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Listen, I don't wanna be that person.
But...
The new versions of The Epic Saga? The re-release?
I hated it.
#the epic saga#epic the musical#epic the troy saga#jorge rivera herrans#just a man#forgive me mr Jalapeño#the cyclops saga
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Sjsjsj here it is :')
Forgive me for I have sinned.
poseidon finna use "there are other ways of persuasion" on Odysseus lmfao 😭😭
#epic the musical#epic#the odyssey#epic poseidon#odysseus epic#poseidon#king of ithaca#odysseus#fanfiction#fanfic#this is so bad#my first contribution to this fandom and it's this#read at your own risk#mr jalapeño forgive me pls
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DUUUUDE you're into Epic too ??? Whaaatt ?? That makes me so so happy ! It's always fun to discover new fandoms I share with ppl I know from other places. Suuuper hyped for Feb 14th !
Hope you're doing well, take care :D
THIS IS THE PRICE!! WE PAY TO LIVE!! THE WORLD DOES NOT!! TEND TO FORGIVE!!
I found it a couple years ago and followed along casually, but since none of the sagas were out yet and I didn't follow mr jalapeño I kinda forgot about it. and then a while later I rediscovered it (not sure how) (pre ocean saga) and was like yo! this is actually even better than I remember! but I, in typical me fashion, forgot about it again
until!!! ocean saga!! and I realized oh SHIT i'm going to think about this forever actually. and now my heart is going to crawl out of my chest on feb 14. hope you're also doing well <333
(oh also! someone else on the acod discord is also an epic fan hang on let me check--drakon!! trifecta!!)
#epic the musical#nandarine#i'm particularly excited for done for and wouldn't you like for the circe part#but aside from that I've had dangerous and god games in my head for so long i'm so excited for when we get to those#oh also. haven't been active on the server in a while (school) but i see your art from time and time and CHEF'S KISS you're so skilled#seriously nanda its incredibly#what would we do without you
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ok, so for starters my musical education just goes so far as playing simple songs on the violin which I can't tune without a professional ear nearby, my even meager knowledge of classic Greek mythology only extends to the basics of the basics and my writing reads like a middle schooler who has yet learned how to properly write a thesis in an essay. But what do I have is a lifetime of listening exclusively to Japanese OST and watching RPG game plays, so with that in mind I can confidently say my favorite song of the entire Epic musical is Just a Man.
I looked for the musical for that song alone - I devoured posts and what I could understand of Greek mythology for just a song that lasts 148 seconds. Never mind the song is about the protagonist throwing a heavily implied newborn from a wall as his widowed mother watches as she is being taken as a slave to a foreign land, far away from her beloved husband's resting place.
For the first 78 seconds of the song it's a sweet ballad. Odysseus sings about how he loves dearly his wife and son he left in Ithaca, lulling Astyanax as he reminds of Telemachus.
A couple of seconds of silence. Not much. Odysseus sings the chorus as the instrumental picks up.
But when does the comet become a meteor)
when does a candle become a blaze?
When does a man become a monster?
When does a ripple become a tidal wave?
When does the reason become the blame?
When does a man become a monster?
Forgetting for a second our main character had just told us he plans to throw an infant from a wall that reminds of his own infant son Telemachus (I'll come back to that later, don't fret yet!). Pay attention to the instrumental.
A beat of music. Silence. A beat of music. As the lines progress Mr. Jalapeño adds more instruments and the silences get shorter and shorter.
Now here it's where my background as a geek nerd of the 2000's shine. As I said, I don't know much about musical theory so forgive for any musician reading this post. The instrumental builds up momentum very similar as how you build momentum for a battle, exploding once the battle is in full swing and you desperately try to save your character from the boss.
...but if you pay attention, it sounds hesitating - as if the music has not made its mind yet whether it wants to go back to being a ballad/lullaby.
But the Odyssey is one of the pillars of our literature - one of the pinnacles of what countless societies have founded their empires on for thousands of years; the conclusion has been foretold countless times before. Astyanax dies.
