#fucking ain't immoral

[neuroticbookworm]

Sex and Morality in Only Friends

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My Only Friends fandom experience so far has been ..interesting, to say the least. While the big brain metas that y'all have been churning out have been tickling my brain and giving me life, I’ve also noticed a dissonance in how the characters and their gay wrongs are judged by the viewers in the court of morals on this hellsite.

All of these characters are messy. All of these characters are some level of toxic. All of these characters are engaged in some type of immoral behavior. But one of them gets judged much more harshly by the audience for his flaws than his counterparts. And it got me curious about how we generally perceive someone's morality, and how certain factors greatly influence the lens through which the morals of a character are judged. Like sex, par exemple.

We've been here before, folks. We have talked about sex, sex and more sex, our preconceptions around sex, and how it might affect the way we watch this show. @lurkingshan and @waitmyturtles did an excellent unwinding, here and here, on how we must recalibrate our lenses when we engage with Only Friends, so we can receive, enjoy, understand and judge the show and its characters on the queer scale and not an heteronormative and western one. @wen-kexing-apologist implored us to take a pause and reflect on respectable promiscuity and how it skews the way we judge these characters on the basis of whether they’re having the “right” kind of sex.

Here’s the thing, though. Sex, the kind of sex, the amount of sex and the self-acceptance of one’s sexual proclivity are all inadvertently linked to how much a person conforms to the society around them. You fuck too little, you’ll be dubbed a virgin who can’t drive. You fuck too much, you’ll be dubbed a slut. And if you’re openly comfortable and secure about who you fuck, where you fuck, and how much you fuck, you are ..unusual, to put it mildly. These characters are not the norm, which makes them unpredictable for the audience. And when the unpredictable one makes questionable choices, it’s easy to equivocate the nature of their sex life to their moral compass. Which is exactly how Boston is put on trial on the numerous analyses and thinkpieces that are unleashed here, week after week.

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Boston is a slut. He has sex more times on average than his peers. He has sex with multiple partners. And he’s very unapologetic about all of it. He knows exactly how he likes his sex, frequent and untethered, and he does not give a flying fuck about what people think. Which means he becomes a character whose mistakes are considered more egregious than others in the eyes of the audience.

Let me list all the gay wrongs Boston has committed in the show so far according to the discourse:

Recording Ray and Mew during their kiss (and using it to bust up Mew’s relationship and manipulate Top)

Cornering and fucking Top who was presumably in a relationship with Mew

Revealing Ray’s obsession with Mew with the intention of creating a rift between Ray and Sand

Being catty and manipulative

Manipulating Nick’s affections

Trying to fuck a dude who was already in a relationship (in episode 1)

I’ll admit, that’s a long list. And we’re only halfway through the show. But Boston is not the only one committing gay wrongs in this show. Most of the crimes listed above have an equivalent committed by other characters. Let’s take a walk down the lane of fuckups and refresh our memories.

Recording Ray and Mew during their kiss (and using it to bust up Mew's relationship and manipulate Top)

This one’s pretty easy. Boston is not the only voyeur in this show (@ranchthoughts, captain of the ephemerality squad) Nick recorded Top and Boston having sex in the car, and let his roommate Sand in on the secret. Which later had disastrous consequences (so far) and I’m sure will continue to bite multiple people in the ass in the future episodes.

Cornering and fucking Top who was presumably in a relationship with Mew

First off, Top knew exactly what Boston was doing everytime he cornered and seduced Top, and Top even says so the next time Boston manages to get him alone in the elevator. 

So is it fair to judge Boston as the sole perpetrator here? Or did Top have a lot more agency in their car hookup than we give him credit for?

Secondly, Ray has been crossing Sand’s boundaries throughout this show. And just like Top, Sand allows Ray to do so, even though he clearly has the agency to stop Ray if he really wants to.

Revealing Ray’s obsession with Mew with the intention of creating a rift between Ray and Sand

Holding important information and controlling how it flows in the group for maximum destruction is a game Boston seems to excel at. But he’s not the only player. This week, after a heated exchange with Top, we saw Sand scheme his way into Nick’s phone, copy the incriminating audio recording, pass it on to Ray, who he knew would confront Boston AND inform Mew. Thus enacting a double revenge on Boston and Top. This turn of Sand was so deliciously slimy and morally vile that it led to @waitmyturtles rethinking how Sand might be using sympathy to his advantage (and how Jojo and NiNew might be using First Kanaphan’s fame and public image to elicit the sympathetic reaction that can then be subverted in the show)

Being catty and manipulative

Manipulation among these “friends” is the bread and butter of Only Friends and Boston ain’t the only one doing it. Mew and Top had built their entire courtship with games and prizes, each hiding what they really wanted from the relationship. Ray has been using Sand as an emotional bandaid, while he was still obsessed with Ray. Nick tried and failed to manipulate Top into leaving Boston alone (peak comedic moment in the show, tbh). Hell, even Cheum has been catty to everyone throughout the show, which lead to her getting dubbed as the veritable mean girl by my pal @lurkingshan

Manipulating Nick’s affections

I don’t agree with this one at all, fam. Boston has always been clear about where he stands in the relationship. He has always conveyed his stance to Nick clearly, who would then pout in disappointment, to which Boston would respond with a reassurance, like “You are my favorite”. Boston is in the clear here.

