have a dinner banquet with is not easy especially if you’re not Japanese and not well-connected, as it is exclusive AND expensive.
Fortunately, most ochaya have lessened their restrictions lately and tourists can now have a geisha dinner if they go through partnered travel agencies and hotels. However, you will still need to prepare a considerable budget for this because a full geisha dinner can be worth around 50,000 yen and up ($470~ or Php 22,500~) per geisha or maiko. This does NOT include dinner yet which starts at 10,000 yen ($95~ or Php 4,500~), as well as an interpreter if you don’t know how to speak Japanese (since geisha and maiko don’t train in English conversation).
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Want to meet with a geisha?
Come and check out these geisha encounters and/or dinner activities that you can do either in Nagoya or Tokyo that already include English translators!
TRIVIA: Some people will say that it can be a ‘waste’ of your money to have a geisha dinner if you don’t speak Japanese — the magic of it all may cease to exist! They say that this is because you’ll be missing out on one of their best talents: conversation or witty banter.
No matter the case, this is all up to you of course! The way I see it, it might indeed be a waste of money, BUT I don’t think it’s a bad idea to do it anyway and get an interpreter (better yet, drag along your Japanese friend). And if you’re up for it, there are also already a few trained and recognized foreigner geisha in Japan who can speak English. I went through this experience myself and I enjoyed it so much! (To learn more about these modern foreigner geisha, go • History of geisha •
Geisha started to appear in the pleasure quarters of Japan before the turn of the 18th century. The first geisha were actually men, whereas the first female ones who appeared years later were teenage odoriko who were expensively-trained “dancing girls” or dancers-for-hire. (As time passed on, being a geisha was mainly regarded as a female occupation.)
Slowly, geisha became more widespread and a lot of them started to work primarily as entertainers — anyone who was selling sex (which was against their intended kind of work) were imprisoned after all in order to protect the oiran who were licensed high-class courtesans or prostitutes at that time. However, when 1800 came in, the oiran slowly fell out of demand when wealthy Japanese men chose geisha more as their companion of choice due to their ‘chic’ and modern demeanour.
Simply put: the rise of the geisha was the fall of the oiran.
Japanexperterna / CC | Right photo by: Keisuke Makino / CC . Meanwhile, when World War II began, geisha started to decline; they had to close their okiya (geisha houses), and the teahouses and bars had to close shop as well. As a result, they went to other places in Japan for safety or for work (such as in factories, etc.). It didn’t help either that some prostitutes started to refer to themselves as “geisha girls” to American military men.
Nonetheless, when the war ended, the returning geisha made it a point to reinstate their traditional standards as highly-skilled entertainers, and at the same time, they proposed increased rights for their profession. • Myths to bust about the geisha and maiko of today •
1 MYTH: Geishas are prostitutes. TRUTH: Geisha are NOT prostitutes. They are and always will be highly-skilled entertainers. (It helps to note anyway that prostitution is illegal in Japan ever since 1956.) Plus, even though there were some of them in the olden times who offered sex to their clients, it helps to note that it wasn’t a part of their true traditional function or training — call them rebels if you will, and they might just be so since as I’ve discussed previously, a geisha is imprisoned in the past should they ever offer sex to others casually.
Of course a geisha is free to pursue personal relationships with any man that she meets through work; but such would most likely never be casual nor will it ever be her goal for such an interaction. They live in a geisha district (hanamachi) which is very closely-knit community, and given how greatly they value their reputation, they would always pick their relationships carefully. Should they ever fall in love and want to marry, then sometimes they must retire because geisha (most especially in Kyoto) are expected to be single. Nevertheless, there are now a lot of places in Japan (like Tokyo) that allow married, divorced and/or women with children to become geisha.
2 MYTH: Geisha have personal relationships with a patron or danna. TRUTH: This is NOT true today. It may have been tradition in the past for geisha to take a danna or a patron who was wealthy enough to support the expenses related to her training and other costs in order to have a personal relationship in return (which was not inherently sexual) with a geisha. But today, it is very unusual for a geisha to have a personal relationship with a danna and should they ever have one (which is rare because most of them love to be autonomous now), it’s mainly because of the patron’s desire to help prolong the geisha arts and traditions — nothing more. Again, a geisha and her danna can fall in love but intimacy is never viewed as an exchange for the danna’s financial support.