Now that it's compelling in its own right. But here are the things that blew my mind.
First, as the instrumental hesitates becoming a battle theme it re-introduces melodies and motifs from the ballad part (don't ask me to identify it, it's just vibes as my musical education is pretty mediocre in any standard you measure it with). You can take this on its own as how even the most innocent parts of ourselves get tainted by war and hatred, how it does not care for neither sinners nor innocents - we are hearing a murderer singing about his reasoning in killing an infant, an innocent in whatever way you define it.
Then as soon as Odysseus finishes singing the chorus, a choire sings it again in the background as Odysseus sings Forgive me over and over again through the high of the instrumental. Epic is a musical sang mostly in Odysseus POV, he tells the truth and paints the scenarios he encourts through the entire album. With that in mind - wouldn't the hesitation from before as he sang the chorus come from him? He sings his thoughts as his resolve hardens and he makes the choice of killing Astyanax.
The choire and instrumental are his resolve, willing to harden his heart and commit the crime - so the instrumental becomes a battle theme as this is mostly HIS story.
But he knows this is wrong, that there is no forgiveness to be found after he commits the crime, so instead of exploding at the end the instrumental solemnly calms as Odysseus sings I'm just a man.
Odysseus slays his enemy but he was no monster to slay - the monster was him all along, willing to do anything in order to return to his own home.
As you can see, I started reading Achilles in Vietnam: Combat Trauma and the Undoing of Character in my research.
Anyhow, donate esims: https://gazaesims.com/
#war makes us monsters#epic the musical#just a man#mr. jalapeño when I catch you#maybe this is obvious to everyone else but me#but i'm working in developing my confidence#and that my thoughs and analysis are worth of space#and what better way to practice than publishing it in the place none will bat an eye#from the river to the sea
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01: Do you have a good relationship with your parents?
Ya more or less. Has its off days. Not perfect.
02: Who did you last say “I love you” to?
My mom
03: Do you regret anything?
Ya a few things
04: Are you insecure?
Hhhhhhhh ya
05: What is your relationship status?
Single. Not looking really.
06: How do you want to die?
Satisfied
07: What did you last eat?
Bacon Crunchwrap from tacobell
08: Played any sports?
Some horseback riding, tiny bit of basketball in elementary. Dance.
09: Do you bite your nails?
…yes
10: When was your last physical fight?
Fourth grade in the girls bathroom. I won.
11: Do you like someone?
Not right now
12: Have you ever stayed up 48 hours?
When I was a kid yes.
13: Do you hate anyone at the moment?
Yes. Not gunna get into it.
14: Do you miss someone?
Ya. A few people like friends and a few fam members.
15: Have any pets?
Yep got a ten year old cat: Mr. C
A ball python: Takoda
16: How exactly are you feeling at the moment?
Tired. Sluggish. Ready to go home.
17: Ever made out in the bathroom?
Nope
18: Are you scared of spiders?
Not really. Just icked by them.
19: Would you go back in time if you were given the chance?
Yes.
20: Where was the last place you snogged someone?
Never
21: What are your plans for this weekend?
Hang out with fam. Father’s Day weekend and bro is visiting before he goes for further training.
22: Do you want to have kids? How many?
Nope.
23: Do you have piercings? How many?
Nope.
24: What is/are/were your best subject(s)?
Art. Psychology. Animal Behavior Science. Sci-fi fantasy lit.
25: Do you miss anyone from your past?
Ya a few people
26: What are you craving right now?
Jalapeño poppers. Cheesecake. Brownies.
27: Have you ever broken someone’s heart?
Ya I think so.
28: Have you ever been cheated on?
No.
29: Have you made a boyfriend/girlfriend cry?
Yes.
30: What’s irritating you right now?
People who gaslight other people. Especially me.
31: Does somebody love you?
Of course. I know I’m loved.
32: What is your favourite color?
Blue
33: Do you have trust issues?
Yes.
34: Who/what was your last dream about?
Can’t remember.