Trying to fuck a dude who was already in a relationship (in episode 1)

This one is particularly hilarious to me, because this scenario is also explored in Gay OK Bangkok 2, which was referenced as an essential homework for Only Friends by most of the posts I’ve linked above. Open relationships exist. Couples engage in threesomes. The guy who Boston was talking to in episode 1 did not reject Boston’s advances. Instead, he pulled up his phone and showed him what his boyfriend looks like, so the three of them can fuck. Together. With everyone’s consent. Having a consensual threesome is not a gay wrong and it does not need a defense.

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Characters that are morally black and white are inherently comforting. They do not force us to engage with our internal moral compass to ascertain whether they are good or bad; it will be laid out for us, clear as day. And we will be reassured by the narrative that we are the good guys. But these characters are also not realistic; people in real life are not as clear cut as we would like them to be. The characters in Only Friends are young, queer, insecure, and human. Boston is no better than any of them, and more importantly – no worse.

@lurkingshan wrote a passionate defense of Brian Kinney from Queer as Folk, an iconic gay slut who cannot be more different than Boston. And yet, the comparisons were made, because they both choose to fuck unapologetically. The comparison erased Brian’s commitment to his community, his moral code, his bond with his friends. In short, by throwing him in the same slut bucket as Boston, his actual morality was entirely erased, and replaced with assumptions based on his sex life. Which is reckless and dangerous, if you ask me.

When Shan and I chatted with @bengiyo about Boston and Brian, he summarized the treatment of queer characters perfectly: “They hate the men for being sluts and they hate the boys for being repressed”. Well, I implore that we learn to understand them right, in all their messy glory, and not judge them for how they fuck.

[atopfourthwall]

What's your position on Section 31? Because on one hand, you need an espionage and intelligence organization, but on the other hand, unnacountable espionage agencies tend to do more harm than good.

Section 31 are villains, full-stop. Starfleet already HAS an intelligence organization. It's called Starfleet Intelligence. Their effectiveness is certainly questionable, but Section 31 is essentially a clandestine terrorist organization approved of by members of Starfleet and Bashir was right to want it gone. You can't be preaching a utopia and that you stand for higher morals while tacitly approving of something that breaks all those morals. And as you said: they're unaccountable. Where's the justice for the illegal and immoral things they did? The harm they've caused? And frankly I'm disgusted that modern Trek decided, "COOL! LET'S GIVE 'EM A MOVIE AND RETCON THEM INTO BEING AN ORGANIZATION EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT!" And no, I haven't watched the trailer for said movie. Fuck that movie, I ain't watching it and I'm not going to watch promotion for it or their fucking people-eating dictator character that everyone on the show declared was cool because she spouted one-liners and wore leather.

[porcelain-gal]

one thing i recommend (YOU DON'T HAVE TO!) that shifters with modern drs script is this specific thing:

"none of the content creators, celebrities, and people in general i like or will like in the future have done, said, or like anything immoral, problematic, or disgusting and NEVER WILL."

because i swear on all that i fucking love if one more of my favorite creators gets called out for some stupid shit they ain't have NO BUSINESS DOING?? i'm flipping this planet UPSIDE DOWWWNN!!

[multifandomslxt]

I'm here to bully you so sit tf down because I ain't playin witcho ass

Churchboy!Doie texting you at 2 in the morning and telling you to meet him at the church because he snuck and got a key copied so you can both fulfill your fantasy of fucking in the church.

he keeps the lights dim as to not draw any attention to the building and he's pressing you down against the podium and fucking you from behind and saying the filthiest things in your ear

"You love me so fucking much... you think God's gonna be mad at you for that? For loving me as much as you do? No, baby... we're okay... you're my girl... there's nothing wrong with what I'm doing to you... not a single thing so you just stay right there and let me have this pussy, baby... it's mine anyway."

The podium rocks and creaks under the weight of both your bodies

Eventually a bible falls open on the floor

Revelations 21:8

“But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death”

Doyoung smirks against your hair, “would you look at that, looks like we’re already condemned”

He begins to pick up the speed of his thrusts

“He must be watching me break you” he says teasingly.

Suddenly he pulls out of you

“Why don’t we go ahead and ask for forgiveness”

Without missing a beat he brings you both to the altar.

“Kneel” he commands

“Kneel and beg him for forgiveness while I fuck you mercilessly” he whispers against your ear, his tip teasingly stroking your entrance.

NOW WE CAN BOTH SUFFER😭😭😭💀

[bluejaytaco]

Who owns Alastor theory (very serious)

So!

Alastor was a serial killer when he was alive. A serial killer who had a focus on immoral people (people he considered immoral which is a discussion for another day.) So, here's how it goes. Follow me, because there's a few "what ifs?" here:

Alastor's living his best life. Successful radio host by day, murderous psychopath by night. Charming, smart, feeling pretty much untouchable, you know all that jazz. But he would know, eventually death will be after him. So, he makes a deal where he gains a bit of immortality. It's conditional; if he can refrain from being killed, he could live forever. And the longer he lives, the more powerful he becomes. BUT! The person who kills him is the one who owns him.