3 MYTH: Young girls are sold to okiya (geisha houses) by their parents because of poverty. TRUTH: It may have happened way in the past, but nowadays, NO young girl is sold to an okiya due to poverty as it is more of a personal career choice in order to become a maiko/geisha. In fact, a lot of girls have to persuade their parents today in order to let them become one. Once a girl’s parents do consent to it, she will have to be interviewed first by the association as well as the female owners of the ochaya (tea houses) before being accepted.
4 MYTH: Geisha are lead by men and money (as portrayed in the movie: Memoirs of a Geisha). TRUTH: This is NOT true. It helps to always remember that the movie was mainly fictional and set to be ‘sellable’ to audiences. (Well, hello Hollywood!). Being a geisha is like being an artist or a performer — it’s a respectable profession and much like any career you pursue in life that you are passionate about, you do it because you love it while also earning your living from it. They don’t go around chasing after men either; it just so happens that the people that they present their art and performances to are predominantly men.
5 MYTH: Maiko go through mizuage wherein a patron would pay to take their virginity. (As also seen in ‘Memoirs of a Geisha’). TRUTH: Nope. This kind of mizuage was actually a ceremony done by young courtesans and prostitutes in the past — NOT by maiko. Though there are speculations that this mizuage (taking of the virginity) was done by some maiko in the past, what’s important to remember is that this is NOT done today nor was it ever traditionally accepted to be done by geisha for their maiko. The only kind of mizuage that maiko have done was a ceremony wherein older geisha would symbolically cut the topknot of the maiko’s hair to signify her coming of age (of becoming an adult). • How to identify geisha and maiko •
As you visit Japan, take note of the below points to help you quickly differentiate a geisha from their apprentice (maiko):
AGE. As I’ve already discussed, maiko usually start their training at a young age (15 to 16 for Kyoto and 18 for Tokyo) so they are much younger than a full-fledged geisha who often start at around 21 to 23. .
HAIRSTYLE. Geisha usually wear wigs whereas maiko have their hair styled naturally. A geisha’s wig and a maiko’s natural hair are regularly styled by highly-skilled artisans (lately though, traditional hairstyling is slowly phasing out because it can sometimes lead to balding on the top of their head).
TRIVIA: Maiko have their hair styled elaborately every week. To keep their hairstyle intact, maiko sleep with their necks on small supports called as takamakura (they are tall uncomfortable-looking pillows; if you’ve watched the movie Memoirs of a Geisha, you’ll know what I’m talking about).
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HAIR ORNAMENTS. Maiko wear more elaborate decorative hair ornaments called as kanzashi and the designs can vary depending on the stage of training that they are currently in. During their .
MAKEUP. On a typical day, a maiko will be seen wearing the most recognizable feature of geisha: the full white face makeup. Geisha, on the other hand, do NOT have this makeup on unless they are going to do a special performance. . Maiko will always have a noticeable white band of unpainted skin on their hairline (since they don’t wear wigs) and their eyebrows will be shaded in red or pink, their cheeks slightly blushed, and their eyes outlined with black eyeliner and red eyeshadow. During the early stages of their training, ‘junior’ maiko (or minarai) will only have their lower lip painted in red and as they advance (as ‘senior’ maiko), both their lips will be painted but only in a thin line. For geisha who need to have their face painted when they work, apart from having no visible part of exposed skin near their hairline (since they wear wigs), their eyebrows will also only have a faint shade of red, their eyes outlined in black (if a ‘senior’ geisha) or with a slight red (if they’re a ‘junior’ geisha) and their lips painted fully in red. Joe Baz / CC | Circle & right photo by: Annie Guilloret / CC
TRIVIA: This white makeup fully covers the geisha or maiko’s face, neck, and chest — except for the nape (called komata or the back of a person’s neck) which they will make sure is visible when they would later on wear their kimono. This part is considered to be a traditionally erotic area in Japan so they accentuate this sensuality by customarily leaving an inverted “V” shape on a geisha, and an inverted “W” shape on those who just debuted as maiko. (This style is called as eri-ashi)
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KIMONO. A maiko usually wears a colorfully-designed long-sleeved kimono (Japanese traditional garment) with a wider obi (sash) that is set to look like a bow as it drapes down to their back. A maiko’s collar is also a distinct feature because it is thick and embroidered, hangs very loosely and are mainly in the color red (other colors can only be gold or white). It will slowly have white embroidered patterns as they advance in their training but it will always remain to be dominantly red. Geisha, who are more mature, wear more subdued but refined kimonos with shorter sleeves that are usually in one color with a simple pattern at the bottom. Their obi is shorter too and it looks like a square bow knot at the back. Lastly, their collars are completely white and are not as loose. (Both maiko and geisha though wear kimonos according to the season).
