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Wip of character sheets for my fic, Someone Get This Kid a Support System. Not a redesign, just different outfits and stuff! SGTKSS is a maribat crossover, so keep that in mind if you check it out lol.
Hopefully the quality is better if you click 😭
Also I haven't drawn Damian before please go easy on me y'all
Part 2 can be found right here if you're interested!
#miraculous ladybug#mlb#maribat#marinette dupain cheng#chloe bourgeois#nino lahiffe#damian wayne#mlb fanfic#mlb fanart#wip#fanon chloé#canon is dead I killed it in a back alleyway#SGTKSS au
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I don't think I should've added Lila due to her...er...current arc atm in the show, but I know that some people like them together, and again, this could be more of a fanon thing.
#I'm not adding no one because I don't want salt in the tags or fights in the comments please#Plus this is more of a fanon thing#miraculous ladybug#chloe bourgeois#queen bee#chloé bourgeois#marinette dupain cheng#luka couffaine#sabrina raincomprix#alix kubdel#alya cesaire#lila rossi#adrien agreste#kagami tsuguri#nathaniel kurtzberg#chlonette#lukole#chlobrina#chlolix#chlolya#chlolila#chloadrien#chlogami#chlonath#shippings#poll#Oh and if you're a chloe hater#Fuck off now because I don't want to deal with your shit#Please and thank you <3
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For the record!
Wow what a surprise
Part 2 of the little thing I’m doing for Science™
TO BE CLEAR this is not an invitation to spread salt about the show or characters, and certainly not an encouragement to trash each other in the notes. You are welcome to elaborate on your opinion, as long as you do so respectfully.
#miraculous ladybug#chloé bourgeois#chloe bourgeois#queen bee#As expected#Although for me the most enjoyable gap is between Canon and Fanon Nathalie
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Hi, congrats on 4K! If your drawing requests are still open, I'd like to put in my request, which is Chloé x Marinette (or Ladybug x Queen Bee) content.
I could see both girls building each other up: Chloé in her business venture and Marinette in her fashion career, plus the former could also serve as her model (Chloé's already been redeemed at this point and has been nice to Marinette). Not to mention they enjoy doing all the lovey-dovey stuff.
Fanon makes me happy :,)
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🧠1 oh gosh Tumblr. OK, bear with me. I have 2 possible (fanon/mine) theories for Chloé's intelligence retcon. 1, trauma repression. I'll be honest, I'm not a psychologist or anything similar but between everything that happens to her from akuma attacks on her, her own akumatizations, and everything else from S1-3, I can see her just, shutting down parts of herself so she becomes a shadow of herself and her intelligence took the main brunt of it. 2, it's a magical block. Again, her repeated-
honestly if it weren't for Canon insisting that she's just always been like that, I'd believe it
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Okay I am suddenly very consumed by “reborn as the villainess” plot thoughts so imagine Fanon (redeemed) Chloé who got better after season 2 wakes up as canon season 5 Chloé and has to carefully untangle all the bullshit that her alternate self got into
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To be fair, I think that Luka shouldn’t been the one who helps Chloe to redeem, but rather a reward after her redemption. You think that he would forgive a girl who bullied his ex-girlfriend for years that easily?
See, this is a fanon headcanon that isn't supported by canon. Chloé did not bully Juleka that we know of. She did the photo thing to her only because:
A)Juleka was next to Adrien
B)Juleka went to the bathroom at the right time.
That's entirely opportunity. Was it mean? Yeah. But it's a far cry from 'bully for years'.
And why shouldn't Luka help her? He helps everyone else. He helps his ex get with the crush she kept pining for *even while they were dating* Luka's a good guy.
Besides, I have always phrased it as a mutually beneficial interaction. Luka grows and learns from interacting with Chloé too. It's not one sided.
And lastly: no human being should ever be a reward.
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If you're still doing the pairing meme: Tikki/Plagg, Alyanette, Felinette, Adrinino and Lukanino?
Oh wow, that's quite the list. *cracks knuckle* Here I go!!
Tikki/Plagg
Screw canon with "Kwami don't understand love or human's feelings", Tikki and Plagg are the oldest married couple ever around!!! The balance, opposite attracts, fun bickering, sweet nickname Plagg only has for Tikki? They're married, your Honour!