Alastor, egotistical thing he is, agrees to these conditions. After all, he's the most feared serial killer in Louisiana. Who's gonna take him down?

Meanwhile, in Hell.

Someone ain't happy about the fucker who killed them. Some happy smiling bastard. He wants revenge. So, he hires someone who can enter the mortal realm and take down the fucker.

Blitz, all too happy to have the job, goes up to Earth, finds the fucking psycho in the woods. Makes some sorta joke about deer hunting and puts a bullet right between Alastor's eyes. Blitz then goes home, none the wiser.

Alastor never saw what hit him. He had a few years of his conditioned immortality before it was stripped from him, which granted him quite a boost, but nothing too inhuman. He gets to Hell, expecting to see his new master only to find... no one. Nothing. Zip.

Blitz, having a focus on his new business, only notices something different when he hears some whiny bitch begging him for more power or some shit. He denies all of it, tells the voice to do whatever the fuck it wants for a while. What does he care?

Fucking asshole should go help out the princess of Hell and that shitty hotel or something.

tldr version; Blitz owns Alastor. This is a theory I take very seriously.

(I have so many funny thoughts about the idea of these two being linked. Like Alastor begging his unnamed patron for a little bit of slack in the leash only to be denied with a "fuck no!" Then, later that night, Alastor's hearing his patron, drunk out of his mind, sobbing about his fucked up life. I love this trash fire so much.)

[chaisshitposts]

Hi! I hope you’ve been well

I’d like to ask something

I know that it is possible to manifest literally anything. However, do you think it is immoral for someone to manifest someone that was dead to be alive or revising that I (to make explaining easier, I’m not actually considering this) get bullied when I’ve never been bullied before, or even race change?

I’m interested in your opinion if you’re willing to share,

Have a good day 😊

not at all, you can be as immoral as you want and keep it a secret to yourself, you don't have to share everything you manifest with others. I advise against using your powers for evil but it's your life so... and evil people are successful every day sO—

I manifested my best friend back to life simply bc he died too young and never got the chance to accomplish his dreams. I don't think that's immoral, he didn't deserve to perish RIGHT after we graduated high school. And if that's immoral to other people, I really don't give a fuck.

and race changing is weird🧍 ngl it's also sad in my opinion but it's not like I can stop other people from doin' whatever TF they want, I mean I guess I could but i don't care what they do with their lives, i just hope they learn to love themselves for who they are regardless of their skin color 🕵️

and why wouldn't someone want to manifest never being bullied— that's not immoral, that's just erasing trauma. news flash, having traumatic experiences in your life does not make you 'edgy'

I feel like LOA blogs get caught up when people ask opinions for controversial topics like these, y'all ain't gonna catch me lackin' 🏃🏾

[l0vergirlatheart]

" VACATION " a south park x reader

RINKY-DINK TOWN || info. - past : next

|| GOOD MORNING, BELOVED! ||

        You did not want to come to some rackety, old, boring, snowing, cold, shabby, stupid-ass fucking town for your summer break. Be honest, who would?

        Maybe you'll change your mind later on, but right now, this has got to be the stupidest shit you've ever gone through, and that's something, especially when it comes to you.

|| YOUR CHARACTER CARD ||

Name: [Y/N] NIAKI

Age: 16

Pronouns: They/Them

Sexuality: Pansexual, general attraction to anyone regardless of gender. || asexual, no sexual attraction to anyone at all.

Height: 5'11

Personality: Blunt, tired, easily irritated, quiet, occasionally playful, rarely flirtatious.

Current Thoughts: 'Even if I only have to be in this boring and cold place that can barely be called a town for only two months, there's nothing anyone here or anywhere who can convince me to stay the moment I get the chance to leave.'

|| LOVE INTERESTS ||

MAIN CAST

ROMEOS:

Kyle Brovloski

Craig Tucker & Tweek Tweak

Clyde Donovan

Tolkien Black

Kenny McCormick

Stan Marsh

Leopold "Butters" Stotch

Jimmy Valmer

Scott Malkinson

Pip Pirrup

Damien Thorn

Dovahkkiin "Douchebag, The New Kid"

JULIETS:

Wendy Testaburger

Heidi Turner

Bebe Stevens

Red McArthur

Nichole Daniels

Annie Knitts

|| WARNINGS AND TWS ||

Welcome to South Park, my beloved! This story is going to contain mentions of:

LOTS OF SWEARING

GORE AND BLOOD

SUICIDE

SELF HARM

MENTIONS OF POVERITY

ALCOHOL

MAJOR CRIMES

MENTIONS OF SEXUAL ACTIVITES

AGED UP CHARACTERS (YOU ARE ALL STILL MINORS)

BULLYING (ONLINE AND IRL)

HARRASSMENT (ONLINE AND IRL)

VIOLENCE

DARK JOKES N SHIT

CARTMAN PULLING CARTMAN-TYPE SHIT

AND OTHER SHIT YOU'D EXPECT FROM SOUTH PARK.

