#fawns pronking in wilderness

[dojae-huh]

There was a time (2013) when TVXQ made more money than YG and JYP combined.

SM $256M, YG $114M, JYP $74M

TVXQ $191M (TVXQ 75% SM 25%)

And other years (2014-2018) they also made the bigger cut of SM's revenue (2014 - 67%, 2015 - 63,5%, (army), 2017 - 40,5%, 2018 - 63%). Thus we can conclude NCT was funded by them, heh. Thank you, uncle Changmin and uncle Yunho (btw, Yuno is Jaehyun because of him: 윤호 and 윤오, spelled a bit differently, sound identical).

I wanted to list the sources of income:

For 2014

Japanese tour: ~$102M

Global tour: ~$23M

Korean albums and singles, DVDs: : ~$9M

Japanese albums, singles, DVDs: ~$40M

Fanmeetings: ~$7M

For 2018:

Japanese tour :~$122M

Asian tour :~$24M

Korean albums and singles, DVDs: ~$4M

Japanese albums, singles, DVDs: ~$25M

Fanmeetings: ~$13M

If Japan loves you, you are safe as an artist, your longevity is secured (scroll down), heh. In case you are wondering why Doyoung is learning Japanese.

And do you see that 159 mln concerts+fanmeets vs 29mln albums?

Granted, those numbers are probably revenue, not net earnings. Still.

[delicatelysublimeforester]

In the city of Saskatoon, the George Genereux Urban Regional Park and the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area are great places to learn and experience nature education.  The semi wilderness habitat makes great homes for animals.  What do visitors of the afforestation areas need to know when visiting the homes of these residents?

White-tailed Deer Fawn. Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area. Saskatoon, SK, CA

White-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus)

Mule deer (Odocoileus hemionus)

White-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus)

Why do deer and moose appreciate the George Genereux Urban Regional Park and the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area in Saskatoon?

An animal that feeds on plants is referred to as an herbivore. There are many different kinds of herbivorous mammals which frequent the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area and George Genereux Urban Regional Park. The White-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus), Mule deer (Odocoileus hemionus) and Moose (Alces alces) are among the herbivourous mammals of the afforestation areas.

How are these two deers recognized?  Mule deer have larger ears than the White-tailed deer, however, that feature may only help with binoculars.  There is another way to make identification.

When alarmed, a mule deer will run with a bounce referred to as stotting (also called pronking or pronging). The deer literally springs into the air, lifting all four feet off the ground simultaneously.

A white-tailed deer, will show, or flash its white tail when alarmed. This alarm response is called “Tail flare” which is used by all deer, though more visible to humans for the white-tailed deer species. The flashing tail alerts all of the herd to danger. The flashing tail held up while the herd is fleeing is a very easy target for the fawns to follow through forest thickets and heavy brush so it does not get lost.

Young bucks

Moose laying down during daytime

Herd of Buck Deer

A moose is recognized by its distinctive shape with features such as a hump on its back which make it easy to distinguish a moose from a deer. The horns on a bull moose are very distinct from the horns of a deer stag. A baby moose is a calf, a male moose is called a bull, a female moose is called a cow. A male deer is called stag or buck, a female deer is called doe or hind, and a young deer is called fawn, kid or calf.

Deer and moose are digrastic animals, which means that they have a unique pair of muscles under their jaw which act to open and close their mouth. One unique thing about all deer species, is that there is a lack of teeth in their front upper jaw. When looking in the habitat for evidence of deer, search for a ragged edge on twigs which show signs of damage. Be aware of the height of the twigs off the ground, and the time of the year when you think deers may be browsing on trees.

Another way to identify a habitat in which deer or moose call their home is to be aware of their droppings or “Scat.” During the summer months, a moose may leave piles which resemble cow droppings. In the winter a moose the scat changes to long round pellets larger than those of a deer or a rabbit. Deer usually have piles of black to dark brown pellets. If the animals are near a good water source, their scat may clump. Deer pellets are about the size of chocolate covered raisins. Rabbit scat is smaller, and very round, Moose scat is larger, elongated and bigger than chocolate covered almonds.

To help in the identification of wildlife in George Genereux Urban Regional Park and the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area, also look for tracks (footprints) in the soil, or in the snow. Freshly fallen snow, makes it easy to see animal tracks. Moose have cloven hooves longer than 18 centimetres (7 inches). Cloven means split or divided in two. Deers also have split hooves, though the tracks are much smaller. A deer track is 4 – 7.5 cm (1-1/2 to 3 inches) in length. Deers are also much smaller in mass, so the depression in the soil or snow is lighter than the deep depression made by a heavy moose.

