#everyone else: omg veilguard!!!!
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Anansi's story is kind of funny because most of the time he does what he does by accident. He knows he's being used as a tool of forced change, even if he can't quite see the whole picture, but he also is just a girl trying to like... live his life without fucking shit up too much. He was forced into the Circle and he didn't much care for it at all, but once he was in there he tried to be chill and normal, despite the fact that his whole purpose there was to start a Circle-collapsing domino effect. He undertook the Joining somewhat under duress, but once he was in there he tried to be a somewhat decent Warden, despite the fact that his whole purpose there was to essentially put the Order out of business. He got roped into a whole Situation by being in the wrong place at the wrong time and next thing you know a cult is forming around him, but he tried to leverage that power to stabilise things a bit, despite the fact that his whole purpose there was to expedite the sundering of the Veil. Anansi wants to live and love and yeah, maybe do his little minor corruptions (not these big ones!!!) and cause some minor problems for fun and profit, because to him he's just a mortal creature with mortal-creature desires. But to Razikale he's really just a very pretty nuclear warhead. Tragic!
#everyone else: omg veilguard!!!!#me: making multiple text posts in a row about my warden again like it's goddamn 2012#i think anansi should fuck razikale and that'll calm it down.#................ oh yeah wait. i'm god. *waves magic wand* ok razikale get pegged#.anansi#dragon age#general oc tag
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AHHHHH YESSS F*CKING FINALLY!!!!!!!!!
The German Voice Cast of Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Rook - Jesse Grimm/Samina König Varric - Tilo Schmitz Solas - Ozan Ünal Harding- Sarah Tkotsch Davrin - Daniel Welbat Bellara - Leonie Landa Neve - Cornelia Waibel Taash - Anni Sultany Emmrich - Robin Brosch Lucanis - Rasmus Borowski
#FINALLY TWO DAYS BEFORE RELEASE#so they went with Toneworx in Hamburg again?? Like Origins??#omg NICE#Emmrich is voiced by Nathaniel Howe lmaooo#and Davrin's actor is also a singer?? He sounds so good??? AHHHHHH#they're all great!! they match perfectly from what I've heard!!#my only gripe is that they got poor Sarah Tkotsch again for Harding nooooo#she got so much criticism back then that they actually recast her for the DLCs#her performance was...... special :I#like she had no range 😭#but she's cute lol#maybe her acting has gotten better in the last ten years? 😅#everyone else though sounds amazing!! I'm so happyyyy#Ozan and Tilo are back I'm SO relieved!!#what about the other two Rooks though? are there only two options in German? 🤨#<3333333333#datv#dragon age the veilguard#VA stuff
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Oh. U guys. It’s bad. It’s real bad. I only JUST met him. Gods bless Mary Kirby bc that first scene with him back at the lighthouse was made in a lab for me. WHO WOULDN’T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS BABYGIRL PUNCHING BAG 😭😭😭
Rook immediately becoming so concerned in that first flirt option was so sweet and soft AND IF THIS IS WHAT THEIR ENTIRE ROMANCE IS BASED ON Emmrich has some serious competition. Idk what to do looool. I might just have to romance this dang telenovela man first lmao!!!
#emmrich bb hurry up I’m falling for someone else#he has BEWITCHED ME BODY AND SOUL#the fact that spite can HURT him and everyone immediately stood up in shock!!! WHAT A GREAT SCENE OMG SOMEONE GIVE KIRBY HER JOB BACK#delicious angst#steph plays datv#datv spoilers#dragon age#dragon age the veilguard#AND ALSO#the fact that they’re both crows actually fits so well bc my rook was excited to meet him when he spoke w neve#and it adds an extra layer that I adooooore
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omg wait what are the gendered differences for lucanis and spite in the recruitment quest? i only ever played as nb rook so far!
this is in the convo back at the lighthouse, after bellara and lucanis say that the usual option to get rid of a demon is to kill the host. if i recall correctly, if you ask if spite can be reasoned with instead (the diplomatic option) spite says “he doesn’t want to hurt you. how rare. everyone else does” for he/him rook and “she doesn’t/they don’t want to hurt you. how sweet” for the other two. and if you say oof that’s awkward (the purple option) spite says “he’s fun. you’re never fun” vs “she’s fun. i like her/they’re fun. i like them.” so overall it avoids hitting men with the one you could call a bit more flirtatious. which is the kind of tactic classically intended so straight man players don’t get uncomfortable
i dont know if there are any differences with the stoic option or even what the stoic option is. im too niceys :(
it strikes me as really startling for veilguard’s usual approach to gender, but very reminiscent of whatever the hell da2 used to do lmao. which makes sense bc lucanis is mary kirby’s, and merrill and varric’s dialogue were riddled with differences like these. this is the REAL mark of having more of an old guard writer jghsjskks
it’s even more baffling to reckon with in-world than usual though bc usually you can be like “well, thedas society is still heteronormative, maybe there’s contextual reasoning why a character responds differently to different genders, blah blah blah”. but spite is a spirit so unused to the mortal world that it has no sense of its own appearance and doesn’t understand why it and lucanis collectively need their skin. where did SPITE get this. lucanis what gender norms have you been inflicting on that creature
#may not be completely correct im going off memory here#dont ask why i can do this much off memory i watched versions of this scene one thousand times pre release#i would know it even in death at the end of the world et cetera#veilguard spoilers#spite
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OMG I'm laughing so hard at someone calling me names because I dared post that I had to unfollow people who were toxicly positive about Veilguard and being twats about it to others.