CONTINUE WITH CAUTION.

|| SECRETS FROM THE AUTHOR ||

Hey there, []! This book has no outline so far and I'm honestly throwing bullshit that I make up at three in the morning at this right now. There's going to be really slow updates. Enough about that though, time for some secrets!!

1. Yep, instead of the overused 'I just moved here, yadda yadda' scenario, you have actually only came here for summer vacation!

2. You were forced to get out of your house by your parents and they set up this whole trip thing without telling you until a week before departing. 

3. Your parents didn't have half the mind to tell you that you'd also be living there alone for two fucking months, some parents am I right?

4. Luckily, they did already have your stuff packed and had the house rented out and everything else. You're a freeloader! Yay!

5. Oh yeah also, you're rich. Just because. Use that black card, spend all your money, ain't nobody there to stop you!!

6. Nobody in South Park knows of your soon-to-be arrival.

7. There is no school because, you know, summer vacation. This means a lot more free time to get roped into some crazy and immoral shit laze around.

8. Cartman's going to be a little shit about your pronouns, but he's going to be forced to use them because he has zero fucking clue what your gender is.

9. Speaking of fatass, he's not a love interest mainly because I can't write an asshole character suddenly falling love. I just can't. Makes me want to just evaporate.

10. You will get to at least befriend him though. Yay..?

|| SWEET DREAMS, DARLING. ||

[profane-or-pragmatic]

The Devil You Know (Snippet) Pt 11

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Noble intentions do not excuse vile deeds. I know this just as you should know this. Morality must needs be grounded. Ethics apply to behavior regardless of circumstances. If you allow exceptions then there is no point in setting standards or having a belief system.

Unless you're obscenely wealthy, or a hermit, you need to have a framework for society that applies at all times. Not merely guidelines but rules. There should be consequences whether you're caught or not.

Then again, I'm an immoral philosopher. Perhaps my advice about life should be seen as not entirely valid.

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I had to maintain my quote unquote normal life, lest people wonder on me. The Rauch's couldn't be seen to be my patrons by any who knew me. This kept me quite busy and complicated my schedule, but it wasn't a particularly difficult task. Hurstfield had a population of some six point five million at the time, with a further eight odd million in the greater metropolitan region around it. Being generally anonymous was the natural state for most of us.

I could at least set aside my primary focus and goal. Which was to get an agent and publisher for my beloved's poetry; as well as studio time for her music. My work for the Rauch's would easily provide for all that. When the job was finished.

Knowing that this money was coming allowed me to tap into my savings though. To do something special that I'd been longing to do. I bought a Kimberough eight string acoustic guitar for my dear. A Dawnrose Limited Edition in Honeysilkwood with platinum and ebony frets and a Nova Starbright case.

"Guaranteed to improve your playing by at least fifty percent." The music store clerk told me, perhaps a bit giddy from the commission he'd just earned. "Confidence improves a performance! And the way you'll look with this around your neck? Man, if that doesn't make you feel like a serious troubador, nothing will!"

"Here's the deal." I said and turned on my charm. "This is a gift. I need you to pick out a strap, guitar picks, extra strings, whatever."

"Oh, sure! Yeah! I'll get you everything they're gonna need!" The young man said with animated enthusiasm. "Is this for a man or woman?"

"Pretend it could be either." I said and then held up a single finger. Which froze the man in place. "Here's the second part of the deal. If anybody calls or stops in asking if you sold me this guitar? I'll double your commission if you promise to say that this never happened."

"You ain't gotta pay me for that!" The young man said and looked incredulous. "This is a proper serious damn gift! Someone deserves this there's no way I'm letting them return it!"

"I like you." I said honestly and got out my wallet. "Triple that commission."

.

"Oh no! No no no you don't! You are not..."

I cut off my love's protests quickly, because I'd expected them. "I can't return it! The previous owner was hit by a bus. And then a train. Very tragic. And gruesome. His widow sold it to me so she could feed their ninety-seven cats! You don't want kittens to starve, do you?"

"I know how much one of these costs!" She said, still not lifting the guitar from its case.

"It's an expensive operation feeding ninety-seven cats. And you've heard about cats eating their deceased owners." I said and sat upon the windowsill. It's the best spot in her apartment to watch her from. "Think about it. Ninety-seven cats. You think they're going to wait on her to die if they get hungry? They'll eat her the first time she dozes off."

"You're insane. And should not be spending this kind of money on me!"

"I was thinking of the cats." I said and was struck squarely in the forehead by a perfectly thrown olive. "You can stop that. I'm not a cat. I don't need to be fed."

"You, you can stop with the cats." She said and finally took up the guitar. "This instrument has never been owned. It's absolutely fucking spectacular! God, this is beautiful!"

"It suits you." I said, grinning uncontrollably as she attached the guitar strap. She gave it a soft strum and began tuning it. "You're perfection. If I was an artist I'd paint you like this and it would be a masterpiece."

"Well you're not an artist." She said and looked up. Perfection. She was that. "So what are you expecting in return for this?"

"A song?" I said and was truly happy.

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My love lived in the Pinback district. Obviously. Being the artist that she was. That meant that there were a dozen venues within walking distance of her apartment. For music and poetry both. And because artists are a tight-knit community, and she was well respected in that community, she could safely have and carry a rare guitar.

