#failed!fatal_error

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Hey it’s me oobleck sans fan number 5. So I showed one of my friends “oobleck sans” and they instantly started shipping them with nightmare sans because “they’re gooey sanses”. So I wanna know, would their dynamic work or flop? (So I know what to tell them the next time I get the chance to talk with them)

I did make a ship name for 'em, it's Oblivion lol

And most likely it'll flop

But im not saying it shouldn't let your imagination run wild

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Underverse 0.7 part 2 came out. I watched the premiere. I might do a funny voice dub when i go to my friends house soon. Spoilers below cut.

Holy shit. I admire Jakei’s lore with XGaster and Cross. It’s so well done. You can see in the fight in 0.6 (Nightmare + Killer Vs Dream + Cross) little dialogue lines under the main dialogue when cross’ eyes are purple. (similar to the characters like mettaton in the late xtale series) This therefore suggested that whenever Cross’ eyes are purple he’s being controlled by XGaster, despite the fact he hasn’t seen him in ages.

In the new episode, this has been confirmed. And Fatal_Error can SEE IT. he can see Cross’ code, and it was literally shown to us as a purple silhouette of Cross. We thought he was trying to kill Cross, but he was directing his attacks specifically to XGaster.

The final push that made me love the latter end of the episode is whenever Fatal_Error nearly succeeded but failed and essentially slaughtered Cross. Hell even the X (cross) card in front of XGaster was torn in half. Xgaster then teleported Cross to him and patched him up.

Realistically, if XGaster wanted to, he could just kill and bring back Cross repeatedly if he needed something from him. I mean, it is common for artists to torture their OC’s. Anyhow, great episode and the Sans X Geno shippers are filling the underverse tag right now.

(edit: this person made a good theory stating how in the new episode Ink’s eyelights are pink when he’s looking at cross or when he’s on screen. and i think you guys know the headcanons for ink and pink.)

(edit 2: oh yeah, they finally showed XChara. he’s not overwritten. yet. his expression makes the situation look incredibly angsty.)

[casualpeanutcollection]

November is becoming really harsh for me right now and I'm too anxious that I will fail my exam's so I will just leave my work here and disappear for a month or maybe more

I did research and collected information for 5 months and now I can finally present it 👇

I'll update this when the other chapters come out and for now just enjoy 🤲

[fatal-error-blog]

Welcome to the world, Towne! ^_^

Towne is a ship child between Lavender sans and Fatal_Error. He’s not gonna become part of the Fatal_Error story or anything, but the idea popped into my head and I just loved it waaay too much to not pursue it and have a little fun with it :) He’s a very sweet and friendly skeleton with a kind demeanor, and definitely gets his charismatic qualities from Lavender. Despite his friendly disposition people find him genuinely unsettling to be around, which while he definitely gets that from Fatal, is due to a peculiar phenomenon that he has no control over. The inspiration from Towne comes from the ‘Lavender Town Syndrome’ creepypasta from the older Pokemon games. If you’re familiar with it, then I’m sure you can guess what kind of phenomenon I might be talking about. When non-family members spend time just being around Towne...they begin to feel anxious and afraid. Even if there is no reason to be, they just feel this sense of unease and dread grow within them. The longer they stay, the more uncomfortable they become. They begin to hear things. They hear static.  They hear...music. Their panic grows and grows and eventually it consumes them and they go mad. They go absolutely crazy. Without fail, every time. And if you’re familiar with the creepypasta, then...you can guess how they try to cure their madness. BUT YEAH I LOVE THEM WITH MY WHOLE HEART and they are an excellent bean and I just defaulted to drawing them like, teenage-ish age? Maybe I’ll draw a cute younger version of them later, but for now I need to get back to work on the main story. But definitely expect more drawings in the future XD Lavender of course belongs to the glorious @naturetale-official ^_^

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Is there any canon ships for your characters like anti or oobleck or anyone else?

Canonly for Anti he was in a relationship with a classic!muffet but as of now he's single lol

For oobleck, nah. Bro's single too

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Another oobleck question, what would happen if we put oobleck sans in a blender, just out of curiosity

*blender breaks*

What's up with yall putting characters in blenders

[a-v-j]

"Does Anti_Error still sometime behave like Geno!Sans/Error!Sans, considering that in the Aftertale Comic, when Geno showed his soul to Sans, he mentioned: "You've probably noticed something odd. But couldn't place it, right? Maybe something missing? Or odd behaviours things you don't normally do? Maybe issue with memory? At least these are things I noticed.", which was actually shown as well after their encounter in part 5, where Sans started laughing about the meaningless of everything, before recovering and questioning where that came from."