Again, I'm truly happy for you if you liked it. I didn't. You shockingly don't have to be an asshole to others about it. Nor do you need to shit on something other people loved simply because checks notes, some stranger on the internet said that they didn't want to follow people being toxically positive about something you liked. Oooookay then. 🤣
It's a video game. A piece of entertainment. It's fiction.
If you get so worked up over someone else's (a strangers!) opinion that you're slinging ad hominem attacks, maaaaaybe it's time to I dunno, do literally anything else?
Especially trying to get any response but laughter or blocking out of someone like me who has lived through so much that if I talk about even a fraction of it, people go all owl eyed and universally ask in a quiet, shocked tone 'how are you even alive?'
Legit can't stop laughing. 🤣
Update
So, I freely admit that I'm in a bad mood and broke my rule about feeding the trolls. I shall do my due internet denizen duty and block/report.
In all responsibility, while laughing at a troll can be a good tool, it risks escalation, and it's really better to simply block and report. They get their jollies by making people feel horrible. (I wasn’t laughing out of trying to feed a troll BTW. They legitimately shocked me into laughing. I wasn't in a good enough mood to hide my reaction.)
They've either deleted or hidden their responses to me. It's just a crying shame that screenshots are forever. Y'all might want to preemptively block. Up to you.
If they hadn’t been so utterly awful, I'd probably have let it slide. But this behavior is unacceptable in a society.
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Lilithfairen
So you're just a raging asshole who can't stand people enjoying a game you didn't. You should let people know that when you follow them so anyone with common sense can block you the moment they see you around.
Masked responder
That's not what OP said lmao
Me
Oh, honey. You're precious (laugh emoji) Go try to gaslight and sea lion someone else. In your vast amounts of time where you're not being a dick to a stranger, perhaps you should consider brushing up on that 'reading comprehension' thing. I gather it's not your highest skill. Maybe put a few skill points in that.
Me replying to masked responder
Right? (Laugh emoji) Just posting on my own wall, about a Fandom problem that they very clearly demonstrated an excellent example of, and *I'm* the asshole. I'm laughing so fucking hard I'm almost crying.
lilithfairen
Oh, not gaslighting anyone. Because a quick check tells me you're a BG3 stan, which highlights why you don't like Veilguard and the people who enjoy it. Veilguard doesn't write queer people as sexual predator. Veilguard doesn't get off on victimizing non-white people or writing them as innately evil and savage. Veilguard doesn't write a storyline where a goddess is a prop to paint a white guy as awesome and smart and then written as a horrible bitch herself. You're a garbage shitstain of a person who can't stand Veilguard not being a game written for straight white manbaby sensibilities, because you think that's what good fiction is.
Me. Oh, do please keep responding (laugh emoji) you're amusing me and exposing your ignorance nicely. Have you considered therapy? It might help with that whole ... hatred of everyone who isn't me... thing, you have going on. I actually can't stop laughing at the loads of shit you're shoveling. I hope you're getting a decent wage for that. Shoveling shit is hard work.
I did say I wasn't in a good mood.
Anyway... because I'm me... pretty sure a lot of people who play Dragon Age games also play BG3. And liked both. It's not an either or. People can shockingly like both! While accepting that there's no such thing as a perfect game/book/movie/show/anything.
I know several people I'm on good terms with who absolutely loved Veilguard. I didn't, but it's not their problem. I don't make it their problem.
Veilguard doesn't write queer people well. Period. (I'm a queer AF author and editor.)
"Doesn't get off on victimizing non-white people or writing them as innately evil and savage." *blinks*. 'Who do we put across from Harding for a death choice. "Assan."' -John Epler (Not the whole Black man attached to the bloody griffin. The griffin.) That doesn't even get into what having the only Black male companion being part of that choice in the first place says. (Pssst. It's not good.)
Um... the Qunari have long been PoC coded and what they did to the Qunari in Veilguard is nothing short of writing them as innately evil and savage. Seriously? Truly shocked by that one. Taash's first romance scene is really problematic, too.
"A storyline where a goddess is a prop to paint a white guy as awesome?" Did they even play BG3? I've played it 5x and have no idea what they're on about there. And Vlakkith has always been a bitch. (I've been playing D&D since 2E. Is it problematic? Fuck yes.) I guess female and woman presumed people aren't allowed to be evil. Who knew?
