#fandom problem 6988

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Fandom Problem #6988:

i miss when proshippers didn't include fucking PEDOPHILES and ZOOPHILES into their community because "oh they're just misunderstood quirky queers :((" and/or "they're disordered they can't help how they sexualize REAL LIFE children and animals :((" and/or "if we don't accept them they're more likely to offend, they need a safe space/community so they don't rape children and animals :(("

like i am no longer a proshipper because of this bullshit, i am still anti censorship and harrassment but FUCK being in a pedo friendly community

pedophiles and the likes can seek therapy and learn how to how to not sexualize children and animals, they can find their safe space/community offline and in group therapy supervised by a therapist so they're not normalizing sexualizing kids to each other, and if they're really doomed to offend if they don't feel welcome by others then they were always going to offend! that's just "oh her skirt was too short i can't help it" rape culture bullshit!!

"pro para" my ass, you're all just fucking pro pedo

"oh but what about paraphiles that aren't about children/animals/etc?? you're anti them, huh??"

pro kink covers that without including pedophiles! age play, pet/animal play, cnc, all of those and the paraphilas that may center around them are covered by being pro kink, the only difference between pro para and pro link is one community accepts pedophiles and the other does not—i am pro kink all the fucking way, but pro paras and their precious wiwwle pedos uwu can go kick rocks until their toes break

you all are just providing antis right, that all proshippers are just pedophiles and pedophile defenders who want to normalize pedophilia

you all are fucking sick

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www.tumblr.com/damnfandomproblems/771776551418232832/fandom-problem-6988-i-miss-when-proshippers

Caption seriously needed. (If I have to read this, so should everyone)

Now anon what did I do to sent that lol

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The Court Motel

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2RRdvEw

by ennui_ephemera

Andrew is the unfortunate owner of a haunted motel, Kevin is the shiny, new detective looking for Nathaniel Wesninski, and Neil is caught somewhere in between.

Words: 6988, Chapters: 1/3, Language: English

Fandoms: All For The Game - Nora Sakavic

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Categories: M/M

Characters: Andrew Minyard, Neil Josten, Nicky Hemmick, Aaron Minyard, Kevin Day

Relationships: Neil Josten/Andrew Minyard

Additional Tags: background Kevin/Jean, ghost!neil, detective!kevin, neil is technically dead but it's not really a problem, andrew said ghost boyfriend rights, this is kind of a murder mystery but not really, it's also pretty soft, hot kevin day rights, Happy Ending, POV Alternating, nathan wesninski is mentioned but never appears, tags to be updated

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/2RRdvEw

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by leontina (Leontina)

Gellert Grindelwald is a figure skater turned ice hockey player, now retired and mentoring his student, Harry Potter. Everything is fine, until Harry gets a crush on one of the new figure skaters at the ice rink, Tom Riddle. That wouldn't be a problem, if only Tom's mentor wasn't Albus Dumbledore--Gellert's one and only love before they separated twenty-five years previous.

Words: 6988, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: M/M

Characters: Gellert Grindelwald, Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter, Tom Riddle

Relationships: Albus Dumbledore/Gellert Grindelwald, Harry Potter/Tom Riddle

Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Muggle, Alternate Universe - Modern Setting, Reunions, Getting Back Together, Ice Skating, Alternate Universe - Skating, Mentors, Romance, Kissing

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About 6988: (TW for sexual assault, pedophilia, death threat mentions, and zoophilia)

You got brainwashed by antis. Antis have been the ones being exposed as pedophiles and even defended them. The anti lolicon people have stuff behind EDP445 because he said lolicon is pedophilia. For those who don’t know, EDP445 is a disgraced YouTuber who was caught TWICE trying to meet up a minor for sex. Once was a guy pretending to be a 13 year old girl, twice is where he tried to meet a real life 16 year old and sexted her. He SOMEHOW got a platform again.

There are actual pedophile rings on Twitter with adults meeting actual minors and using codes and emojis to hide what is actually happening, a proshipper pointed this out, and an anti was actively looking the other way and instead focused all of their attention on what the proshipper liked in fiction. Imagine that someone points out a pedophile ring and you see someone looking the other way because they saw someone’s taste in fiction and instead put 100% of their focus on that and not children being groomed and social media.

I have seen antis get caught being creeps. One anti was sexually harassing an ex partner while they were 18 and she was 15. Another anti who is a horror themed lewd V-Tuber (ironic) interacted with minors from ages 14 to 17 years old. Idc if you knew the minors as friends or if you’re 18, you should not be interacting with minors as a NSFW account.

I’ve also seen antis ENCOURAGE proshippers, who they THINK are “pedophiles” to go hurt real children. I’ve also seen them tell people to kill themselves over fiction. I’ve seen an anti tell a recovering self harm addict to “relapse.” I’ve seen too many antis tell sexual assault victims that they “deserved their abuse,” or they invalidated them.

