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mage-ical-character-person · 9 months ago

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Don’t thank me no need I am having a great time, honestly! I haven’t had people engage with my ramblings so much in forever. Not since like…Fandroid the Musical Robot hyperfixation, I think. It’s great! Look at me I’m sort of interacting with people! Awesome. I’m so normal about the fictional creature.

anyway I might just keep rambling now because um about the potential significance of the trees

There’s the secret where Sam just randomly gets hanged sometimes? At least I think that’s what’s going on there. I brightened up the image and stuff but I’m still not entirely sure what I’m looking at. I don’t really think a sea anemone should be able to be hanged… not really any neck there. Also probably slippery enough to just slip out of the rope but I’ve never personally tried to hang a sea anemone so I’m not entirely sure how that would work. Either way, there’s notably a rope swing on the tree in the secret web world. Again not sure about the logistics of using a rope swing to hang a sea anemone but it’s something to think about.

Especially with the body bag being in Sam’s house specifically. Which does feel like something of a loose end at the moment.

like buddy I can assure you I did not put the body there. Who are you even talking to? Use proper nouns I need names what was whose fault?

… it’s an interesting message considering the secret thing that happens if you click on the flesh on the conveyor belt with Jade.

Is “it” Jade’s fault? Is she the one talking here or is someone else talking through her? Whoever it is seems to be blaming themself for the messed-up state of things. I don’t know who though? Sonny maybe? Apparently there’s a fan theory that Sam is Sonny, but while I’m not super familiar with the more ARG side of this whole thing that doesn’t feel right. Sonny seems to take responsibility for the Kinito situation so it wouldn’t make sense to me for the two to be one and the same when Sam’s little message is accusing someone else. Put a pin in this we’ll come back to it.

Sam and Jade really are enigmas. And a response I got from @maybe0rdinary brings something interesting to my attention.

because, oh yeah, that is a thing, isn’t it?

Kinito does mention having no friend(s) prior to meeting you. So what’s up with that?

Kinito couldn’t have made Sam and Jade and the Web World, I don’t think. Even with full system access and the extra features from the friends club he still can’t make NPCs. The best he can do is slap a Steam friend’s name and pfp onto a mannequin.

No, I think the Web World was made by the Kinito Company as a tie-in site for KinitoPET. And Kinito’s compatibility with it due to this allowed him to mess with it from there with the hide and seek thing and giving you your little favorite colored avatar. (actually speaking of tie in sites Kinito started as a plush collectible… Kinito Webkinz thing when??)

anyway back to Sam and Jade, because I want to touch back on what this post started as. Let’s talk about the fact that they are a sea anemone and a jellyfish. Two closely related organisms who share one iconic trait: they sting.

If you touch them, they sting. They’re carnivorous and they hunt by hurting anything that gets too close. Even a dead jellyfish still stings, that’s why they tell you not to mess with beached and dried out ones either. I think the same is true of sea anemones, as they use the same mechanism to sting.

Kinito’s not exactly a clownfish. Although these two are written to be his friends, he’s out of place with them and he can’t get too close. Other than the times with the secret glitchy messages, they also don’t seem to be self-aware or sentient in the same way he is. And those glitchy messages could easily be someone else talking through them. But who? Sonny other employees of the Kinito Company? People who have downloaded Kinito in the past and ended up trapped inside the code somehow? Kinito’s story does end with him finding a friend “just like you. To show you his skills and all he could do” which is a weird sort of redundant line if he’s talking about you in that moment. It sounds more like he’s making an example out of someone who’s “just like you”. Not necessarily making an example of them in an intentionally threatening way, but more like, trying to prove he knows what he’s doing cause he has experience? (He doesn’t know what he’s doing)

There’s also the line of “I wonder how this one will do” in the secret decoded thing the more ARG inclined people found that I talked about in the previous reblog. It all seems to imply that you’re not the first, but I’m not really sure?

one last response to respond to because okay yeah! Good points from @zo0pl0op

First of all I did not know about the thing with Kinito being rushed. That’s really interesting and does provide quite the explanation for why he’s Like That, also explaining why his initial training from Sonny was just “a single string of characters”.

