#even though i only know that ace attorney is the judicial system and pointing
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sticks-are-bones Ā· 2 years ago
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It would be so funny if the Luzu vs. Wilbur custody battle went down like an Ace Attorney game. Like, i have only really seen two characters from that franchise, that Phoneix Wright guy with the funky looking hair and the other gray haired guy who I take to be gay, but i can SEE luzu and wilbur taking their places and pointing dramatically.
like imagine this: The courtroom was silent. All anyone could hear was the panting of the two potential fathers, other than Charlie, who was busy enough with the voices in his mind.
Quackity looked back and forth from one to the other, silently examining their faces. He stroked TilĆ­n in a way that was uncharacteristically soft of him to do, hand gently caressing the cool surface of TilĆ­nā€™s shell, rather than the harsh promise of a chancla.
Rubius, the devilish angel he was, set a letter down on the courtroom table, exiting with a wink into someplace far, far away from the island. Far away, a man laughed.
The letter itself was nothing special. A plain, white envelope with nothing written on the outside, for it was what was written inside it that was causing anyone that actually cared to wait with baited breath.
Quackity picked up the envelope and slowly ripped it open, only for both Luzu and Wilbur to jump up and yell.
ā€œYour honour, thereā€™s been a mistake. You seeā€”ā€œ Wilbur began, only to be cut off by Luzu rapidly spitting out a string of Spanish.
The argument between Luzu and Wilbur grew in intensity by the second, and with all eyes on the case, well, there were no eyes on the children of the QSMP.
And so, that is how all the QSMP members got devoured by a mother dragon with rabies. However, they say that the argument continues even to this day, and if you step on the island, youā€™ll hear faint, yet fiery, whispering.
ā€œCabrĆ³n.ā€
ā€œIā€™m not coal!ā€
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thekillpetition-if Ā· 5 months ago
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Because i was already kind of concerned over the fact that we could just send a woman to potentially die just over the crime of cheating, I really appreciated that we could purposefully choose to lose. (I know that it turned out she didnt, but even if she had i mightve just thrown the case anyway lol) Just saying because i saw a lot of people that wanted to win, but i really like how you wrote the first case!
Not to compare your game to ace attorney too much lol, but as a huge fan of those games, I kinda see it like how edgeworth technically loses every trial because of how the game works, but hes no less intimidating and does his job fairly well, so I dont mind if we have to lose from time to time.
Really enjoyed the demo and cant wait for future updates!!
Yes! And being compared to Ace Attorney is always an honor lol because I was also a huge fan of those games.
Exactly though, even if MC lost, they still presented evidences and the truth. So it's not that they're bad at their work, they just happen to be in the wrong and that is ok!
Thank you for playing!! Glad you enjoyed it btw!
A little tangent but bear with me here:
Was writing Case 1, and there are already so many different things just from the (spoilers)
The point of this game is not to win indiscriminately... Being corrupt is not the point of this game, because one of the feature is for you to Peel back the veneer and uncover just how filthy your countryā€™s judicial system is.
two different ways you could lose from Case 0 lol.
So please guys, even if you can only win or only lose with varying degrees... There's still so much to work with and many different branching outcomes after the trial itself.
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youngbounty Ā· 4 years ago
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Why Miles Edgeworth is my Favorite Rival Character
I consider Miles Edgeworth my favorite rival character Iā€™ve seen thus far. Not to say there arenā€™t better rival characters in media or anime, but Iā€™d say that he certainly stands out among them and perhaps would be considered a top 5 favorite. Though, what makes him stand out as a rival is something that I feel is a huge improvement from the usual rival character trope. To explain this, I will contrast what makes a rival character different from an enemy.
The biggest mistake done, in most animes especially, is making the rival character the enemy or villain. The only thing that rivals should have in common with enemies or villains are that their beliefs or opinions oppose the ones the protagonist or the character the rival opposes. Itā€™s common knowledge that a rival will believe strongly in something that the protagonist strongly opposes. In Yu-Gi-Oh, the rival Seto Kaiba strongly believes that strength will achieve victory, while Yugi/Yami believes that a combination of skills their friends share will achieve victory. In Danganronpa, Byakuya Togami believes that everyone should play the killing game with the rules Monokuma set out as a means of survival, whereas Makoto Naegi believes that no one should participate or kill each other at all. In Dragon Ball Z, Vegeta believes in fighting in order to achieve victory, whereas Goku believes in fighting for fun and to protect his loved ones. These rivals have strongly opposing beliefs, much like enemies and villains, except that these views do not make these rivals horrible people. Many times, rivals can be a strong and reliable ally, because of their opposing views, unlike with enemies whose views are meant for nothing more than to create chaos and destruction.
