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incesthemes · 5 months ago
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like ok you ever notice how all of these monsters who try to lure sam down the path of his own monstrosity seem to either embody or parallel dean? isn't that crazy? great. now consider ruby and lucifer specifically ok. ruby acts like dean and models behaviors for him so that sam can learn how to be "like dean" from her. dean is dying, sam thinks he needs to be more like his brother to survive, and so ruby uses this anxiety to get sam under her thumb by exemplifying Dean-Like Behavior (specifically the dean-like behavior sam notices and admires). in doing so she leads him further away from dean and closer to lucifer instead.
in the end, ruby is an allegory of sam, though. but she's an allegory of a sam who wants to be like his brother. it's a specific mindset, similar to the way bela is a season 3-specific allegory of a dean who can't outrun fate. sam's interactions with ruby are therefore masturbatory in nature, but of course filled with desire for his brother. he's fantasizing about dean while fucking himself.
at the same time, though, this reveals something about dean. because ruby is a manifestation of what sam sees in dean. and therefore it reveals an inherent monstrosity to him. ruby is a demon, innately bad, and so dean, whether sam is conscious of it or not, harbors that same innate evil. this relates back to the ongoing dichotomy between sam and dean where sam has something bad inside of him, but dean is something bad. born to hunt, uniquely and intuitively good at killing, all instinct, capable of violent cruelties sam can't fathom and which scare even dean himself. hunting makes a monster (a theme which is proposed in wendigo, dean's introduction episode), and dean is the best hunter of them. ruby manifests dean in all the ways that matter, even down to the fact that she is a monster.
this also extends to lucifer too; there are plenty of parallels in the narrative that connect them—they occupy similar roles for sam and represent physically the paths he can follow, and so naturally they will share narrative characteristics. they hold a similar level of influence over sam because they are one of two end goals in his life. but in the end, lucifer is an allegory for sam the same way michael is an allegory for dean. nevertheless, the fact that ruby in particular uses dean's likeness to draw sam toward lucifer inheres that lucifer and dean are not so dissimilar: the best lies are based on truth. and through these parallels dean's innate monstrosity is once again highlighted in its ongoing theming of the show. that monstrosity can be a lot of things, especially since all of this is filtered through sam's perspective: the rot of family, codependency, violence, trauma, incest, desire. sam has all of these inside of him too; the difference between them is so, so slight. and especially if you go the incest angle, because incest is depicted as synonymous with physical monstrosity so often in this damn show, idk it all comes together For Me. their sin is not their violence but their desire (yet they are the same). sam's desire goes one of two ways (independence or codependence), but it always leads back to dean.
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aliusfrater · 1 month ago
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sam favorite intercourse position
sorry about the illustrations i don't really like the art styles but i'm too lazy to get caps rn, and they get my point across. based on what he Does in the show i can tell you which ones he seems to automatically reach for:
variations of this standing one he does with madison in 2.17, cara in 4.14, and a woman we never get to know the name of in sam's soulless!sam flashbacks in 6.13
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and variations of this sitting one he does with madison in 2.17, and is something ruby initiates in both 4.09 and 4.16
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based on his own fantasies in 3.10 with bela and 10.19 with rowena in conjunction with the chemistry in certain other sexual scenes, i personally think he likes going for whatever the women he's having sex with want with little tweaks of what he specifically can do for her in the moment wrt to their circumstances like when he put a blanket down on the leather in the impala for piper and tried to give her his phone number so i don't think he has a 'favourite', he kind of just goes for whatever's best for the situation. especially so as you can see in 4.14 and 6.13 when they use their surroundings pretty adequately for the sex lol
also i don't think the dynamic would change much if he were to have sex with someone with a dick as in he'd be pretty service about it regardless of the dynamic unless the service is literally that the other person wants him to take OR defaults to being an extension of a dynamic they already have plutonically or romantically BUTTTT. i do think he'd like this one as a bottom:
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but with one hand either on a nipple or his dick and the other hand around his throat instead. i also think he'd like to be bent in half in missionary or on his tummy. as a top i think the same rules apply as they do above but specifically because he likes to hide his face in their necks ^0^
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kerryweaverlesbian · 2 months ago
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tagged by @astralpenguin (see their post here) to share the first lines of ten of your latest fanfics (or up to if you have fewer) and tag ten people
These are, unsurprisingly, all for Supernatural lol.