“George Genereux” Urban Regional Park, Saskatoon Saskatchewan Animal Tracks in the snow.

Which are human, deer and rabbit tracks in the above images?

Moose are solitary animals, but White-tailed deers live together in herds. There are two types of herds for the White-tailed deer community. The does and fawns herd together, and the bucks herd together, except during the mating season. Mule deers will come together as a united herd, males and females until spring. In the spring, Mule deer adopt behaviors similar to the herding patterns of White-tailed deer. The does and fawns will stay together to seek protective habitats, and males will take the risk of being in sight of predators, and search out rich, abundant food sources.

Mule Deer West Swale Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area. Saskatoon, SK, CA Winter

Mule Deer West Swale Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area. Saskatoon, SK, CA Winter

White-tailed Deer. Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area. Saskatoon, SK, CA

White-tailed Deer Fawn. Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area. Saskatoon, SK, CA

White-tailed Deer Fawn. Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area. Saskatoon, SK, CA

If you see long grasses flattened, or a depression in the fresh snow, which are about 1.2 meters (four feet) in diameter, then that is likely where a moose may have lain down to rest.  Deers also spend 70% of their time lying down.

These animals ~deer and moose~ are also referred to as ruminants. Ruminants are mammals that are able to acquire nutrients from plant-based food by fermenting it in a specialized stomach prior to digestion, principally through microbial actions. The process, which takes place in the front part of the digestive system and therefore is called foregut fermentation, typically requires the fermented ingesta (known as cud) to be regurgitated and chewed again. The process of rechewing the cud to further break down plant matter and stimulate digestion is called rumination. These animals gather their food quickly, and later find a place to rest safe from predators. It is when they are in their safe place that they can regurgitate their food and re-chew it fully.

The Trembling Aspen is the preferred food of deer, though they will search out the “Balm of Gilead” from the Balsam Poplar (Populus balsamifera). Balm of Gilead is made from the resinous gum of the Balsam Poplar.  Deer will only resort to eating the buds of the Colorado Blue Spruce (Picea pungens) if they are starving, and in desperate circumstances.

The diet of the deers does vary. When foliage is green during the late spring and summer, deers will turn to eating grasses, sedges, winter cereals and other forbs. A forb is a flowering plant other than a grass. Crops, leaves, tender twigs, and buds are also mainstays. As the seasons change, deers will turn to cut alfalfa hay fields in the autumn. Deers rely almost exclusively on twigs and buds throughout the winter, and into early spring choosing Trembling Aspen (Populus tremuloides), Buffaloberry (Shepherdia argentea), Willow (‎Salix; ‎L.), Western Snowberry (Symphoricarpos occidentalis), and Prickly Rose (Rosa acicularis).

Just as the deer diet varies through the seasons, so too does the diet of the moose. Summer provides catkins, leaves, tall grasses bark, pine cones, twigs and buds of trees and shrubs. Winter food is much harder to forage (forage means to search widely for food). Moose will resort to willow bushes and woody plants.

Fawns are born between the middle of May to the end of June. Deers will leave their fawns alone in order to feed. However, the doe is usually within 90 meters of where she leaves her fawn. If the doe leaves the fawn by itself, if there are any predators in the area, the predators follow the scent of the doe, and the chances of survival for the fawn increases. The doe knows there is little chance that predators will find her fawn, because she attends to the grooming of her fawn which means that there is little scent on her little fawn. The doe returns at sunrise or sunset to check on their offspring. The doe will make the decision to move her fawn, or feed them at that site. Usually the fawn is left concealed in a thicket of tall grass.

Moose calves are also born in the spring. A calf can walk from the first day that they are born, and they stay with the cow for their first year.  The mating season of the moose takes place in September and October, during these months moose may become more aggressive.  However, generally speaking, Moose are docile towards humans.  Moose have a better sense of hearing and sense of smell than humans, and a poorer sense of sight.   Never approach a moose, but observe from a safe distance.

Deers require trees and shrubs for protection, as the open prairie does not afford them shelter from the elements nor do the prairie grasslands provide enough cover to hide from their predators.

Questions to ponder

What is the most interesting thing about deers?  About moose?

When walking through the George Genereux Urban Regional Park and the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area is it easy or hard to find out if deer or moose are there? Is it easier in the summer or the winter months? Why or why not?

What should humans do if they found a fawn in the George Genereux Urban Regional Park or the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area? Is it important to let others know about animal behaviour and habitats? Why?

