#everyone complaining is ableist let me have this lol

[the-maggot-muncher]

rant time: disability and ableism

(don't worry there's a hopeful happy part at the end)

being disabled is a weird experience, just like in general. I have a disability that's more hidden than others, but it's still very real. i also have a mental disorder lol.

I hear ableist things all the time, even said directly to me. It's mostly from my grandma because we work together, yet it's still so awkward. Shes very judgmental and misinformed, and she's said harsh things to me about my own disability. Our boss is hiring two(2) new people for building, and they are both autistic, she thinks they shouldn't be allowed around power tools. if they had self/movement control issues then they likely wouldn't be going out of their way to do the job they're being hired for. It strange how utterly misinformed that she, and one of my coworkers who agreed, is. Her words are hurtful, and while she lived in another time, she still can't accept the change. And she has so much internalized ableism because she's growing older and medically disabled. It's so bad that she ends up hurting and pushing herself to prove that she's "stronger" or something, everyone knows she's strong, but she sees disability as so bad that she dreads it and hurts herself.

My own mother told me I wasn't disabled. She corrected herself and fully supports my disabilities, but for my own mother to doubt my issues just because I didn't fit a stereotype hurt.

There's also my aunt, a proud cancer survivor, who shamed me once for complaining about my disability. She told me I was being dramatic and that she wasn't bothered as a 50yr old woman who fought cancer, the activity we were doing was causing strain to my hips (i have hip dysplasia) and it was causing no strain on her whatsoever.

her partner is even worse, she grew up with tough love, so she gave me tough love. I have issues with social interaction and cues, shes made me cry a lot and refuses to change her language and style around me, knowing it hurts me. Our aunts take us on vcation every year, so we were having a conversation, somehow on the toipic of adhd. My aunts partner said something incredibly abelist(and also supporting child abuse) and i corrected her and told her that adhd is not something that can be BEAT out of children, it something in their brain. She decided to be the "bigger person" and say, infront of everyone, that I was a "bitch", im way too judgmental ad corrective, and that "thats the reason no one likes you". Safe to say i did shed a few tears. Yes, i correct people who are being abelist. However i also misinterpret social cues and "moods" and thought it was an actual conversation, i though as someone who was apart of the conversation was alowed to voice an opinion, didnt know that being anti-ableism and anti-abuse is bitchy. and i hav eproblems making friends because of my disability, and i also genuinely believe everyone hates me sometimes, because of my disability. the worst thing is that no one stood up for me, they just let her say terrible things to me. Thats how its always been, even when people see an injustice or something rude they just ignored it. It was a froup of 7, including my brother. And no one said anything reasssuring to me, she never apologized.

Also, my friend who knows exactly what my disability is, who is a complete asshole to me. when she gets mad or just bored shell completely shut down and ghost me irl. so much so to the point I've started crying multiple times and begged her to stop, she knows being ignored triggers my anxiety. she also likes to take things I care about (ie; my ceramics project for SCHOOL and my entire phone) and pretends to throw/drop them just to freak me out. She constantly tells me she hates me and gets pissed at me when she finds out that I was genuinely convinced she did. she speaks in very vague ways and refuses to elaborate, despite me not understanding social cues and asking for her to elaborate.

hatred is everywhere in this world, however, there are some safe places I've found.

I have a sole confidant, the one person who completely understands me, and listens. He respects me and assures me that he cares. He is also neurodivergent, so he somewhat understands, and even when he doesn't, he still treats we with respect.

When I started treatment for my anxiety I started talking more, my family was so proud of me, they praised me for opening up at family gatherings and they included me more. It was like I finally felt their love.

there are some good people in the world, people who care and love unconditionally.

[1randomweirdo]

Not everyone is going to like every piece of media (nor should they) but there's something very grim about looking for videos on YouTube, for example, about Rings Of Power, or Willow(2022), or SheHulk, etc and seeing almost nothing but hate videos. EVERYONE hates these shows?? Really? EVERYONE???

Again, I'm not saying your opinion is wrong or bad if you don't like it, but fuck man, do you really need attention so badly that you need to scream about how much you think something sucked? Especially if you have a very large following?