When I was someone else...| trans woman!dean | 8k
Dean wakes up, in the loosest sense of the term, at her usual 6am.  It's an hour before her alarm, set in hope that some day she'll get to an 8 hour stretch. 6 uninterrupted would be an improvement. 
Sammy's Big Mommy Milkers | samwena breastfeeding | 2k
Rowena had been milking him for a few days, now.
Blood. Face. Concrete.| jo/meg humiliation kink | 2k
Blood. Face. Concrete. A combination all too familiar for a hunter of her caliber.
By Any Other Name | Ruby & Meg & Ava | 8k (wip)
"Winchester again, huh?" 
The Empirical Gentleman | butch!Ketch/butch!Cuthbert experimentation kink | 2k
"So, you're a woman of science?" Ketch asks, proffering his empty glass for another pour of the finest scotch he'd ever tasted.
Death By... | Billie/Tessa/Lily Baker | 2.5k
The message comes through, written in frost over the blade of Billie’s scythe while she peruses her library: I need some help.
My Sweet Little Kitty | SarahBela | 655
Bela pulls on the pink leather leash attached to Sarah’s pink leather collar dragging her up to sit on her lap, making her look at them both in the mirror with Sarah grinding on her thigh. 
I think we're beautiful | DeanCassie, transfem Dean | 2k
It’s one of those long golden summer evenings, the sun making love to the horizon for hours and kissing over Cassie and Dean where they’re laid out on her bed.
It's Good To Be Queen | Marywena, cockwarming | 801
“That’s it, pet,” Rowena soothes, running her hand over the raggedly cut blonde hair of the woman kneeling before her throne, “You stay where you are, there’s a good girl.”
Veiled in Flesh | Kelly/Naomi/Duma, noncon breeding | 2k
Kelly's floating in a warm expanse of color.
I think that's 10...hm! I'm happy with all of these as openings. In my drafts I often start on dialogue, and for shorter works (this overlapped onto spndykesexweek) I tend to keep it that way. I'm especially pleased with the I think we're beautiful one, I think it captures the mood very efficiently.
Tagging (no pressure): @castielafflicted, @faithdeans, @payphoneangel, @disabled-dean, @butch--dean, @roublardise, @mrcowboydeanwinchester, @shallowseeker, @casdeans-pie, @explainslowly
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llorom4nn1c · 1 year ago
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♡ A guide to emo, goth, and scene! ♡
So since I see a lot of confusion over certain subcultures are and the differences between them, I thought I would make somewhat of a master post basically outlining the characteristics and differences of three aesthetics that I see misinterpreted a lot. If I do at any point get something wrong, feel free to correct me because I really don't intend to spread misinformation.
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🎀 Emo
Emo is a music based subculture that first emerged in the 80s out of the hardcore scene. The name emo came from the music genre emocore, which was short for emotional hardcore. The fashion is typically pretty casual, with some staples being straightened and teased hair with a sideways fringe, black clothing, band shirts, arm warmers, sneakers, skinny jeans, fishnets, arm warmers, wide leg pants, studded belts, and merchandise from various properties like Emily The Strange, Nightmare Before Christmas, and Ruby Gloom.
Since the early days of emo, the music in the subculture has expanded outside of hardcore and post-hardcore, and has since gone on to include alternative rock, horror punk, metalcore, pop punk, and screamo. Some of the most prominent artists in the scene are Avril Lavigne, Blink 182, Fall Out Boy, Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Panic! at the Disco, Paramore, Pierce The Veil, and Sleeping With Sirens.
Since the subculture is mainly music based, fashion is not as important to being considered part of the scene. Therefore, not dressing in a specific way while listening to the music wouldn't make you a poser, but dressing emo while not listening to the music would. What is not considered emo is listening to a random genre of rock music. Bands like Metallica and Nirvana, while enjoyed by many emos, are not emo bands and therefore don't make someone emo. Furthermore, I can't believe I need to say this, but, contrary to what many people seem to think, kawaii people are also not emo. While it is common for kawaii people to listen to metal and other heavy music genres, their style is not at all similar to emo and they don't consider themselves as part of the subculture either.