"Since this leads to the second question, wouldn't Error!Sans/Geno!Sans's personality be much more powerful if Anti_Error is copying them, since they are linked to his soul and Sans was already sometimes acting like Geno. At least, maybe make him realize that he found something that was missing, but Anti wouldn't know what that would be because, he forgot most of his life."

"It would be interesting if the Geno!Sans/Error!Sans's personality could pull what Nightmare's one did, even if Ask Errors showed otherwise, maybe long usage of the copy or copying somebody like Recall and Hobo who are Anti's Geno theoretically would make this happen. And could Recall or Hobo force or erase memories from Anti's mind, like Geno was able in Aftertale: "Oh. Now you care about what's happening to Sans? Heh. If you must know. I'm making him relive your worst resets.""

"And lastly, since in the original Ask Error, Error was able to remember his past, would copying a normal Aftertale!Sans(Classic)/Geno!Sans make Anti remember?"

"Now, onto another topic, though this might be asking for spoilers even if the comic has been in hiatus for a long time, but from what we've seen in the MOE comic, why didn't MOE!Geno turn into MOE!Oobleck instead of MOE!Fatal_Error, since he only became aware of the player after his transformation into MOE!Fatal_Error, and his ending the timeline forever plan failed as well, so he had no reason to stick around. Your answer only explained how MOE!Geno was still there. Is the comic ever gonna be continued?"

"Anyway, if MOE!Error would be theoretically revived as a Classic!Sans of an Aftertale timeline, meaning he remember his entire life, and realize that MOE!Fatal_Error was Geno, what would he do at that point? Obviously, I think he would hate, dislike or at least never trust any other self, maybe some paranoia. Let's say he is revived before Chara/Frisk fall down so the resets cannot take his memory."

"Do you think he would even try to do something at that point, considering everything failed, so he would just let Frisk and Chara ran without interfering, or would he try to convince using his knowledge that Chara's personal vendetta is unjustified considering they have killed monster kind too many times to be considered punished for them killing the fallen humans? He could have seen a pacifist end as MOE!Error."

"And if by any chance, he would met Fatal, do you think he would even care at this point, knowing that HQ/MOE!Fatal_Error would kill him if he acted violently. Would he just pretend he never knew Fatal and move forward?"

"Does Anti_Error still sometime behave like Geno!Sans/Error!Sans, considering that in the Aftertale Comic, when Geno showed his soul to Sans, he mentioned: "You've probably noticed something odd. But couldn't place it, right? Maybe something missing? Or odd behaviours things you don't normally do? Maybe issue with memory? At least these are things I noticed.", which was actually shown as well after their encounter in part 5, where Sans started laughing about the meaningless of everything, before recovering and questioning where that came from."

nope! however, he does says he feel more familiarity with recall/hobo, pretty much that how far it extends

"Since this leads to the second question, wouldn't Error!Sans/Geno!Sans's personality be much more powerful if Anti_Error is copying them, since they are linked to his soul and Sans was already sometimes acting like Geno. At least, maybe make him realize that he found something that was missing, but Anti wouldn't know what that would be because, he forgot most of his life."

think it will only does so if the geno/error anti's copying is recall's/hobo's, but he never shifted into those form(and i dont think it'll really take over like how nightmare's did, sure it'll most likely come out from brief outbursts but it'll only pretty much it). we did see him turn to a geno one time, but it wasnt his geno(as so far as i can remember that is)

"It would be interesting if the Geno!Sans/Error!Sans's personality could pull what Nightmare's one did, even if Ask Errors showed otherwise, maybe long usage of the copy or copying somebody like Recall and Hobo who are Anti's Geno theoretically would make this happen. And could Recall or Hobo force or erase memories from Anti's mind, like Geno was able in Aftertale: "Oh. Now you care about what's happening to Sans? Heh. If you must know. I'm making him relive your worst resets.""

i think those that can only happen in the savescreen, or even if they can do that outside the said savescreen, recall doesnt have the need to(plus he doesnt know anti was his classic)/hobo doesnt even remember anti was the classic he tried to manipulated when he was geno or the fact he was geno-

"And lastly, since in the original Ask Error, Error was able to remember his past, would copying a normal Aftertale!Sans(Classic)/Geno!Sans make Anti remember?"

ever since working in the HQ, anti already knows how a geno's story goes, copying into one will only yield him the same info. sure, it might give him some familiar flashbacks but he has copied a handful of sanses that he sometimes mixes their memories with his, plus his geno's(which is now recall) had a slight different happy ending path than most geno's. so he'll need to copy his own geno's(in this case ecall) to have the most familiar head jingles, wont necessarily make him remember tho still