Snorts. I'm not white, not a man, definitely not straight, and good fiction is my actual job.
As far as the ad hominem attacks. (Sad head shake) Dirthara-ma, da'len.
All that in response to this post of mine.
#datv spoilers#dav spoilers#dragon age Veilguard Spoilers#da Veilguard Spoilers#datv critical#dav critical
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Everyone else: omg the wait for Veilguard is endless, time is moving at a snail's pace, every day lasts a year. When will the 17 days finally pass????
Me, who has to plan, book and make an international trip before then and also needs to play through a Solavellan Trespasser and wants to write several theory posts etc before then and still can't even decide on a faction for her Rook:
CAN WE PLS SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!
#I need an extra month guys pls I'm not ready#datv#dav#veilguard#dragon age: the veilguard#dragon age the veilguard#da: the veilguard#dragon age veilguard
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I’ve never played Dragon Age before but I’m being won over by all the thirst posting lmao, what’s the best DA game to start with? Idk if there’s like an overarching narrative or if they’re self contained plots or whatever.
Omg I somehow missed this which is unacceptable given how much I love ya lol
YEEEES, WELCOME TO THE DRAGON AGE SICKO SIDE, MWHAHAHA
Okay, so if you're not totally allergic to old graphics I highly recommend starting with Dragon Age: Origins. It's an absolute masterpiece in storytelling, but also wildly politically, errr, incorrect lmfao. And with mods it looks amazing
You get to have a dog who can read. I'm not making this up. He understands human speech perfectly and only uses it to beg for treats. You can also ask him if he has something for you (like Scratch in bg3) and when he doesn't, the game makes you want to kill yourself because the camera pans down into the most SHAME ON YOU angle on him I've ever seen and he looks defeated. It's amazing lol
Your companions in Origins are straight up insane. A huge warrior who steals cookies from a child and calls him fat. A living construct who was once a dwarf but there was a situation and she spent 30 years inert being shat on by pigeons and now she's on a personal quest to brutally murder all of them.
Did I mention there's a bisexual assassin elf who spends most of the game complimenting the group's grandma's boobs? I’m not sure it’s a "good" plot point, but it sure is a plot point.
You get to be rescued from prison by any of your companions. If the dwarf and elf go, they lie that they are brothers and it somehow works. Or the companions can end up naked. It’s insane, it’s absolutely fucking insane
Or you can start with DA 2 and experience the joy that is Purple Hawke (aka choosing the sarcastic dialogue option.) I present to you some of the classic lines:
"So I should be looking out for a bunch of boneless women flopping through the street?"
"Let's be more specific. I don't do anything that involves children or animals."
"You should pay someone else. Like me. I like being paid."
"I'd like to know who this "Corypheus" is. With a name like that, he's bound to go "mwa-ha-ha" at some point. I just know it."
In DA 2, you get to run around for YEARS (yeah actual years) with your found family that sort of hates each other, everyone, or almost, is bisexual, someone is possessed, and everyone is horny.
Inquisition is a great starting point, though, if you don't want to go too far back. It’s friendly to new players and very patient with your questions about "What is a dragon?" and "Why does everyone hate elves?" It rehashes everything you need to know so you’re not like, "Wait, what’s a Blight again?" Plus, it directly ties into the new game, Veilguard, which is even friendlier since 10 years passed between the two games and it has no choice but to be.
But really, I feel like all of them are good are introducing/rehashing the lore
Also if you want to experience the most life-devastating romance with the elven embodiment of a poetic egg, Inquisition and Veilguard got you covered. @thessaralka wrote many treatises on it lmfao
Pick up the games ok pls ty byyye
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First of all: My rook
Was really pretty.
I'm going to briefly summarize my opinion of the game and then just talk about my playthrough.
It's clear that solas is the writer's pet; basically the writing became 80% better and more enjoyable anytime he was even remotely involved. Luckily for us, he's very involved in the main plot and ending. Unluckily for us, he's not involved with the companions.
I deeply missed character depth/development and world depth/development in this game. I feel like we kinda got the crust of a piece of toast but not the filling.
Really genuinely impressed how despite bioware apparently changing direction drastically mid-development and laying all their writers off, this game manages to not be bad. Not great but not actually bad. I think that's a win for everyone and I'm not surprised the devs are proud/satisfied w the game as it is
I played a grey warden dwarf rook, and that was a lucky decision, because grey warden is one of apparently like three? backgrounds that really become relevant to the plot. There were also a metric tonne of GW specific dialogue options which I looveeee. I played Rias (that her) very stereotypical GW character which was really well supported by the game. Rias Thorne you will always be famous to me
Anyway so I totally fell for the varric thing and for Solas' big twist I was not expecting it at all TOOOO THHEEEE POINTTTT I wasn't paying attention in the big twist cutscene because I was like haha funny trick Elgar'nan I dont trust your silly images magic man (sob). I actually had to reload the save and watch it again to pay attention for real (and also just to comprehend it because it was a REALLY good twist). But yeah F to me for not realizing that varric wasn't real omg. I thought the weird you-are-my-dad thing that was happening with him was odd but it really makes sense with the twist.
