#frecklewish(tc) kin

[redux-iterum]

I'll start over lol, legacy naming can be fine if done well but i don't think it has. Hollytuft + Sibs appeared to us as adults so we don't get to know about them. Cinderheart was cute until we had the whole "shes actually cinderpelt lmao" moment. The two Mouses and Leafs just had no excuse to be there. And if I was Ivypool and my kid died I would NOT want some random cat immediately naming their daughter after her. Isn't that kind of traumatizing? I got rid of all legacy namings that occur -

in cats younger than Holly in my AVOS/TBC allegiances and in my rewriting exercise I'm making Sparkpaw just be really obsessed with being Firestar's kin so her eventual naming of Flamekit makes a bit more sense. At least I can excuse 4 Robinwings to the Erin's forgetting they all existing(not a valid excuse tho imo), having two Frecklewishes is just insane. Was literally nothing else an option? Frecklesong, Freckletuft, Frecklemint? I've also noticed stuff from the beginning like having a semi - prominent Ashfur in Into The Wild's ShadowClan then immediately having Ashkit/(fur) in Fire and Ice's ThunderClan. At the very least, literary-wise, it feels like too much repeating too quickly. I'm not against two Bobs existing at the same time but still…I've actually put down a good fic because they named literally everyone in TC after a dead cat and I got annoyed lol. Names were like, Ferndust Bluestorm Frostheart etc

TV Tropes has a trope relevant to this: One-Steve Limit. While it's very common for people to share names in the real world, in fiction it's avoided to make things easier on your readers/viewers and prevent repetitiveness. The point of not sharing names is for each character to stand out on their own; often when there are multiples of one name (for example, Heather in "Heathers"), there's a reason to it, usually to mock the hivemind-nature of the characters or establish a theme of putting people in boxes they can't escape from (such as in Steven Universe where every gem of one type shares the same name and remains stuck in one role for their entire existence).

In the case of Warriors, I feel that "rule" rings truest. To be entirely fair to the writers, they have hundreds of characters to name, most of them never even showing up in the books beyond being mentioned in the allegiances. A prefix or suffix is going to appear multiple times - that's just unavoidable, especially if you have rules in place for what names are allowed that limits your options. I can't blame them for that issue coming up a few times accidentally.

What I can blame them for is deliberately using names that have important characters attached to them barely a generation later. In a setting where you have to keep track of every name, even as a reader, it's going to cause nothing but trouble if Greystripe dies and in the next book there's a Greykit in the very same Clan. It creates a constant stream of Grey-, which can accidentally confuse readers, or at the very least trip them up for a few seconds - something you DO NOT want in a story, especially one aimed at kids, where things need to be clear and concise.

[everybody-loves-purdy]

If you were to guess right now with no information, what are your top contenders for the voice Moonpaw is hearing?

For me? It’s Sol, Sleekwhisker, or Curlfeather, with the former two being the most likely imo.

At the moment I’m definitely thinking Sol the most, given how popular he is and the lack of resolution on his character. Also how if it is him, there would be a whole “sun and moon” thing going on with the names.

I think Mapleshade perhaps as a close second just because she’s popular and still exists in the dark forest.

I think Curlfeather and Sleekwhisker are also great possibilities as well! Although I would like to hope Sleekwhisker is alive out there somewhere, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they killed her off randomly offscreen - would make for a surprising reveal though. Also I thought maybe Splashtail if he dies at the end of asc.

I think also maybe she could have something going on like Goosefeather where he just received prophecies really aggressively, if Moonpaw is a NightSun kit should would be distantly related to Goosefeather through Nightheart so maybe it’s something they might bring back and Goosefeather could appear to his distant kin and recount his experiences.

Two possibilities I’ve thought of and think they might do and probably shouldn’t is Scourge (he’s been gone too long imo, it would feel random), and have the voice actually be a non supernatural mental health issue (I say they shouldn’t do the latter just because I don’t trust them not to be horribly ableist about the whole thing)

Edit: Also I just thought there is a definite possibility the voice could be Frecklewish (TC) so the Erins can prove to the fans how evil they interpret her as to the fans

[goosefeathers-kinhelp]

Could I have a pendulum reading for Ashfur and Frecklewish(TC)?

