#fucking loser couldve tried to apply to different schools if he really wanted to

[blog-by-kij]

I have only basic understanding of what anyone means by ai taking peoples art (something on the ever growing list of things to look into, I mean obviously it’s all trained on real things but I don't have complete understanding), so I can’t comment on that.

But I just checked the ai artwork tag with the intention of unfollowing it because tbh, when I first followed it I though it would be like legitimate things that people wanted to use ai to make and that it would be good to know what’s going on in that sphere and to see what kinds of things people make with ai. Idk maybe I’m following the wrong tags for that, and I’m definitely not a puritan, but like I’m really kinda tired of seeing stupid gratuitous nonsense art of women-type things that are clearly trained on porn or insta baddies.

My issue is not nudity, it’s not nudity in art, its not erotic nudity. It’s not insta baddies either. There’s something here that I can almost pick out, something about how porn and the media in general, especially media intended to be part of selling you something a bit more than just a product (such as lifestyles, experiences, and ideas), that warps peoples perception of reality, and now that is being seen and reflected back directly at us with this specific type of ai art. Because women in porn are real, insta baddies are real, supermodels are real, but basically none of them look like in real life how they do in the final images because of setup, lighting, and a lot of final editing. I swear this was at one point well understood.

I thought that ai is just a tool and what people can make with that tool will be something that is worth paying attention to, even as I try to figure it all out and decide how I feel about it all ethically. I don’t believe that declaring ai art flat out wrong in all circumstances is the correct approach. It doesn’t explain why, or what to do about it; doesn't seem to help me understand; doesn't seem to actually contribute to the discussion. And in general, I agree that human artists will always be here forever, they already have been here forever. I don't believe that ai art will ever be as valued as human made art. But I’d like to see what people want to do with it. It could be fun—if everyone had developed art skills and time was not a factor, what would people make. What would they like to make if they could. Something like a look into peoples mind and all that. Potentially interesting, potentially valuable.

But like, women don’t look like that and they never do. The proportions are wrong, but only slightly, the anatomy is off, but just barely. Nobody’s skin is rubber adjacent, nobody has anime inspired eyes, real breasts simply do not work like that for most women, and none of them have even the slightest hint of the lower belly pooch that most women have; none of them have any visible marks or defects, no body fat—unless that's the kink, in which case, it still isn't quite how it works, and yet no muscle either unless that's the kink, in which case.....and so on and forever that I can just almost see the porn categories that were fed to the ai to create it. I can’t believe that anyone thinks that this is a good use of ai to the point where this is basically all that the tag is comprised of. It makes me sad in a way, because there now exists a tool that essentially allows everyone to create art at some level of proficiency that is much higher than they have, which is maybe what they want but don't have the time or the desire to put in the time to learn those art skills. I believe everyone should make art if they want to, they shouldn't ever let "i'm not good at it" from stopping them, but at the same time I understand that sometimes people don't want to put in the time or effort to learn art skills but they still want to make something casually and a bit higher quality than they can produce. ai served that niche perfectly. It could've been so interesting.

It’s exactly as you said, uncanny valley and idk I just appreciate that I saw this post when I went to go unfollow the tag. Maybe tumblr isn't the place to find the type of usage of ai art that I'm looking for. I get better results from reddit, and instagram, but even there the problem that I have still persists. Also the people on reddit seem weirdly angry about it all, at least last time I looked.

It’s like I’m following a porn bot and it’s annoying because I thought there’d be idk…more variety to ai art because, simply, there's more variety to people and their ideas. But. I guess not?? The ai thirst trap art is horny, i guess, but you look like uncooked dough dipped in lacquer with eyeballs that I can tell are definitely balls underneath and now the uncanny valley is too high that I’m actively revolted and annoyed now. What if you showed emotion at all, anything at all, can you give anything other than a customer service smile?? They're sorta 3D and the huge boobs try so hard, god bless, but for some reason this art still seem so flat and 2D and that annoys me, idk why. Too bad that seems to be what the majority of ai art is, at least on that one tag.

Also you're right, ai art can be good. But it's never spectacular or anything like that. We humans will have discussions till the end of our time about what the greatest piece of art ever made was, or which are the top 100 or more of the most important pieces of art ever made. And we will never reach a consensus on that because we've made a lot of art, and everyone has a different idea of what "the greatest" and "important" means. This is good, imho. What does a great piece of ai art look like? idk if anyone's decided yet but I'll bet it looks like every other piece of ai art, and that's part of the problem with it. What can ai art do that a human hasn't already done? We know it hasn't done those things, because it's trained on things humans made before it existed. So, what can it do then if it can't do anything more than us? Human emotion and experience leads to people understanding their world in unique and different ways, that they sometimes make art of to express. You maybe can ask an ai to create an image of despair, but it can't conceive of that concept in any way that hasn't already been thought of by us. Maybe it can create an image that looks like that, but there's no backstory or understanding behind it and that probably would show in some way.

(Just btw, the solution about this annoying ai art thing is not making the ai create thirst trap images that look more like real women because that won't happen, simply because that isn't what a lot of you are into, just being real here, and also that gets too close to, and inevitably leads to, the very real and very serious issue of deepfake revenge porn, and I'm going to assume that everyone understands why that's wrong. Perhaps a mistake to assume that, but it is a slightly different topic for a different day.)

Perhaps I am stuck in the past of the pre-GPT world, but I think even as AI art grows, real art will still be valued- because of the Uncanny Valley.

Humans evolved to have a fear or dislike of things that are close to humans, but are not QUITE us. Several theories explain why this evolved (including skinwalkers, corpses, and Neanderthals), but the effect is the same.

Humans know what humans look like. AI just predicts what the next pixel should be. It's good... but it's not THAT good.

I doubt AI will be used for more than little indie projects and perhaps RPs, but big studio (and even smaller studio) companies will still have hordes of normal artists doing their thing.

There is also stylization. AI tends to be realistic since it's trained on photos, and it can't make it's own style that much.

Now if your issue is with AI taking your art as training data without your consent, then yeah that's a dick move and should be very illegal.