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The Synergy Effect between music & dance for Nogizaka46 - interview with the choreographer LICO - playback from 'Dekopin' all the way to 'Cheat Day'! (EX-Taishu Magazine; 15.10.2024)

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LICO

Choreographer belonging to Dear.Pink.

In addition to Nogizaka46, she has also created choreography for Namie Amuro, Ayumi Hamasaki, AKB48 and others.

LICO-san is the choreographer for the songs that have added flair to Nogizaka's [latest] summers, last year's 'Ohitorisama Tengoku' and this year's 'Cheat Day'.

LICO-san, who's been in charge of Nogizaka46's choreography for no less than 10 years, looks back on the works she's choreographed and talks about the changes in Nogizaka46.

15.10.2024

"Whenever Asuka-san dances, the atmosphere completely changes."

Q: LICO-san, please tell us how you became a choreographer.

A: Since I graduated from acting school, I used to sing & dance to choreographies I'd created myself. As I was teaching Avex newcomers, I was asked to choreograph. I remember starting to work at around 18 years of age. After that, I started working as a choreographer for Nami Tamaki-san, Namie Amuro-san and Ayumi Hamasaki-san.

Q: Was AKB48 the first idol [group] you worked with?

A: Indeed. I think the first time was for Team B's 3rd Stage, 'Pajama Drive'. Afterwards, I was in charge of the entire thing for Team A's 6th Stage, 'Mokugekisha', and I began properly choreographing for idols.

Q: Even though they had back dancers, Namie Amuro-san and Ayumi Hamasaki-san both are solo singers, so wasn't it difficult to choreograph for AKB who fundamentally has 16 people [on stage at the same time]?

A: If anything, I rather liked coming up with formations for a large number of people. I enjoy thinking about things like 'Would it look nice if we did a canon* with this many people?'. Namie-san had a one-man-show image in a good way, but Hamasaki-san's had back dancers, which made it a whole production, while for AKB48 [the performance] is made up of strictly the members. As I kept on doing it, I thought to myself "Maybe I'm cut out for choreographing for idols". Precisely then is when I got the offer to choreograph for Nogizaka46.

[*T/N: canon (in dancing specifically) = choreographic form that reflects the musical form of the same name, in which individuals and groups perform the same movement/phrase beginning at different times. example of a canon in nogizaka's choreography ⬇️]

Q: Please tell us your first impression of Nogizaka46.

A: My first work for the group was 'Dekopin' (5th single coupling song), and I thought that both Shiraishi (Mai)-san and Hashimoto (Nanami)-san were SO cute that they came from a different dimension. At that time, there was this certain "I'm not sure how far can I go" hesitation, but either way, I was serious about working hard on coming up with something good.

Q: After 'Dekopin', which was the next song you choreographed?

A: It was 'Sekai de Ichiban Kodoku na Lover' (6th single coupling song). It's a dance-focused song, but the [individual] parts that make it up aren't that difficult. Since the lyrics are about feelings of love [peering through] in the midst of [acting] tough, I wanted to create an atmosphere of intense dancing while also making it look cute. For instance, the choreography during '心叫んで涙も拭わないまま (when my heart is screaming like this and my tears won't dry)' is one such case.

[choreo in question ⬇️]

Q: The A-side of the 7th single, 'Barrette', features the memorable choreography of Hori (Miona)-san, who had just joined the group as a 2nd generation member and was chosen as the center, walking down the path created by her seniors.

A: I had the image of Hori-san going out and away and not losing to her seniors, while living a strong life in an unsparing world.

[choreo in question ⬇️]

Q: What did you think about the 8th single's coupling song, 'Romance no Start'?

A: Since the song was also used in a commercial for Megashaki [= carbonated energy drink], I added some moves that gave off the impression of waking up.

Q: Are there any differences between working on an A-side and a coupling song?

A: Basically, there aren't any differences rooted in them being the A-side or a coupling song, it all just depends on the [sound/lyrics of the] song. Nevertheless, for the A-sides there's a lot of pressure, and I think there are expectations for it to look good and catch on. I think you get more freedom in the case of coupling songs.

