#except the last one bc brittany really sucks
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The way the Euphoria fandom seems to revere Maddy, claim she can do no wrong and justify all her wrongdoings reminds me of the way people love Blair from Gossip Girl, Paris from Gilmore Girls and the unholy trinity from Glee. I am not going to lie and say I didn't enjoy these characters but I see fans praising them for bullying other characters and being mean and calling it "iconic" (most videos that are titled "the unholy trinity being iconic for x minutes 'straight' " are literally just montages of them bullying Rachel for no reason) and twisting every single situation so that they look like the victim and everyone else looks evil (I saw a Reddit thread about how Rory apparently ruined Paris's life by literally just existing and going to the same school).
Like no. All of these characters are deeply flawed people. Are they funny, iconic, stylish, entertaining to watch and well-written? Yes. But you can't seriously defend everything they do.
Blair was a classist and racist bully that was making everyone's life at her high school miserable and loved to use people as pawns in her twisted games with Chuck, constantly slut shamed her so called best friend and belittled her intelligence.
Paris was terrorizing Brad and Rory for no reason and cheated on her boyfriend and dumped him on his birthday over the phone.
Quinn, Santana and Brittany were also bullies that cheated on almost every single guy they dated and were super hypocritical about it. Quinn went as far as to lie to her boyfriend that her unborn child is his even though it was his best friend's and Brittany went even further- she outed Santana TWICE (the second time being to the entire Internet) and then leaked their sex tape (pressumably when they were both underage) and didn't even apologize for it once because she really didn't see anything wrong with her actions
But Maddy is probably even worse than all of these. In the very first season she sent an innocent guy to jail for assaulting here to cover up for her shitty abusive boyfriend. Then she seemingly wanted to leak Jules's sextape even though Jules was a minor. She is far from innocent. Did Cassie cross the line by hooking up with her ex just a few weeks after they broke up? Yes, best friends don't do that to each other. But best friends are also supposed to be there for each other and Maddy wasn't there for Cassie- she ignored her when she wanted to ask for advice about her pregnancy, hijacked the entire conversation and made it all about her. Then she went on to ignore all her cries for help throughout season 2. She saw Cassie wrapping a balloon around her neck while being wasted and wrote it off as: "when she drinks, it's tragic".
So no, I really do not think Cassie deserved to be beaten up by Maddy, they were both pretty bad friends to each other and this blind praising of mean girl characters needs to stop.
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booklindworm · 3 years ago
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A rant against Karen Traviss' understanding of history and her FAQ answers
Did you base the Mandalorians on the Spartans?
<cite> No. I didn't. </cite> Fair enough.
<cite> I really wish history was taught properly - okay, taught at all - in schools these days, because history is the big storehouse that I plunder for fiction. It breaks my heart to hear from young readers who have no concept even of recent history - the last fifty years - and so can't see the parallels in my books. You don't have to be a historian to read my novels, but you'll get a lot more out of them if you explore history just a little more. Watch a history channel. Read a few books. Visit some museums. Because history is not "then" - it's "now." Everything we experience today is the product of what's happened before. </cite> Yeah, I do to. Please, Ms Traviss, go on, read some books. Might do you some good. And don't just trust the history channels. Their ideas about fact-checking differ wildly.
<cite> But back to Mandos. Not every military society is based on Sparta, strange as that may seem. In fact, the Mandos don't have much in common with the real Spartans at all. </cite> You mean apart from the absolute obsession with the military ["Agoge" by Stephen Hodkinson], fearsome reputation ["A Historical Commentary on Thucydides" by David Cartwright], their general-king ["Sparta" by Marcus Niebuhr Tod], the fact that they practically acted as mercenaries (like Clearch/Κλέαρχος), or the hyper-confidence ("the city is well-fortified that has a wall of men instead of brick" [Plutarch, Life of Lycurgus])...