NOTE: Wanna try and wear a kimono? There are kimono rental shops in Tokyo! Read here to learn more.
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FOOTWEAR. Maiko generally wear very high wooden sandals, to prevent their kimono from touching the ground, called as okobo. Geisha use shorter wooden sandals called zori or geta (maiko will wear this too if the situation calls for it; but they wear okobo more). Laura Tomàs Avellana / CC | Right photo by: Joi Ito / CC .
• How to spot the fake geisha and maiko •
You might have heard of makeover (henshin) studios in Japan that will dress tourists up as a geisha or maiko for a day. With this in mind, if you have ever seen a geisha or maiko while you are around popular spots in Japan — like in parts of Kyoto or Tokyo — it is highly likely that you have witnessed or took a picture with a fake one.
To help you identify and spot these tourists who are only dressing up, see below the several features that they will possess. (Ultimately, henshin studios make it a point to NOT dress up their clients authentically; otherwise, they will be shut down by the authorities.)
They have mismatched hairstyle, makeup, and clothing. Taking into considerations the descriptions that I’ve made previously of authentic geisha and maiko features, a tourist in disguise will always have a wrong mix of characteristics. For example, most of them will have the decorative long hair ornament (of a junior maiko) yet with both her lips painted (like a senior maiko or geisha) and with a wig on (though some shops can now do your hair too). Also look at the 3rd one, she has a camera with her! (Maiko are not allowed to use any electronics while working). .
They are walking around crowded areas. A true maiko or geisha knows that she is sought out by tourists and they can get ‘mobbed’ in a sense; so, you will NEVER find them walking through a populated area while in their full regalia. What they usually do is walk through back streets and alleyways in order to avoid the crowd. Hence, if you ever see a maiko or geisha walking casually through a well-known place, she is surely a tourist dressed up as one. .
They are out during the early time of the day. Geisha and maiko commonly work in the evenings; though it’s possible that they are booked for an early banquet, it almost happens rarely. .
They are willingly taking photos with others. Geisha and maiko are actually paid for the time that requires them to get from point A to point B, so when they are out on the streets, they will never stop by to take photos with tourists. (You can always ask them though if you can take a photo, but do it quick). Therefore, if you see one who is taking her sweet time pleasing a crowd of tourists to take a photo of her (unless it’s an official event) then she is a tourist who had a makeover. .
They are accompanied by other people who are in normal clothing. Saw a geisha or maiko with an elder or companion who has to aid her while she walks in her high wooden shoes? That’s a tourist. Real geisha and maiko are trained to walk well with their zori or okobo sandals. Besides, they always know their way around town too. If they’re ever accompanied, it will usually be by a young girl in a kimono who will carry her belongings (this is a new maiko in training who is called a ‘shikomi‘). .
Actually, you wouldn’t be aware of it but you might have had a legitimate geisha or maiko in your midst especially when you’re walking around in Kyoto. When they’re in their normal clothes (such as a yukata), identifying them will naturally be tough — unless you are a fan who recognizes their face or unless they are wearing their signature kimono and traditional white makeup (shiro-nuri).
NOTE: There’s another kind apart from henshin tourists whom you could easily mistake as legitimate geisha and maiko, and they’re called furisode-san or kimono-san.
An established business by ‘Furisode Gakuin’ at Tokyo’s Asakusa district in the 1990s, these furisode-san are paid entertainers only who mimic the look and services of geisha and maiko at a cheaper price (usually around 25,000 yen or $250 for a 2-hour party). They only have about 3 months of training and again — they are NOT real geisha nor maiko.