35: Who was the last person you cried in front of?
I think my family when we were watching a movie.
36: Do you give out second chances too easily?
Yes sometimes. Depending upon the context. I believe people do deserve second chances.
37: Is it easier to forgive or forget?
I think it’s easier to forgive.
38: Is this year the best year of your life?
Nope.
39: How old were you when you had your first kiss?
…no comment
40: Have you ever walked outside completely naked?
No. Thankfully.
51: Favourite food?
Sushi
52: Do you believe everything happens for a reason?
Yes.
53: What is the last thing you did before you went to bed last night?
Besides washing my face and brushing my teeth? I was doodling Optimus prime as a human.
54: Is cheating ever okay?
Mmm it depends. In the context of relationships it varies.
55: Are you mean?
I can be if pushed. But sometimes if pushed too much I tend to bite hard.
56: How many people have you fist fought?
2.5, fourth grade I had some tiffs. The first was my big major fight. The rest being a confrontation and a shove or two. The last was me defending myself from a guy who slapped my ass in high school and I quickly grabbed his wrist and pinned him to a wall. So the .5 was hardly a fight but more of me giving the “you fucked around and found out.”
57: Do you believe in true love?
Ya sorta.
58: Favourite weather?
Sunny with partial clouds.
59: Do you like the snow?
it’s pretty but no
60: Do you wanna get married?
Ya some day.
61: Is it cute when a boy/girl calls you baby?
Mmmm no not really
62: What makes you happy?
Seeing I can be helpful or able to make someone else happy. Art. Movies or games I’m into. Sights. Animals. Swimming.
63: Would you change your name?
Long time ago yes but now meh not really.
64: Would it be hard to kiss the last person you kissed?
God not this question again.
65: Your best friend of the opposite sex likes you, what do you do?
It’s happened. I politely and gently turned them down and just want to be friends. I’m just not in that headspace for relationships.
66: Do you have a friend of the opposite sex who you can act your complete self around?
Mmmm ya
67: Who was the last person of the opposite sex you talked to?
My step dad. He sent me an Instagram link
68: Who’s the last person you had a deep conversation with?
I would say @takamatsu-kun I think. We have a looooot of convos so it feels right to say matsu. We get into some deep convos on occasion lmao
69: Do you believe in soulmates?
Mmmmm yes and no. Sorta.
70: Is there anyone you would die for?
Ya my fam or friends but I wouldn’t like seek it out or really count on a situation happening. Just that I’d defend and help best that I can.
70 horrible questions ... Fuck it
01: Do you have a good relationship with your parents? 02: Who did you last say “I love you” to? 03: Do you regret anything? 04: Are you insecure? 05: What is your relationship status? 06: How do you want to die? 07: What did you last eat? 08: Played any sports? 09: Do you bite your nails? 10: When was your last physical fight? 11: Do you like someone? 12: Have you ever stayed up 48 hours? 13: Do you hate anyone at the moment? 14: Do you miss someone? 15: Have any pets? 16: How exactly are you feeling at the moment? 17: Ever made out in the bathroom? 18: Are you scared of spiders? 19: Would you go back in time if you were given the chance? 20: Where was the last place you snogged someone? 21: What are your plans for this weekend? 22: Do you want to have kids? How many? 23: Do you have piercings? How many? 24: What is/are/were your best subject(s)? 25: Do you miss anyone from your past? 26: What are you craving right now? 27: Have you ever broken someone’s heart? 28: Have you ever been cheated on? 29: Have you made a boyfriend/girlfriend cry? 30: What’s irritating you right now? 31: Does somebody love you? 32: What is your favourite color? 33: Do you have trust issues? 34: Who/what was your last dream about? 35: Who was the last person you cried in front of? 36: Do you give out second chances too easily? 37: Is it easier to forgive or forget? 38: Is this year the best year of your life? 39: How old were you when you had your first kiss? 40: Have you ever walked outside completely naked? 51: Favourite food? 52: Do you believe everything happens for a reason? 53: What is the last thing you did before you went to bed last night? 54: Is cheating ever okay? 55: Are you mean? 56: How many people have you fist fought? 57: Do you believe in true love? 58: Favourite weather? 59: Do you like the snow? 60: Do you wanna get married? 61: Is it cute when a boy/girl calls you baby? 62: What makes you happy? 63: Would you change your name? 64: Would it be hard to kiss the last person you kissed? 65: Your best friend of the opposite sex likes you, what do you do? 66: Do you have a friend of the opposite sex who you can act your complete self around? 67: Who was the last person of the opposite sex you talked to? 68: Who’s the last person you had a deep conversation with? 69: Do you believe in soulmates? 70: Is there anyone you would die for?