Anyway For the treviso vs. minthaous choice I chose to defend treviso. I felt like this choice was forced at first but I really liked how it played out afterwards and I honestly wish we were forced to choose between more factions & there were more BIG CHOICESSS heheheeeee What I did not anticipate was that the choice would actually just completely obliterate the shadow dragons. I was back there multiple times trying to see if they had any sort of shop or characters left and nope they are just completely gone. This did mean I couldn't interact with their faction (sad) but it makes sense as you can't be around if you are dead. I was expecting a bit more, like I was hoping for a followup quest to follow up on what exactly happened to the dragons and where they were, but it was cool. It was such a surprise to see mae and dorian still at the end lol. I like that Neve took it really personally but wish it could have been developed more.
For my next playthru im gonna torch treviso instead and Ill be super sad about it because lucanis is kind of my little kitten man. Part of the reason I defended treviso in the first place is that lucanis has enough to deal with
I decided to romance Bellara because she's pretty and also I felt like her voice actress was doing a good job despite there not being a lot of character animation. The romance was. not very good. I genuinely thought they were doing a QPR thing because all they were doing was standing around talking about being in a relationship lol. It seems like from a cursory glance it's the same for most of the other romances, so that's a bit sad.
Managed to get Davrin super killed in the last mission (oops) but it seems like someone has to die in this choice, which I love, but we're definitely trying to kill someone else next time. (Again I really lucked out by creating a rook that makes the two people who can die very significant. These two were her besties). I almost wish the final decisions had been less obvious so I could have accidentally killed even more people *grinchface* but it is what it is. And it's nice that Neve/Bellara get to live.
Shoutouts to my favorite bitches:
Bellara - totally under-served by her questline (cyrian should have started out not dead!!!! My strongest opinion!!!!) she still managed to be incredibly lifegiving in terms of banter and reactions.
Emmerich ESPECIALLY as a skeleton. I started taking so many pictures of him as a lich. I really really dig it. He was pretty dope before also. I like that he's a full adult with a job
Davrin - besides being automatically my rook's bestie due to GW shenanigans, heroic / paladin type characters are my catnip. Somehow we managed to have a pet guy who's not completely overshadowed by his pet!! His questline was extremely dumb because the villain is a cameo from a tie-in book in a true #dragonagewriting move LOL
Lucanis - the kitten thing really got to me. I feel like it's also easy to see the potential for how his family relationships COULD have been developed and it's pretty likable. I loved that you can't kill illario (though i was looking forward to seeing what happens if you save him, which I will likely not be allowed to without saving treviso. rip)
Thats it!! Also I forgave solas at the end because I was deliberatly running a solavellan state because I knew the writers had to do something about that and I wanted to see it. Next time I'm going decieve/trick ending which is. a little sad because now I LIKE THE GUY UGH
#Im soooooo happy to finally be able to take off all my spoiler tags and finally consume information about this game!!!#im going to look so many things up on youtube now#also I unknowingly had a bug for the last quarter of the game that turned my music off#I was at bellara's final quest like damn this is sad it's really weird they didnt put music on it#It took to the final quest before I restarted my game (ps5 just sleeps it with the console) and got the music back gfsgfdsgfdsgfsd#dragon age#datv
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the last few weeks i have been obsessively playing Dragon Age, in preparation for the veilguard release of course.
Dragon Age: Origins is still a work of Art and I would die for her and every companion
Dragon Age: 2 is not as bad as I remembered it? Sure it has it's issues but the story is genuinely so fantastic. Like, the story, the characters, Hawke's relationships with the companions - the combat is almost an annoying obstacle to get to the heartbreakingly tender moments between Hawke and their damaged, broken, hurting friends
For that reason I would love for an option to just skip combat alltogeter and turn it into a walking simulator.
In both Origins and 2, the male love interests are so so so much better holy fuck
Like the first time I played as a lesbian (of course) and romancing Leliana in Origins. Which is... sweet and everything, but the relationship with Leliana always felt... hollow. Love without any true base in Friendship. If that makes sense.
This time, my warden was a bit of a slut and romanced Leliana, (also Isabella), Zevran and lastly Alistair. And holy fuck, the relationship between Warden an Alistair is just perfect. Me playing a female elf only added to the perfection. Sad I couldn't marry him at the end, but hey, staying as the King's mistress is fine with me, Anora's cool with it, mostly, and nothing can get in between true love. I mean, the relationship between Warden and Alistair starts off with pure banter and friendship, you can feel them acutally caring for each other way before you even start any romance. They feel like two people who just fit like puzzle pieces. Jokes, support, bleeding together, either one would not think a minute before sacrificing their own life for the other. and finally, after weeks of pain and suffering and drinks in taverns and jokes around the campfire and horribly traumatizing deaths all around, they both realize that they aren't just friends anymore. Fucking hell that is literally the perfect fictional relationship omg i have never shipped a straight couple harder.