In fact, most of the geisha experiences that you might have actually read in other travel blogs are actually experiences with a furisode-san. How do the Japanese feel about these people? A mix of approval and disapproval. Approval since they help gather interest in real geisha; disapproval since they deem it as disrespectful to the real tradition.
How then can you ensure that you’re not booking an experience with a furisode-san? Apart from the cheap price as an indicator, make sure that you book through legitimate travel agencies who only seek to provide real geisha/maiko experiences (note: I will update this section soon with relevant links for booking legit geisha).
» The geisha of today
Though the geisha tradition is dwindling (due to its exclusivity, expensive price, and traditional form), it is in Kyoto where it remains to be the strongest today. Kyoto is also the pinnacle area where experiencing geisha remains to be the best and most prestigious in its five hanamachi (geisha districts or “flower towns”), namely: Gion Kōbu, Ponto-chō, Kamishichiken, Gion Higashi, and Miyagawa-chō.
If we have to put it into numbers, as I’ve previously mentioned, there only about 1,000 to 2,000 geisha now and they are found in several cities across Japan — not only in Kyoto, but in Tokyo (with well-known hanamachi of Shimbashi, Asakusa, and Kagurazaka) and Kanazawa too. It is said that there are about 300 geisha in Kyoto; but the exact numbers there as well as in other areas are unknown to us outsiders.
TRIVIA: I was told that there exists a male geisha in Japan. His name is Eitaro and he is found in Tokyo’s Omori district.
Speaking of hanamachi, these are places that are generally referred to as the ‘flower and willow world’ (karyukai). Given that they are speckled with okiya and ochaya that are owned and run by women, all the power is then held by females. (Men in these districts are rather mainly artisans, dressers, or wig makers.) Children who are girls are also preferred so that they can later take on the business — this is a trait that is in contrast to the rest of Japan. • The foreigner or non-Japanese geisha •
In order to keep up with the times, some okiya have been accepting foreign nationals as geisha. So far there are only a few of them that have been admitted. (Below are their Japanese names, and the data below is as of 2016.).
Ibu – a geiko in Anjo, Aichi Prefecture // originally from Ukraine ~ source ~ retired
Juri – a geisha in the resort town of Yugawara // originally from Peru ~ source ~ unsure if still working or retired
Fukutarō – a geisha in Izu-Nagaoka, Shizuoka // originally from Romania ~ source ~ retired
Sayuki – an (unofficial) geisha in Asakusa, Tokyo // originally from Australia ~ source ~ debuted as a geisha, but has been disassociated with the Asakusa Geisha Association and has since worked independently
Rinka – a geisha in Shimoda, Shizuoka Prefecture // originally from China ~ source ~ unsure if still working or retired
Mutsuki – a geisha in Shinigawa, Tokyo // originally from China ~ source ~ working as a geisha
Kimicho – a geisha in the Oimachi district of Shinagawa Tokyo // originally from America ~ source ~ worked as a geisha since 2015, now retired
Kimicho just started last October 2015 and I personally had the pleasure of meeting and talking to her! Read about it here!
Evidently, you will not see foreigner or non- Japanese geisha admitted (yet) in Kyoto as they still remain to be somewhat strictly traditional. Nevertheless, it is great to see that the rest of Japan is slowly opening its geisha tradition to others who love the culture, even if they are not of Japanese descent. • How to become a geisha •
I’ve discussed this already above, but just to reiterate, training to become a geisha in which you start as a maiko begins at 15 to 16 in Kyoto and 18 in Tokyo (in the past, it started at 3 – 5 years old). So these days, girls must have at least graduated from middle school (except Kyoto who has special laws for it) before they can make the decision to train as a maiko and eventually become a geisha.
However, it is rather more common for young Japanese women to start training after high school or college; but a lot more would begin later. If they are above 21 to 23, they will already start as a geisha (with a year’s training) since they are too old to be a maiko. Having said that, one doesn’t have to start as a maiko since they can already start to train as a geisha — but of course, the allure of the overall comprehensive training process as you progress from a maiko to a full-fledged geisha can be quite an experience (and can add more to one’s reputation in the community).