What do moose and deer like the best about the George Genereux Urban Regional Park and the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Areas? Why?

What do you know about the mating season of deer and moose? Would you want to meet a deer or a moose during mating season? Why or why not?

If you compare your diet to the diet of the deer and moose, what benefits do deer and moose derive from the wetlands?

Do humans chew their cud like a deer or moose? Why or why not?

Are Moose calves, or Deer fawns larger?

What impact to domesticated dogs have on the habitat of deers and moose?  What impact does the addition of the human footprint in an eco-system have on the habitat of deers and moose?

What is the difference between the antlers of a bull moose and a deer buck?

Would you sight a deer or a moose in a tree? Would a deer or moose burrow into the ground? Would living underwater in the wetlands be a suitable habitat for deer or moose? Why or why not?

If you were to create a woodland mammal what would it look like? What would your animal eat? Why?

Saskatchewan Curriculum Study

Kindergarden LTK.1, MOK.1

Grade One LT1.1

Grade Two AN 2.1, AN2.2, AN2.3

Additionally, field tours are presented at the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area and at George Genereux Urban Regional Park

Free Printed Resources are available during field tours.

For directions as to how to drive to “George Genereux” Urban Regional Park

For directions on how to drive to Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area

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  For more information:

Blairmore Sector Plan Report; planning for the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area,  George Genereux Urban Regional Park and West Swale and areas around them inside of Saskatoon city limits

P4G Saskatoon North Partnership for Growth The P4G consists of the Cities of Saskatoon, Warman, and Martensville, the Town of Osler and the Rural Municipality of Corman Park; planning for areas around the afforestation area and West Swale outside of Saskatoon city limits

Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area is located in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada north of Cedar Villa Road, within city limits, in the furthest south west area of the city. 52° 06′ 106° 45′ Addresses: Part SE 23-36-6 – Afforestation Area – 241 Township Road 362-A Part SE 23-36-6 – SW Off-Leash Recreation Area (Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area ) – 355 Township Road 362-A S ½ 22-36-6 Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area (West of SW OLRA) – 467 Township Road 362-A NE 21-36-6 “George Genereux” Afforestation Area – 133 Range Road 3063 Wikimapia Map: type in Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area Google Maps South West Off Leash area location pin at parking lot Web page: https://stbarbebaker.wordpress.com Where is the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area? with map Where is the George Genereux Urban Regional Park (Afforestation Area)? with map

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Should you wish to help protect / enhance the afforestation areas, please contact the City of Saskatoon, Corporate Revenue Division, 222 3rd Ave N, Saskatoon, SK S7K 0J5…to support the afforestation area with your donation please state that your donation should support the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area, or the George Genereux Urban Regional Park, or both afforestation areas located in the Blairmore Sector. Please and thank you!  Your donation is greatly appreciated.

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  “ “We forget that we owe our existence to  the presence of Trees.   As far as forest  cover goes, we have never been in such a  vulnerable position as we are today.  The  only answer is to plant more Trees – to  Plant Trees for Our Lives.” ~ Richard St. Barbe Baker.

“The science of forestry arose from the recognition of a universal need. It embodies the spirit of service to mankind in attempting to provide a means of supplying forever a necessity of life and, in addition, ministering to man’s aesthetic tastes and recreational interests. Besides, the spiritual side of human nature needs the refreshing inspiration which comes from trees and woodlands. If a nation saves its trees, the trees will save the nation. And nations as well as tribes may be brought together in this great movement, based on the ideal of beautifying the world by the cultivation of one of God’s loveliest creatures – the tree.” ~ Richard St. Barbe Baker.

“I believed that God has lent us the Earth. It belongs as much to those who come after us as to us, and it ill behooves us by anything we do or neglect, to deprive them of benefits which are in our power to bequeath.” Richard St. Barbe Baker

        Afforestation Area Mammals In the city of Saskatoon, the George Genereux Urban Regional Park and the Richard St. Barbe Baker Afforestation Area are great places to learn and experience nature education. 

[dojae-huh]

Remember "Evil SM evicted Shotaro and Sungchan from NCT, didn't let them join NCT Wish!"? And now Riize is gathering 14k venues just for a fanmeet, not even a concert, 1 year after debut.

What is this group colour supposed to be? Peach?

Key is probably the only SM idol breathing down album designers' necks, heh.

[dojae-huh]

Coming back w the link to the last ep of MIK (@jamgiz on X). The ending is kind of sweet haha.