Could be a possibility for Sam and Jade, too. One could be Sonny and one could be whatever executive decided KinitoPET needed to be released so quickly. It would be interesting so I’ll mention it but that’s just a thought and I’m not exactly committed to it as a theory. It would explain the “it was all your fault” thing from San either way… I could see Sonny blaming the rushed production pushed on him for why KinitoPET turned out the way he did (before by the end Sonny recognizes that at the end of the day he’s Kinito’s creator and has to accept some of the blame. Not entirely Sonny’s fault of course but in a situation this unusual and extreme bouncing between blaming yourself and blaming everyone but yourself feels like a response someone like Sonny could realistically have). I could also see an executive blaming Sonny for making a screwed up little axolotl that traps you in a computer. The regretful message coming from the Jade secret also sense if it’s coming from Sonny or an exec that now shares a prison with Sonny and is realizing this is a result of pushing Sonny too hard and forcing Kinito into action too early.

more of a headcanon or au type thing than a theory or analysis, though, as there’s not much supporting that and I just think it’s a cool idea.

AS FOR KINITO’S SENSE OF IDENTITY! This is why AI characters are always so intriguing to me because that’s always the question, isn’t it? (With Kinito it’s also the thing with horror reflecting common fears in society at the time like he’s an adaptive learning ai who tries to monopolize your life and your attention with “endless fun” and makes it impossible for you to interact with anyone human. ANYWAY.)

How much would he adapt to you if allowed to continue indefinitely? Well the Steam Guide with the secrets says:

So yeah. He’d turn himself into a hodgepodge of a perfect mirror of you mixed with your friends and everything you like.

How much of him is really himself? Well very little. Kind of the thing about being an AI. But he tells you, doesn’t he?

All he ever wanted was a friend. That was the only desire that Kinito felt was truly his own. He says it as his code is being deleted. I doubt he has the energy to lie at that point, and the fact that his data is midway through being deleted might mean his final moments are the most free of outside influence he’s ever been. Something to think about. Might want to look at what exactly is being deleted according to the command prompt in the secret/true ending. And I did that. And disappointingly at first a lot of it was filler. Like the membership form and “kinitoTextToSpeach.pck” were deleted many times

But then something interesting happened

Databases labeled with names.

Many of them. You are not Kinito’s first attempt at friendship. But considering his desperation I don’t think his many previous attempts went all that well either.

And by the time Kinito makes the claim that all he ever wanted was to be your friend?

Sonny’s gone.

Kinito is speaking for himself when he says all he wanted was to be friends.

So… Kinito the axolotl, Sam the sea anemone, and Jade the jellyfish.

Can I talk about the choice of species here? Because the first thing I notice when I look at this trio is that Kinito is not like the others in a lot of ways.

There’s the obvious fact that his name lacks alliteration, but Kinito is also the only vertebrate. I don’t know if that’s a coincidence or a metaphor for the others being “spineless” in some way, or just a way of showing Kinito as other and not quite fitting. Or that he’s more “complex” as jellyfish and anemones… literally do not have brains.

But the first thing I noticed is that an axolotl is exclusively a freshwater creature. Meanwhile Sam is a sea anemone, and… well, freshwater jellyfish exist… sort of? They’re called jellyfish and are functionally jellyfish but taxonomically they’re not “true jellyfish”. A lot of non-jellyfish creatures pretend to be jellyfish it’s a whole thing.

The point is that Kinito is separated from his friends. He is not built for the same world they are. Sam and Jade are marine invertebrates, and Kinito is a freshwater amphibian. Sam and Jade are characters in a flash game with actual voices, and Kinito is a virtual assistant spyware that uses tts.

Despite bearing his name, the world of the “Kinito Crew” is not built for him.

And when he’s able to make his own world? That’s not built for him either. It’s built for you. The only environment you can pick that involves water is a remote island, which again… saltwater. Not for Kinito.

He adapts to you. So he wants what you want, right? He spends all his time learning everything he can about you, after all. What has he ever learned about himself?

What would a world built for Kinito even look like?

#disturbing imagery #just in case for the Sam thing #Come to think of it I wonder if Sam’s name is a reference to Microsoft Sam #kinitopet #kinito the axolotl #sam the sea anemone #jade the jellyfish #*chatter chatter*#long post

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