I saw her play that guitar for the first time at the Windows of The Soul on Breaker Avenue. The instrument drew appreciative gasps when she took it out, but it was what she did with it that kept that room rapt and spellbound for an hour.

The clerk had been right. She looked stunning but her music seemed to come effortlessly. I'd never heard her so fluid and flawless. Her voice matched the rich, pure tones of the guitar. The songs felt like dreams that had opened up and let us into them, and this is how you live.

Make these moments. Find the pieces, bring them together, make something beautiful and, for a little while, you can be beautiful too.

.

"You are a mystery." She said that night as she lay atop me and became my whole world. "You're a mystery to yourself too though, so who can we turn to to help us puzzle this out?"

"Me mysterious?" I said and kissed her nose. "I don't see it. But if you can't solve the riddle of me, nobody can."

"You're a poem that I can't quite write out." She said and leaned her head against mine. "You're an island. I see it but can't reach it. Because you always come to me. Not just physically. You bring yourself to me and I'm not sure who you are when you're gone off elsewhere. You make maps out of my dreams but you have this curious nervousness. I want you to have your own dreams too. I know this world isn't a good place, but there are good places within it."

"Like here. Here is very good." I said and felt my soul quivering like the last leaf on a tree suddenly caught by the wind. "Love, trust me. You wouldn't like my island. It's a lonely and empty place."

"Then you should leave it. Come to shore. Be better. Be here. You deserve better." She said and I didn't believe it. Then or now.

I have more than I deserve and owe more than I can ever pay. Sins towards one can't be erased with kindness to another. The Dance has only one conclusion. My only hope is to give her what she deserves.

If I do that, I will die happy and let the devil have me.

[lazy-dog24601]

It doesn't fucking work, the VN plug-in for Homestuck^2: Beyond Canon doesn't work at all. All the little icons are still greyed out despite them being things that have been released. For the record. This is on chrome. The date is 9/15/2024. I've done what it's said at the bottom and it still doesn't work.

Here's hoping page 667 is a wet t-shirt contest. If this "Beyond Canon" team really is the shaft and sack they describe themselves to be then they'll start adding a bunch of on-screen graphic sexual content. It's literally the only way they could make up for this VN blunder.

Look, we're all adults here. This ain't a story about teenagers anymore, these are grown-ass adults that fuck, piss on each other, hold wet t-shirt contests, and get divorced.

Forget about Davekat or Teriska or June Egbert- where the FUCK is the Jade Harley golden shower? Freaking cowards. THIS is what it means to exist for the sake of existing. The horror of being a sequel? Of begin in a story that doesn't need to exist? Of being the sad continuation of a happily ever after? Of being non-canon? Of being a story that exists because your fans kept bugging you to write more of the story you ended?

It's all piss, baby. Calliope, the ugly green flesh skeleton lesboy, said that. Yeah, they call people baby. They know what the fuck is up. They've given Roxy a golden shower. You wanna know why? Well, first off, it's because they're two consenting legal adults. But the second and more important answer is that. Because that's how reality works, bitch. Yeah, I just called you a bitch. The person reading this.

That's what this all is. Homestuck 2. Beyond Canon. The Epilogues. This is the heavy shit of reality breaking through the constipated asshole that is Homestuck, the first. Hussie was one-upping God itself by taking the laxatives know as truth and shitting out the reality bomb known as "everything after homestuck." It was so fucking real and truthful that Hussie completely abandoned Homestuck^2, along with the first team of writers and artists and script writers and story boarders and producers and story consultants and assistant writers. What a bunch of pogchamps, my next shit is dedicated to you legends for creating such a massive piece of shit.

But, you might be wondering, what about Hussie's clown VN- Psycholonials? That came after Homestuck. And my answer is. I don't know, bitch. Oh yeah, that's still a thing. You being a bitch. It wasn't a thing that stopped being a thing. You're still a bitch.

Psycholonials is something I haven't read. And will probably never read. Because clowns are lame. Clowns are for people too scared and too horny to use blackface, although everyone knows Hussie doesn't have a sexual bone in her body, because why else did Hussie not draw John Egbert's soaking wet vagina during any point of her active involvement in the Homestuck franchise.

Hussie saw Joker, that conservative movie that made fun of disabled people, the one that was made by a billion-dollar company, and was like, oh shit I wanna do that. I don't even care if that doesn't line up properly on the timeline. Clowns are lame and I refuse to read her VN. It's not about truth or reality or piss, I just don't want to read Hussie's clown VN because I genuinely never want to give them the light of day. They've had their dream- I'll let them wake up and enjoy what they have left.

I don't care for Hussie. If that comes off as disrespectful, or immoral, or something along the lines of "that's not how you treat people, that's not how you treat people that write stories you don't like, you're being really mean" then fuck you I don't like Andrew Hussie. I also don't like Kinoko Nasu, so keep that in mind. I refuse to read F/GO or the Tsukihime remake because the art is really fucking bad in both and I hate the whole "secret organization" crap that's in F/GO that leaks in Tsukihime remake.