<cite> A slightly anarchic, non-centralized, fightin' people? Sounded pretty Celtic to me. Since I went down that path, I've learned more about the Celts (especially the Picts), and the more I learn, the more I realise what a dead ringer for Mandos they are. But more of how that happened later... </cite>
The Celtic people are more than one people, more than one culture. Celtic is a language-family! In the last millennium BC nearly every European ethnic group was in some ways Celtic, and they were not one. Later, after the Germanic tribes (also not one people, or a singular group) moved westwards, the Celtic cultures were still counted in the hundreds. Not only Scotland was Celtic! Nearly all of Western Europe was (apart from the Greek and Phoenician settlers on the Mediterranean coasts). The word “Celts” was written down for the first time by Greek authors who later also used the word “Galatians”. The Romans called these people “Gauls”, and this word was used to describe a specific area, bordered by the Atlantic Ocean, the Cévennes and the Rhine: “Gaul”. So the Celts, the Galatians and the Gauls were all part of the same Celtic civilisation. "Celts, a name applied by ancient writers to a population group occupying lands mainly north of the Mediterranean region from Galicia in the west to Galatia in the east [] Their unity is recognizable by common speech and common artistic traditions" [Waldman & Mason 2006] Mirobrigenses qui Celtici cognominantur. Pliny the Elder, The Natural History; example: C(AIUS) PORCIUS SEVERUS MIROBRIGEN(SIS) CELT(ICUS) -> not just one culture "Their tribes and groups eventually ranged from the British Isles and northern Spain to as far east as Transylvania, the Black Sea coasts, and Galatia in Anatolia and were in part absorbed into the Roman Empire as Britons, Gauls, Boii, Galatians, and Celtiberians. Linguistically they survive in the modern Celtic speakers of Ireland, Highland Scotland, the Isle of Man, Wales, and Brittany." [Celtic Culture: a historical encyclopedia. by John Koch] "[] the individual CELTIC COUNTRIES and their languages, []" James, Simon (1999). The Atlantic Celts – Ancient People Or Modern Invention. University of Wisconsin Press. "All Gaul is divided into three parts, one of which the Belgae live, another in which the Aquitani live, and the third are those who in their own tongue are called Celtae, in our language Galli." [Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico] <= I had to translate that in school. It's tedious political propaganda. Read also the Comentarii and maybe the paper "Caesar's perception of Gallic social structures" that can be found in "Celtic Chiefdom, Celtic State," Cambridge University Press. The Celtic tribes and nations were diverse. They were pretty organized, with an academic system, roads, trade, and laws. They were not anarchic in any way. They were not warriors - they were mostly farmers. The Celts were first and foremost farmers and livestock breeders
The basic economy of the Celts was mixed farming, and, except in times of unrest, single farmsteads were usual. Owing to the wide variations in terrain and climate, cattle raising was more important than cereal cultivation in some regions.
Suetonius addressing his legionaries said "They are not soldiers—they're not even properly equipped. We've beaten them before." [not entirely sure, but I think that was in Tacitus' Annals]
Regarding the Picts, in particular, which part of their history is "anarchic"? Dál Riata? the Kingdom of Alba? Or are you referring to the warriors that inspired the Hadrian's Wall? Because no one really knows in our days who the fuck they were. The Picts’ name first appears in 297 AD. That is later. <cite> Celts are a good fit with the kind of indomitable, you-can't-kill-'em-off vibe of the Mandos. Reviled by Rome as ignorant savages with no culture or science, and only fit for slaughter or conquest, the Celts were in fact much more civilized than Rome even by modern standards. </cite> That's how the Romans looked at pretty much every culture that wasn't Greek, Roman, Phoenician, Egyptian, or from Mesopotamia (read, if you want, anything Roman or Greek about the Skyths, the Huns, Vandals, Garamantes...).