Also I found the thought of being a slutty warden who bedded every available character before finally taking the future king's virginity, then arranging a marriage between her boyfriend and another woman and then also arranging for her boyfriend to get her other friend pregnant just... incredibly funny ngl
And in DA:2 on my first playthrough I romanced Merril. Which was... fine. Though I find it kinda difficult because I didn't like the idea of Hawke just being completely fine with blood magic and all that. Merril also isn't that interesting a character. I mean, comparing her to many other games she is fantastic!! But in this game, she just kinda pales in comparison to everyone else.
Now I'm playing a male gay Hawke and I first romanced Fenris. And I am just a sucker for a sad, hurting man learning how to feel again. Fenris is just such a good character. Of course he is horribly racist agains mages, which i mean, not that i / Hawke condone it, but anyone would need years of therapy to get over what the magisters did to him, so i love the thought of Hawke being patient and slowly trying to show him they are not that bad.
So I love to kinda torture Fenris and run around with him, anders and merril, their companion banters are so great.
But Fenris of course dumps Hawke after the first time and sure you COULD wait for him to come around in act three but screw that, I will not have my feelings played with like that.
Especially when there is an even sadder, more broken man waiting for me. Anders is probably my favourite character in DA:2. Even the last time I played, without romancing him. But now I startet DA:2 right after finishing the Awakening DLC and I just LOVE the difference and the similarities between the two Anders versions. Some might say it's inconsistent. But I choose to believe that in Awakening, even if Anders had seen so many horrible things already, he was still able to keep a more happy-go-lucky facade. I imagine between the end of Awakening and Hawke first meeting him, Anders has seen many many more horrible things while being with the wardens. So he is just extra-traumatized in 2. And of course, his character changed with the whole spirit of justice thing. But even if he is a lot more serious and a lot sadder, he still has that Anders-Charm. I love his love for kittens and his need for justice for the mages
And even if the DA:2 love interests (apart from Sebastian) are all bisexual, I love that they are not just default staights that can just also be romanced by same gender Hawkes. Like, when Anders confesses that Karl, who just died, was his first boyfriend??? I think I cried. The PAIN the HURT the HOMOSEXUAL ANGST. I will burn down all of Kirkwall if that makes Anders feel even a little better.
The rivalry / rivalry romance aspect is really cool and I love it exists but unfortunately i am incapable of not being liked by everyone.
Seriously how does a game that was pretty much universally considered a disappointment by the fandom (i previously didn't like it either!! Idek why!!!!) have storylines that trump pretty much any movie of tv show made in the last 5 years. Please let me play this just as a story game/walking simulator i need to look into mods i want to see every possible conversation and fuck everyone (tenderly and with love. and also as hateful rivals)
Also I have played the games so much recently I hope I don't accidentally say "by the maker" in public lmao
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veilguard was incredible, 11/10
I really don't have any interest in nit-picking or criticizing what was missing or done poorly, there was always going to be too much they COULD have crammed in and inevitably so much that didn't make it because at the end of the day it has to be a finished marketable product and must be made with finite resources.
there are always going to be cuts and places that feel lacking, there are always going to be holes, but its important to be appreciative of where they DID decide to spend their resources and I think their team did a fantastic job.
the hair, omg the hair.
the DA2 atmosphere, the ME2 story structure and emphasis on companions, the lore of DAI, like they could not have made a game more tailored to my tastes.
I'm so so so grateful to everyone at bioware who made it happen and that games like this still get made, truly no one does it like they do. BG3 was great but i don't consider them a substitute for the feeling i get from Bioware games. I finished veilguard like 2 days ago and I'm still kinda wondering around in an emotional fog.
I really thought I was going to be disappointed by the romances because nothing was going to compare to the impact and shock reveal and story relevance of solavellan, but omg emmrich!?!
he's so romantic, he's such a lover, he WANTS love so bad, he's so flustered about the age gap! his character arc is ACTUALLY INTERESTING and thematic! there are actually different routes for his romance to go and theyre both HUGELY different AND good!!! AND ALSO relevant to his themes as a character!!! in either route you basically have to chose which one of you is going to (eventually) die first and leave the other one mourning and its like UGH HES SO!!!! UGH ITS SO GOOD!! YOU GET IN A LOVERS SPAT BEFORE A BIG STORY MOMENT!!! THATS WORKING SYNCHRONOUSLY WITH THE GAME PLOT TO ENHANCE THE OVER ALL STORY!! ITS SO GOOOD!!!!
also its SUCH a relief to have an option that wasnt like SUPER young, the age gap is hot as fuck and its part of his story and UGH ITS SO GOOD!!
i also just love the mourn watch as a whole, I feel like some of dragon age magic system gets explained a little too concretely (it feels like everything is either because elves or because spirits or both) and the necropolis vibes are sort of like, no we haven't solved all that there is to be solved about magic and the fade, there are mysteries and cool stuff and wiggle room in the universe for other new stuff to be introduced, like lichs and vampires and supernatural beings that arent just different flavours of spirits.