I hate secret government organizations. Stupid fucking blood libel anti-semitic New World Order Illuminati bullshit, the entire concept. Like, fuck you Kinoko Nasu for writing a story about a giant underground organization that fights aliens and magic monsters and keeps it hidden from the rest of the world, you're literally writing nazi fanfic. Fuck you Nasu, you anti-semitic piece of shit.

I also don't like that fucker who made the Nier games. Yoko Taro. I hate all the Nier games. I refuse to play his shitty, "insightful" and "deconstructive" games. They're all edgy garbage. Not my flavor at all.

I'm also not a big fan of that Uro-butcher guy. Gen Urobuchi. Fate/zero is alright but Madoka Magica is pure fucking garbage, based solely on what all the Madoka Magica fans say about the show. The only reason I don't despise him like the rest is that he worked on Thunderbolt Fantasy, which is peak from what I've heard. Genuine peak, unlike Madoka Magica or Nier.

TL:DR- Homestuck^2: Beyond Canon Vriska VN isn't working.

[zeroducks-2]

I keep encountering antis in the wild so far my favorite one has been the one who was frothing over Jaytim shippers. "Just because they're not technically brothers"!

Friend they're not technically nor non-technically brothers. They weren't raised together. They don't have a brother dynamic.

"It's different from DickBabs and TimSteph!" Not really! You're just cherrypicking!

90% of antis use anti rhetoric to justify why their ship is better/more valid than another, not because they really care about things they deem immoral or whatever, and I think a lot of Fandom Discourse tends to miss that by a long shot.

Like more often than not it's just bitches digging for reasons why their OTP is the only ship that can be shipped, therefore if you ship something else You're Wrong and the ship you ship shouldn't even exist. They use arguments on morality and such because they're hard to argue with - lots of folks don't know what to say when they're faced with "don't ship X and Y cause it's harmful and abusive!", "you're hurting victims of SA and grooming by shipping X and Y!" - and what happens is that they get scared out of the ships/topics they like and stop engaging actively with fanworks. Sometimes they rationally or subconsciously realize that it works, so they end up even adopting the same rhetoric as it's really fucking convenient: being on the moral high horse is delicious because people feel like it automatically puts them in the category of the good guys, therefore everyone else is a bad guy and they can harass them and send them death threats, even if it's just about shipping fictional characters.

I've seen this happen in basically every single fandom I've been in since I was 12 (and I am Not Young™), and I've seen the most unexpected people use anti rhetoric while not being antis themselves, or even labeling themselves as proshippers, but they would still use anti arguments to "legitimize" their ship and claim how and why it was better than others in the same fandom. Instead of just... saying that one ship in particular is not for them. Tbh lately I'm only trusting multi-shippers not to pull anti bullshit out of their ass, and this niche of the DC fandom is really a safe haven. But I digress.

One of the things that really pisses me off the most is the rampant homophobia. Going by generic anti logic Jaydick is incest, but Dickbabs isn't. Jaytim is incest, Timsteph isn't. Brudick, Brujay, Brutim are all incestuous ships - except Bruce and Barbara isn't. The het ship is fine would you look at that. Childhood friends to lovers is alright with pop culture as long as it's a man and a woman, because if it's two men they'll immediately scream incest and abuse (lumping them together too, while they're also not the same thing ffs). Because hiding behind anti mentality and purity culture there's the big bad monster of queerphobia, which shows its ugly face the moment you take a peek below the surface.

And since I feel like this isn't being said enough. Dick and Jason ARE NOT BROTHERS. Neither are Dick and Tim, or Dick and Damian, Jason and Damian, Jason and Tim, I could go on. These people are not related, not by blood or legally, not in any way that matters and would make it incest. They're a legacy of characters who wear the same cowl for narrative reasons, and THAT'S IT.

Calling Jaydick "incest" irks me to no freaking end because I LOVE incest ships, I am DOWN BAD for them, and this one ain't it chief. They're not related. They didn't grow up together. They don't share any brotherly bond except a vague "brothers in arms" kinda thing. People decided this at some point in order to have an argument why their plastic prepackaged het ships were better than the Bad Abusive (gay) ones, because they're fucking homophobes, and that is about it.

And that's what I really want to say to all the young, queer antis that parrot the terfs and homophobes that pushed them in that direction. They are taking away a space that is YOURS TOO. They fucking HATE YOU. They hate you because you're queer, gay, bi, pan, ace, trans, nonbinary, a woman, even just a teen. Purity culture and anti mentality is how they keep you under control, tied to their morality leash and making life miserable to every other queer person that refuses to conform and refuses to shut up and to stop enjoying fiction for the harmless, but also valuable thing that it is.

[starstruckxstray]

Just repeatedly smacking Kero upside the head with a rolled up newspaper. "WHY 💥 THE FUCK 💥 WOULD YOU 💥SAY YOU 💥AREN'T PRETTY?!!?!?! 💥💥💥YOU'RE FUCKING ADORABLE AND PEOPLE WANT YOU!!! GO OUT AND FIND THEM!!!! 💥💥💥"

"Ow! OW! HEY HEY!" The mottled mutt let out a sharp yelp with each punishing smack. She instinctively tried shielding herself, even snapping at the newspaper a couple times, before hunkering onto the floor.