#ashascadence#ashacadence#about me#god this is a long one#I never kissed anyone okay#never really had that moment in life that I was just ever ready to be in a relationship
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The Experiment: Ch. 14
A chance encounter with Blue Agate, an additional name, and an obedient drone.
The Captain Underpants gem au is by @angerydj
“We’ll be fine here.”
A red light shined on the cave wall.
“Are you sure?”
A pink light shined next to him.
“Nobody leaves the colony. We’ll be safe here.”
“What if we’re caught?”
“If they try separating us, I’ll shatter any gem that gets in the way. Nobody will tear us apart.” They held each other hands...
Monday.
The day he would break up George and Harold, no, they were Red Zircon and Yellow Sapphire. Red Agate felt ecstatic about the fact. But a part of him, that annoying, stupid part, it was sad. Remorseful.
He would not let that get in the way of his victory. He will have order in his school. Starting with the separation of those two.
He could have filed and filled out the forms at any time between Saturday and the moment he walked into his office on Monday. He had to do it in front of them. He wanted to see all of their hopes and dreams die in their eyes. He wanted them to suffer as much as he could make them. He wanted...
The drone bumped into him. Red Agate rolled his eyes, stopping at the door to his office. Melvin explained that it would stay with him at all time until it was imprinted by another’s gem.
It was so clingy. It was... it was nice.
It made Red Agate... happy?... to have something to look after other than his reef. Granted it’s only been a couple days. At least the drone obeyed his commands. Unlike SOME GEMS.
“Ugh, that reminds me.” He groaned
Red Agate pulled out his data pad. He almost forgot he still needed to send out a message to the colony and council looking for a new science teacher.
“And sent.” He said to himself
When he looked up from the pad, he had the shock of his life. A certain gem had snuck up on him and waited in silence for him to finish his task. Thankfully that gem was the prettiest gem in the whole school. So Red Agate tried to calm himself down after the fright.
“Blue Agate.” He said
“I’m sorry if I disturbed you. I hope you can forgive me.” She said, feeling guilty and holding something in her hands, “I should go.” She took a couple steps away.
“Uh, no! Blue! It’s okay, I was just um, so, hi.” Red Agate said. He slid his pad back into his pocket and picked up the drone, tucking it under his left arm.
“What brings you around here?” He asked
“It’s just that... I was preparing a recipe for the infants, and I wondered if other gems liked eating food. Then I accidentally made this tuna casserole, with your name on it, in jalapeño peppers.” Blue Agate explained
Instead of ‘Red Agate’, the peppers spelt ‘Krupp’. But Red Agate leaned forward and smelled the dish. He was suddenly at a loss for what flavors food had. He wasn’t a gem to eat food, but he has tried a few small bits here and there.
“Smells, uh... Spicy.” He said, hoping that was the right word. Blue Agate nodded her head, a smile tugging on the corner of her lips.
“That’s because it’s it’s been dry aged for a week.” She explained
“I don’t know what that means but it sounds time consuming.” Red Agate responded with a nervous smile.
“It took a week.” Blue Agate responded. Red Agate kept smiling while his mind raced for something else to say.
Anything! Don’t stand there looking like a fool! This isn’t working. Get out! Get out with some dignity left in tact!