Or maybe it's the way so many seem to express their opinions on a show *as though it were fact* that's rubbing me the wrong way? I don't know.

Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to say "I didn't like this", but maybe don't be such a dick about it?* Because I am one-thousand percent certain that these shows were not made for me and only me. I am not alone in liking this stuff. So why are the crab ass' voices so loud?

* (I need to learn this lesson too; I went off on a tirade about a show whose first season I thought was amazing and whose second season I thought sucked. No one made me watch it; no one insisted that I have to like it, yet there I was, bitching about it [granted, I have a teeny, tiny following, mostly of personal friends, so it's not like I was review bombing said show. Still)])

I don't know, maybe this is just complaining about all the complaining, lol...

...

...And as I paused while writing this? I happened across a video. I wasn't looking for it, but it popped up: "Willow 2022 is perfect - I was wrong" Ha. A little hope perhaps?

TV is supposed to entertain us. Let's watch what we like and not watch what we don't **

**(there are, obviously, exceptions when that piece of media is actively harmful. In fact, this whole topic could be delved deeply into how these criticisms often skew racist/sexist/queermisic/ableist/etc, but I'm not at all qualified to offer insight into that - I'm sure some have done just that; I'd love to know who)

Anyway, don't harsh someone else’s mellow (when it's doing no harm) ✌🏻

[ravenousgf]

actually im seeing gifted kid ND discourse™ everywhere and its pushing my buttons so. here goes

ND people who were in the gifted program as kids/teens need to stop complaining about how it fucked them up.

being a 'gifted' kid is not harder than not being one.

the system fucks over everyone and even if it was harder for gifted kids to catch up later, they were never belittled for being 'stupid' (aka bad at school). and we need to recognize that students who didn't get the good grades had it worse.

the gifted kid program is racist and ableist and gifted kids were more often than not privileged and white along with being ND. as a girl w ADHD i get how frustrating it is to have a system that doesn't accommodate you define your worth by one specific facet of your intelligence!!! believe me, i do. and it all makes me furious!! the system fucked neurodivergent kids over.

but putting some of them in the gifted program wasn't the only way they did that. it was also how they created a divide on the basis of which several people define their self-worth. students labelled gifted had it hard because the system itself is hard for everyone. its built to be that way (hate it so much lol) and students in the gifted program got better opportunities and better treatment while they were in it. really in comparison it was the "best" group to be in.

honestly most importantly we need to talk about how the gifted program shouldn't exist. talk about destigmatizing mental illness and creating easy access to help for teens. let's stop framing neurodivergence in the context of an elementary/middle school cleverness group.

and just call yourself neurodivergent. saw someone say "gifted" kids struggle with emotional regulation and RSD and. dude. it's bc you're ND not because someone shoved you into the smart category at age 12. i don't think all people who say they were former gifted kids are trying to define themselves by the validation. but the term inherently is fucked up, it sounds ableist and pretentious, and not in the "i actually have critical thinking skills and read/listen to books" way. pick a different struggle, there's so many more to choose from when you're neurodivergent.

[xxtha-blog]

Traits People in the Fandom like to give Dream that instantly turn me away from their comics.

Wow, that's a long title. Okay, did you ever just want to hear me complain? If so, you came to the right place!

Im on a little salt bregade right now with my exasperation at lack of enjoyable Dream content in this fandom so this isn't some in depth analysis post or some if you give Dream these traits, you're a bad writer and need to stop. No. This is just a: here's some character traits people commonly write Dream with that severely conflict with the character I love him for, thus making me incapable of enjoying whatever 'Dream' they're writing because to me it doesn't look like Dream at all. And also why I don't like it and why I think this happens so frequently. And because this is just my opinion, you can either agree or ignore me. (And I mean, second one is a good option lol)

Jerkish - The classic asshole Dream. The one that says 'all this bad things that happened to me? Pffttsgsf I don't want to be a better person so I'm going to be a dick to everyone else.' This is probably the most common and usually comes with a lot of the other traits I'm about to mention

Sarcastic - This ones not that bad and if it's the only one I'll usually be fine with it, but he isn't sarcastic or passive aggressive, his closest trait to this is that he's stubborn. He's not going to shoot back something to make someone upset or because he's mad at them, even Nightmare, he's going to say something that might contend with someone for the purpose of making that person think about the bad or negative thing they're doing and won't stop until the person is either rethinking their originally negative position or is growing too negative for it to be rational to keep pressing and will try something else. In one it's a good intention, and with sarcasm it's this 'I need to get back at them and I don't care if it helps the situation or makes it worse' intention. And Dream is always the former.