In waiting for the onslaught to end did she truly absorb what the anon said. "But then wouldn't I be cornerin' 'em an' makin' 'em feel like they gotta say yes?!" The question came out as a harsh bark. It felt wrong, immoral even, to accept that anyone could genuinely want her. It felt dishonest, self indulgent, selfish, gross.

"I ain't like Angel Dust or sleek an' flawless like that! That's why!"

[ryuuseirune]

regarding the additional tags someone tacked onto that post addressing mlm shippers... shipping a feminine man with a masculine man is not "heteronormative". it is not a moral failing to like pretty, effeminate men, or to ship those men with other, more traditionally masculine men.

i think being online makes it easy to forget that masculinity in men is expected and in fact, normative. yes, mainstream media often emasculates gay men as a form of mockery. simultaneously, however, society decrees that we should behave and dress in a masculine manner, that we should deny and reject the parts of ourselves that deviate from the norm. some gay men lean into masculine behavior and dress as a means of reclaiming the masculinity that has been stripped from them, but others embrace femininity to resist gender roles and subvert societal expectations. i think what fandom fails to recognize is that both are revolutionary in their own ways. it is not a moral failing to relate to or admire feminine men... there is nothing wrong with delighting in the subby and twinkish. especially when it comes to shipping, which is all about what YOU as an individual like! of course it can be frustrating to see your favorite character woobified because they're involved in a specific ship, but you could just block/mute and move on instead of claiming that it's somehow heteronormative for feminine guys to get shagged. because it isn’t. like, who fucking cares if fujosexo719 likes her men hairless like a sphynx?? personally i prefer lithe, androgynous men, but you don't see me shitting on the strong, muscular and manly. sometimes a guy can be weak and waifish; sometimes he can be short and fat and hairy with that aphrodite swag; sometimes his hair is so long it gets into his buttcrack when he showers: but no matter how feminine (or masculine) he is, if he gets his back blown out by another man that shit ain't heteronormative!!! there is no world where having sex with someone of the same (binary) gender is hetero!! yes of course i want to see more diverse bodies and more diverse dynamics, but we aren't gonna get that from yucking each other’s yum. saying that all expressions of homosexual male femininity are immoral for upholding heteronormative gender roles is asinine and i hope one day fandom realizes that

[darkfictionjude]

not that it's immoral on his end but i ain't gonna be pogo sisters with that bully of flesh and blood 🤣

Yeah with some it’s probably that but I think (from the asks I get) the majority don’t really care that he slept with Orla that’s why I say that’s not the reason people choose Imre and Nia since many of my readers are pretty deviant anyway and I get worse nsfw crimes in my ask box than Lorcan fucking Orla 💀

En masse there’s no big disgust there for that

[jaytoons7]

I said I'd do it, So here's some info on the Toppat chef, Scottie Anderson (Contains a knife, Description of a toxic family, and a brief mention of transphobia):

Name: Scottie Anderson (Birth name unknown)

Gender: Nonbinary

Sexuality: Pansexual

Height: 5'9

Pronouns: They/Them

Age: 21

Abridged Backstory:

Scottie came from a wealthy family (With said wealth being gained through illegal/immoral ways) and since day 1, Scottie had the weight of expectations on their shoulders. Their family made it clear that whatever Scottie did was not good enough for the family name.

The straw that broke the camel's back was when Scottie came out as nonbinary and was then seen as a bigger disappointment. They got so sick of the constant pressure and blatant transphobia/deadnaming, That they decided "Y'know what, If I ain't good enough for this family, I won't be a part of it anymore!" and left at 18, Changing their first and last name in the process.

They did small jobs here and there to get by before being found by the Toppat Clan. Scottie started out as a regular recruit before becoming one of their chefs. They always had a passion for cooking after all. As a result of their upbringing, They aren't exactly the nicest person around... (I'm saying they're a bit of a bitch)

Scottie's main melee weapons are their set of butcher/kitchen knives. They know how to cut up several types of meat, So using them against an opponent is no problem.

Scottie's main ranged weapon is an old fashioned crank pepper grinder, Which was inspired by the pepper grinder weapon in Alice Madness Returns (On a side note, I used to watch my older brother play that game as a kid. Which, Given the fucked up content in it, Wasn't a wise idea). Scottie has a deadly aim, So nobody is safe from being pelted by burning hot pepper, Even from a distance.

[janumun]

Sukuna giving Vessel hook up advice.

Vessel is lonely, craving sentiment; to touch, worship and love, receiving and giving. The Vessel wants to know people, befriend new minds, see sights alike. But shit they're a shy, nervous lad; sometimes ashamed to indulge lustful fantasies. It eats their heart on the inside. A sort of sad, longing for connection and companionship. As humans, we build to communicate and establish ourselves, for better or worse.

Vessel and Sukuna share a single body, interlocking them deep physically and mentally whether they want it or not. When the Vessel is happy there is a small shift-a soft wash of joy in Sukuna's stomach. It's strange, not humanly understandable for a King of Curses, but he can be weirdly content with it. When Vessel is sad or upset, Sukuna temporarily shares that specific emotion or feeling. And as much as Sukuna adores his Vessel's struggle. That sweet, delicious despair that gives him a classic sadistic kick, that doesn't mean he wants a constant uncomfortable environment, especially if it comes at an inedible expense of his pleasure.