<cite> They also kicked Roman arse on the battlefield, and were very hard to keep in line, so Rome did what all lying, greedy superpowers do when challenged: they demonized and dehumanized the enemy. (They still used them in their army, of course, but that's only to be expected.) </cite> They were hard to keep in line, but they most definitely did not kick Roman arse on the battlefield. Roman arse was kicked along the borders of the Roman Empire, such as the Rhine, the Danube, the Atlas mountains, etc. And mostly by actually badly organized, slightly anarchic groups, such as the Goths or the Huns (BTW the Huns were not a Germanic people, even though early 20th century British propaganda likes to say so). Though they were also decisively stopped by the Parthians. Who were very organized. Ah well. <cite> While Rome was still leaving its unwanted babies to die on rubbish dumps - a perfectly acceptable form of family planning to this "civilisation" - and keeping women as chattels devoid of rights, the barbarian Celts had a long-standing legal system that not only gave women what we would think of as equal rights, but also protected the rights of the elderly, children, and the disabled. They had a road network across Europe and worldwide trade long before the Romans ever got their act together. And their science - well, their astronomical calculations were so sophisticated that it takes computers to do the same stuff today. </cite> See? You even say yourself that they weren't actually anarchic. Also you're not completely right: 1. women (of most Celtic cultures, with one notable exception being the Irish) were not allowed to become druids, e.g. scientists, physicians, priests, or any other kind of academics, so they did not have equal rights. Also, as in other Indo-European systems, the family was patriarchal. 2. the roads they had were more like paths, and did not span the entirety of Europe; the old roads that are still in use are nearly all of them Roman. Had the Celtic inhabitants of Gallia or Britannia built comparable roads, why would the Romans have invested in building a new system on top? 3. world-wide? Yeah, right. They traded with those who traded with others and so were able to trade with most of southern Eurasia and northern Africa, as well as few northern parts (Balticum, Rus), but that's (surprise) not the whole world. 4. most people use computers for those calculations you mention because its easier. It's not necessary. I can do those calculations - give me some time to study astronomy (I'm a math major, not physics) and some pencils and paper. 5. and - I nearly forgot - the kids didn't die. That was a polite fiction. The harsh truth is that most Roman slaves were Romans... <cite> So - not barbarians. Just a threat to the empire, a culture that wouldn't let the Pax Romana roll over it without a fight. (Except the French tribes, who did roll over, and were regarded by the Germanic Celts [...]) </cite> WTF Germanic Celts? What are you smoking, woman? Isn't it enough that you put every culture speaking a language from the Celtic family in one pot and act as if they were one people, now you have to mix in a different language-family as well? Shall we continue that trend? What about the Mongolian Celts, are they, too, proof that the Celts were badass warriors? I think at this point I just lost all leftover trust in your so-called knowledge. <cite> [...] as being as bad as the Romans. Suck on that, Asterix... </cite> Asterix was definitely a Celt, and unlike the British Celts, he was not a citizen of the Roman Empire.
<cite> Broad brush-stroke time; Celts were not a centralized society but more a network of townships and tribes, a loose alliance of clans who had their own internal spats, but when faced with some uppity outsider would come together to drive off the common threat. </cite> They might have tried, but they didn't. The first and only time a Celtic people really managed to drive off some uppity outsider would be 1922 following the Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1921*. The fact that France, Spain, Portugal speak Romance languages and the British (or Irish) Isles nearly uniformly speak English should be proof enough.
*Unless you count Asterix. <cite> You couldn't defeat them by cutting off the head. There was no head to cut off. </cite> You mean unlike Boudica and Vercingetorix. Oh wait. Tacitus, in his Annals, said that Boudica's last fight cost 80,000 Britons and 400 Romans their lives. He was probably exaggerating. But it definitely stopped much of the British resistance in its tracks. <cite> To the centralized, formal, rather bureaucratic Romans, for whom the city of Rome was the focus of the whole empire, this was a big does-not-compute. The Celts were everything they didn't understand. And we fear what we don't understand, and we kill what we fear. </cite> While that is totally true, it's also completely off the mark. The Romans demonized the druids, not every Celt, and they were afraid of what was basically an academic network. That had nothing to do with war. <cite> Anyway, Mandos....once I took a single concept - in this case, the idea of clans that operated on a loose alliance system, like the Celts - the rest grew organically. I didn't plan it out in detail from the start. </cite> That's really obvious. Maybe looking at some numbers and remembering that you weren't planning a small, local, rural, medieval community would have helped, too. I mean lets have a look at, say, Scotland (since you specifically mentioned the Picts): they still have less than 6 mio. people all together, and that's today. Mandalore is a sector. A sector of Outer Space with at least 2000 inhabited planets. How do you think that translates? It doesn't. <cite> I just asked myself what a culture of nomadic warriors would value, how they would need to operate to survive, and it all grew inexorably by logical steps. The fact that Mandos ended up as very much like the Celts is proof that the technique of evolving a character or species - find the niche, then work out what fits it - works every time. It creates something very realistic, because that's how real people and real societies develop. </cite> Celtic people were usually not nomadic! And, once again, non of them were predominantly warriors! It's really hard to be a nomadic farmer. I believe the biggest mistake you made, Ms Traviss, is mixing up the Iron Age (and earlier) tribes that did indeed sack Rome and parts of Greece, and that one day would become the people the Romans conquered. And apart from the Picts they really were conquered. <cite> So all I can say about Mandos and Spartans is that the average Mando would probably tell a Spartan to go and put some clothes on, and stop looking like such a big jessie. </cite>
I'd really like to see a Mando – or anyone – wearing full plate without modern or Star Wars technology in Greece. Happy heatstroke. There is a reason they didn't wear a lot (look up the Battle of Hattîn, where crusaders who didn't wear full helmets and wore chainmail* still suffered badly from heat exhaustion). [Nicolle, David (1993), Hattin 1187: Saladin's Greatest Victory] *chainmail apparently can work like a heatsink CONCLUSION You're wrong. And I felt offended by your FAQ answers. QUESTION You're English. You're from England. A group - a nation - that was historically so warlike and so successful that by now we all speak English. A nation that definitely kicked arse against any Celtic nation trying to go against them (until 1921, and they really tried anyway). A nation that had arguably the largest Empire in history. A nation that still is barbaric and warlike enough that a lost football game has people honestly fearing for their lives.