<positive>It's amusing to see a Frecklewish. There are plenty of Mapleshades but a Frecklewish, that is interesting.</positive>

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Ashfur - I Don't Know to canon, I Don't Know to non-canon

Things feel really foggy here. I don't feel a pull in any direction, it's just... Ashfur. My only two cents is that I think you were like me and did not stay in Thunderclan, but I think you went to Riverclan (I did ask Jerry and he gave a soft yes). But this can go any way and in any direction, or in no direction at all.

Frecklewish - Soft Yes to canon, No Answer for non-canon

I was shoved into the river crossing scene. You didn't just watch it, did you? I'm also pulled to the theory that Frecklewish wanted to make sure the kits died and was sent to The Dark Forest upon her death.

That’s both of them! I hope this helps in any way. Remember, Jerry is just a guide. Do not take his answers to heart.

~Goosefeather

[warriors-pride]

There are a lot of characters in the series that have the same name. I’m going to list them all here and either specify if I default to a certain character (if they have more plot relevance) or to specify which version. Not all of the characters have been drawn/posted yet, this is just for reference

This does not include Stoneteller, as it can be specified if you want the TNP, OotS, or DotC ones by using the original names for the latter two.

Below the cut because it’s very long

Applefur - Default to Applefur (OotS), please specify if you want Applefur (TF)

Ashfur - Default to Ashfur (TC), please specify if you want Ashfur (ShC)

Bee - Please specify if you want the rogue or Cat of the Park Bee

Beechfur - Default to Beechfur (RC), please specify if you want Beechfur (TC)

Birchstar - Please specify whether you want the RiverClan, SkyClan, or WindClan Birchstar

Branch - Please specify whether you want Dawn of the Clans or Hawkwing’s Journey Branch

Cloudberry - Default to Cloudberry (TC), please specify if you want Cloudberry (RC)

Coal - Please specify whether you want the SkyClan Super Editions or The New Prophecy Coal

Darkstar - Please specify whether you want the RiverClan leader from Code of the Clans, the RiverClan leader from Mapleshade’s Vengeance, or the SkyClan leader Darkstar

Dovestar - Please specify whether you want the RiverClan or WindClan Dovestar

Eeltail - Please specify whether you want the Code of the Clans or Mapleshade’s Vengeance Eeltail

Emberdawn - Default to Emberdawn (LH), please specify if you want Emberdawn (TBC)

Emberkit - Please specify whether you want the Dawn of the Clans or Cloudstar’s Journey Emberkit

Flower - Please specify if you want the kittypet, loner, or rogue Flower

Frecklewish - Please specify if you want the SkyClan or ThunderClan Frecklewish

Fritz - Please specify if you want the loner or kittypet Fritz

Gorseclaw - Default to Gorseclaw (TC), please specify if you want Gorseclaw (RC) or Gorseclaw (WC)

Gorsetail - Default to Gorsetail (Po3), please specify if you want Gorsetail (TNP)

Hareflight - Please specify if you want the Firestar’s Quest or Tallstar’s Revenge Hareflight

Hawk - Please specify if you want the Sister or rogue Hawk

Heronwing - Please specify if you want the RiverClan or ThunderClan Heronwing

Ivytail - Default to Ivytail (ShC), please specify if you want Ivytail (RC)

Larchkit - Please specify if you want Mapleshade’s son or Ferncloud’s daughter Larchkit

Larksong - Default to Larksong (AVoS), please specify if you want Larksong (BP)

Larkwing - Default to warrior Larkwing, please specify if you want medicine cat Larkwing

Leaf - Please specify if you want the Dawn of the Clans or Squirrelflight’s Hope Leaf

Lily - Please specify if you want the kittypet or WarriorClan Lily

Max - Please specify if you want the kittypet or Kin Max

Milkfur - Please specify if you want the WindClan deputy, RiverClan warrior, or RiverClan medicine cat Milkfur

Minnowkit - Please specify if you want the Code of the Clans or Crookedstar’s Promise Minnowkit