Q: The A-side of the 10th single, 'Nandome no Aozora ka?', is one of Nogizaka46's royal road* songs.

A: I thought "It'll be difficult to make this song 'catchy'", so I had all sorts of discussions with everyone in the staff. The highlight of the song is the change in atmosphere during the chorus, from the skyward movement to the hook where they're counting on their fingers, all the way until the interlude.

[*T/N: royal road = an easy or straightforward procedure for achieving a goal; a procedure that requires little effort & a chord progression, IVᴹ⁷–V⁷–iii⁷–vi, common in japanese pop music.]

Q: Did the presence of the center, Ikuta Erika-san, have an impact on the choreography?

A: Ikuta-san's presence was decisive. Maybe it was because of the good upbringing she received from her parents, maybe it was her good environment, but Ikuta-san is overflowing with talent, yet very easy to approach also.

Q: You've also choreographed 'Boku no Shoudou' (the 3rd generation coupling song), but, what was your impression of the 3rd generation members?

A: When the 3rd generation came in, I got the impression that these girls had a strong desire to improve themselves. As they continued their activities, I started feeling like they were becoming more and more 'Nogizaka-like'.

Q: 'Boku no Shoudou' is an intense song.

A: At that time, even with the performance of headsets, handheld microphones were still the norm, so I wanted to create a choreo that would push people to their limits while holding a handheld microphone.

Q: Thanks to the impact of Nogizaka Koujichuu (TV Tokyo) also, the final facial expression of the center, Ito Riria-san, has been attracting attention for the past two years.

A: I didn't expect her to be so proactive. I think that's what's so amazing about her. For 'Sazanami wa Modoranai' (32nd single coupling song), I incorporated choreography that brought out the most of Riria's facial expressions and told her "Since you're in the center, I want to see an expression with a feeling that seems ripped straight out of 'Boku no Shoudou'".

Q: You were in charge of the choreography for the first 4th generation song, 'Kiss no Shuriken' (included on the 4th album).

A: From the very moment the 4th generation joined, I thought they were 'Nogizaka-like'. It might've been the aura of Endo (Sakura)-san that made me feel that way. Given that the girls couldn't dance all that well yet, we decided to make the 'Kiss no Shuriken' simple and cute, from finger hearts to throwing shurikens. When you get to the 'Shushushushushu' lyrics, there's nothing else you can do but throw shurikens (laughs).

Q: When you first heard the 4th generation song 'I see...' (25th single coupling song), did you think it was going to be buzzworthy?

A: I never could've guessed that it was going to cause such a buzz. For the choreo, I just wanted to convey the joy I'd felt when hearing the song. I was getting more and more excited myself when making the choreography. So much so, that during a concert I was dancing together with them (laughs).

Q: The representative pose is done over and over again, isn't it.

A: I included the movement for 'I love you' in sign language. Precisely because of its simplicity, I aimed for a choreography that everyone could dance to. To say the least, Kaki (Haruka)-san's smile really was invaluable.

Q: Wilderness World (26th single coupling song) was a dance song with (Saito) Asuka-san in the center.

A: If it was Asuka-san who was in the center, then I wanted her to dance. Plus, I wanted to make the formation look beautiful. I also incorporated some sniper-like moves to tie-in with the 'Knives Out' tie-up.

Q: Please tell us about Asuka-san's charm.

A: No matter what she does, she's great at showing it off, and whenever Asuka-san dances, the atmosphere completely changes. When Asuka-san's in the center, I feel like I want to make the choreography difficult. I think 'Fukayomi' (29th single coupling song) with Asuka-san in the center was difficult for the members, too.

"What I put emphasis on is expressing the lyrics, and the center."

Q: 'Gomen ne Fingers Crossed' (27th single A-side) features a striking fingers-crossed pose.

A: While I was wondering how to make that pose look beautiful, I thought that Endo-san would be able to make the movement look really cool from the top-down. I was kind of worried whether it'd be okay for her to dance like that, but, during the MV filming Endo-san improved a lot. I think Endo-san had an awakening through 'Gomefin'. Now, she's someone who's able to change the atmosphere of the whole thing. At the time of this year's Zenkoku Tour, during 'Wilderness World' too, Endo-san almost seemed possessed [by something] and broke through to the audience.