So in order to become a geisha, once you reach the age required, you or your parent need to contact for example: Ookini Zaidan (the guild for all of Kyoto’s hanamachi businesses) and you must fulfill their other basic requirements: not taller than 160cm, at least 43kg in weight, willingness to train in the traditional arts for years, etc. Once they consider you a good candidate, they will send out your profile to okiya houses that might be interested in training you.
NOTE: Okiya will shoulder all your expenses for food, training, clothes, etc. once you are accepted by them and bonded by a contract. When you start working you can slowly pay off these debts.
If you are non-Japanese, Kyoto is a hard environment to crack in so you’re better off applying to other places like Tokyo and applying to okiyas yourself (better if you know someone who can introduce you to an okasan or a mother of an okiya/geisha house). By the way, do NOT try to apply if you don’t know the language yet; otherwise, absolutely no okiya will take you! • The training of a maiko •
There are several stages to undergo if you train as a maiko. First of all, the stage of…
Shikomi. As you are taken in, you will first be regarded as a shikomi, someone who basically works as a helper for the okiya as you do errands, help other geisha and maiko dress up, etc. — but at the same time you are also slowly being trained into the lifestyle. Example: adjusting to wearing a traditional yukata as normal clothing, growing out your hair, learning the proper demeanor, going to school (kaburejo or nyokobo) to learn the arts of the shamisen instrument, dance, tea ceremony, etc. » This can last for about 6 months before going to the next stage.
Minarai. At this point, you start your formal training and be regarded as a minarai which literally means “learning by watching”. In this stage, you will have an older geisha for a mentor whom you will call onēsan (sister) and this will be a bond that will stay for life. You are then expected to accompany your onesan to ozashiki (dinner banquet events) so that you can sit and observe her as well as other geisha and maiko interact with the customers. Through this way, you will not only gain real insights of the job but you will also gain the chance to know potential clients. At times, your onesan will allow you to perform but she will keep a close eye on you. » This training period starts a month before your official debut as a maiko.
Misedashi. This is your official debut as a maiko and this ceremony is like a grand public party wherein your name will be spread out across the hanamachi. You will also undergo a ritual called as sansankudo (also done in wedding ceremonies) where you exchange cups with your onesan, other geisha, and senior maiko — people who you are now bound to. Afterwards, you are now free to hold your own parties and perform in festivals; but you will always join your onesan at her events and you will also still continue learning from her. » Normally, this stage will last about 4 to 5 years.
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• Debuting as a geisha •
Erikae. Around the age of 21 to 23, you will be promoted as a full-fledged geisha in yet another public ceremony called erikae or “turning of the collar” wherein as the name implies, they will turn your red collar to white as a sign of your transition to maturity from that of a maiko girl into a geisha woman.
Geisha. You will continue studying, working, and holding ozashiki banquets until you pay off your debts to your okiya. You could also take on a minarai/maiko under your wing. When your debts to your okiya are settled, you may choose to move out, work independently, or continue living in the okiya.
Hiki-iwai. This is a celebration that marks your retirement as a geisha, and it can be because of various reasons: you want to quit the geisha life, you want to pursue another career, you are too old to work publicly, you want to get married, or you want to become an okami-san (proprietress of either an ochaya or okiya).
Realistically-speaking however, not a lot of maiko make it to the geisha level because the lifestyle can be quite difficult. Also, once someone does become a geisha, it’s also common for them to retire within 5 years of their debut.
Anyhow, geisha and maiko alike are celebrated and they have a HUGE fanbase — not only in Japan but worldwide too! » Where to find or see geisha?
The geisha world needs to survive. It used to only be exclusively available for the rich or well-connected Japanese, but now it’s possible for other people as well as tourists to meet and see them through travel agencies and hotels.
But certainly, like I mentioned
Go book a spot in Niigata Hanamachi Chaya’s program in Niigata City. This is the cheapest way to meet, play, and talk to a real geisha up close since you only have to pay 3,000 yen ($26~ of Php 1,300~). It’s very similar to an ozashiki (dinner banquet) experience. To find out more about it…
» READ: Meet, Play & Talk with Niigata’s Furumachi Geigi (Geisha) for Only $26!