Alya/Marinette
Best friends to lovers is a go!! It's a shame the show is so inconstant with Alya's characterization, but let's forget it for a moment: Alya is the one who openly stood up to Chloé for Marinette when they didn't know one another, Alya keeps rooting for Marinette in everything she does and helps whenever she can, is her confident and keeps giving her pep talk... what's not to love? Sure, Alya isn't perfect, and she's still a teen learning subtility among other things. And I don't think I need to expand on what Marinette does for Alya and everyone else, the poor girl even needs a long vacation! Burn whatever Lila is doing to Alya's brain whenever she appears on screen, Alya is a good friend and potential GF for Marinette!
Felix/Marinette
I am glad Felix was replaced by Adrien, I don't care if the quality of the show dropped or is imitating a roller-coaster ride. I've seen enough "girl is infatuated with a (selfish) boy who's acting like an asshole to her, whilst drooling all over a persona of hers", and I am glad they went for the "classmates-friends-to-lovers" route. Felix isn't "a jerk with a heart of gold", that's fanon Felix, and while some creators have very good AUs for the pairing (some I even follow!), it got tarnished in my eyes by the too many salt fics where Felix comes around to "save Marinette from EvUlanDsTOopiD classmates and Adrien". UGH. I despise how they made Felix an asshole only to try and make me feel sorry for him afterwards, there are two kinds of assholes, and Felix in his first apparitions wasn't in the "likeable" one.
Adrien/Nino
Underrated, underdeveloped, wasted potential, WHY?! They would make a very cute couple!! Also, gimme more of their friendship on screen goddamnit!!!!! They would be so fun to follow, example: Nino is usually being chill and smiling yet he (internally or not) completely freak out when Adrien makes a social faux pas due to his upbringing or casually buys him some expensive stuff "DUDE PLEASE DON'T 😨" "Did I do something wrong?? Are you mad? 😢" "Nonononono I'm not mad but... next time, just follow my lead and keep your money, please??" (still he lets Adrien give him gifts though because it's one of his love languages)
Luka/Nino
Anon, either you've been through my main blog (respect, for it's so chaotic and mostly untagged) or you're a mind-reader because it's a rare pair that I'd love to see more!! I admit that the idea crossed my mind kind of randomly, mostly when I was working on my Miraculous Team AU, but then I couldn't stop thinking about it. With good development, these two could work well! They'd make a fun, cute and chill couple, both music lovers and artists in different fields. Nino could be the shoulder Luka could lean on, he who is so often the one to dry people's tears, the two would support each other in a calm, steady way. Nino's perseverance would inspire Luka, and Luka's hidden sneakiness would come in handy for Nino... so much potential!
#miraculous ladybug#pairing ask#alyanette#adrinino#lukanino#ninuka#plaggxtikki#felinette salt#saemi answers#long post#answers#rarepair#nino lahiffe#marinette dupain cheng#alya cesaire#luka couffaine#tikki the kwami#ml plagg
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Is there anything funnier than canon Chloé's reaction to Lila bullying Marinette compared to fanon Chloé's reaction?
#In fics she ruins Lila's plans in canon she fell in love i can't#I try to find Chlolila fics I only find Chloé redemption with Lila being exposed#miraculous ladybug#chloé bourgeois#lila rossi#ml season 5 spoilers
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what are your fav vnc ships?
Hi anon, I fear my answer will be rather boring. I'm a basic bitch when it comes to vnc shipping. Vanoé and domijeanne are popular within the fandom for a reason and I always like seeing them. I am also very into vanijeanne, but I don't tend to seek out a lot of fanon content for them. I think their interactions are some of the most entertaining in vnc canon (memoire 21 for instance) and I'm looking forward to when they next meet in the manga. Other than that I'm massively into JJchloé and a sizeable percentage of their ao3 tag is just me.
I'll throw in one weird one. I like Chloé x Machina. It's funny to me to point at this and call it yuri.
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Canon vs Fanon
Canon Chloé: You two are ridiculous!
Canon Lila: Not to mention weak. You actually caved and became friends with Marinette? Pathetic.
AU Chloé: We're pathetic? Are you kidding me? I'm not the one who has to use my best friend to do my homework for me... Anymore... What's more, I have more friends, REAL friends, than you've ever had, a boyfriend who loves me, and a healthier relationship with my family.
AU Lila: And at least I embrace who I am. Your name might not even really be Lila. And I don't have to leech off a supervillain to feel important. *takes AU Chloé's hand* And my friendships are based off love and forgiveness, not lies and empty promises.
Canon Chloé: Whatever. It doesn't matter.