"Now, onto another topic, though this might be asking for spoilers even if the comic has been in hiatus for a long time, but from what we've seen in the MOE comic, why didn't MOE!Geno turn into MOE!Oobleck instead of MOE!Fatal_Error, since he only became aware of the player after his transformation into MOE!Fatal_Error, and his ending the timeline forever plan failed as well, so he had no reason to stick around. Your answer only explained how MOE!Geno was still there. Is the comic ever gonna be continued?"

moe!geno does split into moe!fatal(hq!fatal) and oobleck, it will pretty much happen on the next page of the most recent Margin of Error comic page but yknow, i have zero motivation to continue right now. moe!geno's already a bit aware theres something beyond frisk or chara but he hadnt confrrmed his hunched by then yet

"Anyway, if MOE!Error would be theoretically revived as a Classic!Sans of an Aftertale timeline, meaning he remember his entire life, and realize that MOE!Fatal_Error was Geno, what would he do at that point? Obviously, I think he would hate, dislike or at least never trust any other self, maybe some paranoia. Let's say he is revived before Chara/Frisk fall down so the resets cannot take his memory."

"Do you think he would even try to do something at that point, considering everything failed, so he would just let Frisk and Chara ran without interfering, or would he try to convince using his knowledge that Chara's personal vendetta is unjustified considering they have killed monster kind too many times to be considered punished for them killing the fallen humans? He could have seen a pacifist end as MOE!Error."

"And if by any chance, he would met Fatal, do you think he would even care at this point, knowing that HQ/MOE!Fatal_Error would kill him if he acted violently. Would he just pretend he never knew Fatal and move forward?"

the story went a bit differently, all i can say.

could i interest in you in other lores, like avjverse-originally-induced storylines, at this point it makes me think youre testing the canon-ness relatability of MOE to Aftertale. as you can see, im down to zero motivation with margin of error, therefore my focus isnt in that storyboard. dont get me wrong, id love people doing a neat analysis on my story but it looks like its more focus on the relatedness/crossreference-ness to aftertale than digging into the MOE story itself and those other non-aftertale plots it influenced(if youve picked up some hints), dont wanna sound picky or anything but this stack o' questions kinda brain-aching for me yknow?

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"I don't still understand why everyone is buffing Fatal so much compared to Error, considering both of them were Geno!Sans, just that one was a healthy one, and maybe even had more determination due to his experiments, while the other was a wounded, dying one. Anyway, understood, Fatal's code digging is more advanced, so moving forward."

"Because I've forgotten about the aspects of Anti-Error copying Nightmare's code, what makes somebody's code able to possess Anti-Error? Is it only high brute/magical force? And can Anti-Error throw out the code out of him, since with Anti-Nightmare V1, he needed auto to do it for him, since Nightmare's code took much control."

"Secondly, if my memory serves me right, HQ!Error is 1st Loop Classic Sans from the timeline 1st Loop Fatal_Error destroyed. Now, two question, firstly, shouldn't he become Anti-Error, it is not showed that he had similar thoughts like MOE!Classic/Any Geno!Sans, so he can turn into Error, plus his timeline was already destroyed. Secondly, don't Loops reset everything?"

"Though, I must say MOE!Classic has been set to fail, firstly MOE!Geno wanted him to witness his perspective of hell, so he forces him to become the next geno, and when he becomes what MOE!Geno wanted, which was an eraser to delete their timeline, MOE!Geno cannot admit the failure of his own actions ("This other me just kicked me out of existence"), despite that other me being a consequences of MOE!Geno, so he goes to hunt him as MOE!Fatal_Error and kill him, in Ask The Errors of this blog. Disclaimer: This is more of a hypothesis, since we didn't see MOE!Geno's transformation into MOE!Fatal_Error or MOE!Oobleck."

"Plus becoming Error!Sans seems to be more emotionally and mentally traumatizing, than becoming Fatal_Error!Sans, in one you spent so much going insane, in the other you just die. Also, why did MOE!Geno even become Fatal_Error, didn't he give up before? Wouldn't the fact that he is still alive show that his plan is worthless, and make him give up even more?"

"If he sees what Geno as Fatal_Error has done, actually remember his life, and still be alive, MOE!Error would probably roll in his grave. All that pain, and Chara is still playing with their friends as toys, and MOE!Geno as Fatal is having kids by using codes of his past self and alternative self."

"Lastly, Hobo vs Fatal, how would that go?"

"Because I've forgotten about the aspects of Anti-Error copying Nightmare's code, what makes somebody's code able to possess Anti-Error? Is it only high brute/magical force? And can Anti-Error throw out the code out of him, since with Anti-Nightmare V1, he needed auto to do it for him, since Nightmare's code took much control.