Q: As for 5th generation songs, you've choreographed 'Band-Aid Hagasu You na Wakarekata' (30th single coupling song).

A: The lyrics made it easy to picture the choreography. There are many highlights, from the members illustrating the waves in the canon to the moves that start from '夏の恋はフェードアウト (summer love fades out)'. Even though we were filming the music video during a heat wave, everyone was dancing and keeping their facial expressions steady without blinking an eye and I couldn't help but imagine "These kids are going to turn out amazing". All of the girls were already perfect, and I found it unbelievable how the center, Sugawara (Satsuki)-san, had no prior dance experience. I guess she must just have a feel for it. Ioki (Mao)-san and Tomisato (Nao)-san had a hard time figuring out where the midpoint was, but by the next time we had met they'd figured it out.

[choreo in question ⬇️]

Q: The 31st single's A-side, 'Koko ni wa Nai Mono' is Asuka's graduation song.

A: When I was entrusted with choreographing her graduation song, I was wondering what kind of present I could gift her. Originally, I made a beautiful choreography to match the music, but the production side told me 'We'd like a choreography that's more LICO-san-like', so I made it into a choreography that involved proper dancing. No matter how many times I had tried to make it work, the moves in the interlude that are supposed to look like wings felt out of place. There was a moment when I almost gave up, thinking "For Asuka-san to fly, it HAS to look like wings, otherwise there's no point". However, my staff told me "If you keep putting in the effort, it's bound to look like she's spreading her wings". As I continued trying, I saw the wings take shape.

[choreo in question ⬇️]

Q: What did you keep in mind when creating the choreography for the 33rd single's A-side, 'Ohitorisama Tengoku', which symbolizes the emergence of a new generation in Nogizaka46?

A: When I first heard the title 'Ohitorisama Tengoku' (One-Person Paradise), I was taken aback and worried about how to best express it. At first, I thought of creating an angel's halo above their heads for when they'd sing the 'Ohitorisama Tengoku' part, but after talking to the staff on the production crew, we thought it'd be better to change it up a little, which is how we ended up with the lower, shoulder-height movement it is now. The clap at the beginning of the choreo is meant to let the audience know that this is a live song.

[choreo in question ⬇️]

[shoulder-height part ⬆️]

[beginning clap ⬇️]

Q: The truth is, it has become a song that gets people excited during live shows. As for Inoue Nagi-san, what kind of impression did she leave you with?

A: Inoue-san is an all-rounder. She's good at singing, she can dance, she can even create her own worldview. It's left me thinking, "Is there anything this girl can't do?" Her heart is so sincere that it can be dyed any colour, so she doesn't have to worry no matter which song might be coming her way.

Q: The under song from the 35th single, 'Shadougawa', was made up of only 4th and 5th generation members.

A: The lyrics depict the relationship between childhood friends, and since the front members are Tsutsui (Ayame)-san, Sugawara-san and Tomisato-san, I wanted the choreography to also be cute. I created a choreo that focuses on the face quite a bit and features a lot more hand movements focused on the fingers, in hopes of people imitating it on TikTok. I often get ideas while I'm driving. I'll have the song playing on repeat when I'm driving, and at times I'll stop the car, kind of move my hands and think "This move might be cute!" Anyone who sees such a thing will probably curiously wonder "What on earth is she doing?" (laughs). For some reason, inspiration comes to me more easily when I'm actually doing something.

Q: What do you put emphasis on when you create choreography? I suppose it could be something such as 'expressing the lyrics' or 'fitting the song'.

A: The most important thing is expressing the lyrics. About as important is who stands in the center. I ponder "Since it's this girl, we should try creating this kind of atmosphere". We're paying attention to the whole formation also. I believe that the choreography is meant to synergize with the music. I reckon that my job is to double or triple that synergistic effect.