The biggest problem I have with rival characters in general is that theyā€™re often placed as jerks or bullies. Iā€™ve found that rivals are more often vilified than they should. Theyā€™re often considered arrogant, selfish, smug and unlikable people. Byakuya Togami comes out as the kind of person that doesnā€™t care for the life of others or framing someone for murder for just simply annoying him. The other rivals in the Danganronpa sequels follow this trend of being unlikable, but Iā€™ll give Spike Chunsoft credit for making them more original than the rival architype ā€“ even though one is a sociopath and the other seems to have some sort of Antisocial Disorder. Seto Kaiba also comes out as an unlikable person and is much more unlikable in the manga, if you can believe it. This guy traumatizes his brother in the manga to the point heā€™d make Manfred Von Karma look sane by comparison and I wish I was exaggerating. Donā€™t get me wrong, I love Seto Kaiba, but Iā€™d be lying if I said he wasnā€™t the most unlikable person in existence. He also was a villain at first, which goes with the rival architype. Even though he did change throughout the manga and anime, the amount of cares he has for other peopleā€™s lives and taking responsibility for his actions that caused so many people harm is enough to make any politician blush. Donā€™t get me started on Vegeta, but at least he was willing to take responsibility for his actions in the Majin Buu Arc. Unfortunately, I donā€™t know anything about Vegeta after that Arch or have watched Dragon Ball Super, but anything in Dragon Ball Z, you can already guess on your own.
What makes Miles Edgeworth stand out is that, despite his opposing views, heā€™s not a horrible or unlikable person. Now, he was setup to be unlikable during Turnabout Sisters, but then afterwards, he starts showing himself to being a very good, selfless and likable person. Miles Edgeworth is the kind of person that will give you the coat off his back, help an elderly lady cross the street or sit by you at the lunch table when thereā€™s no one sitting with you. Even though Miles Edgeworth is dressed and can act smug at times, he constantly cares about other peopleā€™s feelings. Heā€™d be willing to take the blame for something someone else did, because he will find some reason to feel responsible for something he didnā€™t do. Miles Edgeworth is the kind of person youā€™d want as your best friend.
Miles Edgeworthā€™s views still oppose to Phoenix Wright, the main character, because he believes that trust should be earned and logic will always find the truth. Phoenix Wright, on the other hand, believes that trust shouldnā€™t have to be earned, but accepted until evidence proves their guilt, and magic can be another way of finding the truth. These are very opposing views, but they do not make either Phoenix or Miles horrible or unlikable people. Theyā€™re human and humans will always hold opposing views that clash. Phoenix Wright and Miles Edgeworth consider themselves friends and rivals because, while they hold strongly opposing views, they are also willing to talk or debate those views without thinking negatively about each other. Despite how much they oppose each other, they continually admire each other, because no matter how strongly they oppose each other, they still share the same goal in wanting to find the truth and deliver justice to the culprit.
It isnā€™t just Miles Edgeworth, the other rivals in the Ace Attorney games are also genuinely kind people that simply have opposing views or beliefs. Ironically, the characters that are considered unlikable or horrible people in Ace Attorney are the ones that are villains and those villains are the ones that try to force their own views into the judicial system or country. Itā€™s like Ace Attorney is saying ā€œyour opposing views are not what make you horrible, but your actions from your viewpoints.ā€ Even as the protagonist, you are never given any special treatment. If your friend betrayed and hurt you, it does not justify your actions in painting every prosecutor with a broad brush and the moment you present falsified evidence, even if you didnā€™t know it was false evidence, you will be the one to be judged the same way you judge everyone else. The only actions that cross the line to villainy is murder and betrayal. Theyā€™re actions that anyone with common sense will tell you and everyone universally will agree is wrong. Even actions such as breaking the law or falsifying evidence are questioned if those actions make someone a bad person. Are people like Lana Skye, the Yatagaratsu, Ron DeLite or Godot considered bad people, because one falsified evidence, two are thieves and the last killed someone?
It might seem Iā€™m going on a rabbit trail, but the main point of this is that someone like Miles Edgeworth stands out as a rival, because he teaches us something that is hardly ever tackled in other media. Having an opposing opinion or belief does not make you a bad person. Miles Edgeworth holds strong opposing views that people these days would consider to be hateful and therefore a bad person, but he isnā€™t. Heā€™s one of the kindest people youā€™ll ever meet and thatā€™s a fact too many people find hard to swallow. Miles Edgeworth may be the kind of person that canā€™t trust everyone and wouldnā€™t be afraid to expose someoneā€™s childhood trauma, but he is also the kind of person to take responsibility for his own actions. He doesnā€™t allow his trauma to justify his corrupt decisions heā€™s lived by for the past 15 years and five years of his career. The fact his PTSD is never brought up farther proves that Miles Edgeworth is not the kind of person to play victim or allow it to justify the number of innocents heā€™s placed behind bars or led to be executed. Not even being brainwashed under his corrupt mentor that murdered his father is ever used to justify his actions.