Canon Lila: At the end of the day, we're the originals and you're not.
AU Lila: We don't care! We still exist!
AU Chloé: And if being canon means having to be anything like you, then maybe we don't want to be! *starts to leave* And by the way, Marinette is a great friend, in yours and a lot of other universes. And I pity you because you will never know.
#miraculous laybug#canon vs fanon#fanon vs canon#lila rossi#chloe bourgeois#lila rossi redemption#chloe bourgeois redemption#post redemption chloe#post redemption lila#stammering adrien au
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Throwing one of these so we don't big the writing thread with specifics.
FWIW I have found in my writing *waves at AO3* that starting with an incredibly simple and seemingly small plotline *really helps* it'll expand on its own.
'I'm going to rewrite X!' or 'Here are my 8 OCs to join the main cast!' are huge undertakings, and can quickly turn into a mental and emotional load.
Just as an example of what I mean. One of my stories started from the core: Road Trip.
Picked out two characters:Chloé &Marinette (chaos factor)
Okay, why would they be together?
Following Adrien. (Easy canon motive)
Why?
Gabriel(antagonist) is taking him and Lila on a second 'First Love' tour since the furst one failed (canon happening)
Needed Canon Divergence- Felix's plan failed, lovesick Marinette transformed back early(humour scene) so Gabe is going to unleash akumas across the globe on the trip to ruin Ladybug's rep.
Inciting event- Marinette overhears Lila(love rival) bragging about how she'll convince Gabriel to arrange a Marriage for herself and Adrien on the trip. Marinette panics, then plots. Reveals Lila's plan to Chloé causing the other to fly into indignant rage and call for her private jet to follow them. Mari gets to come along because she got the itinerary from Adrien earlier.
And 81k later hijinks, emotional trauma, healing, action et al just from just bouncing the characters off each other, almost no planning. All from 'road trip.'
This happens regularly 😂
My longest AU was in fact 'this was just gonna be a one shot to see what this rare pair might look like.'
Because of me being a Chloenette shipper (fanon version with MOST of season two in mind) I’d simply just abandon them following Adrien or simply get lost while trying to follow Adrien and them having hijinks in the place that they end up in and forgetting about him.
(As you can see I’m a firm believer in “Chloe and Marinette shouldn’t have to bond just because of Adrien and their mutual dislike for Lila (or any other girl that “threatens” their relationship with Adrien.)”
But with that being said, yeah I can see how one would get carried away with a prompt like this- Sooo much potential.
I wanted to start my own story but I haven’t gotten around to doing so YET (it has nothing to do with ML)
#answered asks#my first ask in a while#miraculous opinions#chloenette#Chloenette warning#ml criticism#writing#canon divergence#ml salt
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I want to do a little thing, for Science™
TO BE CLEAR this is not an invitation to spread salt about the show, the writing team or the characters themselves, and certainly not an encouragement to trash each other in the notes. You are welcome to elaborate on your opinion, as long as you do so respectfully.
Keep an eye out for the Canon >>> Fanon equivalent as Tumblr won’t let me link it!
#miraculous ladybug#marinette dupain cheng#ladybug#adrien agreste#chat noir#felix graham de vanily#argos#kagami tsurugi#ryuko#gabriel agreste#hawkmoth#monarch#nathalie sancoeur#mayura#chloé bourgeois#chloe bourgeois#queen bee#lila rossi#volpina#farfalla#butterfly lila#Most of you don’t need the disclaimer but the minority that does is veeery vocal#As for me?#Nathalie 100%
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the more I read Claire's POV, I remember fanon Chloé. wanting to protect the person they love despite the risk it may pose???? struggling to keep themselves in check for fear of being too vulnerable???? willing to put their safety, future and life of the one they love before their own???? WILLING TO LOSE THEIR STATUS FOR THE GIRL THEY LOVE??????? jdnxjsnzlsmsnxhsbdhx it's giving Fanon! Chloé before season 3. reminds me of Tacomuerte's version of Chloé.
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Reverse Universe- Alya accuses Chloé of being Shadybug.
Going with the fanon here, Shady and Chloé are more like Wednesday and Enid, or Vendetta and Charlotte from Making Fiends.
Rev!Alya: "I bet Chloé is Shadybug!"