Q: For instance, on 'Cheat Day' (36th single A-side), the center Inoue Nagi-san is joined by two fellow 5kis, Ikeda Teresa-san and Ogawa Aya-san, who are at the front for the first time.

A: Even when I was creating the choreography, I got the feeling that having these three at the front made it so much fresher. The Cheat Day pose was conceptualized as an unrequited [hand] heart motif. The most difficult part was the 'yoroshiku' in "Yoroshiku cheat day". Up until then, the tempo is fast, but during 'yoroshiku' it slows down. I could've used a conventional pose like a salute or something like that there, but I didn't want to do that. There's no mention of eating in the lyrics, but I had them pose as if they were touching their mouth with their fingers after they had just eaten, and I put in a quick 'sorry' afterwards, before proceeding with the Cheat Day pose.

Q: Have you noticed any changes in Inoue-san?

A: Last year, I could sense that she was very on edge, but it got better while we were working on 'Ohitorisama Tengoku'. On 'Cheat Day', [you can see that] she's wholeheartedly having fun. Nevertheless, at first she seemed embarrassed about the 'Gomennasai' spoken part, so I remember telling Inoue-san that I pictured her shouting it seaward right as the sun was setting.

Q: Having choreographed for Nogizaka46 since its early years, have you noticed any changes?

A: When the 5th generation joined the group, it felt as if it had become fresher all at once. But there's one thing that's stayed the same all this time. The 5th generation members have also become 'Nogizaka-like'. Being in a large group can often seem tense, but the atmosphere in Nogizaka46 always is a good one. I'm intrigued as to what kind of training the management provides.

Q: LICO-san, is there anything you always tell the members whenever you teach them choreography?

A: I don't have any rule set in stone. However, if I think "This girl is doing something good", I make sure to diligently praise the person in question.

Q: Are there any members who haven't been mentioned thus far, but who you personally think are great?

A: Everyone's amazing. For instance, Kanagawa (Saya)-san is beautiful, she has a great figure and she's good at dancing. Umezawa (Minami)-san's atmosphere has become more malleable, too, so I've let her know that she's improved. I like Tsutsui (Ayame)-san's recent aura, and Ogawa-san is healing. There are things I love about everyone, and once I start talking about it, I can go on forever (laughs). I'd like to praise just about everyone.

Q: What are your expectations for Nogizaka46 from now on?

A: I'm curious as to what kind of girls will be joining with the [arrival of the] 6th generation. And with the 6th generation joining, I'm looking forward to seeing just how everyone - from the 3rd generation to the 5th generation - will change. [And,] From royal road songs to dance songs too, please leave the choreography to me.

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(Terjemahan) EX-TAISHU Edisi Maret 2017: Simposium Peringatan Lahirnya Kapten dan Wakil Kapten - Sugai Yuuka x Moriya Akane

Bulan lalu, diumumkan sebuah berita mengejutkan mengenai lahirnya kapten dan wakil kapten Keyakizaka46. Bertambahnya jabatan baru ini, mungkin dipicu oleh  perubahan reaksi kimia. Bagi kedua orang yang memikirkan grup dengan air mata yang berbeda, ini adalah awal keberangkatan.

――Saya ingin berbicara dengan tema persamaan antara Sugai-san dan Moriya-san, menurut diri kalian sendiri persamaan kalian itu ada di mana?

Moriya: Kita pernah membicarakan ini sebelumnya. Apa, ya?

Sugai: Ah, banyak makan.*tertawa*

Moriya: Betul, betul.*tertawa*

Sugai: Kami tidak punya makanan yang disukai atau dibenci.

――Makanan yang tidak lazim juga sanggup?

Sugai: Aku akan berjuang kalau demi pekerjaan.*tertawa*

Moriya: Betul.

――Kalian berdua sepertinya juga sanggup mengatasi makanan tidak lazim dengan sekuat tenaga.

Moriya: Jika tidak dimakan, aku akan merasa frustasi.*tertawa*

――Kalau demikian, tolong demonstrasikan sifat tidak ingin kalah kalian.