Miles Edgeworth teaches us how to be responsible individuals. If youā€™ve done something wrong, take responsibility and never use your tragedy or disability as an excuse. Apologizing is a good start, but you should strive to become a better person than you Ā once were. Never label someone as a bad person for having a different opinion than you. That person may become your best friend you strive to become one day. If there is someone that is treating you horribly, be an example of what they should be. Fight anger with love. If there is someone in trouble or danger, protect them, but never stoop to the same level as your adversary. If someone brings up something horrible you did in the past, never allow that to define you. Only you can decide what you will do in your life and people watch you, so make sure every action you make and words you say reflect the person you strive to be.
So many rival characters are very beloved by a majority of the fandom, but only a few are the kind of people everyone should strive to be. I consider Miles Edgeworth a rival that everyone should strive to be. The fact he is a beloved character in the Ace Attorney fandom makes me happy, because he is a character everyone should strive to be. I canā€™t say the same for Seto Kaiba, Byakuya Togami and especially Vegeta. All of them are horrible people that do horrible things and are treated as such. Having a rival that isnā€™t a horrible person, even treated as such, is a breath of fresh air. Now, I do consider Green, not Gary, from PokĆ©mon another rival that only has opposing views and isnā€™t a horrible person, but most people often look to Gary when they think of Green and the mangas arenā€™t as popular as the anime. Iā€™d like to see more rivals that arenā€™t horrible people with that ā€œI am greater than thouā€ attitude.
Donā€™t get me wrong, Iā€™m not complaining about Seto Kaiba, Byakuya Togami or Vegeta. I do like their characters, but I also know theyā€™re written as horrible people nobody likes. Vegeta was written as an alien that tried to destroy Earth and is now forced to live in it, because his planet was destroyed. Seto Kaiba isnā€™t written to be a good person either, unless being obsessed with revenge and taking it out on the protagonist, who had nothing to do with it, is considered a likable trait. Now, Byakuya Togami does strive to become a better person later on, but thatā€™s mostly because heā€™s trying to survive an apocalyptic world and he often changes his strategy depending on the situation. If thereā€™s one person that wants to kill everyone, he will trust no one but himself. If he sees that no one wants to murder anyone, he will lead them to victory. Unlike Seto Kaiba and Vegeta, Byakuya Togami was written to be a likable or unlikable person depending on where you stand with him. Spike Chunsoft did a really good job with his character and I like how, if you were to spend all your friendship links with him, you can go from being his antagonistic rival to being the best man heā€™ll hire as his secretary as a way to rebuild his company. So, donā€™t mistaken me using them as examples of the rival architype as my way of trashing their characters, because they are some of the best written characters and I consider Vegeta and Seto Kaiba legendary.
The point of this is to demonstrate what makes Miles Edgeworth one of the best rival characters. As characters, the rival architypes can be used very cleverly, but my issue is that theyā€™re considered rivals that are vilified. In real life, not every person you fight or debate with are your enemies. Most of the time, your enemies are the kinds of people you donā€™t want to or should fight with. Theyā€™re the kinds you want to avoid approaching or else someone will get hurt. Rivals are those you want to fight with in order to become a stronger or better person. Byakuya Togami is debatable, but Iā€™d never want Seto Kaiba or Vegeta to be my rivals or someone Iā€™d want to fight with in a million years. Theyā€™d just make me a bitter person, because all they want to do is win against the one person they canā€™t defeat and seem to become better people once the person they are obsessed in defeating dies. Iā€™m not kidding either. Vegeta and Seto Kaiba literally start becoming better and more responsible people once Goku and Yami bite the dust. How is someone a good rival when they only get better and stronger once their opponent dies exactly?
The idea of a rival is for them to be an opposition to the protagonist that makes the both of them better and stronger people. Miles Edgeworth and Phoenix Wright help each other become better and stronger people through their oppositions. They only become weaker once they are apart from each other. This is the kind of relationship rivals should be. Theyā€™re the kind of people that will drag you out of bed after being beaten by a gang of thugs just so you both can beat them up together or send you to hell and back for giving up. Thatā€™s the kind of relationship Phoenix and Miles have. Theyā€™re not afraid to bite each other or show tough love when needed. Theyā€™re not the kind of people that bring toxicity and no one should ever consider anybody thatā€™s obsessed with fighting or defeating them as rivals. Those people are toxic and should never be associated with. Luckily, Yu-Gi-Oh does create nontoxic rivals (like Jack Atlas, who isnā€™t toxic, tries to become a better person, helps Yusei become a better person and is actually a good person and not a selfish ass) and Vegeta does get his act together after the Majin Buu Arc, though I donā€™t know about Dragon Ball GT or Super. As for Byakuya Togami, he goes from being a rival to being Makotoā€™s boss and Makoto being Togamiā€™s doormat, so I consider that an improvement overall.
You donā€™t have to agree with these, but I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
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