Violent - The Dream that's always ready to get into a fight no matter what. Talking calmly? what's that?

Unsympathetic/Insensitive - this one is super easy to slip by the radar of a lot of people, so I often get people who ask me why I don't like certain ways people write Dream and it's usually because of this. This is him not understanding or sympathizing with someone else's situation even if it differs from his own, mainly for harmless things. People not wanting to do something because they're uncomfortable and Dream being written as trying to get them to do it to the point they get upset. A negative or toxic stubbornness, so to speak. Which really sucks because Dream is one of the sweetest most sensitive character I've seen and it gets rid of all that nuance.

Egotistical - :( I really don't like this one. It's your typical, I'm better than you, (usually toward Nightmare). It makes me sad. Combine unsympathetic and egotistical together and you get the jerk Dream that hates negativity and thinks negative people are bad.

Ableist - Hear me out, this isn't the same as people saying canon Dream is ableist for like, not being friends with Ink? (Wheeze). it's the type of Dream that purposefully targets someone's mental illnesses in cruel or unfair ways, usually Nightmare.

Neglectful - The Dream that says fuck protecting positivity lmao. And I need not say more.

Cowardly - The Dream that either won't own up to the problems he caused, pretends he never caused problems, and/or won't do anything to stop problems occuring.

Underhanded - the type of Dream that won't talk shit to someone's face but will make either subtly or blatantly mean comments about them behind their back.

Stupid - The type of Dream that makes decisions that will clearly cause the suffering of a lot of people for stupid reasons and/or the type of Dream that couldn't solve a 2x2 rubix cube and relies on everyone else to solve things for him because people think lack of knowledge = stupidity in the original. Which isn't true.

Selfish - The type of Dream that makes decisions that will clearly cause the suffering of other people for selfish or self absorbed reasons.

Controlling - I see this one so much and it hurts me. It's most likely due to people trying to make his desire to do good negative in this way, but directly conflicts with the fact it does no good if he becomes a toxic asshole with it. It's the type of Dream that won't let anyone do anything he doesn't deemed 100% positivity approved and becomes a toxic, controlling, manipulative asshole. Usually with a relationship bonus. ;')

Dense - Another negative stubbornness. A Dream that can't see when something's clearly making someone upset.

Overbearing - a branch of insensitive and stupid. the 'Everything is great! Isn't everything great! You're suffering? No! Everything is great and happy, be happy! I'm ALWAYS happy' Dream. Toxic positivity.

Irritable - The Dream that gets really angry at people for some reason? Normally because they're being negative or just not taking him seriously. This contends with Dream's canon in the sense that instead of getting angry he gets more sad/upset rather than some dry anger, and only when someone is being really cruel. I never like seeing a purely angry Dream. I'd rather him break down into tears, asking quietly why someone is doing this, instead of scream insults at them. Because we all know taking your anger out on someone helps solve problems and doesn't escalate situations.

Venegeful - The Dream that won't stop until the people who have wronged him or are doing wrong are either punished or dead. What's helping people be better, am I right?

Unforgiving - The Dream that never forgives people for wrongdoings and/or actively brings up past mistakes for no good reason, or just to get back at someone, usually to Nightmare. Often used as some moral superiority complex.

Smug - whenever he's right, he'll make sure you know it.

Overlycompetitive - the sore winner that wants to challenge people all the time, that'll rub it in their face when he's better. A subcategory of smug. This isn't to say canon Dream is never competitive, its just to say he isn't a dick about it.