Moriya: Ahh, kalau seperti itu, mungkin memiliki sifat genetik khas wanita juga persamaan kami.

Sugai: Umm, kami punya sifat genetik khas wanita.

――Menurut pandangan saya, persamaan kalian berdua adalah sama-sama memberikan kesan tentang “air mata”.

Sugai: Benarkah?

Moriya: Saat frustasi, aku hampir tidak pernah menangis. Saat senang, aku juga tidak pernah menangis, saat menonton film pun aku tidak pernah menangis. Aku tidak ingin orang lain melihatku saat menangis.

Sugai: Jadi, kamu berpikir “Aku tidak menangis kok”.*tertawa*

Moriya: Betul, betul. Saat festival olahraga musim gugur di “Keyakitte, Kakenai?”, karena aku memahami rasa frustasi akibat tidak bisa pergi ke lokasi, aku merasa sangat ingin membuat “Team Gachi” menang. Kupikir member yang pergi ke lokasi tidak akan memahaminya.*tertawa*

Sugai: Timku selalu kalah dari tim Akanen, tapi kami berhasil meraih poin yang bisa membalikkan kedudukan di pertandingan lari estafet terakhir. Jika itu tidak terjadi, kami tidak akan menang, aku jadi merasa bersalah.

Moriya: Saat aku menerima tongkat sebagai pelari terakhir di pertandingan lari estafet terakhir, selisih jaraknya begitu mustahil untuk dikejar. Walaupun kupikir pasti mustahil, di luar dugaan selisih jaraknya menipis… tapi kalah tetap saja kalah, pada akhirnya, itu adalah penentuan bisa pergi ke lokasi atau tidak.

――Jadi, hal yang paling membuat frustasi adalah tidak bisa pergi ke lokasi.

Moriya: Bahkan setelah syuting berakhir pun, aku masih tidak bisa menerima kenyataan. Aku pergi keluar gedung olahraga dan menangis seorang diri.

――Sampai sebegitunya!

Moriya: Beberapa waktu yang lalu, saat melihat VTR tim pemenang yang pergi ke lokasi, aku merasa sedih lagi.

――Saat melihat VTR itu, menangis tidak?

Moriya: Perasaanku tidak bisa diutarakan dengan kata-kata.*tertawa* Soalnya aku selalu tidak bisa pergi ke lokasi!

――Apakah ada lokasi yang ingin dikunjungi sebelum menjadi idol?

Moriya: Aahh, ada hal yang sangat kuidamkan. Saat itu, aku masih tinggal di Miyagi, jadi kupikir mungkin bagus juga bisa memperkenalkan makanan-makanan di Tokyo.

――Apakah Sugai-san terkejut dengan pengungkapan perasaannya sejauh ini?

Sugai: Sejak awal kupikir sangat bagus memiliki perasaan yang begitu kaya, jadi perasaan yang muncul di festival olahraga itu mungkin menjadi menarik dari sudut pandang acara televisi.

――Jadi, menurutmu itu hal yang tepat dari sisi variety.

Moriya: Aku sudah mengatasinya. Kupikir mungkin bagus juga terus seperti ini. Saat acara jabat tangan, aku merasa senang saat banyak orang yang datang mengatakan “Aku jadi menyukaimu setelah melihat festival olahraga”.

――Apakah penggemar juga memanggilmu “Sersan”?

Moriya: Banyak yang bertanya “Bagaimana caranya agar bisa masuk pasukan Moriya?”*tertawa*

――Apakah ada syarat tertentu agar dapat masuk?

Moriya: Syarat? Aku akan menilai berdasarkan tingkat tidak ingin kalah dan semangat juangnya.

――Di “Keyakake” beberapa waktu yang lalu, Sugai-san menangis karena gagal dalam permainan “lempar tangkap bola super” di “permainan tanggung jawab dan solidaritas”.

Moriya: Itu pasti sedih sekali, ya~

Sugai: Saat ditayangkan terlihat suasana pop yang cerah, tapi di tempat sesungguhnya terasa atmosfer yang tidak mengizinkan kegagalan. Aku memang punya firasat yang buruk, dan ternyata aku memang gagal. Saat berpikir… ini semua salahku, aku jadi merasa bersalah dan sedih, air mataku pun mengalir.