🎀 Goth
Goth is probably the oldest subculture here, with it dating back to the 70s English punk scene, with bands like Siouxsie and the Banshees and The Cure pioneering the culture. The post-punk band Bauhaus' debut single 'Bela Lugosi's Dead,' a song inspired by the famous horror actor Bela Lugosi, who portrayed Dracula in the 1931 film adaptation and also starred in White Zombie which is a film that's typically referred to as the first zombie movie, is often considered the first gothic rock song.
Goth is a subculture with many different sub-subcultures. Some of the most popular are batcave, bubble goth, cyber goth (formerly referred to as gravers), death rock, mall goth (formerly known as spooky kids), nu goth, romantic goth, steampunk, vampire goth, and, my personal favourite, gothic lolita. Contrary to what many people think, I don't consider aesthetics like pastel goth (which I do love) to really be a part of goth since it doesn't have roots in goth. Obviously I'm not going to go over every substyle because that would take way too long and would have to require its own post, but some common staples in most of these styles is lots of black, horror-inspired imagery, very big teased hair, black or red lipstick (red was the most common in the earlier days), and very pale almost white skin. Therefore, e-girls and emos (e-girls especially) are not goth. Also, the fetishisation of the 'big tiddy goth girlfriend' is very demeaning and offensive to goths, as well as just not funny at all because of how it objectifies and reduces them to simply walking breasts who wear black.
Goth music is, in my opinion, some of the most accesible and palatable alternative music. The most popular genres are dark wave, electronic rock, gothic rock, industrial metal and rock, new wave, and post-punk. Some of the most popular bands are Bauhaus, Evanescence, Joy Division, Marilyn Manson, Rammstein, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Birthday Massacre, and The Cure.
🎀 Scene
Scene is an aesthetic that originated in the 2000s on the website MySpace as a derivative aesthetic to emo. Many scene kids were considered emo posers because of their unconventional style and the music they listened to, which included genres ranging from crunkcore to metalcore, often being considered 'trashy' by other subcultures. Despite all of the hate towards scene kids, many embraced their label and many of the most popular people in the subculture started being known as scene queens who are also often credited as the first influencers. This included people such as Ambrehhhisdead, LedaMonsterBunny, and Melissa Marie Green.
Some staples to the style are colourful clothes, straightened and teased hair with colourful raccoon hair extensions, the scene swoop fringe, brass knuckles or diamond necklaces, bows, leopard print, zebra print, colourful shorts, tutus, tight clothes, sunglasses, knee high converse, band shirts, and merchandise of characters like Gir from Invader Zim, Gloomy Bear, and Hello Kitty. Personally, I would consider the modern rendition of scene, scenecore, to be a different aesthetic that, while it is pretty similar to scene, typically borrows from aesthetics like glitchcore rather than emo or mcbling.
Scene music is pretty diverse in what it provides, as it ranges from very heavy genres such as deathcore and metalcore to more pop and rap adjacent genres like crunkcore and neon pop. Some of the most prominent artists are 3OH!3, All Time Low, Asking Alexandria, Blood on the Dance Floor (unfortunately), Bring Me The Horizon, Brokencyde, Cobra Starship, Dot Dot Curve, Jeffree Star, Ke$ha, Metro Station, and Millionaires. A lot of the music is known to ignore many of the typically conventions of music, with the lyrics often containing themes relating to partying and sex.
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That's it, byeeeee! ˚。⋆୨୧˚♡
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normalbrothers · 8 months ago
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spn or asoiaf for the meme!