I think a lot of people give them these traits because they think he's not 'flawed' enough. Like, they don't see to understand that 'good' traits can be flaws, or as we've seen here, think Dream's other good traits should be made into even more flaws, which directly conflict with his core morals and motivations.

I know a lot of people just write him like this for fun, and that's fine. I like Swap Dream by song-song-a actually, I think he's cool. There are a couple of exceptions where it's set up well enough that this isn't the Dream I know that I dont get fucking whiplash while reading. I'm not saying its wrong to write him like this, I'm just saying it's not enjoyable for me.

For the most part, it turns me away from the comic, or au, or am, almost instantly. I'm not interested in reading about Dream becomes an asshole edition 600. and it wouldn't be a problem for me if almost anyone wrote him well like every other character gets the liberty of.

Like, I also hate Chibi Blueberry but at least there's a ton of good Swap content out there so I'm not here talking about Chibi Blueberry lol.

Anyways, I'll probably add more traits if I think of any, so if you're trying to write Dream close to canon, you can use this as a what not to do post I guess. Otherwise enjoy my rant xD.

[laurelwinchester]

Do you ever get the feeling most of the Laurel fans still hanging around the Error fandom actually didn’t like her? If I hear the phrase “how Laurel should have been” in describing Siren or even this rumored new so-called E1 version of her from 8x1 I’m going to scream. It’s like they don’t understand at all that a meta cry and/or smart mouth aren’t the things that made/make Black Canary THE Black Canary. It’s her heart and bravery and kindness and resilience. 1/2

They always complain that Error Oliver is a shitty GA because his personality is nothing like canon Oliver’s. Yet it seems they really wanted the opposite for Error Laurel because they love Siren and Siren has nothing that makes her like canon BC except the meta cry and that’s the least important thing that makes Black Canary who she is! I’m honestly so offended on LL & KC’s behalf. 2/2

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you know what’s weird is that the other day i wrote out this whole post about how much i loathe when people say black siren is who laurel should have been from the start, but i deleted it because i thought it was too aggressive. 

but, sure, yes, let’s open this can of worms again lol.

however, let me put a cut here because i don’t want to be entirely exiled from the laurel fandom. like, i’m already a little exiled, but i don’t want to be voted off the island completely, you know?

also, disclaimer: i don’t care if you like both laurel and black siren. that’s cool. i genuinely hope you’re enjoying your fandom experience because everyone should. but i don’t like siren and i’m going to be critical of her here so if you like her, please just scroll on by. i truly do not want to upset people.

i also definitely do not think the entire siren fandom is worthy of this rant. but some of them are. i have not had a good experience with the fandom, but if you are not one of these fans (who are, it’s worth noting, mostly on twitter) then this doesn’t apply to you.

yes, i think one of the many things that makes me dislike black siren so much is that she has really illuminated the unfortunate fact that a disappointing number of laurel fans apparently didn’t actually like her very much. which is…incredibly disheartening, to be honest, because - well, let’s get this out of the way right now:

laurel is who laurel should have been from the start.

that’s it.

laurel was who she should have been. she never needed to be anyone else. not once. laurel was a whole person. she had emotions and opinions, she was a badass but she also cried and she was scared, she dealt with depression and addiction and grief in harrowing but realistic ways, she reacted to things like a human being, and she had this endless amount of compassion and forgiveness, this incredibly capacity for kindness and empathy. that was what made her dinah laurel lance. her humanity. that was what made her a near perfect dinah laurel lance.

but it turns out that wasn’t what some people were looking for in their black canary.

they wanted their black canary to hit things and use her canary cry, but never actually cry because crying is annoying and for the weak. and they definitely didn’t want her to live with mental illness because superheroes are supposed to be stronger than that, right? god forbid the black canary be depressed. can’t have that. and an addict? how shameful that the black canary could ever be thought of as a lowly addict, right? and all that forgiveness laurel had? nah, forgiveness is weakness. bitterness and cruelty is where strength comes from, right?