Moriya: Kami semua sudah menghiburnya, tapi aku memahami perasaan “merasa bersalah” itu.

――Tapi, setelah kegagalan itu, menurut saya keberhasilan melakukan “kata-kata cepat” di permainan berikutnya menimbulkan kegembiraan yang meluap-luap.

Sugai: Pada waktu itu, aku memang belum ditunjuk sebagai kapten, tapi aku gagal saat berada di posisi yang mengharuskan untuk memimpin semuanya. Terlebih lagi, selanjutnya adalah “kata-kata cepat” yang merupakan kelemahanku. Jika sampai gagal lagi, aku akan merasa sangat sedih.

Moriya: Kamu latihan terus-menerus, ya?

Sugai: Aku berlatih sampai-sampai tidak mengetahui mana yang benar.*tertawa* Mungkin ini berlebihan, tapi menurutku dengan menyelesaikan satu hal bersama-sama, ikatan grup kami akan semakin erat.

Moriya: Kita semua bisa mengatakannya, sungguh melegakan, ya?

――Di masa awal acara reguler kalian dulu, kalian masih pendiam, tapi sekarang kalian sudah berkembang sampai-sampai bisa menggoda Sawabe-san.

Moriya: Kami penuh dengan member yang melakukan sesuatu pada saat dibutuhkan, Shida dan juga Suzumoto bilang begitu padaku. Keyaki itu di luar dugaan ternyata banyak member yang bertipe atlet.*tertawa*

Alasan Sugai menangis di “Kimi ga Inai”

――Sugai-san tiba-tiba menangis saat One-Man Live di Ariake Coloseum bulan Desember tahun lalu. Apa alasanmu menangis saat “Kimi ga Inai” di pertunjukkan terakhir itu?

Sugai: Di 2 pertunjukkan awal, kepalaku penuh dengan materi MC, sehingga aku tidak bisa tenang. “Kimi ga Inai” adalah lagu favoritku, jadi ketika menyanyikannya, begitu menggugah hatiku. Terlebih lagi, sebelum lagu itu, diputar VTR tentang member yang mengutarakan perasaaannya. “Semuanya ternyata memiliki perasaan yang bermacam-macam”, saat memikirkan tentang hal itu, tiba-tiba aku merasakaan sesuatu begitu intro dimainkan. “Kimi ga Inai” mengingatkanku pada diri kami saat debut.

Moriya: Aku memahaminya.

Sugai: Saat debut, aku tidak pernah berpikir akan dapat melihat pemandangan yang seindah ini.

――Kemudian, MC terakhir Sugai-san bagaimanapun sungguh luar biasa.

Sugai: Semua hal yang ingin kukatakan saat MC sudah kupikirkan sebelumnya, tapi saat berbicara di panggung kepalaku menjadi kosong, pada saat itu, aku hanya mengatakan perasaan yang terlintas di benakku. Bagiku MC waktu itu kuanggap tidak bagus, tapi penggemar mengatakan “Perkataanmu waktu itu bergema di dalam hatiku”. Walaupun memakan waktu yang lama, tapi aku bersyukur dengan MC waktu itu.

――Jadi, kata-kata waktu itu berasal dari lubuk hatimu.

Sugai: Aku cemas apakah tempat yang seluas itu akan terisi penuh atau tidak, tapi ternyata penggemar yang datang begitu banyak. Aku bisa menyaksikan pemandangan yang indah di ketiga pertunjukkan, aku sekali lagi merasa berterimakasih kepada para penggemar.

――Perkataanmu tidak terasa seperti skenario, serta dipenuhi dengan perasaan, jadi satu per satu perkataanmu begitu menggugah.

Sugai: Terima kasih banyak. Aku sempat cemas apakah tidak apa-apa mengatakannya hanya dengan perasaan saja, tapi entah bagaimana aku bisa mengungkapkan hal yang ingin kusampaikan.

――Saat mendengar MC waktu itu, apa yang dirasakan Moriya-san?