@winged-cries also asked for spn
thank you both <333
my favorite female character: at least up to the season i watched i don't think there were super permanent female characters that would let me think of them as 'favourite' characters, however i liked most of them. bela and ruby stand out to me, though, and especially with bela i wish she could have returned in some way :'( cassie robinson was a great one episode character as well. dean really loved her ;~;
my favorite male character: dean, and it's no contest
my favorite book/season/etc: the first three seasons had the best vibe, and i think i always liked the second one the most.
my favorite episode (if its a tv show): on the head of the pin! a classic!
my favorite cast member: a much debated question, i don't really think i have been invested in any of the actors outside of their roles, but j2 are hilarious at cons, i give them that
my favorite ship: well, the obvious answer is wincest. but i also have a tender spot for dean/john
a character I’d die defending: those days are past for me, it's fun to see though that the same annoying takes circulate today that where hotly discussed ten years ago as well. the circularity of fandom discourse ... thank god i'm doing this in another one and it's me talking to myself mostly
a character I just can’t sympathize with: can't say this is true for any of them, though admittedly i was never very invested in castiel's whole thing (nevertheless, the man who would be king was a good episode? that i think about sometimes?).
a character I grew to love: bobby lol
my anti otp: sastiel is like a huge reactive cope ship to me, but i also don't have any feelings about it. have fun with that i guess
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my favorite female character: sansa ... my darling sansa ...
my favorite male character: tyrion, i think, he's a fantastic character, though i think generally speaking i like the cast of women and girls just more, i don't have that many feelings about the guys.
my favorite book/season/etc: a feast for crows (not a very unique answer to be fair)
my favorite episode (if its a tv show): well the equivalent would be the chapters; sansa's are a always a delight to read, but as above, i like reading the female povs the most.
my favorite cast member: /
my favorite ship: i don't read these books with shipping goggles i'm afraid, but i think jaimecersei will always reign supreme for me
a character I’d die defending: sansa, i guess, though i think the hate for her abated over the years, unless you go into the really weird corners of the fandom
a character I just can’t sympathize with: he's certainly more than a one note villain, but littlefinger ... idc, i think if twow ever happens it would be funny if he like, died right in the middle
a character I grew to love; jon's chapters used to bore me, but i've grown fond of his cattiness. i'm genuinely curious how the parent reveal will play out for him psychologically tbh
my anti otp: idk it's all good tbh
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boykingscourt · 5 months ago
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who r ur favorite antagonists
azazel, meg (especially nicki aycox meg), gordon, bela, lilith, alastair, lucifer before he got annoying, zachariah, peepaw campbell, eve, gadreel, ig metatron because while he was annoying at times he was also one of the last entertaining ones before they all got mid, amara
rowena and crowley when they were antagonists and also when they weren't
special shoutout to ruby for being the best of those sons of bitches but her role wasn't antagonistic in terms of how it served the story for the most part
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mariailoveyou-guerin · 7 months ago
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Who’s ruby? The girl in red in cowboy party kissing new leighton? Oh is she the one that’s moving in with the girls and she starts dating with the new leighton it all makes sense now they need to replace the lesbian with another lesbian because they can’t all be into guys 😂
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god forbid they make a bi black characters in media 😂 they really can’t unless a black character isn’t just gay or lesbian obsessed with yt guys they are straight and obsessed with yt guys and sometimes bipoc but that’s like 1-2% of the time so don’t even count it anymore😔
they don’t ever make biopic anything but lesbian/gay so I’m kinda shocked they even going there with Bela especially in mindy show considering no one is more obsessed with putting woc with the whitest of yt men aside from shonda and that Hanna lady kfc but mindy is at the top of the top like that’s her 🍞 🧈 for sure tho
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witsserviceablesubstitute · 6 months ago
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Lisa had potential but she's used as a symbol for Dean's domestic fantasy, like Jess is Sam's, and her scenes end up being more about Ben or Dean than her. Supernatural keeps her and Ben so firmly in a corner that it starts feeling like they belong on a different show, and though she was there for a few seasons I barely know her at all. Especially when I compare her to characters like Meg, Ruby, or Bela.
Supernatural has a big Madonna-Whore issue (for better or worse) and that's why I love Mary so much. She started out as a Madonna and over time the show sketched her into someone bitterly complex. But Lisa and Jess never move past being Sam and Dean's idealized domesticity and it's a shame when I know the show can do better when it tries.