Antis were also the reason why a non-binary artist I liked get ran off the internet all over what? A yucky incest ship? Seriously? THAT is the reason why they get ran off the Internet, meanwhile actual pedophiles still have platforms or have been given platforms?

Antis are also the reason why most fanfic writers quit because they don’t like the content they write.

Antis have been racist to said fanfic writers. Particularly, a south Asian writer who wrote dark fetish content who used dark content as a coping mechanism.

I’ve also seen an anti who is another V-Tuber get exposed for being a rapist, as they repeatedly attempted to have sex with an ex partner against their will while they were drunk and they ONLY stopped when their partner started crying. They also got off to their ex’s photos without their consent as well and cheated on their partner by sexting a minor.

Also, antis were strangely very quiet when it came to infamous zoophile Kero the Wolf coming back as a V-Tuber. For those who don’t know, I’m sorry for the horrors I’m about to tell you. Kero the Wolf was a part of a few zoosadist and zoophilia rings and even sexually abused his OWN DOG. Then, he made a half-assed apology (like that will ever reverse the damage he did to those poor animals and his own dog…) went into hiding for a very long time, then came back as a V-Tuber model and used a voice changer. Antis have not talked about this guy, and yet it’s the people who can separate fiction from reality (aka, proshippers) who spoke up about him.

THE LIST GOES ON. Do you STILL want to paint Proshippers as the “bad guys” and Antis as the “good guys” here? If you still think Proshippers are bad even after I tell you all of this, then idk what to tell you.

I don’t label myself as a proshipper. Because I think the label is stupid. Back then, we called it, “mind your own business,” and “Don’t like? Don’t look.” But hey, because of the state of the internet from 2016 to now, those labels and the ongoing “proshipper vs anti” discourse will still continue because we’re gonna keep letting it continue.

Posting as a response to a previous problem.

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I can never really wrap my head around this pro-paraphilia discourse. I think it's because a lot of people apply a total blanket pro-para or anti-para stance to the entire concept of paraphilias as a whole...which is just nonsensical to me? There are literally SO many different paraphilias, and tons of them are completely harmless. The number of paraphilias that are genuinely vanilla and common is so high that most people don't even know that they are actually paraphiles. Because everything from "liking female breasts" to "liking chubby people" to "liking buff/muscular guys" to "liking people with pretty hands" to "liking big butts" to "liking trans people" are all classified as paraphilias. Do you like vampires or werewolves? That's a paraphilia. Do you like fictional characters? That's a paraphilia. When you look at how many paraphilias there actually are, it's a safe bet that the vast majority of people on this hellsite are paraphiles. They just don't know it.

Obviously, not every paraphilia is harmless. There are harmful paraphilias that can only be practised in controlled role-playing settings with the consent of a partner (like cnc/rape kinks, age play/ddlg, etc) but as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult then it's all good. And then on the VERY far end of the spectrum there's things like "The big three" which is what most people automatically think of when they hear the word "paraphile" - and that's probably why so many people react to the topic with such extreme aggression and black-and-white thinking. Paraphilias are more nuanced than just "are you pro-para or anti-para" because treating it as an all-or-nothing thing means you have to throw people who like anime characters or big boobs in with pedophiles and necrophiliacs, as if they are even remotely the same thing.

To me, the subject is a case of "man, I think it depends"

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At #6988, I am going to assume you are making this all up because nothing you said has anything to do with being a pro shipper and you have given no proof to your claims. Also antis have supported Kyle A. Carrozza before, so by your logic, all anti shippers are guilty of what he has been arrested for.

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6988:

I disagree strongly with OOP and I agree with you. I just want to explain something, since a few people have said they haven't seen what OOP is talking about: there are small, vanishingly small, groups of people on tumblr called "pro paraphiles", usually kids, who say things like it's okay to have paraphilias as long as you're no-contact (not necessarily bad, like, cool, get therapy, don't offend or hurt others, blah blah). And they usually call themselves proshippers too, since there's a "thoughts don't mean you're committing a crime" angle to both of those things. But the overlap between your run-of-the-mill proshipper and these kids is like 0.0001%, and most pro-para people from what I've seen are, frankly, just attention seeking like antis are. I've seen one incident where some of these "pro para" people tried to downplay an incident (whether it was even real is up for debate lol, since the screen grabs were easily faked and stuff), but that's definitely not anything to do with being proship. And like you said, antis hide behind the "I'm a safe space" and use that pretense to groom kids in much greater numbers. If OOP lets the "pro para" thing cloud their judgment of proshippers in general, when "pro para" is just a teensy, inconsequential thing that just so happens to sometimes be worn by kids who also loudly call themselves proshippers, that speaks volumes about their gaps in judgment.

Posting as a response to a previous problem.