Moriya: Yuuka sejak awal selalu melakukan perkenalan sebagai perwakilan member, tapi pada waktu itu aku merasa dia telah berkembang. Aku tidak tahu seperti apa rasa gugup saat melakukan perkenalan di pertunjukkan,  tapi menurutku di Ariake waktu itu bukanlah keheningan yang canggung, dia hanya membicarakan hal yang membuat kami merasakan hal yang sama. Aku pun merasa terharu.

Sugai: Tidak. Aku jadi malu.*muka memerah*

――Apakah kalian berdua menyadari bahwa diri kalian mudah menangis?

Sugai: Selama ini aku tidak seperti itu, tapi sejak melewati usia 20 aku jadi mudah menangis.

Moriya: Aku juga, aku juga. Mungkin bertambahnya usia membuat kita jadi semakin sensitif.*tertawa*

Sugai: Mungkin juga karena bergabung dengan Keyakizaka46. Saat merasakan banyak emosi yang tidak pernah kurasakan selama ini, air mataku pun mengalir.

Rintangan jalan menanjak yang dapat diatasi karena dilakukan berdua

――Di acara jabat tangan tanggal 21 Januari yang lalu, secara mengejutkan diumumkan bahwa Sugai-san ditunjuk sebagai kapten, dan Moriya-san sebagai wakil kapten.

Sugai: Kupikir Keyakizaka46 tidak akan menunjuk seorang kapten, jadi aku terkejut karena kami pernah mengatakan bahwa hal itu adalah kelebihan dari grup ini. Kemudian, walaupun sebelumnya diberi peran seperti seorang kapten, tapi aku merasa diriku tidaklah pantas, padahal kupikir ada banyak member yang lebih dapat diandalkan. Sekarang aku sudah merasa antusias dengan kenyataan ini, jadi kupikir aku tidak boleh terus seperti ini.

――Bukankah penunjukkan wakil kapten adalah hal yang di luar dugaan?

Moriya: *menyela pembicaraan* Waktu itu aku benar-benar terkejut. Saat aku berpikir bahwa itu pengumuman tentang perilisan single selanjutnya, kemudian di layar muncul tulisan “Pelantikan Presiden Trump”, aku jadi terkejut “Eh?!”. Saat namaku muncul sebagai wakil kapten, aku tidak bisa langsung memahaminya. Baru setelah itu aku berpikir, “Aku harus lebih bisa diandalkan ke depannya”.

――Saat interview setengah tahun yang lalu, seandainya Sugai-san sudah ditunjuk sebagai kapten, kau mungkin akan mengatakan “Aku akan mendukungnya”.

Moriya: Aku pasti akan mendukungnya. Yuuka adalah orang yang selalu sopan dan rendah hati di saat seperti apapun, jadi dengan berbicara sebagai perwakilan grup, kupikir Keyakizaka46 akan memiliki imej yang bagus.

――Sudah pasti tidak ada orang yang akan memiliki kesan buruk saat bertemu dengan Sugai-san. Hanya saja, rasanya dia tidak akan mengatakan hal semacam, “Ayo ikuti aku!”, apa Moriya-san berpikir untuk mengikutinya?

Moriya: Meskipun dia tiba-tiba mengatakan, “Ayo ikuti aku!” pasti member tidak akan berpikiran positif. Kupikir semuanya mungkin akan lebih mudah mengikuti sosok Yuuka yang sekarang.

Sugai: Karena Akanen adalah seseorang yang kuat, aku akan bergantung padanya. Maka dari itu, menurutku Sakurai Reika-san sungguh hebat karena dapat melakukannya seorang diri.

――Sudah pernah berbicara dengan Sakurai-san?

Sugai: Pernah. Aku sangat senang saat dia berkata padaku, “Jika ada hal yang ingin didiskusikan, katakan saja apapun itu”.

――Apakah penggemar pernah mengatakan, “Sifat kikukmu mirip seperti Sakurai-san”?

Sugai: Pernah~ *tertawa* Aku harus lebih bisa diandalkan.