He's incredibly bored, but not so bored as to deny himself comfort within his own caged space. Not when Sukuna knows he can do something about it, despite if he doesn't actually want to, only for his own merit, if it works it works. Pathetically human as it is.

Besides, in a certain way, he's getting something out of it too. Seeing you, feeling you, his adorable vessel, his body and mind, losing themselves in sinful moments of pleasure.

What does a King do, if not indulge?

Sukuna takes what he wants, steals whatever catches his interest. But it isn't possible in his current state within you, and you aren't willing to immorally kill/destroy either, that's out of the question. But that hardly means Sukuna is any less a smooth talker, experience aplenty on melting people with a sinister rumble in their ears. He is a master at flirting, at leading unfortunate people and eventual worshippers into the palms of their god, helping you pick up a long-time friend of yours at a bar will be no different. All men are the same at their cores; greedy meatbags.

You want this friend of yours quite badly, don't you? That worthless fool? Hah! Don't be so predictable brat, stop the denial, I ain't fucking stupid.

You dream of them, their fingers, their tongue, their flesh. You want to be eaten, savored and picked apart; you want to be all the flavors the royals dine for. You know better than to hide from me, brat. I know all your filthy little secrets, I felt them, saw them as you ate yourself from the inside out. That's right, I saw you.

Be honest with yourself. Admit all your desires, go in for the kill then take the weak fool home for the awaited flourishing. I grow impatient, go brat, you waste precious time.

(I'm sorry, but I think Sukuna can be oddly poetic when he wants to be, more so when he acknowledges the benefits.

Maybe this is where his obsession roots growth. You dream, desire-you think about all these people, indulging in their lust and bursting at the seams when they hold you close. Yeah, Sukuna definitely enjoys it too, its sex, what's there not to love? Maybe convinced you to let him take a bite. That seductive, cruel wet mouth sucking-teasing at your entrance, touching and poking passionately as your "lover" gives an admittedly impressive show. He can feel them like you do, pleasure you enjoy to the fullest, everything you share increased tenfold via your unique connection. Because of your apparent sensitivity, he can’t do too much suppression for pride’s sake, but Sukuna isn't complaining-not about to ruin everything, you finally gave in. As insulting and crude as Sukuna is, you both know it just tightens you up further, liquid excitement Sukuna drinks like his favorite sake. Feeding off your pleasure, adrenaline, a lusty high.

And you do this, ascend to Heaven, to fill the dark loneliness that threatens to devour you faster than even Sukuna would. Pitiful, you're a slave nature. Maybe he starts to realize just how delicious it really was, how his precious Vessel moved and moaned. Your nervous nature, your virgin perspective on self-indulgent activities and your eagerness to praise and adore your lovers, that addiction to the limit breaks of physical prowess. How far you will push yourself in and outside of privacy, you have a strong wish to prove yourself capable of anything, to take everything you do.

Sukuna once encouraged your one-night stands,

now he begins utterly loathing his suggestion.

 Because people-these insignificant strangers-saw you, desired you. It pisses him off, his source of pleasure knew them in ways not only by sight, that you agreed to lay amongst them but didn't turn a glance toward who really mattered when he actually went out of his way to help you gather those weaklings; lied right beside them, kissed unworthy skin when Sukuna was better in every way man could never hope to become.

It angers him further that you dream of them just as often. You house a god, the all-powerful King of Curses, who deserves nothing less than worship, praise, devotion and pleasure of all sorts. And he sees you, an admittedly worthwhile fool-someone whom he knows craves to give all of that and more-looks at mere mortals. You choose pathetic meatbags over a god who can generously gift you all the pain and pleasure you could ever wish, far more than what some random man or woman could ever live long enough to bless you with.

Those fools, you dare think him lesser?

Sukuna never felt more insulted in his entire immortal existence.)

2/

No worries over the fun Ask, Nonny. Displeased Curse King over his Vessel’s choice of lovers is something I eat up delightedly. 😋 He’s going to be slipping in, disrupting his Vessel’s sexual activities with those insignificant insects, forcing them to realize their King is the one who could truly make their body sing.

[moonspower]

Vi is wild af, I love him! He just does what he wants and sometimes its the craziest shit no other person could ever dream, hes freespirited

that's kind of his thing. i think people confuse being a good person with never indulging in the weird and the excessive and strange and sometimes shocking, borderline immoral at times................ but vi loves all those things. hes a freak. hes an absolute fuckin freakshow and he loves that about himself!!

like yea he can be an art therapist and bring some positive energy to the world and help ppl............. he's cosmic royalty. but like he can also be a bit of an adventurous, im-gonna-do-whatever-the-fuck-i-want-i'll-kill-you-if-you-get-in-my-way type.

hes a go-getter! and he just does what he wants....

virote ain't tethered to the concept of shame and embarrassment babey, he dont got time for it. sad for others that worry bout how theyre perceived, but hes too busy painting his nails and watching masterchef australia.