they wanted the Strong Female Character trope, the one they all complain about (as they should because it’s unrealistic and harmful) but secretly that’s all they want. and they got it in the end, didn’t they? they got their poorly written, shallow, ableist (blows my mind that nobody talks about how casually ableist black siren is, which leads me to believe they think she’s right so…yikes) character with none of the heart dinah laurel lance is supposed to have.

don’t get me wrong, katie cassidy is tremendous as black siren. i love her and i love that she’s thriving. it’s wonderful for her. but black siren is written as a flat character with nothing in common with who the black canary is supposed to be.

but hey, she’s got a canary cry so that’s literally all that matters, right?

it’s not like the black canary is more than her cry or anything. it’s not like she’s a whole person. nope, she’s just an ass kicking blonde with zero other defining characteristics.

jurnee smollett-bell knows that the black canary is all heart. her compassion is her biggest strength. that is her superpower. not her canary cry, not her fighting skills. her heart and her humanity. jurnee seems to know that. she has done her research. hearing her talk about dinah makes me feel incredibly hopeful and optimistic, like dinah laurel is in very safe hands with her. i trust black canary with her. i think we’ll get an amazing dinah from her.

laurel had all those things too. katie made sure of that in the beginning. she was, again, a near perfect dinah. but they killed her and replaced her with two depthless characters (who were literally created to replace and erase women, but i guess that wild misogyny is okay and we’re not supposed to talk about how gross that was) with absolutely none of the heart and the compassion that makes black canary who she is and it turns out the worst part about all of that is that apparently that’s what people wanted her to be “from the start.”

nothing more than some sneering trope with a sonic scream and a smart mouth and nothing else.

well, congrats to them. they got it. they won. the dctv black canary was fridged, her kindness was stripped from her, her empathy was erased, her compassion and forgiveness were replaced with smirking and sarcasm, unapologetic ableism, mindless ass kicking and screaming, and all we’re left with is some hollowed out shell. everything that makes her dinah laurel lance was violently ripped away from her and the audience has made it clear that they’re okay with that because things like kindness and heart are not what they want in their black canary.

so i hope they enjoy their soulless version of dinah laurel lance in the spin off. i’m sure it’ll just be top tier television.

me? i’m going to stick with the compassion and heart that laurel had. they can have black siren’s canary cry. i’d rather have laurel’s kindness. that’s who the black canary is to me. that’s who she always should have been.

[bluedino15]

Last , Last Thoughts on That Issue/ Why I'm just Disappointed in Both Sides

Disclaimer before I get stared: yup, I’m going back to THAT again. If you just want to see art on the Glitchtale tag and are sick and tired of this issue like I am, sorry for making you scroll a bit more so you don’t have to see this. I probably should just let this die because we’re pretty much off this, but I still see the occasional comment on twitch or on here, so I need to get this off of my chest. I’m going to try to not take a side, but if you’ve seen my other posts, you know I do believe that word could be seen as offensive, though not in context, but that it should be treated more carefully, and that I also do not hold much Ill will towards Cami (still slightly peeved) I will also have a section of this where I talk about not liking the use of SJW or triggered. But again, I’ll try being non-partisan here besides that.

I’m disappointed in both sides here. For people who found the use of the r-word offensive or troublesome, I’m disappointed in the lack of trying to peacefully reach out to Cami. It was clear she meant not to insult anyone mentally disabled and that she had no idea the word had a negative connotation in some parts of the world. Now, that wasn’t entirely clear when she first said the word and people might not know the word had no offensive connotation in Chile, but still, anyone who knows it as a slur should also know that some people use it like a standard Insult to mean idiot (such as younger kids do in America) because they are not aware of what it’s been turned to, and that the user is not trying to insinuate someone is a lesser being because they were born with a mental disability. So it was not right to say things like Cami was ableist (someone who hates the disabled) or that she was trying to be rude to anyone other than that kid. It also doesn’t help to get super angry and toss out other swear words like “fuck” or “bitch” left and right because it makes you harder to take seriously when you swear like a sailor while arguing with someone, and they are less likely to understand or want to compromise with you when you insult them. And finally, it doesn’t help to either a) try to act surperior or Talk down someone who you think is being a jerk because it makes you look egotistical, and b) don’t specifically insult Cami’s friends (however, overall being annoyed with people supporting Cami is understandable, which is what my next thing is about). Overall, if you act to rudely or intensely in trying to make your point or change someone’s mind, you only guarantee that people are less likely to agree with you, which means you are shorting your argument in the foot. And as someone who was making that argument, I’m really freaking angry at the people who made it impossible for the argument to go anywhere pleasant, and I feel sorry for anyone else who wanted to be civil while still disagreeing. While civility may not have changed anyone’s mind, it would have been better than what did happen, because now Cami’s probably never going to understand or empathize with people who don’t like the word.