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angelinthefire · 1 year ago
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As someone who's been around the fandom longer than i, what do you think of the claim that destiel shippers were the reason female characters got killed or kicked off the show? This seems to be a really common narrative in gen fandom spaces like r/supernatural but there's never any mention of wincest shippers and idk I find it kind of dubious. I mean obviously when it's applied to characters like bela or ruby it makes no sense but what about others? Like the claim usually goes oh they could never keep around a love interest for either of them because the hellers would throw a fit but did that happen? Usually it's brought up with Jo, Lisa, Meg, and Hannah. I know that is not actually why Meg left the show, but what about the others? I also know Alona and Cindy Sampson in particular are cited as receiving harassment for their roles but did this actually have anything to do with destiel seeing as it wasn't that popular of a ship back then? I only started watching in 2014 when destiel was the biggest ship and it never seemed to me like they were trying to set up romances that were shot down by the fans. I mean did anyone actually expect hannah to be an endgame love interest? And no one really makes this claim about Amara either. And it also wouldn't apply to characters like Charlie or Missouri either who both still got killed off. Idk I've just been seeing a lot of narrative recently about fans being primarily responsible for the killing off of female characters but I feel like it's shifting blame a bit, even more so to apply it solely to destiel fans (I mean did destiel get Sarah Blake killed??)
Yeah blaming destiel shippers is ridiculous. Destiel shippers didn't even reach preponderance in the fandom until s8. The worst of the misogyny of the fandom was solidly concentrated in the first half of the shows life. Attitudes changed as societal attitudes changed, and as the show itself finally broke down and developed more of an ensemble cast.
The wincesties/bronlies were always far more venomous when it came to characters who threatened to get between the bros. No matter the gender. As can be seen from the segment that tried to keep Misha from coming back. Were there destiel shippers who hated on Meg or Anna or others? Yes, but to a degree that is pretty typical across fandoms, especially in the 2000s. Not to the degree that they actually tried to launch a campaign to get any actors fired. Which, again, is what bronlies did to Misha.
In general I think it's incorrect to blame the fans for female characters being killed off. If the writers are committed to a character and a vision and it's working for them they can make it work for the audience too. The thing with Jo and Bela is that, to my understanding, their existence is the result of network notes to try to include more female characters, so Kripke was never super committed to them in the first place.
You point out why Hannah and Meg don't make sense as examples. Alona's role was in s2, and in s5 she was basically brought back in order to be killed off. Same thing with Sarah Blake, which is a useful counter example. She was also brought back to die. Since neither of them had a recurring role when they were killed off, it doesn’t make sense to blame shippers. Again, it's the writers deciding that the most useful thing a female character can do is die to further the main characters' motivation.
Few people liked Lisa at the time s6 aired, she was seen as boring and as detracting attention from the brothers.
I think there's a relationship between the sexism of the writers and the fans. When the writers don't care about characters and see them as fridging material, fans can pick up on it. And then fan hatred of the character is cited as an excuse to write them off. This is a simplification, I do think there are parts of spn fandom that are particularly toxic, but I also think it's true that fan opinion is never the only reason why writing choices are made.
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incesthemes · 9 months ago
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Happy Wincest Wednesday! I have my first appointment for HRT today (eeeee) so everyone's getting the same question: thoughts on trans wincest? Is it something you like to think about? How do you trans the Winchesters? Which one(s) and which way(s)? And of course, most importantly: how does that impact the sex?
happy wincest wednesday, and congratulations!!! that's so exciting 🥰 wishing you a fulfilling and easy process :)
as for transchesters... honestly i'm not a fan, lol. i don't see either of them as being emotionally intelligent or vulnerable enough to even begin questioning their gender, especially since they grew up in a space that absolutely did not allow for something like that. in a chronic survival situation surrounded only by extreme displays of masculinity and both men and women who are deeply traumatized and lack the emotional capacity for something as intimate and vulnerable as gender exploration, all the while lacking any sort of resources or education on queerness in general, i truly cannot see dean or sam ever even considering the potential for them to be anything other than the men they were raised as.