Mintfur - Default to Mintfur (SkC), please specify if you want Mintfur (RC)

Minty - Please specify if you want the kittypet or rogue Minty

Mist - Default to Mist (RH), please specify if you want Mist (CP)

Mistlekit - Default to Mistlekit (TC), please specify if you want Mistlekit (SkC)

Mitzi - Please specify if you want the kittypet or loner Mitzi

Molewhisker - Default to Molewhisker (TC), please specify if you want Molewhisker (RC)

Mossheart - Please specify if you want the ShadowClan or ThunderClan Mossheart

Mudclaw - Default to Mudclaw (WC), please specify if you want Mudclaw (ShC)

Nettle - Please specify if you want the Kin or early SkyClan Nettle

Night - Please specify if you want the early RiverClan or rogue Night

Nightheart - Default to Nightheart (TC), please specify if you want Nightheart (Ro)

Nightstar - Please specify if you want the ShadowClan or RiverClan Nightstar

Nutmeg - Default to Nutmeg (TPB), please specify if you want the SkyClan’s Destiny, Tallstar’s Revenge, or Onestar’s Confession Nutmeg

Oatwhisker - Please specify if you want the ThunderClan or WindClan Oatwhisker

Owlstar - Default to Owlstar (SotC; aka Owl Eyes), please specify if you want Owlstar (CotC)

Patch - Please specify if you want the Tigerstar and Sasha or Ravenpaw’s Farewell Patch

Petal - Please specify if you want the Dawn of the Clans or Sister Petal

Pikepaw - Please specify if you want Mistystar’s son or Battles of the Clans Pikepaw

Pouncetail - Please specify if you want the RiverClan or ShadowClan Pouncetail

Pricklekit - Please specify if you want the RiverClan or WindClan Pricklekit

Quailfeather - Please specify if you want the medicine cat or warrior Quailfeather

Rabbitleap - Default to Rabbitleap (SkC), please specify if you want Rabbitleap (TC)

Rain - Default to Rain (AVoS), please specify if you want Rain (DotC)

Rainfur - Default to Rainfur (SkC), please specify if you want Rainfur (TC)

Reedshine - Default to Reedshine (MV), please specify if you want Reedshine (CotC)

Reena - Please specify if you want the kittypet or rogue Reena

Robinwing - You must specify if you want the ThunderClan, WindClan, RiverClan, or SkyClan Robinwing

Rose - Please specify if you want the Firestar’s Quest or Tigerheart’s Shadow Rose

Rowanstar - Default to Rowanclaw, please specify if you want Rowanstar (SkC)

Rushtail - Please specify if you want the RiverClan or WindClan Rushtail

Seedpelt - Please specify if you want the deputy, warrior, or elder Seedpelt

Shadepelt - Default to Shadepelt (TPB), please specify if you want Shadepelt (AVoS)

Shimmerpelt - Please specify if you want the Crookedstar’s Promise or A Vision of Shadows Shimmerpelt

Silverpaw - Please specify if you want the Battles of the Clans or The Prophecies Begin Silverpaw

Sloefur - Please specify if you want the RiverClan or ShadowClan Sloefur

Snail - Please specify if you want the ex-Sister or rogue Snail

Snaketail - Default to Snaketail (Po3), please specify if you want Snaketail (FQ)

Snaketooth - Default to Snaketooth (ShC), please specify if you want Snaketooth (RC)

Sparrow - Please specify if you want the rogue, Sister, or Cat of the Park Sparrow

Sparrowfeather - Default to Sparrowfeather (DF), please specify if you want Sparrowfeather (StC)

Spider - Please specify if you want the loner or ex-Sister Spider

Squirrel - Please specify if you want the Sister or Cat of the Park Squirrel

Stagleap - Default to Stagleap (WC), please specify if you want Stagleap (TC)

Stoatfur - Please specify if you want the ShadowClan or SkyClan Stoatfur

Stone - Please specify if you want the Dawn of the Clans, Hawkwing’s Journey, or Squirrelflight’s Hope Stone

Stone Song - Default to Stone Song (Po3), please specify if you wnat Stone Song (DotC)