Now, here’s my other point. I feel like Cami and some of her supporters got kind of–and yes, I will use this word despite the fact that it seems to piss off people on here–rude. Rude for understandable reasons, but still rude. It feels like, because There were people who were being equally rude at a stressful time in Cami’s life, she was too angry to be willing to compromise or be understanding. I just am bothered by the fact that everyone seemed to say stuff along the lines of “the word isn’t offensive at all to me/ check the context/ check the definition” and write it off there. And that’s what bothers me. People didn’t seem willing to understand that word really was seen as offensive to a decent amount of people. It seemed like Cami and a lot of her supporters felt that, if they couldn’t see offense in it, no one had a reason to get offended. And it’s fine that they Don’t get offended or see any problem with the word. But it would have been nice to see something like “okay, I still don’t think the word is offensive, but I understand why people are bothered by seeing it.” Instead, it felt like anyone bothered by that word was being treated like a baby who was calling Cami Hitler and saying the kid was better than her. So that led to some people immaturely using the word when being asked to stop, which feels like the verbal equivalent of a baby tossing their peas in their parent’s face when asked to eat them in terms of behavior. (I am not referring to Cami herself using it more because I get she only used it once, I’m referring to the fact that I saw other people saying that as if it made them comedic geniuses) there was also a few people saying stuff like “stupid Americans trying to make the world about them.” Forcing you to adopt the death penalty, use English, eat my food, or use the imperial system of measurement would be arrogantly forcing my culture on yours. Getting offended by something seen as an offensive word in my country which I have been taught not to use is the result of naturally carrying my national baggage onto an international stage. I’m not saying that means the American view that r-word is offensive is right, but if Cami makes the honest mistake of assuming the rest of the world doesn’t find it offensive, why can’t we make the honest mistake of assuming the rest of the world does find it offensive? Heck, asking “why is it like that in this country” instead of saying “this country is stupid then, because I know the way I grew up with is right” would allow for some discussion that lets us open to each other and increase our worldview. It would help you understand we don't just choose to get offended because we want to. Heck, maybe you have actually read about how the word became a slur and still think we're stupid. Fine. But at least don't write it off as us having no reason .

And here’s where I get to the part that I do become partisan. Why the hell is anyone who gets offended even when they aren’t personally insulted deemed an SJW these days? What the hell is wrong with worrying about someone else? I guess people would say “if they aren’t part of that group, they are misrepresenting it by trying to talk for them. Heck, I am a part of this group and I’m not insulted.” Five things: 1) what about people who actually, legitimately, understand the issue and want to defend that group. 2) how does not being part of that group stop me from having an opinion? 3) is it wrong of me to defend other people (and before you say “I could defend wrong” reread 1) 4) great if you aren’t insulted, but there are others who will be insulted. 5) defending a group does not mean you want attention, you can legitimately have feelings on an issue. This isn’t just applying to what happened with Cami. This is almost any freaking time I see someone use SJW, and I just happen to be here while I’m venting. SJW should be used for someone who is taking an issue where nobody has complained ever anywhere, making it an issue, and bringing nothing to back up their argument. That’s someone who you can be legitimately pissed off at because they want to make themselves a hero out of something truly meaningless to anyone.