this, of course, has caveats:
a lot of the recurring themes in supernatural revolve around the performance of masculinity, and specifically sam and dean's failure to perform masculinity adequately. so many of their allegories are feminine: dean is mary, sam is jo, sam is ruby and meg, dean is bela, so on and so forth. they have plenty of masculine allegories as well, but take, for example, gordon as an allegory for dean: he's not so much representing who dean is, but who he should be, and he symbolizes a dean who didn't fail at life. bela, while being an equivalent allegory for dean's fate in season 3, represents the inevitability of that fate and therefore the inescapability of dean to become her. gordon is who dean fails to be; bela is who dean can't avoid becoming.
so on and so forth.
as a result, there is an undercurrent of genderqueerness that saturates sam and dean's story. they consistently fail at masculinity, and oftentimes this failure is actually portrayed as something good—take, for example, john as the ideal of masculinity for both sam and dean, since he is the only reasonable real-life model of it, them being isolated from society. if john is the masculine ideal, then dean consistently turning away from john in season 2 and beyond represents a turning away from masculine performance, and this is undoubtedly a good thing because through his rejection of his father, dean avoids succumbing to his fate. it's when he correctly performs as his father (by selling his soul to revive sam) that he makes the wrong decision, and then he must undergo the rejection process once again in season 3 to return to an acceptable state of being. sam, too, performs as his father by pursuing revenge and thus his fate, and this is a dangerous path to follow. it's only when they both reject john, the masculine ideal, that they can achieve the "correct" paths for themselves (no matter how internally destructive).
john is kind of a unique character overall tbh, since he is at once the masculine ideal and the ultimate representation of fate. it links these concepts together, and so every time sam and dean are fighting against fate, they are equally fighting against the construction of masculinity. don't be like your father; be something else. the message is then genderqueer, and the story does commit to this message through its use of feminine allegories and by encouraging the constant undercurrent of questioning the masculinity of them both in various ways—the gay jokes, the joking accusations of femininity or failed masculinity, dean's odd fetishization of young girls that seems to reflect a desire for girlhood himself. so on and so forth. i can't imagine kripke actually intended for his red-blooded characters to be read as genderqueer, but that's the silly thing about a lot of queer narratives 🤪
so basically, i don't realistically think that sam or dean would ever come to a point in their lives where they would even conceptualize a desire to be something other than masculine, much much less identify themselves as anything other than "man" (and they would definitely be the types, dean especially, to get reactionarily offended at someone calling them cis or asking their pronouns). at the same time, i think their failure to adequately perform the masculinity of the hunter world creates a genderqueer narrative for them, and their series-long struggle against fate (especially with john as the representation of it) can be seen metaphorically as the struggle against masculinity itself—and interesting, too, that the only other option they have presented to themselves, the option they have to choose to avoid their fates, is one of love and intimacy, traditionally feminine domains. they can pick masculine violence and become cain and abel, michael and lucifer, or they can pick feminine love and reject masculinity, reject their father, reject manhood altogether.
tl;dr they're not trans imho because they would never identify that way, but that doesn't mean they don't have something gender going on. if you get what i mean.
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snnynaturalarch · 1 year ago
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spn for the fandom meme ;D
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send me a fandom and i'll tell you...
tagging @malka-lisitsa for sending the same fandom
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The  first  character  I  first  fell  in  love  with:
the way i fell inlove with both sam and dean at the same time rekjgsbjregb i'm a whore.
The  character  I  never  expected  to  love  as  much  as  I  do  now:
ruby....at first watch, i was annoyed. but honestly? rewatches?? i actually adore her.
The  character  everyone  else  loves  that  I  don’t:
claire........... i do like the arch she has as being the consequence for cas's actions, but aaahhh I'M SORRY.
The  character  I  love  that  everyone  else  hates:
bela. i'm sorry, but she deserves fucking better. and my bro in law and his bestie said that i could be their bela in their trio and i SOBBED.
The  character  I  used  to  love  but  don’t  any  longer:
this a tough one that i have google up. probably claire? idk.
The  character  I  would  totally  smooch:
dean, sam, and castiel. SMOOCHES!! LET ME GIVE SMOOCHES!! i shall give jack a smooch on his head. even crowley gets smooch on his head.