“Well, I guess... I should get back to work. School’s not going to run itself!” Red Agate said, retreating to his office. He sighed in relief. He looked down at the drone he still held. Wait, where’d that food Blue make go? He made the drone hand on to his leg beneath his pants and opened the door, but she was gone.
“Wait! Blue! You never gave me that tuna casserole!” He called out, running in the direction of the cafeteria. He managed to catch up to her just outside of it.
“Oh. Are you sure? You don’t have to if you don’t eat.” Blue Agate said
“I uh, I’m willing to try it.” Red started
Especially if I took was made by you! Say it!!
“Especially if you made by... it.” He blurted out.
“What?” Blue asked
“Nothing!” Red Agate quickly said before gently taking the casserole dish from Blue, “I’m just going to... put this in the teacher lounge... than bring it home. Thank you Blue Agate.”
“It’s Edith, actually. That’s the name Harold and George gave me.” Blue Agate explained
Edith. Her name is Edith.
“And I’ve been meaning to ask you,” She started again, pulling Red Agate from his thoughts.
“Ask me? Uh, what?” He asked, nervously.
“Most humans have two names. I mean, I know we gems have one name, but if a human is called ‘mister’ or ‘missus’, than they have a first and last name. I know your last name is Krupp, but what is your first?” Edith asked
Two names? Why do humans need two names? What’s the point? And why can’t Krupp be my first name? Come on think! What humans do you actually like? Let’s see... Guggenheim, Banneker, Butler, no wait Franklin! That’s it!
“It’s Benjamin.” Red Agate responded
“Hm. Benjamin Krupp. Has a nice ring.” Edith said before walking into the cafeteria, closing the door behind her.
He was alone. He put a hand on his gem.
“Edith.” He whispered. He sighed with a smile on his face.
He felt himself heat up slightly. It was nice not to burn anything in his path. Thankfully, the infants were all in their classes. They would not see him redder than usual, walking down the hall to his office.
The high of talking to Edith suddenly wore off when he saw his door slightly open. Two little whispering voices soon reached his ears as he carefully walked closer. But Red Agate still felt the drone hanging on to his leg.
He walked in without them noticing. They were looking over the cabinet drawer where he kept all of their confiscated goods. Red Agate silently closed the door then clicked his heels together. The two jumped and turned around, clinging to their comics.
“Well, if it isn’t George the red zircon and Harold yellow sapphire.” He said confidently, he pulled a chair up, “To what do I owe the pleasure?” He put his foot on it. “Is it, perhaps, this?” He lifted up his pant leg to show the drone still hanging on.
“Oh no.” The zircon sighed
“Nice try.” Red Agate said with a smirk, “Melvin had the bright idea to make it smart enough to be imprinted on by gems. He never leaves my side.” He picked up the drone and put it on his desk.
“That poor turtle.” The sapphire whispered
“Everyone, sit.” Red Agate said
On a shelf were various datapads for various duties. Red Agate picked out the one he needed and slapped it down on his desk. The infants were sitting in their chairs, while the drone and stack of comics were sitting on his desk. All was as it should be.
But it wasn’t perfect yet. It will be soon!
“Do you know what this is for?” Red Agate asked, holding up the pad. The boys were too scared to answer. “Why this is the form that seperates you. I can actually see the end of your friendship.” The infants gasped “And it ends right here,” he picked up a stylus from its holder, “on this dotted line.”
“George! Do something!” Said the yellow sapphire
The gem “Yellow Sapphire” will be transferred to another classroom to be determined by “Benjamin Kru-” Red Agate scribbled out his human name and wrote Red Agate.
“Put that stylus down Mr. Krupp!” Red Agate looked up to a swirling red and white patterned ring on the finger of George, “Or we’ll hypnotise you!”
#captain underpants#gem au#red Agate!Krupp#krupp#Red Zircon!George#George#Yellow Sapphire!Harold#harold#Blue Agate!Edith#edith
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Tried really hard to like it since the release.
Still hate it 👍
Listen, I don't wanna be that person.
But...
The new versions of The Epic Saga? The re-release?
I hated it.
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