Oh, also, for People who make the “Triggered” jokes. You know, that word refers to people who would actually have PTSD if they saw something that reminded them of an uncomfortable experience, like a soldier with PTSD hearing a gun or bomb. I get that a small number of people might appear to act that extremely. But getting offended by a word is not the same as that 99% of the time. And generally those people who get offended actually have a reason that it might help you listen to, instead of saying “lol, that person is upset, so I’ll make fun of them by doing something I know bothers them.”

Still I understand that she was angry, and already at a stressful time, and that there were people who were being too rude in their responses to her that word. They did not have the right to insult her like they did or act like surperior dickheads. And I understand why, emotionally, she would be unwilling to be less angry in her responses if a decent amount of the opposition wasn’t civil to begin with. And I get that I’m probably generalizing her reaction and I’m mistakenly assuming she didn’t literally mean people were calling her hitler. I was just bothered that some of her and her defenders counter responses seemed pretty rude and Inconsiderate. And that people who got angry at her were also inconsiderate by insulting her so rudely or acting like their position made them morally superior. It was stupid off them, and what lead to Cami insulting them in the first place.

And I don’t mean to imply Cami was weak for having an emotional response. Emotions are part of who we are. Obviously not everyone will be able to stay calm and fine at all times. Heck, I have one of the shortest fuses on the planet. I brought up emotions because I think people who chose to insult Cami were at fault for why she would be somewhat hostile.

TL;DR I feel like both sides here were not professional in how the r-word issue went down. I am Not expecting pure civility or happiness on the internet, and I understand not all arguments can be handled calmly and orderly, or that polite argument leaves everybody satisfied. I’m just disappointed because we could have still had that debate without drama or angriness, Even if we ended upcoming to the same conclusion as we did a few days ago. And sorry for anybody I might have thrown under the bus with a generalization, or if I assumed to much of the meaning behind what someone said. Also sorry if I ended up using loaded language in my argument or subconsciously made it anti-r-word usage despite trying to remain neutral.

Finally sorry for bringing this up if it starts the whole mess over again. If it happens, put the blame on me and my inability to not let shit die.

[super-rainbows]

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Rainbow: okay 1: I’m glad to get to talk to you, lol. but 2: tumblr is bad. I’m not gonna say “delete this tumblr”, but like. seriously. 

Ethan: *shrugs* I’m following like a few thousand people (or more). It would take forever to unfollow everyone who posts discourse or anything.

Rainbow: yeah.

Ethan: Not to mention, I don’t want to unfollow someone who’s like 90% good posts but 10% upsetting things.

Rainbow: yeah, I know. it would be pretty impractical to unfollow everyone who’s ever transphobic/exclusionary/ableist/whatever. and that would be a little similar to the people who are like “if you ever reblog any post originally written by anyone who follows anyone who’s ever written/reblogged/liked a Bad Post then you are also Permanently Bad!!” etc. your death tumblr is like 99.9% fine though, lol. you should just make a completely positive blog or something.

Ethan: Yeah, I have considered it, but I don’t know if I could completely stick to the theme(s) or if I’d completely avoid anything upsetting.

Rainbow: most people tag “discourse” though, don’t they? so you could blacklist that or any variants?

Ethan: I’m pretty sure there’s a ton of variants. I only know of “acecourse” and “syscourse”, but there must be one for like every community or subculture.

Rainbow: well, a lot of them don’t get their own name, so it’s not “shipcourse”, it’s just “discourse” (I think), and not “transcourse”, just “discourse” or whatever. (there’s too many things that one could be, anyway) I guess just see what people tag things like that as? idk. anyway, are you okay?

Ethan: Yeah, I guess. Are you?

Rainbow: yeah, idk. I don’t like the weird feeling.

Ethan: Me neither. I think it’s at least partially due to being in America? As in, it’s new and different so it’s disconnecting me/us from reality. It was the same whenever my dad visited before.

Rainbow: yeah, that is likely it. I hope it wears off before we go back. I don’t want it to be like this never happened.

Ethan: It does kinda make adjusting to things easier. :P

Rainbow: yeah, but it’s annoying for fun things to have just effectively never happened. also, just, weird feeling. I don’t like it.

Ethan: I know. *shrugs* I can’t control it or anything. I am trying, but nothing makes a difference.