The  character  I’d  want  to  be  like:
rowena. she is a mother fucking QUEEN!!!!
The  character  I’d  slap:
mother fucking becky.
A  pairing  that  I  love:
DESTIEL!!!!!!! also love the dynamic that sam and rowena have. and the chaos of crowley and cas.
A  pairing  that  I  despise: 
amara and dean.... i hated that whole thing. especially teenage amara feeling dean up like.. POR QUE
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pansexualeldtritchhchaos · 1 month ago
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The misogyny in supernatural is actually starting to get to a point where it truly bothers me. Dean's stupid innuendo and jokes about feminine things I don't mind much because I know that's his way of being silly and he's sensitive about his masculinity, I don't think any of the characters if they were real people are misogynists. However it does add to things when you consider this is fictional and they are all intentional choices.
What bothers me especially is the consistent choice to kill off all and any interesting female characters who aren't purely love interests (Bela, Jo and Ellen, Pamela, Anna and now Gwen) and the consistent choice of making the bad guy female presenting and in some way a temptress (Lilith, Lea, Meg, Ruby, now Eve) like its honestly just getting old. I know about Charlie getting introduced and dying later too. I just. Why. What's the problem in just letting some girls live dammit, what IS the writers' PROBLEM?
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ao3feed-destiel-02 · 5 months ago
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Like Heaven
read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/e0NOAP5 by Xev3n Dean's just your regular every day guy with a massive Angel fetish. When Angels come to Earth to perform a miracle in exchange for one human soul, he tries his best not to get his hopes up, especially after he manages to really click with a guy he's just met at the roadhouse. The world holds their collective breath to find out who the Angels are going to choose, but Dean can't stop thinking about those gorgeous blue eyes.. Words: 18163, Chapters: 4/13, Language: English Fandoms: Supernatural (TV 2005) Rating: Explicit Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M Characters: Dean Winchester, Castiel (Supernatural), Sam Winchester, Charlie Bradbury, Gabriel (Supernatural), Michael (Supernatural), Crowley (Supernatural), Balthazar (Supernatural), Meg | Demon Possessing Meg Masters, Ruby (Supernatural), Gadreel (Supernatural), Raphael (Supernatural), Hannah (Supernatural), Endverse Chuck Shurley, Lucifer (Supernatural), Becky Rosen, Pamela Barnes (Supernatural), Bobby Singer (Supernatural), Jo Harvelle, Ellen Harvelle, Bela Talbot, Samandriel (Supernatural), Carver Edlund, Jimmy Novak (Supernatural) Relationships: Castiel/Dean Winchester Additional Tags: Alternate Universe, Angel Wings, Wing Kink, Wing Oil, Wing Oil as Lube (Supernatural), Castiel's Handprint (Supernatural), Branding, Explicit Sexual Content, Marking, Biting, Semi-Public Sex, Anal Sex, Anal Fingering, Blow Jobs, Rough Sex, Rough Oral Sex, Angel Castiel (Supernatural), Human Dean Winchester, Bisexual Dean Winchester, Masturbation, Masturbation in Shower, POV Dean Winchester, Touch-Starved Dean Winchester, Coming Untouched, Porn With Plot, Dubious Consent (kind of), Supportive Sam Winchester, Supportive Charlie Bradbury, Not Beta Read, Top Castiel/Bottom Dean Winchester, Top Castiel (Supernatural), Bottom Dean Winchester, Possessive Castiel (Supernatural), Rimming, Daddy Kink, Dean Winchester Has Self-Worth Issues, Dean Winchester Has a Crush on Castiel, Castiel is Bad at Feelings (Supernatural), Pining, Finger Sucking, Angst, Fluff, Smut, Light Dom/sub, Dom Castiel (Supernatural), Angelic Grace Kink (Supernatural), Oral Sex, Frottage, Carver Edlund and Chuck Shurley are not the same person read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/e0NOAP5
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chxrrywines · 9 months ago
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BLONDIEEEEEEE, love, I have a question? What's your favorite female side character or character in general, and why? And what would be some tweaks made to the character if there are any flaws? Mine is Ruby, she's an amazing character, besides the whole manipulation, she added to the demon boy story line for Sam so we'll and I wished they continued that. What about you, babes?