――Tapi, saya ingin kau mempertahankan “sifat yang dicintai semuanya”.

Sugai: Hanya saja, aku merasa harus lebih memahami member lain. Saat harus menjadi sosok yang dibenci orang lain, kupikir menghilangkan karakter ini adalah hal yang juga dibutuhkan.

――Sampai saat ini kau punya peran yang mendekati (peran seorang kapten), tapi dengan disematkannya jabatan ini, menurutku ada perasaan bahagia di dalam hatimu.

Sugai: Benar sekali. Ketika aku memimpin saat membentuk lingkaran, terkadang aku berpikir “Apa tidak apa-apa aku yang melakukannya”. Tetapi, dengan menjadi seorang kapten, aku bisa memahami bahwa “ini adalah tugasku”. Kupikir itu membuatku merasa lega.

――Dimulai dari Dream Team di “FNS Kayousai”, menurutku Sugai-san dan Moriya-san dapat mengatasi banyak rintangan secara berdua.

Sugai: Dimulai dari posisi yang bersebelahan di “Silent Majority” sampai ramalan cuaca “CDTV” di akhir tahun, kami pernah melakukan berbagai macam hal berdua. Kalau dipikir-pikir, mungkin kami akan tetap bisa melakukan sesuatu dengan baik ke depannya.

――Apakah kalian tetap ingin “mendaki bukit” di tahun 2017?

Sugai: Tentu saja. Tahun lalu kami mendapatkan lagu yang bagus, kami berkesempatan muncul di banyak media dan acara, tapi kami berniat menguatkan tekad agar tidak dianggap “Tahun lalu adalah puncak kejayaan kalian”.

Moriya: Sebelum ini pun kami masih menemui kesulitan, tapi aku ingin kami mengatasinya dengan kerjasama seluruh member.

――Demi mencapai hal itu, apakah membutuhkan semangat?

Moriya: Benar sekali.*tertawa* Aku ingin menjadi sosok pemberi semangat bagi member, jadi aku akan melakukannya dengan penuh semangat.

[nirooniyuihan]

YUIHAN X MION Interview from EX TAISHU Magazine January 2019 Editon

Special Thanks to @aneroph for the translations

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EX大衆 2023年5・6月号 (2023/4/14)

‘’新しい私、新しい場所。’’ 大盛真歩 (AKB48)

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Ex-Taishu 2023.02 - 1

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谷口めぐ 🐼👅 - Twitter - Thu 15 Dec 2022

本日発売のEX大衆さんに私の写真集のアザーカットが掲載されてます🕊🤍 写真集、是非沢山の方に見て欲しいです！ #谷口めぐ1st写真集 #可愛さの理由 Other cut of my photo book will be published on EX Taishu, to be released today🕊🤍 I hope a lot of people will see my photo book! #Taniguchi Megu 1st photobook #Reason for Cuteness

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Ex-Taishu (Hayasaki Suzuki.2024.04.15)

Ex-Taishu went on sale today!!

This photo of me at the crossroads is an offshot! This was my first time taking pictures at a railroad crossway and I had a blast lol!

In this shoot, I was taking photos to the following themes:

"Before Graduation"

"Graduation Ceremomy"

"After Graduation"

Based on the theme of our 2nd single "Until Graduation"🙌

It's also been a while since I wore a school uniform〜😿

This one is after graduation~ This was my first gravure shoot and I had twintails! Sorry that I didn't get any behind the scenes shots（ ; ; ）

After changing my hair and style with my manager, i felt so depressed and went "Aaaah!" Please pick up a copy to look at me in twintails!

Fan club advance tickets for "1st Anniversary Solo Live Boku ga Mitakatta Aozoravol.1" are open until 23:59 today!!

I'll be waiting!!

Let's make that day a great day together! Let's go, Let's go!

It's already obvious..

I'm there...

😆😆😆

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Asahi Nanami 朝日ななみ, Ex-Taishu 2021.10

歳/Age: 22

身長/Height: 157cm

B86 W59 H80

Twitter: @asahi_73

Instagram: @asahi_nanami