I do feel bad for the lucanis girlies though. giving players HALF as much romance content as everyone else, and then saying its because of personality reasons? for a character whos personality you wrote yourself? seems mean spirited.
like you didnt have to do that, it was actively making the player experience worse for arguably nothing, if you wanted to convey that lucanis doesn't feel free to want things for himself there were other ways to portray that than an ABSENCE of content. you have a finite word count to bring these characters to life. Wasting it like that for arguably nothing except to make players feel disappointment doesn't seem defensible to me?
not even going into the neve thing. everyone on twitter is doing the usual "boohoo you just hate neve because you hate women" thing.
I LOVE neve, i think that "fantasy-noir" vibe she and varric have is absolute PEAK, I also didnt even romance lucanis, and i think they're perfectly sweet together and i love when companions have lives outside the main character!
but i do think its double shitty to write a character who fully ignores your romance lines (like not even shrugs them off or has an awkward or negative reaction just FULLY does not react as if the game isn't registering the option you chose) but then have them actively pursuing someone else?
what happened to those personality reasons?
lucanis has never had a relationship before but suddenly he's juggling 2 people?
during his quest (his stupid lazy dream sequence quest that has to happen in the middle of another conversation while the two of you stand there awkwardly for some reason) even if you've chosen every heart option he'll still imply in his dream sequence that hes attracted to neve.
YOU get cut off from the romance route if you choose to support minrathous but he's fine with neve?
I'm just saying, if i were writing one of 6 romance routes in the last dragon age game maybe ever made, I would have been more generous. The way it treats the player is almost adversarial?
I know, i know, the opposite side of the spectrum is being TOO fawning about the player till it almost reaches the point of paternalistic condescension, like when every single character adores the mc and never questions or doubts or disagrees with them. that also sucks! that is also a bad writing choice!
i LOVED rook and solas's relationship. I am a hardcore solavellan solas simp and my sole goal was for them to get their happy ever after, solas is my favorite character across all media EVER.
that said, i loved making rook shit talk him, and swear at him and hate him, and i was DELIGHTED every time solas betrayed them, even at the very end when he, the god of lies, swears on everything he holds sacred that he PROMISES he wont try to bring the veil down again after elgernan is dead and you just KNOW hes trying to give you one more stab in the back for the road, i LOVED it. i was DELIGHTED to be trapped in that prison, it was the strongest part of the game and I cried pretty much nonstop from that point to the finale. i dont NEED every character to get along and play nice and love me unquestioningly. i LOVE carver!!! i LOVE the rivalry system!!!
again i havent even played lucanis's route and i probably never will because i'm insane about emmrich (who btw i can romance every play through and pick a different version and get a different but equally devastatingly romantic route AHEM)
also im only criticizing his writing here, at the bottom of a huge rambling text post behind a read more on a dead website at 5:30 am, because mary kirby did get laid off and didn't receive the severance she was owed and regardless of how i feel about her latest work she absolutely deserves the money and new stable employment and picking on the way she wrote her character doesn't seem like the right thing to do anywhere there is even a slim chance someone might see it.
anyway, i just think maybe they were trying to play with structure to convey something and i disagree with the results, but what do i know. I'm protesting more about that because the mechanics of writing game romances, more so than the romance itself, is my obsessive special interest and I'm always thinking of how I would do it, and to see someone get the chance to do it in the big leagues and fumble (according to my tastes) chafes me a little.
that said, iv seen a lot of people who were perfectly happy with what they got from Lucanis so maybe im totally wrong lmao.
Im also just now thinking of all the stuff we'll never get a definitive answer to if this really is the last game, or all the choices that we imported over fifteen years that ended up meaning nothing.
like if only elgernan and ghilly were left, does that mean what the wardens were doing WAS actually killing the gods? and once theyre all dead the veil would come down because it no longer had their life force fuelling it and the mega blight would come out? and THATS why solas was so freaked out by clarel?
what the fuck was the point of playing hot potato with urthemiel's old god soul over the entire franchise? what about the well of sorrows?!! what the fuck is actually going on in kalsharok? theyre just like ALL semi-tainted semi-wardens? WAS andraste a mage? a vessel for mythal? WAS SOLAS SHARTAN????!?! what was yavanna trying to rebuild the dragon population for? WHAT RECKONING WAS MYTHAL PLANNING?!?! what the fuck is the gathering storm? why did the pre-qunari race decide to drink dragon blood to become qunari to get away from them? LIZARD MEN ILLUMINATI FROM THE MOON? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!!
i mean i know obviously the answer is "resource budget and time", and again im just so incredibly grateful the game got made at all, i guess im just left with the same feeling every other dragon age game gave me which is that i desperately want more.