HI SWEETHEART!!! AAAH this is such a hard question omg i genuinely don’t think i can just pick one 😭
i LOVE ruby so much i think the samruby plotline is genuinely one of the best of the entire show, i don’t like them as a romantic ship (she literally manipulated him) but it was so well written and amazing and had some of the hottest scenes of the show LMFAOOO but i loved ruby from the start, genuinely thought she’d be a protagonist the twist was SO good especially since i was rooting for sam the entire time!!!
first one that comes to mind as a favourite though is rowena i love her SO much, i’ve always loved the witches and i think she’s just an amazing character as a whole. she’s one of the funniest characters in the entire show, she has some of my favourite plotlines (saving dean from the mark, her feud with lucifer, her and sam as a whole) and i think she’s so well written and interesting. ugly cried when she died LMAO
i LOVE so many others though like charlie, jo, ellen, eileen, early seasons mary, jody, claire, bela, ugh i could go on i love the spn ladies so much
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boykingscourt · 9 months ago
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Sometimes, I try to rank the most skincrawlingly misogynistic things Supernatural did, and I just...I can't. It's too much. Bela? Ava? Ruby? Jo? Mary? Meg? Hell, the way Naomi was basically introduced to make Cas look better retroactively? Like, it's Bela, the answer has got to be Bela for grossest thing ever, but my god, is there a lot of competition. The Supernatural fandom does not deserve women.
this is more about the fanbase but the audience response to mary post-resurrection is right up there for me
but yeah to your point it's nothing short of infuriating, especially when thought about collectively
misogynistic writers doing their damnedest to rid the show of any interesting women (very few exceptions) to appease their misogynistic viewers and meanwhile the amount of times Some White Dude had his role extended or basically became a series regular 😀😀😀
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sarah-dipitous · 2 years ago
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Hellsite Nostalgia Tour 2023 Day 339
Destiny’s Child
“Destiny’s Child”
Plot Description: Sam and Dean���s search for a crucial asset to Billie’s plan leads them to some familiar faces and places. Castiel, with Jack’s help, takes a bold step
Would I Survive the First Five Minutes??: No one died? MAYBE? Except perhaps an alternate universe Sam and Dean??
I like that Billie is being given a decently sized role this half of the season so far. Death (both her and the old Death) are extremely cool and fun characters to me
Anael!! Literally every red headed woman on spn is so beautiful and devious
Anael/Jo and Ruby were like Aziracrow but if they were frenemies instead of soulmates?
You know what would have been real cool if they had done it when they jailbroke hell?? Brought Bela back
Ok but…I don’t see why the MacGuffin du Jour being in hell is a problem. You’re literally besties with the queen
Oh Jack 😭😭 he wants to feel emotions so bad. But having no soul kinda prevents you from that, apparently
The other Sam and Dean are trapped between dimensions?? What is their purpose??
Castiel. No. This is a terrible plan. Don’t try to ALMOST die. You are also putting a LOT of pressure on Jack to bring you back and keep the spell going so the boys can come back from hell
It’s so mean that the Empty would take the form of Meg to talk to Castiel
Of course we don’t get to know where the occultum is…
Ok yeah, that idea is pretty dumb, Dean, but it’s not like a better one exists
Oh I hate this au Sam and Dean. They’re such douche bags, especially Sam. Their John turned hunting into a corporation and they do it worldwide with private jets
I love that au Winchesters believe our Sam and Dean are living the life though
The thing about not feeling feelings and just following logic means that Jack can hear “to be in the occultum, the occultum must be in you” and intuit that that means he needs to eat the sphere they found
Oh shit. The occultum is Eden?? I wonder if Jack got his soul back
Dean trying to kick au Winchesters out of the bunker and send them to Brazil 💀 they wanna stayyy
Ohhhhh Jack…oh all the feelings he couldn’t feel due to soullessness are crashing down around him now, primarily his guilt over Mary
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