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Go to Miyako Odori in Kyoto. This is a yearly spring dance during April done by Kyoto’s geisha and maiko. Ticket prices start at 2,500 yen ($24~ or Php 1,100~) and you can see more info about this here. .
Go to Kamishichiken in Kyoto during February and July to September. Geisha and maiko of this district serve tea and wagashi (traditional Japanese sweets) to about 3,000 guests in an annual open-air tea ceremony held on February 25 (the plum-blossom festival in the Shinto shrine of Kitano Tenman-gū). Additionally, ever since 2010, there is a beer garden that opens up to the public at the Kamishichiken Kaburenjo Theatre during July to August (6PM to 10PM) where you can get the chance to be served by maiko and geisha. (At night, geisha would also sometimes to traditional dances). .
Go to the narrow alleyways of Gion, Kyoto to catch sight of a maiko or geisha. Their work often starts at around 6PM to 8PM but ordinarily, you can have a better chance of finding geisha or maiko at around 10PM to 11PM on the streets of Gion as they make their way to work. (Again, take note of my tips above on how to spot the real ones!) Unfortunately, there really is NO one guaranteed spot where you can see them because they can be elusive and they can be anywhere! Nevertheless, it’s said that the most common hubs would be the street of Pontocho Alley and Hanamikoji-dori (around 5-6PM) so you can try your chances there.
I managed to catch a glimpse of a real maiko when I was walking through Gion (on my way to Gion Corner). It was all unplanned since I was just following the fastest walking route shown to me by Google Maps! I was mindlessly going through narrow streets when ‘lo and behold, I saw a maiko emerging from a nearby alleyway who proceeded to stand on the corner, seemingly waiting for her taxi. From what I remember, it was around the Tominagacho area; my friends told me that it was possible that the maiko I saw had visited a nearby shrine/temple before going to work (which they usually do).
TIP: If you want to do a guided tour around Kyoto and learn more about the geishas, you can join this geisha districts tour.
NOTE: Don’t expect to see geisha and maiko in their full regalia around Gion during “Obon Festival”, the annual Buddhist event for commemorating the souls of one’s ancestors, because they don’t work at that time. This happens during the middle of August.
ETIQUETTE: Should you ever see a geisha or maiko as you go through the alleyways of Gion, be respectful. Taking a quick photo is fine as long as you don’t get in their way; but of course, it’s also more tactful if you ask for their permission first. Also, NEVER ever touch them and their kimono nor pull them back to make them stop and pose for you; that’s just plain rude BUT also because you have to remember that their kimonos are INCREDIBLY expensive. A famous geisha once said this: “We are not Mickey mouse and this is not Disney World, we are not here to entertain the public, we are here to entertain our patrons.”
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Go and watch the show at Gion Corner in Kyoto. This is a theater that presents regular one-hour shows of 7 performing arts in Kyoto — one of which is the well-known kyo-mai dance performance by maiko dancers. There are 2 shows everyday at 6PM and 7PM [see schedule here] with prices for adults at 3,150 yen ($30~ or Php 1,400). I went to this show and I loved it! (A lot of people on TripAdvisor left such bad reviews for this show, but that’s mainly because they didn’t read their pamphlet beforehand so that they can understand the rest of the 6 Japanese performances that are apart from the well-anticipated maiko dance.) .
Go to Azuma Odori in Tokyo. A dance performance by the geisha of Shinbanshi, Tokyo are held annually at the Shinbanshi Enbujo Theater in May. (For more info, go here). .
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Overall
I hope this article helped in making you gain more insight about the mysterious yet captivating world of geisha and their apprentice maiko. It took me a while to finish this up but I really enjoyed writing it… and I hope you enjoyed it as well!
If in case though that this is the first time you’ve heard of Japan’s geisha, it is therefore also my hope that you’ve now discovered a great appreciation for their wondrous traditions.
P.S.: If you are more knowledgeable about geisha than me and that I’ve accidentally made a false statement above, do let me know in the comments below. After all, I understand that this tradition maintains an air of mysteriousness and anonymity since it adds to their overall ‘allure’; therefore, there might be some conflicting facts online and in some materials and interviews. Regardless, I’m quite confident with the accuracy of the things above especially after doing long hours of research and then conversing with a true-blue geisha to verify my facts. Let me know!
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