Emonette: *stares at absolutely sweet prep!Chloé and shudders*
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The Various Character Problems and how I’ve dealt with some of them
(plus an episode list for seasons one and two please ask me questions it’s the only way I feel valid in posting this stuff)
Finally decided to talk more about my rewrite unprompted and what better way than to talk about the holes I have in fact, walked myself into and how I’ve mostly managed to deal with them. For both my convenience and yours, I have ordered these in a numbered list from the most dealt with to the least dealt with.
1. The Félix Problem
Felix was by far the easiest to deal with, especially since I got rid of the zodiac kwamis and changed what the peacock miraculous does. Rather than assistant to the emotional terrorist, Félix is Adrien’s kinda shady cousin. He still does get some people akumatized in his debut episode (which might also mark Alya’s first akumatization cause there’s zero way my Alya would think Chloé is Ladybug), but he makes no attempts to kiss Ladybug while disguised as Adrien and does explain why he did what he did and is mostly sorry for it. He then continuously and kind of sporadically pops up for the rest of season three, especially given that season three takes place from May to August.
2. The Lila Problem
Why was main problem came in the fact that I didn’t know if I wanted to use her canon-ish portrayal or pre-Volpina fanon interpretation. Not to reveal my age I guess, but I was watching miraculous ladybug before Lila was introduced, and all we got was a teaser image of the back of Volpina’s head. I was there in the fandom whenever everyone thought Volpina was gonna be Chat Noir’ rival for Ladybug’s affection. And even post-Volpina still had shades of that with Lila pursuing Marinette and then we got jealous Adrien. At this point, what I’ve landed on is Lila still lies about being friends with Ladybug, Ladybug politely asked her to maybe not do that, Lila gets akumatized, and maybe Adrien reveals he knew she was lying the whole time. Regardless of when Adrien reveals he knew Lila was lying Lila targets him rather than Marinette, by actively attempting to befriend Marinette, not knowing that she knows Lila’s a liar. I don’t think Lila will be like a man antagonist. She’ll probably just be like a Chloé.
3. The Emilie Problem
Trying to decide if Adrien’s mom was dead or not should be easier than it is but it’s not. In fact, I have three possible endings for her. Number one is that she’s just straight up dead and her body is like I cryogenic pod so it doesn’t decompose. Gabriel‘s goal is to bring back his super dead wife.
Number two is that Emilie is in a coma. This has the same markings as Emilie just being dead except less angsty because we could have Emilie come out of her coma when she is taken to an actual hospital instead of a weird cryogenic pod.
Number three is Emilie ran away in the middle of the night. This is the most of the options and the reason why is because Emilie is dead or in a coma she had no choice when she left Adrien with Gabriel, but running away and leaving her son behind means she made a conscious decision that her happiness and survival is more important than her son’s. I have two specials that take place after this series ends that could explore this fact depending on what happens when Gabriel is caught. Option one is that Emilie comes back once Gabriel is caught and we get some of Adrien’s feelings about his mother, learning that she could have come back at anytime or even though she could’ve taken him with her and she did the follow up of that and can they even reconcile that fact? The other option is that a learning that Gabriel has been arrested she stays away. Emilie is aware of the fact that she abandoned her son and he might not want to see her and maybe it’s just easier not try and change that. That being said, Emilie could have like a letter sent to Adrien explaining things and offer an olive branch and it’s up to him if he chooses to take it.
Not gonna lie this might be my favourite of the three, even if I think it be the least satisfying for the show, specials not included.
4. The Luka Problem
I don’t know if people were expecting this to be the main problem, but it is. Unlike Kagami, I feel that Lucas’s entire existence is contingent on Marinette dating life was written to her midseasons love interest. And yes, Kagami was written to do the same, I feel like she just has a bit more going on. Actually I only realized that I hadn’t figured out what to do with Luka because I realized that I backed myself into a corner when I decided to put Frozer, an episode that is about a date before the introduction of Kagami and Luka. I honestly don’t even know when or where I’m gonna introduce Luka into the show. Because of how quickly I have the show going, I can’t really have episodes where Marinette dates Luka and Adrien dates Kagami and so I feel like Luka’s entire purpose has kind of been removed. I mean I could, but it feels cruel to write those characters dating when I know they’re gonna break up because I have the main endgame couple as Marinette and Adrien.
Episode list time:
(as you can see I swapped Frozer with Chameleon to write myself out of that corner).Also I do use the French names of the episodes. I am both sorry and not sorry. I also hope that the episodes are legible if zoomed in, this post is already so long.
I only have three episodes of season three planned atm: Félix, Argos, and Befana.
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