Swallowtail - Please specify if you want the RiverClan or WindClan Swallowtail

Thistle - Please specify if you want the rogue or early ThunderClan Thistle

Thistlepaw - Please specify if you want the Code of the Clans or The New Prophecy Thistlepaw

Thrushpelt - Default to Thrushpelt (TC), please specify if you want Thrushpelt (WC)

Tigerstar - You must specify if you want Tigerclawstar or Tigerheartstar

Velvet - Default to Velvet (AVoS), please specify if you want Velvet (SD)

Whitetail - Default to Whitetail (WC), please specify if you want Whitetail (TUG)

Wrenflight - Please specify if you want the WindClan or SkyClan Wrenflight

[warriors-pride]

Figure I should probably make a list of the canon disabled characters (note that these are explicitly canon, not just implied. I'm also not including most characters who died from what are implied to be tumors, as it was not as specific)

Halftail (amputee)

One-eye (visually impaired and hard of hearing)

Ravenpaw (anxiety/trauma, cancer)

Stumpytail (short tail)

Runningnose (unspecified chronic illness)

Crookedstar (crooked jaw, probably trauma)

Deadfoot (twisted paw/mobility impairment)

Nightstar (asthmatic)

Leopardstar (diabetic)

Cinderpelt (traumatic injury/mobility impairment)

Heavystep (kidney disease)

Graypool (dementia)

Bluestar (depression/trauma, dementia)

Brightheart (visually impaired/traumatic injury, trauma, most likely hard of hearing/chronic pain as well)

Snowkit (deaf)

Featherkit (Dappletail's son) (deaf)

Barley (trauma) (Violet/BloodClan)

Scourge (trauma) (Tigerstar I)

Longtail (traumatic injury/blind)

Berrynose (amputee)

Jayfeather (blind)

Millie (hard of hearing)

Rock (blind, alopecia)

Whitewater (visually impaired)

Jingo (amputee)

Jet (trauma) (Pepper's death)

Pounce (visually impaired/lazy eye)

Goosefeather (dementia, possible brain trauma/disease)

Tawnyspots (cancer)

Domino (crooked jaw)

Percy (visually impaired, trauma)

Shrewtooth (anxiety/trauma)

Fallowfern (deaf)

Palebird (postpartum depression)

Lilywhisker (traumatic injury/mobility impairment)

Frecklewish (TC) (traumatic injury/blind)

Fury (visually impaired)

Oddfoot (mobility impairment)

Kinktail (traumatic injury)

Briarlight (traumatic injury/paralyzed)

Wildfur (traumatic injury/paralyzed)

Dovewing (trauma) (Rippletail and Swoop's deaths)

Ivypool (trauma) (killing Antpelt, the Dark Forest in general)

Whiskernose (traumatic injuries)

Misty Water (visually impaired)

Turtle Tail (short tail)

Jagged Peak (traumatic injury/mobility impairment)

Gray Wing (asthmatic)

One Eye (visually impaired)

Pink Eyes (visually impaired, albinism)

Fern Leaf (traumatic injuries/amputee, trauma)

Frog (spinal injury/paralysis)

Tiny Branch (traumatic injury/mobility impairment)

Moth Flight (ADHD)

Jasper (amputee)

Strikestone (hard of hearing)

Violetshine (trauma) (The Kin)

Rain (AVoS) (traumatic injury/visually impaired)

Finleap (amputee)

Fierce (short leg)

Boots (visually impaired)

Shadowsight (epileptic, trauma, traumatic injuries/possibly hard of hearing)

Frostpaw (trauma)

Snowbird (traumatic injury/limp)

Stonepelt (traumatic injury)

Shellheart (cancer, chronic pain)

Pebblefur (cancer)

Petalfall (epilepsy, anodontia)

Purdy (heart failure)

Daffodil (chronic illness/mobility impairment)

Pretty sure this is everyone up to this point, but please correct me if I'm wrong

Happy Disability awareness month!

I'm gonna make some special pride icon sets with the canonically disabled characters of the series

I'll also be open to disability/neurodivergencies headcanons from you guys!