Rainbow: I know. don’t worry. anyway, didn’t you want to write things, or at least think about it? lol

Ethan: Yeah, I’ve been trying. :P

Rainbow: to like mentally get yourself to do it?

Ethan: Yeah. I’m getting closer.

Rainbow: lol. (I’m not laughing at you as such, I do think you’re doing great)

Ethan: Thanks. :P

Rainbow: do you think caffeine pills are actually making you feel more in reality, or just making you feel a familiar kind of fucked up? lol

Ethan: I have no idea. I kinda lean more towards the latter.

Rainbow: I feel bad for that robot in this movie. D:

Ethan: I think we’re meant to feel bad for him. I think he’s the one good robot, or something like that.

Rainbow: ^ 

Jamie: This movie is confusing. I just don’t know who’s good and who’s bad.

Ethan: I think it would be easier if we were properly paying attention.

Jamie: I mean it reminds me of every season of Digimon: “AI is Perfect and Rational and humans are Bad and Impure and so humans must be destroyed” but then the humans win because of emotions or something and because destroying humans is actually bad. :P

Rainbow: lol

Jamie: Just, if AI is “objectively better” then why is it bad to destroy humans? It’s only bad from the humans’ point of view because humans have the emotions thing. The point I’m making is that they present “AI destroying humanity and taking over the world” as the objectively good outcome and give evidence for that, but then they’re like “actually no” because humans don’t like that idea. It seems inconsistent.

Rainbow: lol

Ethan: We (the audience) are meant to assume that destroying humans is bad (regardless of evidence) because we are humans. That’s basically it, I’m pretty sure. In the same way as people are expected to want the main male character and main female character to end up together, or whatever. As in, that’s what people are “supposed to” think/want etc. Except “humanity shouldn’t be destroyed” makes more sense to expect people to automatically think than “the guy and his friend who’s a girl should end up together”. (Though I do like it when people end up together)

Rainbow: !!! let’s complain about that movie we watched last night!

Ethan: Yes!

Rainbow: like?? the one movie ever where the guy and his best friend (who are of compatible genders+orientations) don’t end up together in the end also just so happens to be the one movie ever where they’re gay? like seriously?

Ethan: Exactly! As you said, in a straight movie, the two main characters remaining friends instead of being together would be good to see, because the being together in the end thing has been done a million times already. But a movie with two gay main characters has barely been done ever at all, so it would make more sense to let them have the cliche ending thing since that hasn’t been done before. “Let’s just stay friends” stops seeming progressive and seems more like a cop-out.

Rainbow: yeah exactly. though to be fair I didn’t totally get what they were saying.

Ethan: I’m pretty sure it was “let’s stay friends”, as opposed to “we should stay friends but let’s be together anyway”, because they hugged as opposed to kissing. Even if it was the latter, it was too ambiguous, I think.

Rainbow: if it was the latter I think that would’ve been good since they’d be calling attention to the potential issues.

Jamie: The good robot is actually bad, isn’t it?! Is it? Oh, wait, what? Oh, there it is, there’s the speech, lol. “humans must be destroyed because they’re irrational”. Oh!!! He is bad! I think?

Rainbow: didn’t she reprogram him though?? so like that would be what caused him to become bad?

Ethan: I think that’s it. This would be much less confusing if we were properly paying attention. :P

Jamie: Wait what? Was he just pretending to be bad???

Ethan: Oh, yeah, he was! He pretended so that he could get them away from the actual bad robot.

Jamie: Oh, okay. How are they gonna kill the robot when she like... Is the building?

Rainbow: why did they program gender into robots?

Jamie: lol. I think it makes it easier for humans, idk. The other robot can do it! Yay!

Rainbow: why do they all just... conveniently turn red whenever they’re being evil?

Jamie: Didn’t the guy who programmed them know they’d do that eventually? So he probably did that in order to make it easier to defeat them.

Rainbow: self-destruct button. remotely-activated self-destruct.

Jamie: lol

Rainbow: I’m just saying.

Jamie: I think it was too late by the time he anticipated that? idk