Also, a Germanic group, since you seem to have trouble keeping language-families and cultures apart. If we were to talk about the family, we could add on the current most aggressively attacking nation (USA) plus the former most aggressively attacking nations (the second and third German Reich), also the people who killed off the Roman Empire for good (the Goths and Visigoth), the original berserkers (the Vikings) and claim at the very least the start of BOTH WORLD WARS. Why did you look further?
Some other sources:
Histoire de la vie privée by Georges Duby and Philippe Ariès, the first book  (about the antiquity) I read it translated, my French is ... bad to non-existent
The Day of the Barbarians: The Battle That Led to the Fall of the Roman Empire  (about the Huns) by Alessandro Barbero
If you speak Dutch or German, you might try
Helmut Birkhan: Kelten. Versuch einer Gesamtdarstellung ihrer Kultur, Verlag der Österreichischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, Wien
Janssens, Ugo, De Oude Belgen. Geschiedenis, leefgewoontes, mythe en werkelijkheid van de Keltische stammen. Uitgeverij The House of Books
DISCLAIMER
I’m angry and I wrote this down in one session and thus probably made some mistakes. I’m sorry. Or maybe I’m not sorry. I’m still angry. She can’t know who reads her FAQ and at least two of her answers (on her professional website) were offensive to the reader.
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gaymooshroom-archive · 3 years ago
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Please, I need to know, how would glee do wilbur/lovejoy?
OKAYYY ive been waiting all day to have enough time to answer this. I AM SO PUMPED im not gonna do every wil/lovejoy song but ill try to get the highlights
jubilee line would be a rachel solo and it would sound awful (it's like how the only exception by paramore sounded really weird when she did it). instead of the arc where she leaves funny girl for the tv show she would go to london to originate a role on the west end and it would be a huge flop and she'd sing this while crying on the subway on her way to the airport. they'd raise the key so she could belt it. i cannot emphasize how much this cover would suck.
i want to shoehorn your sister was right into this but none of the glee characters have sisters bc ryan murphy hates women.... hmm....... im retconning emma so she has a sister. and schue sings this while playing guitar alone in his apartment after he kisses shelby.
your new boyfriend is DEFINITELY in there somewhere.... i established in my last ask that i think sam should have a twitch streamer endgame (he is the punz of the gleeverse). so im giving this one to sam. idk who he sings it about its probably a temporary love interest introduced for like half a season in new york. its not about mercedes bc samcedes deserves better. the love interest's new boyfriend is Obviously named jared. he probably sings it live on twitch and she thinks its sweet and they get back together for like 5 episodes and break up for unrelated reasons.
artie does sex sells in s2 because he's trying to slut-shame brittany after she breaks up with him (ARTIE FANS DNI!). it's a glee club assignment and it makes everyone profoundly uncomfortable but the band goes pretty hard. he changes the pronouns so its about santana and then santana does a Santana rant at him.
i feel like blaine should get iafiap..... just bc blaine is My special little guy. and i want him to get one of these songs. ryan murphy also loves blaine and will give him any song without having to justify it so im employing that tactic. it's after he starts at nyada and while he's fighting with kurt (they have that Weird phase when they're together in new york) and maybe kurt has been a little too flirty with someone else again like that random dude in s3 when blaine sang its not right but its okay? in order to justify the second verse.