#loooooong rambling veilguard thoughts i dont actually want anyone to read or expect to care about#mostly praise
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7 and 9 for Rook asks! :)
Thank you so much for sending this in!! I apologise for the absolute ESSAY I wrote in response rip
Questions for Rook & their partner !!
7. Are they a physically affectionate couple? Are they fine displaying those affections in public or do they prefer to be in private? If they're not, how do they prefer to show their love instead?
I think they work up to it tbh. They're friends for a while before they start dating, and Rook tends to be quite a platonic physical touch sort of person in cutscenes just generally imo? So things like reaching for each-other's hands and just holding them while they're walking places, or excited hugs-- they've been doing those things since they met practically. They'll keep doing them once they start dating for sure.
For the more strictly romantic stuff, I think at first they'd keep it private, especially while Bellara wraps her head around it all. But also Bellara has absolutely no filter, so one day she probably just goes and plants an absolute romance novel-worthy smacker of a kiss on Viveka without thinking (I'm thinking maybe in that adrenaline rush post-combat maybe?) and everyone else is just like Oh uh. okay. okay guys. Damn you can... you can put each-other down you know...
9. Does your Rook bring them out often? How are they like on the battlefield? Do they banter much?
All the time! Viveka loves to bring her partner to places and hear her thoughts! Banter-wise, they are so chatty. Constantly, just sharing whatever comes to mind, swapping ideas. I feel like Bellara probably does most of the talking, but Viveka is 100% following along and will chime in every so often. If they've brought someone else along with them, they'll often be a bit ??? because these two are just like... bouncing conversation subjects. It goes from "Do you think we'll find xyz in the ruins?" to "omg do you think the dragons in the ruins are sad when we steal their treasure :( " to "wouldn't it be cool if we had wheels on our shoes??" in a span of minutes. They can keep up with each-other, phenomenally. Other people are sometimes a bit like ???? Wait, hold on, what??
On the battlefield, I think for most of the game Viveka tries to protect Bellara. She'll try her best to put herself between Bel and the threat, and let Bellara fire spells at range. However, post-Veilguard, I feel like Viveka is able to step back a little more. It becomes less about protecting Bellara and more about how they can best support each-other? So if Bellara is firing spells at range, Viveka is up close with her orb & dagger. After everything they went through in that finale, they both trust that the other can handle themselves in most situations-- and if they can't, that's when they've got each-other as backup :')
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Play Session #23 (the last one)
this one if all about the last part of the game after the point of no return!!! there are many emotions under the cut
tldr; i am very emotional - definitely one of the best ends to a game i've ever played?? just an incredible time the whole way through, perhaps i will write up a post on my feelings tomorrow but we end the first playthrough delighted
of course this fucking guy MOVES THE MOON
also reiterating that i need to know how thedas views the moon and their customs
also?????? i thought i heard the beginning of the inquisition theme *cries*
the scene with davrin? how he admits he sees a future now with you???? i am going to cry
THE CHOICE? HOW DARE YOU BIOWARE
can everyone stop trying to take assan? like me and davrin will literally hunt you down if you take him ghilan'nain
ANOTHER CHOICE BIOWARE???? WTF
NEVE MY BELOVED
I WILL SAVE YOU
ghilan'nain you took my boyfriend and my best friend???? wtf
this fight is baller omg, i feel it in my bones
HARDING, god i knew something like this was coming, my girl had a heroic death but omg i actually cried
SOLAS THE NEXT TIME I SEE YOU ITS A PUNCH TO THE FACE
the statues of neve in this prison, i am seriously going to cry again, i feel it behind my eyes
i was right, he actually died at the ritual but i don't like being right
i love varric so much omg
i honestly don't think a video game has made me cry this much
can't believe fucking elgar'nan took my varric's storytime what a dick
davrin and rook are so soft, i love them, they just want to be together, they just want a chance at a future
ASSAN SLEPT ON ROOK'S COUCH WHILE SHE WAS GONE, THIS IS A GOOD BOY
i am so very stressed at assigning people to jobs so stressed !!!!!!!
i must have davrin with me but everything else is up in the air and i did decide lucanis would be my other guy
hi i love seeing all my friends together !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this sequence is so perfect
evka just climbing into this construct is so iconic omg
emmrich throwing a rock at a venatori is so good !!!
and taash gets to become an honourary crow !!!
Solas you are on thin ice my man but thank you for listening to me
eat your humble pie
neve i love you, please let me be able to heal you
MORRIGAN
MY INQUISITOR
DORIAN
my heart
Isabela saying "For Varric." I CRY
guys can we please just say "thom rainier" just for me?????
davrin just told me he loves me?????? AH
an excellent end fight
so happy neve got rid of the blight lmao
i wish there was longer epilogue scenes like there usually is for dragon age games
WTF BIOWARE
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE????????
what you doin here loghain
"the veilguard remains vigilant" does that mean rook comes back???????
