#fuck it. phan discourse in 2024

[roseworth]

tbf to my knowledge they've never confirmed they are in a romantic relationship probably because of just how much weird rpf there already is of them when they weren't being open about it which must have been incredibly uncomfortable even if u were trying to not reveal aspects of your personal life or struggling w ur sexuality (i was guilty of it i was in the phan trenches in 2015 when i was 10)

youre right that they've never outright confirmed it however. to me it feels so weird that people are so insistent on saying that they may not be in a relationship because ?? they have consistently lived together for like 15 years and they designed & bought a house together. at the very least dan has said that they were together in 2009 so as much as id love to believe that they are in a batshit sitcom scenario of buying a house with your ex boyfriend. i dont think its much of a stretch to say that theyre together and the extent that people go to to say that the relationship isnt Confirmed is really confusing to me. historians will call them roommates

anyways. yeah i was in the trenches in 2015 too so i get it bc i definitely saw and sometimes participated in the invasive stuff so i completely understand the drawing back and saying that we shouldnt say anything until it was Confirmed, especially with dan talking in his coming out video about how much it stressed him out when people would speculate on his sexuality because he was not ready to deal with it. so i feel like theres a bit of overcorrection nowadays bc people are realizing how terrible it was in 2015 so its like ppl want to make up for that by never making any assumptions about them

but also ,,, i feel like today they are so much more comfortable with it and dont really have a problem with the "speculation" yk,, just because they've pretty much revealed it now. i still watch their videos (YES im cringe. i dont care. fuck you) and theres so clearly been a shift where they dont bother hiding it anymore and even though they havent sat down and explicitly said "we're in a relationship" they still are pretty much open about it and allude to the fact that theyre together without straight out saying it

anyways. all this to say that yeah they havent confirmed it but also they are in a relationship and i dont see a reason to dance around the subject as long as youre not being weird about it

[dolokhoded2]

not to participate in cursed Phan Discourse in 2024 but here's my take on the whole Are They Gay Did They Fuck thing: phil going out of his way to avoid the "my boyfriend (32M)" asks rlly just puts into perspective that we don't have the agency to choose any label for their relationship. yes they're spending their lives together they bought and designed a home together CLEARLY they've got something very queer going on with each other, and i'm sure that us casually calling them husbands/saying they're dating is whatever, they really don't care they've said it multiple times by now. but someone not wanting to force a label on them just because they're obviously not just pals and they share a life yadda yadda and people acting like it's the same thing as calling them Heterosexual Men is.,,. a little weird methinks !!!! cause at the end of the day they really might not be dating. they might not like to define their relationship like that. maybe they do and they just don't care to share it, it doesn't matter, the point is that the possibility of them not "dating" in a conventional way is not less queer. it doesn't mean their relationship is anything less than they've repeatedly said it is. "trying to deny that they're dating is borderline homophobic atp" why do you think a Strictly Defined Exclusive Conventional Romantic Relationship is the only way to have a queer relationship, don't shit on others for not wanting to enforce that on two people whose private lives are none of our business.