SANTANA GETS PERFUME. it's about brittany and sam being together after she and brit break up in s4. she visits lima and reconnects w brittany and finds out they're dating and then sings this and its fucking epic and perfect.
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angelhummel · 4 years ago
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These are just my thoughts on every s6 episode I watched in the last two days, which is all of them that aren’t already cemented at the bottom of my ranking list
Jagged Little Tapestry - Bro this episode fucking sucks. The Becky stuff is okay and it’s nice that they’re laying the groundwork for Coach Beiste’s trans storyline I guess. But goddamn Brittany and Santana are such fucking annoying and horrible bitches and even Quinn is being mean to Tina for no reason?? The songs fucking slap but my god, at what cost??
What The World Needs Now - Okay I know I like Rachel more than I have before but this episode is still half a Rachel Berry ego stroking parade so I hate it on principle. It’s better than the other ego stroking episodes but still. And the other half’s main focus is Brittany and Brittana so... yeah the episode isn’t for me (: Also the music isn’t even good sooo low points all around
Transitioning - I have my issues with the Coach Beiste trans storyline in general. I think it was handled really well. But it’s also probably my least favorite part of this ep, mostly bc it puts the focus onto Will and how he has to teach tolerance to his kids. Pass. But Unique is here, yay, she sounds and looks amazing. And I really like the whole party at Rachel’s place. Especially the Klaine duet. And kiss. And I get all weepy when they’re putting the photos in the scrapbook. It’s such a sweet scene
A Wedding - Obviously I like the Klaine stuff. Love a good wedding dress montage. The vows were sweet and I enjoyed Santana’s reunion with her abuela. But I still hate the things I hate and I will never get over Klaine’s ugly double wedding in a BARN. Also the otp hats that I literally never remember until she pulls them out. Also also the music isn’t good except for Mercedes’s number
Child Star - Could do without all the body shaming and the fat = lazy at the beginning but I don’t hate the episode. It’s weird but funny. I love Myron lmao. I adored it when watching the episodes in order but watching them randomly and getting to this one, it’s just okay. But I just love the newbies and seeing them interact and all that good stuff.
We Built This Glee Club - I mean same problems with everything else in s6 in that there’s literally no point buuut at least it’s fun?? I laughed out loud during the glitter bomb scene and had plenty of fun for the rest of it. Their numbers at sectionals are all so good. And the ending makes me cry so it gets points for that
2009 - It’s fine but it’s the most unnecessary shit in a season full of unnecessary shit. Just retconning literally everything and adding stuff that we didn’t need. And the gay, poc, and disabled characters being the ones who have to open their hearts and minds and be more accepting of the cishet white able bodied male that DOESN’T EVEN WANNA BE IN THE CLUB for literally like half of his time in the club. Also their shining compliments of Finn being like “he doesn’t call me fat” and “he let me take off my jacket before letting me be thrown in the dumpster” like yeah wow what a guy. Also Rachel being every kind of bigot imaginable and not getting checked once and also getting all the solos bc she “needs them more” like get the fuck out lmao. That being said it still makes me cry and the cut to the pilot always gets me
Dreams Come True - I think this is the best finale in terms of where everyone ends up. But idk it’s just not what I want it to be. I wish it was 10+ years later. I wish we saw more than 5 people with their own flashforwards. I wish they didn’t cut out half of Klaine’s accomplishments in the flashfoward, and they got their scripted kiss after Daydream Believer. I don’t know. It’s an okay ep but it just doesn’t give me what I’d want from a series finale. But hey, could be worse :)
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handern · 5 years ago
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In regards to your post about wanting to tell stories: s'il vous plait, tell us one of the stories you used to tell at the castle! I don't know hardly anything about Arthurian mythology and I always want to learn but it's toooooo complicated looking stuff up online and I love the way you write and tell anecdotes! :) How many knights of the round table were there anyways?