#dragon age#da:tv#dragon age the veilguard#cassie plays veilguard#da:tv spoilers#dragon age the veilguard spoilers
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I took notes on my real time reactions to Veilguard and will be breaking them up into sections with my follow up thoughts! SPOILERS APLENTY so avoid under the cut!
Part 1: Boot up, Character Creator and Companion intros
I’m not a sound nerd but my bf is. It was really cool to see that this game has like next level sound design! There is a profile for a crazy type of soundscape that I got a sample of that's like. Dynamic and molded to the room you're in. It makes it sound like things are whizzing past you or moving around you more than regular surround sound will. We don’t have that level of sound system set up but if we do one day, I’ll look forward to the replay. I don’t play many like new/current/hip games but this is the first time I’ve seen that in a game setting and I can imagine hearing magic shots whizz past you and griffons circling the room would be super cool.
Character Creator took a bit to get used to. I love my rook now but took some finessing to make them look… human (I played an elf but regardless). Figuring out the head triangle thing was strange but once I figured out how to change the head presets it got better. I think the hair physics are GREAT but the styles are... somewhat strange in how they sit on the head or stray about 5% too cartoonish. Very funny to now be seeing everyone else's Rook's and we all chose the kind of wavy medium hair lol.
I was NOT going in with a very strong concept for my Rook other than knowing I was probably going to be an elf and mage again because that's generally what I like to play and I knew I wanted them to be pretty hostile to Solas in contrast to my Lavellan. So I had no clue what would be a good faction to suit them. I ended up choosing the Veil Jumpers just because I was like sure whatever I'll stick with the most Elfy Option. I figured since they're researching ancient elves, my Rook wouldn't be disillusioned about the god's or Solas. Early in the game I don't think it as a choice makes much sense but I've figured out how to write their backstory so it makes sense (Rook intro post to come).
I knew I wanted my Rook to be a huge ass to Eggman. She does not care for the elven gods and I wanted her to have the sass and resentment of a teen daughter left by Solas after the Solavellan divorce. (She is not their kid at all).
Similarly I love that Varric has a Hero Type and picked up just another snarky, soft-hearted, hard headed gremlin. In part because he'd like them, and in part because he thinks there's something enough like Lavellan in them to knock some sense into Solas.
omg they stabbed Varric. had to NOT SCREAM and wake up the whole house (my live reaction)
2nd almost scream moment was Harding getting her powers/almost falling off a cliff. TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT. Freaked out seeing her drop, music got to me, and the BRIEFEST flash of relief when she rose up but then DEEP DEEP CONCERN over that Exorcist shit.
wow the Tevinter Nights bingo is popping off. Lots of cameos.
wow ALL the dragon age bingo is popping off!! really happy to see things paid off after so much build up! the lore is good!!! (I believe this was in reference to the mural reveals about Mythal and Solas as spirits, the titans etc)
stoked we got Maevaris cameo and IMMEDIATE DORIAN cameo!!!! so happy!! The mustache is fab, he looks like a mean old queen, the beard could be better. i hate when they use standard hair models for beards: it isn’t the same texture. It works enough on Lucanis because it's dark but it being brown on Dorian you can see how the highlights are wrong.
love Neve for my Rook's Bestie. (whoops reading this after I let Minrathous get fucked up hard and she gets pissed at me for awhile...). Got a lot of approval with their similar dry/wry humor.
love puss in boo- i mean Lucanis
reluctant griffin Dadvrin. Really loved this because from trailers and intros I thought he would already be close to Assan, so I really enjoy that he is the reluctant custodian of this creature. I love a "we're both learning from each other" animal relationship.
Vorgoth is bae
not thrilled about a forced hardened choice but i’m trying to smooch Lucanis so i helped Traviso
will cry about Davrin codex naming Assan. Parenting and cat dad all in one ugh my heart.
Emmerich is super charming!! As a long time Vincent Price and John Waters fan I love his design and Vibe so much but he's much more Mr Rogers. Also I canNOT romance him as a young woman Rook. That man is GAY. Love his fear of mortality as a necromancer that's so fascinating and fun to explore.
Manfred is, of course, darling.
I. Love. Taash. I love an Autistically Blunt character. And cool to have the fire breather confirmation!!
Ok that's it for now! Next batch will probably have more spoilers going into plot and/or the positives and negatives of writing. Or I'll take a break and do my Rook Intro.
#blah blah blah#dragon age#dragon age: the veilguard#da:tv spoilers#dragon age the veilguard#dragon age the veilguard spoilers#spoilers#MY THOUGHTS on the first chunk of the game because obviously everyone cares soooo much about what my big beautiful brain thinks /sarcastic
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