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I finally had a time to look it up (Marat praising SJ). The source is:
Journal de la République française, no. 62 (December 1, 1792), p. 6. It says:
Le seul orateur encore qui m'a fait quelque plaisir à la tribune, c'est Saint-Just. Son discours sur les subsistances annonce du style; de la dialectique et des vues. Lors qu'il sera muri par la réflexion, et qu'il renoncera au clinquant, il sera un homme; il est penseur. Il a fort bien prouvé, mais longue-ment, que nous sommes loin d’êtres libres, que la source des maux qui nous travaillent est dans notre égoisme, et nos vices; et que si nous n 'y prenons garde, la liberté n 'aura été pour nous qu 'un songe douloureux que terminera un affreux réveil.
ash quick was marat the one who had insane gay tension with robespierre or am i mixing him up with st just
oh hell no that was saint just
robespierre was lowkey terrified of marat
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Pardon the question, but could you recommend some good books I could read to learn more about Saint-Just (and other pillars of the Revolution)? Of course you don't have to answer, but in any case, thank you 💕
Obviously, I'd like to help best i can fam!
If you wish to learn more about SJ, I can recommend Vinot's bio - it's a good starter, a relativly short, but solid book that gives quiye a nice insight into his life and ideas. Personally, I read it along with Jorg Monar's biography, which is, to put it in the right words, a large boi. About 900 pages, if I recall correctly. It's good if you wish to learn about a specific chapter of SJ's life and search for details, but it's a heavy reading to read as whole (not that i incourage giving ut a try - it's a valid book and probably the best one on SJ? I think). Then again, we have Saint-Just, colleague of Robespierre, but I never found it so I cannot speak of it really; perhaps someone here has an opiniom to share, so I will mention jt anyway.
Besides bios, we have his own works (or just scraps of it in some cases), for example his fragments of institutions républicaines, or l'esprit de la revolution, and, as always, the speeches. Primary sources are best to read when you already have some context on the person ;)
I see that SJ suited your liking specifically, but if you look for a book about other pillars if the revolution without a real preference for one person then honey I do have a perfect book for you - Thompson's Leaders of the French Revolution. This book is, I think, excellent if you wish to get to know some frev figures better, but have no one in particular on your mind. It provides a solid and short biographical note on many important revolutionaries, so even if you like someone but are too lazy to pick up a 500 page bio, you have a really good summary here.
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Bidvest Wits vs Kaiser Chiefs
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Bidvest Wits vs Kaiser Chiefs
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The biggest match of the past week saw South African league leaders Bidvest Wits face Kaizer Chiefs. The game saw two astute tactical managers do battle. Although coming from a loss to Mamelodi Sundowns, Chiefs looked to carry on their rise under German Ernst Middendorp. Meanwhile, four-time PSL winning Coach Gavin Hunt was looking to entrench his lead at the top of the table with his Wits side.
This analysis will look at the key moments, interesting tactical duels and statistics that secured this game as a tactical managerial master class.
Line-ups
Home team Bidvest Wits lined up in the 4-4-2 that manager Gavin Hunt prefers, especially in high profile games. Hunt opted for the hardworking ‘double six’ combination of Thabang Monare and Cole Alexander. The pair’s hardworking qualities were a key part of Wit’s strategy to nullify Kaizer Chiefs’ central combination play, as we’ll show later.
Thulani Hlatshwayo played as the touchline-shy full-back with Sifiso Hlanti on the other side. Elias Pelembe and Deon Hotto flanked Cole Alexander and Thabang Monare, while Terrence Dzvukamanja and Mxolisi Macuphu played up front.
Kaizer Chiefs’ line up was a 3-5-2, with Kgotso Moleko and Siphosakhe Ntiya-Ntiya on either flank of the five-man midfield and George Maluleka playing deep. The defence consisted of Daniel Cardoso, Mario Booysens and Teenage Hadebe. Lebogang Manyama played in the advanced central playmaker position alongside Hendrick Ekstein and behind Colombian Leonardo Castro and Khama Billiat.
Poor build-up and wide pressing triggers
Bidvest Wits adopted a clear 4-3-3 formation inside the Chiefs’ half. This was done to match the Chiefs back three and discourage them playing out from the build-up phase. As such Cardoso and Hadebe, not the most ball comfortable centre-backs, were tasked with playing out in the Salida Lavolpiana style.
Wit’s pacey front three easily dealt with the languid build-up, quickly pressing the centre-backs. George Maluleka was the only deep passing option, and he was easily marked by Wits’ shadow marking. All this and Chiefs’ obvious discomfort in using Vries in goal as a source of numerical superiority meant that their build-ups fell flat.
Chiefs goalkeeper Virgil Vries is unable to play the ball as the centre-backs are pressed.
When Chiefs did manage to move the ball from the build-up phase to the possession phase they faced tremendous pressure. Moleko was caught on numerous occasions by a Wits triple-press which seemed to have adopted the movement of the ball from central defence to the wide midfield areas as a pressing trigger.
Moleko’s poor body positioning on the ball meant that he was often caught unaware. Wits used a three-man press in that wide area consisting of Hlanti, Domingues and Macuphu, with Monare and Alexander closing down central passing lanes.
Wits’ triple press, a clear indication of shutting down Chiefs’ wing play.
Hlanti was the first player to press, stopping the progression and limiting the time and space that Moleko had on the ball. Domingues pressed from the wide midfield position. Along with the double pivot, he ensured the cutting out of the central passing lanes, and aggressive pressing from the centre. This left Moleko with a predicament, as he was marked by the touchline and also pressed by the forwards from behind.