(heavy breathing)
OK SO BUCKLE UP
1°) main thing to remember about arthurian legends is that it’s OLD AS BALLS and as it holds many references to celtic mythology and stuff, it probably dates from the celts themselves so contemporary or just a tad earlier (edit : I fucking wrote earlier instead of later lmao ayyye) than Cuchulain and co
every single generation re-told these tales and tried to make them fashionable again, so rather than ask how many knights were there, you have to wonder, who were the oldest characters (Key/Kay, Bedivere and Gawain are amongst the oldest and most well known, Morgan and Guenivere too) the easiest way to know is to look them up on wikipedia, if there’s one or two spellings of their names they’re very recent (late middle ages to renaissance), if there’s 10 different spellings and they have super powers, then they’re old as balls (Merlin Merzhin Menwyr etc… tho Merlin wasn’t part of the table round legends, he was a separate character who was added to the table later on)
SO for instance Gawain or Key change A LOT from a tale to another, bc fashion changed and the author therefore changed their character. Gawain is a solar hero, very close to most Celtic Solar HeroesTM (ie cuchulain or lug), his strength grew w the sun and his horse was magical, therefore he’s obv one of the oldest, and he had veeeeeery “barbaric” ways for a middle age HERO ie : running after all the chicks, drinking a lot and loving food, these are marks of a “pagan” hero rather of a middle ages one
Key, Arthur’s adoptive brother, had a much better role in earlier adaptation, he was a truther even if mean, he always said what he thought and always act as his honor dictated him to, but later in the middle ages they decided they needed a dumbass in the court and even later in one particular version he was even a traitor to Arthur, whereas in all the other ones he’s amongst the most faithful knights, even in contemporary versions where he’s a total fucking idiot w low honor.
I picked Key as an exemple bc he too has powers, which you won’t find in later additions of some knights, he could grow in seize, hold his breath for a fey days (I think it’s 3 days but might be 7 as both numbers are v common to find), he had a case of burning hands and most important, his sword has one of the powers that would later be given to Excalibur : if it cuts someone, that person will bleed to death. (reminds anyone of smth? Lugh’s lance that can never fail to kill? no? ok)
2°) every single auhtor wanted to make it so that “It Happened Near Me”, just like they made it “fashion” for their people, they made it happen near their people, so the debate “where did all these tales happen” is not a real debate, it happened wherever the author wanted it to happen so the people he was talking to would recognize the names and get a familia feel from them
3°) there a HUGE difference between the versions we told at the castle in Brocéliande and the versions the anglo-saxons have. Why? POLITICS.
Athurian legends were used as propaganda made by the Plantagenets to say “hey look, we’re descendants of king Arthur, here’s his family tree and we’re in it!! Look we even have his and Guenivere’s tomb here!!!!!” EXCEPT there was one lil issue in that the Saxons are BIG ENNEMIES of Arthur and co in the legend, so for the anglo-SAXONS it was a bit uh… Problematic. Bc in Brittany we say that Arthur went to Avalon to be healed, that he’s asleep and will come back one day to save us, but in England you can’t really say that he’s going to come back bc like uh, they’re kinda Saxons, that kinda sucks if Arthur will come back to kick their asses esp as the “saxons’ descendants” were still not really too liked in the country, to the point where a lil Arthur who should’ve been king got murdered a bit too quickly bc people started going “he’s our savior and will save us!!“ (I have to RESEARCH that part bc my memory is wonky and I know jack shit about england’s history sorry)
I’M GOING TO STOP THERE bc I could go on for hours, just one last thing about Morgan Le Fey’s character, just like I used to end my storytelling times, she used to be a very powerful fairy, living on the island of Avalon w her 7 sisters, she was not from Arthur’s family at all, she was fair and helped Arthur a few times. But then the middle ages came in, a powerful lady using magic wasn’t too fashionable (A WITCH??? HELPING ARTHUR??? yikes), so they decided to nerf her and then to make her a villain. At first she wasn’t trying to actively kill arthur, she thought she’d be much better than him on the throne. THEN about Mordred, he’s actually the son of her sister Ana or Morgause who married king Loth, it did not became a Big Thing accepted by everyone that Mordred was the son of Arthur and Morgane before the fucking XIXth century yeehaw
Next time I’ll make an essay on the Holy Grail and fucking Galahad bc it’s one of my favorite topics to scream about but this post is already way too long
also to answer your question which I absolutely failed to do : there are 350+ knights named w their coat of arms described in the whole fucking arthurian literature so 12 knights, my ass. It really depends which version you’re reading/ which version inspired most the person you’re reading from