"Secondly, if my memory serves me right, HQ!Error is 1st Loop Classic Sans from the timeline 1st Loop Fatal_Error destroyed. Now, two question, firstly, shouldn't he become Anti-Error, it is not showed that he had similar thoughts like MOE!Classic/Any Geno!Sans, so he can turn into Error, plus his timeline was already destroyed. Secondly, don't Loops reset everything?"

ok, 'tis true that hq!error never went thru being geno before he became error, but he came from a genocide timeline(requirement for an anti_eror is for them to be classic and from a pacifist timeline) and the concept that his aftertale runs on was made before the reveal geno was error.

"Though, I must say MOE!Classic has been set to fail, firstly MOE!Geno wanted him to witness his perspective of hell, so he forces him to become the next geno, and when he becomes what MOE!Geno wanted, which was an eraser to delete their timeline, MOE!Geno cannot admit the failure of his own actions ("This other me just kicked me out of existence"), despite that other me being a consequences of MOE!Geno, so he goes to hunt him as MOE!Fatal_Error and kill him, in Ask The Errors of this blog. Disclaimer: This is more of a hypothesis, since we didn't see MOE!Geno's transformation into MOE!Fatal_Error or MOE!Oobleck."

at that time, geno wasnt really aware of everything and thought erasing their world is the ultimate solution. by the time moe!error found him again, geno already knew the truth, and that something brings back what is destroyed, hence failing miserably yet again after thinking they'll succeed

but that line is him admitting his failure, and this was a script back in 2016 so i just now realized it gives of a bit of another meaning than i intended

"Plus becoming Error!Sans seems to be more emotionally and mentally traumatizing, than becoming Fatal_Error!Sans, in one you spent so much going insane, in the other you just die. Also, why did MOE!Geno even become Fatal_Error, didn't he give up before? Wouldn't the fact that he is still alive show that his plan is worthless, and make him give up even more?"

he did die the first time and got their timeline destroyed as planned but his aftertale being set to a "loop", he was set back after a reset, no new geno was created since technically, he's still a character that can be resused. the only time a new geno would be generated if he cut himself off the game entirely, like deleted himself from the files

"If he sees what Geno as Fatal_Error has done, actually remember his life, and still be alive, MOE!Error would probably roll in his grave. All that pain, and Chara is still playing with their friends as toys, and MOE!Geno as Fatal is having kids by using codes of his past self and alternative self."

well thats a scenario i cant think of any ideas how that would go but thanksfully moe!error is no more by the time moe!fatal(now hq!fatal) decides to basically retire and start a family

"Lastly, Hobo vs Fatal, how would that go?"

ooh, 'nother hard one. lets say both arent retired yet

hobo has the most experience in combat since he's the very first error, no taking bout canon game mechanics EXP and LVS, im tired of that, we're going by AVJverse mechanics here. fatal can also be deadly in combat but he's lesser experienced. both can destroy another less experienced errors with ease. fatal's a hacker so that's an advantage. both can be calculating in their strategies. for temper, fatal is more prone to have a nerve hit, hobo mastered some technique's to control his, fatal can become impulsive and lose organization with his battle plan. and fatal's emotioanlly unstable and can be of advantage to hobo.

good luck calculating that for me, theyre retired here so i dun wanna go into them fightin no more

[a-v-j]

Ship idea Oobleck x Fatal error

They're amalgamating

[a-v-j]

I ship Oobleck with Orange

Now that's a rare pair

[a-v-j]

Yo, guys, ya still remember Oobleck in this drawing here? No? Welp, me neither Anyways! So, me and Brian(my brain) decided to resurface his existence again. For those who doesnt know who Oobleck is, everything ya need to know is up there but for clearer explanation, he’s Geno that got erased from existence by Error and failed to undelete himself so he never got to be Fatal_Error. And with a help of a reset, he got resurrected as an Amalgamate named by Alphys as “Non-newtonian fluid Sans” or “Oobleck” for short. He was respawned in the True Lab so he was thought to be one of the monsters who had fallen. I imagine he speaks in an eerie whisper or smth and the sound is like emanating from inside his skull. And sometimes, he speaks his thoughts all at once and it sound like there are multitude of voices like the one up there(he is saying “Papyrus? Where is he? Where is my brother?” btw) Kinda like how Fatal talks, or at least, how I see the way Fatal talks. When he talks like that, it can get pretty messy and incomprehensible

Undertale © TobyFox Geno!Sans © @loverofpiggies Oobleck concept © Me

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