Ep 6 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1qZB5p6QgQ7WkFOUgcp4aJKPGBDX2pAgX

Thank you for the review to the last 5 eps, I agree w you. Them feeling unwanted bcoz they don't get positive feedback reminds me of your comment on the last ep of Lastart. "You see, Riku realises he needs to fill in the shoes, that's why I like him, he is like Taeyong, he will improve relentlessly, some others don't feel the burden really...". The need to realize your role in the group & work on it, rather than focusing only on getting positive feedback as the goal.

Whether DA will last long: Aside from beating out the individualistic self, I also want to point out the motivation to join band like this. Idk much about the band culture in the West, I can only refer to what we know in Kpop; commonly being able to debut in ur group is the pride, the final dream (years being a trainee), long time commitment (TVXQ, Suju still active today), a name u want to protect (Haechan w NCT). Things might be different in non Kpop environment (contract as well)..

Hopefully they keep learning to be more as one group.

Link

Thank you for reminding me people actually read what I write, haha.

I've watched the last episode yesterday. And even watched an English morning show for kids DA guested at for promotion (where slime was thrown at Blaize). The show left an impression... not of a good kind, lol. So they truly follow the k-pop route, variety shows including. (I kind of enjoy how one hobby (stanning one group) kind of expands in different directions and conbines different experiences. The way I related to Doyoung saying salak from the jungles was tastier than from the shop. Still couldn't find fruits as sweet as the ones from Waigeo island. At least Malaysia had the right round kind. The ones in Thailand are not really edible fresh.)

I liked how Reese told Hee Jun Yoon "I'm a good boy, not a bad boy", when she hinted that they should do alright as a group unless they get into scandals. It was funny. Either the UK producer (that old man) or SM team made sure to take the character of trainees into account. Evidently the guys weren't picked at random only based on how they danced and sang during the initial screening of candiadates.

The boys won a golden ticket, were given private lessons, were treated with care, and still needed multiple lessons to show that they are too over their heads. They wouldn't last a month in a real Korean idol-survival show, heh. I suppose "lashing out" was out of self-protection. "I'm working all day and doing my best, it's not my fault!". Reese wasn't scolded much because he corrected what he was told to correct, not just "put in effort".

Looks like most of them are in the group to perform (two did musicals, one has been singing from childhood, one is a tiktoker), i.e. to be liked and to have fun. Some have musical education though, Maybe song-writing or producing will appear in the future.

DA can last if they develop real friendships. 10 years is highly unlikely, but even 5-7 years will be a good result. With Blaize it was evident he wanted a found family. He looks very different (open, not closed off) in the interviews now in comparison to the show. It's a joint production with SM, the company will continue to participate. SM needs success with them to replicate this formula.

Speaking of Riku. He is on a quest of shipping himself with Jaehee. Considering fans like Riku/Yushi, it is also a consious decision to work for the whole group (three pairs: Shion&Yushi, Riku&Jaehee, Ryo&Sakuya, and the least popular quiet member brought to the spotlight). Of course, Jaehee being a good sport and an enabling friend helps.

[dojae-huh]

Have finished 5 out of 6 eps of "Made in Korea" show about Dear Alice.

British are as foreign to me as Koreans. Actually, I can relate to the latter easier. I do watch British tv-series, but rarely. As such, the members of the group were a big contrast to what I got used to after years of k-pop.

The biggest struggle for everyone, the boys and the SM team, was to beat out self-importance out of the members, and make them into one group. The Evil queen used different "bring dow to Earth" tactics to remind them they are lacking in everything. You think people will pay for your performance with this level? You are winded after 2 choreo routines, how do you expect to hold a concert, will you tell the audience to come home after one song? You can't cry or be angry everytime you make a mistake, you are not a baby anymore. And so on.

Funny thing, although she didn't praise the boys often, she was still very polite talking to them. None of that harshness and verbal abuse we can see on idol-survival shows. The boys were treated with care, and still broke down all the time due to lack of positive reinforcement. Instead of "I can fail and not get into the group" it was "they don't want me here".

I really expected some SM artists to talk to them, but they only got a cheering message from their crush aespa as a treat. I would like to look at their faces after Johhny tells him about his 8 years of training, not getting into Exo, not getting into 127, and how long it took for the unit to become famous, heh. Or for them to sit at a dance practice.

Everyone, even those who did sports, had problems with stamina. Neos look gaunt, but at their level of idolship and 2-3 hour concerts they are performance machines. (It is nutririon, as mentioned in the docu, but it is also about the developed capillary system that supplies all tissues with oxygen, the number of myrochondria in cells that produce energy, the correct breathing methods, etc)

As of now, it is hard to believe DA will last more than 3-5 years. The members have become close, but they are still pretty individualistic, with egos.