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birdy-lady · 4 years ago
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thank you for asking, bc i have many thoughts about glee s4—i feel like it has some of the best and worst parts of glee? like im so glad rachel moves to ny, because there's like finally air in the room for tina, blaine, brittany etc, and i even enjoyed a lot of the finn arc (everything minus the shit with emma because anything involving will and emma i find so extremely unworthy of airtime. will could have never returned and this show would have been better for it.) (1/5)
and while i remember being like a huge britanna shipper as a sporadic, casual viewer, i genuinely believe that brit and sam are one of glee’s best pairings? like ive already expressed that i like sam way more than i expected, but he is like peak himbo and im so sad i didn’t notice before. truly tho, brittany is the best glee character imo. (2/5)
and BLAINE. BLAINE! so excited to see blaine in plots that aren’t entirely centered around kurt! (i like klaine, but up until this point blaine’s entire presence has just felt like an extension of kurt and im glad the show has progressed.) he is amazing, his friendship with sam is adorable, him and tina have such a ridiculous and perfect friendship, and he is not the new rachel, he is so much fucking better than rachel. (3/5)
i think most of the new characters introduced were meh but kitty and jake grew on me. most of the ny/nyada stuff was also meh—who thought vogue/com was a good plot line? brody was like average, but glee’s take on sex work was truly the last thing this world needed. i have many many thoughts about santana and quinn hooking up, but it mostly boils down to: quinn should have been written as queer, the writers are cowards, and i am so uninterested in straight college girls experimenting plots. (4/5)
and finally: the catfishing plot is garbage. (5/5)
as a postscript, thank you for letting me vent about glee. my roommates have stopped listening.
ok ok ok i don’t even know where to begin because YOU’VE MADE SOME POINTS!!!
i think i have to agree about the fact that s4 has the best and the worst. tbh it remains my least favourite season but i do like the fact that we got see others shine and it has some of the best performances? and girls (and boys) on film is a top tier episode in my opinion (every performance in that episode is excellent)
sam and brittany did have some very sweet moments together i have to agree! the fact that sam has been with almost everyone in the show (quinn, santana, mercedes, brittany, tina, rachel) and somehow it worked (except santana) that’s honestly impressive. also kurt and blaine’s crushes on sam were also very valid and believable.
BLAINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY FAVOURITEEEEEEE i’m so glad that you’re excited about his plot in s4. i feel like the [redacted] storyline overshadowed everything else in the season and i hate it because it was so OOC (also it’s something that 90% of the characters has done at some point in the show but with blaine it just gets overblown and i don’t like it) and you’re right it’s fun to see him as a character instead of an extension of kurt. and like i know a lot of people don’t like blaine as much in the later seasons and in some ways i agree that the writers did him dirty but i also think it sucks that people thought he got ruined when he started showing more vulnerability you know? idk like my opinions on every glee characters change all the time except for blaine i will love and defend him til the day I DIE. and true blaine is his own person he’s not the new rachel. also i have mixed feelings about his friendship with tina jabkdf like it was very sweet but then they did tina so dirty with the vapo scene. and yeah his friendship with sam? love it. the way sam was there for him after his breakup with kurt, the way blaine helped him with his body image issues. and i thought his crush on sam was really realistic and i like how sam reacted to it. he’s a good egg.
about the new characters i don’t wanna be rude but in my opinion that’s why s4 isn’t my fave? i never grew attached to them and i don’t think it was a good idea to make them the new quinn, rachel, finn, etc. the newbies in s6 are superior. and it’s weird because i really don’t like kitty (the thing she did to marley is unforgivable for me) but i remember kinda liking her near the end of s4 but i think it’s just because she’s the only one who really had a full arc in s4. jake i’m indifferent about him but i love his voice and he dances very well. jacob artist deserved better lmao
and yeah the catfishing plot if garbage, kitty making marley have an eating disorder is garbage.... what else is garbage in that season i know for sure there’s more jsbfnkgndg
and pls THANK YOU for venting to me about glee ajhbfsdkg i love hearing your thoughts and as you can see i also love to vent about it judging by the lenght of this reply. pls feel free to keep sending me your thoughts if you continue watching the show ajdhbsdkfj
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