Wits seemed quite content to play on the transition. Their choice of player spoke of graft and speed. Against a Kaizer Chiefs team cautious to play out from the back, their only shot on goal in the entire match came from a transition. The shot’s timing was in line with the stat that Wits score most of their goals in the middle third of the first half.
Wits’ three man press pounced on an isolated Castro who was dispossessed by Domingues. Monare released a quick ball to the fleet-footed Dzvukamanja. After some quick footwork the latter shot from range, but his effort was comfortably saved.
Ineffective positioning from Ntiya-Ntiya means Castro is easily triple-pressed. He faces a narrowing passing angle and the attention of three Wits players. He loses the ball as a result.
Ineffective positioning means Chiefs can’t gegenpress. Moleko is caught on the wrong side of Dzvukamanja who is in tons of space. His long range shot is however comfortably saved.
Ineffective positioning means Chiefs can’t gegenpress. Moleko is caught on the wrong side of Dzvukamanja who is in tons of space. His long range shot is however comfortably saved.
Ntiya-Ntiya and the battle for the perfect transition
Both teams’ preference for the transition moment was clear. The few times Wits tried playing from the back they arranged in a 3-4-3 formation. Captain Hlatshwayo here showed his preference to fall into the right centre-back position. However Wits’ lack of staggered positioning, which would have allowed for the necessary angles for ball possession, meant that their play was ineffective.
Their positions were too flat and they lacked the width and depth to allow stable possession. This allowed the teams to cancel each other out, especially in midfield. The 48 to 52% ball possession stat in favour of Chiefs underlines the fact that no team truly dominated the match.
Sifiso Hlanti was a case in point of Wits’ inclination to sit and counter. Often a marauding left-back, Hlanti played in a conservative wide position as the first point of contact for the Wits press in the wide areas.
The first goal of the match came from excellent work from full-back turned wide midfielder Ntiya-Ntiya. His quality was exemplary throughout the match, with Chiefs’ most dangerous moves coming from the 22-year-old. Chiefs have a gem in the youngster, who played quality low crosses that disturbed an experienced Wits backline as we will see below.
Hlatshwayo’s preference to remain close to his two centre-backs meant that Ntiya-Ntiya was afforded plenty of space on the left side. This could have been done for two reasons. Firstly Billiat is adept at one-on-ones, and Wits opted not to isolate Hlatshwayo in the wide areas in order to consolidate their defence in the centre. Wits had also deployed a tight ball-oriented shift which relied on compactness to prevent Chiefs’ dangerous combinations.
Ntiya-Ntiya was often afforded space on the left due to Hlatshwayo playing narrowly. Manyama’s pass finds him in acres of space here.
This compactness made Wits’ three-man press effective. It is this compactness however that also meant a swift ball to the wide area found Ntiya-Ntiya in tons of space. From this space Ntiya-Ntiya played another one of his delightful low crosses for Castro to finish.
An ineffective clearance from Hlanti allowed right wing-back Moleko the chance to play the ball to Maluleka. His swift pass to Manyama allowed the latter to play a redirected ball to Ntiya-Ntiya on the left overlap. The resulting low cross was built from pressure, speed and accuracy. This was a typical transition goal from Chiefs, as we can see below.
Ntiya-Ntiya in space releases a quality driven cross for Castro to run onto at the near post.
Castro scores a low finish in between the legs of oncoming keeper Darren Keet.
Chiefs’ consolidation and Wits’ tactical change.
Wits had shown the intention to change approach by taking off Macuphu for the intelligent-moving Lehlohonolo Majoro at half time. However the Chiefs goal in the 58th minute impressed the need for further changes. In came Vuyo Mere for Dzvukamanja in the 64th minute and Deon Hotto for Gift Motupa 10 minutes later. The change in player profile meant that Wits abandoned playing on the counter for more creative options.
For example Majoro enjoys running into the box from angles that allow him to both protect the ball and get angled shots at goal. His technique means that he can place the ball with relative ease. He is however not your typical pressing forward.
Gift Motupa was brought on as a combination striker to trouble the three-man Chiefs defence. His performance was enabled by a now advancing Alexander and Monare, players with good technical ability. The experienced Mere was also brought on to provide defensive cover on the right side that Chiefs had been exploiting and to give options in attack.
Whilst positive, the changes also opened up the game. Due to the advanced positions of the ‘double six’ Chiefs, who had grown in confidence, were allowed central space behind the Wits midfield. The advancing full-backs were ineffective, and were countered effectively. This allowed Chiefs, a traditionally fast combination and transition team, the space required to score the second goal.
The space afforded to Chiefs was a natural consequence of pushing more bodies forward. The central spaces have always been important for them in combinations. Wits’ advancing midfield afforded them such space.
Moving again from the transition, in which the Wits’ attack broke down in the final third, Manyama released Bernard Parker, who had come on for Billiat. With Wits’ double six caught out of position, Parker was able to find space. He combined with Ekstein after dancing past a poorly organised defence. Ekstein was then on hand to finish a beautiful team combination goal assisted by substitute Parker.
Wits had gone on to resemble a 3-4-3 with the introduction of Mere and after freeing up Hlanti on the left as a wide midfielder. Their high press while trying to equalise with the two central midfielders looking recycle possession meant that they lacked the stability they had enjoyed in the first half. The need for a more expansive game to create opportunities opened up Wits defensively and the three centre-backs were exposed.
Chiefs is in acres of space. Wits’ high midfield has been bypassed and its’ defense is left exposed.
Ineffective covering from the Wits defender means Ekstein can run into space. He then scores with an easy tap in.
Conclusion
This game will be remembered as a tactical masterclass from two managers who share relatively similar ideas. It could probably also mark the day Chiefs truly rose from the ashes, bringing pride back to the Johannesburg team’s many supporters.
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