It is easy to see why they were chosen, though. Less attention on skills and more focus on star-quality, looks and charm.

I also had a thought that k-pop busy choreo may not be as weird for a non-k-pop group today. People like TikTok and dance challenges, afterall. It's less about god-like stars and more about cozy influencers and parasocial friendship/crush.

[dojae-huh]

Started to watch Dear Alice docu. I saw opinions that 90 days is not enough, they won't be on par with k-pop groups.

Firstly, it will be a "k-pop inspired" group, not a foreign group performing on Korean shows (like the recently debuted Taiwanese gg Genblue, that has only one Korean member, but its debut single is in Korean). Secondly, 90 days of bootcamp is actually enough? Yes, k-pop trainees learn for years, however, they often study at the same time. And there are many cases when idols debut after a few months in the company (Chenle, Jaehee). The skills and experience continue to be developed after the debut. And it's not like DA members stopped their preparation and dancing lessons after returning from SK (and most of them didn't start from scratch either).

The real reason for the bootcamp is to test the members (mental capabilities, adaptability, grit) and show them what it really takes. What k-pop idols went through to be able to fill those huge stadiums, who they will compete against in a few years if they persevere (as k-pop bg dominate the world right now). To get that cultural shock and realise how lacking they were, that a pretty face and nice character is not enough. And expand their understanding of the world through cultural experience (going abroad really changes how people think, I observe this effect with my own friends, as I'm the most travelled and worked and co-habited with people of multiple nationalities). Lastly, quickly unite them through fun activities and hardships, when they had only each other in a new environment.

OK, I'm at minute 5 mark, let's actually watch the show.

Sly SM made a point of showing aespa (a global tour this year, will be pushed as the next global gg), NCT Wish and Riize (the newest bgs).

I like the vocal couch, heh. That foxy smile. Ready to crush spirits and bring someone to tears... he helped instead though. A true benevolent creature.

The evil queen has come. The woman who has been selecting trainees for SM for over 20 years (and who chose the final 5, seems like they were not aware) and she is a fan of Duran Duran. Her review is evidently scripted (her goal not to judge the performance, she knows it's the first week and doesn't expect much, the goal is to instill humbleness and anger to prove her wrong). Those calculated flicks of the finger in "dissapointment", heh. The "emergency meeting", lmao. They have a show to shoot, the boys are going nowhere.

Riize's "passion is enough" is the kind of answer that differentiate the Western mindset from the Korean one. Koreans grow up in school already grinding and competing. Noone congratulates them for participation and being just passionate.

I did notice one thing with Asian trainees on idol shows though. They tend to give up easily (I can't do it, I will go into the corner and mourn) and rely a lot on the strengths of other members (you can sing, you will pull our unit).

Welp, the first episode was enjoyable. I like the editing and the voiceover. A normal pace, not too much of a drama, a good introduction of the members (we already can see who needs to work on self-esteem, who is a thinker, who is a charmer).

[dojae-huh]

Huh nim, if you're interested, these are links to Dear Alice docu, found it from (@makkulion), ppl are also sharing clips on X. One episode left next week. Ep 1 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ry411e75x/ Ep 2 https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1E1WieHE3H Ep 3 https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1HzHceQEg2 Ep 4 https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1P7pheGEFB Ep 5 https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1N6tgeeEp7

Like you said, the lack of positive feedback is expressed by the members. (Personally, I hv some concerns about some  member's skill & how they're gonna be received in global/nonkpopper audience, but I'm rooting for them).

Link, Link2, Link3, Link4, Link5

Thank you!

At least two of the members have musical education and participated in musicals. Which is unusual for Western boybands. The boys might be not on par with k-pop groups, but they should be enough for UK. Charisma and lack of language barrier are more important. And, well, availability. So few k-pop groups give concerts in Europe, heh. Let alone fanmeets.

YT timely offered me today a short video on why there are no boybands anymore in charts. SM saw an empty niche and acted. Btw, Kangta was involved in the project in some way.

I counted the number of debuts this year. NCT Wish, Ten, Lucas, Doyoung, Jaehyun, Yuta, Irene, Naevis, Dear Alice, Mytro, Yohan Kim, SM Jazz trio, new gg - 13! (I hope I didn't miss anyone, maybe a new DJ?) + a new bg and a duet from a subsidiary (Mystic Story) - ARrC and ANODE.

It's so funny now to read old posts about SM 3.0: the panic, SM is no more, damn you Chris Lee&Co...