#esp if they’re going thru harassment

[forgetlove]

coming to terms with queer identity can be something so transformative and also terrifying

[yonpote]

I have a confession. i only just recently converted to the phan side because english is my second language and dnp are so damn confusing sometimes. because of all their emphasis on not wanting to share their private life and I think phil said he wouldn’t want us to know if he had a partner in one of his q and as? I just kind of went with that and was like “yeah they’re not dating!!” despite the proof in the opposite direction. that’s also why I get a little upset when people claim that those that think dnp are not in a relationship are homophobic bc honestly I don’t think that’s the case. I think some people are just confused about what the hell they’re talking about lmao

okay. there's a lot here i'm gonna go thru this step by step.

- heres both the clips of dnp's separate statements on privacy wrt their relationship. neither of them say that they are not dating but rather they want to keep the particulars of their relationship to themselves. these were posted in 2019 and 2021 respectively.

- dan did a bunch of interviews and podcasts from 2020-2023. in a couple of them, he extrapolated further upon his and phil's relationship, saying things like "best friends, enemies, husbands, partners in crime, who the fuck knows," "4000 year old tortoises watching the sunset" and the classic, "so youre just a normal gay couple?" "basically yeah."

- there's a difference between acknowledging things that they have said publicly and further prying into the details of their life.

- it's understandable that not everyone's heard about these interviews! and esp if english isnt your first language, it can definitely be difficult to read in between the lines, which dan and phil understand that some fans have done ("we know you know" at the end of a newsletter.) so the homophobia thing wasnt against you or people who just havent had full context

- i am talking about people who do know all of the context and still frame them as EXCLUSIVELY best friends or queerplatonic.

they ARE best friends! it's not INCORRECT to call them best friends! but some people then get upset when others are like yeah they're husbands and married and dating and in a relationship and love each other on the basis of "breaching privacy." when it's like, HOPEFULLY no one is stalking their family members, trying to figure out their address, harassing or spamming them etc. we're going off the basis of the things they have said publicly and more importantly RECENTLY. not when they were in the closet.

i hope this makes sense and i hope it doesnt sound like im coming after you! and like i said its understandable for people who havent had the full context, but at the same time if youre someone who's just watching their recent videos, the vibes are just clear to me.

[aronarchy]

in your opinion, what should an anarchist and post-carceral society do about dyed-in-the-wool wrongdoers who *will* make the active choice to hurt people *deliberately* regardless of the societal conditions or measures taken to prevent harm?

(i'm not meaning to sealion here, i am just genuinely thinking about this question myself)

not really sure what you’re counting under “measures”—for example, taking a measure such as “killing them” would, obviously, ensure they stop hurting people. other things like (hypothetically) “isolating them w/no resources & no way out” would, also, drastically reduce to likelihood of them hurting people—no matter how much they want to & are willing to, if they don’t have the physical means, they can’t

though, I’m not in favor of things like imprisonment, bc to be able to lock up & hold someone like that already means you have some degree of disproportionate power and other things built and set up in place, and also it would be way overkill causing vastly more harm than needed which is bad

I struggle to imagine a world without any more prisons, bc I’ve never lived in one & our entire lives are saturated w/prison culture, tho there are some pre-carceral societies you could study; & personally tho I find it easier to think abt these things thru “what can I do right now,” bc it’s already a similar issue—trying to stop harm (a lot of harm happens in my life even rn), but w/o carceral apparatuses (also knowing that those can’t really help us with anything and are the harm, in similar ways)—and really anything we would do once we get to something that could be called a “post-prison” point is already what we’re doing now—or trying to do, tho the carceral state tries to prevent those things

& a key point abt that is that “harm” (esp in the form of abusive relationships) tends to not really follow a “community is in a position to stop it while it’s happening” in the first place, bc of how the entire society has a culture of silence built into it, & how tons of factors go into making these situations hard to escape or resist. & also how communities tend to suck at handling abusers even after they find out (lots of victim-blaming, not understanding how this stuff works, not understanding the risk etc). so w/, like, close interpersonal violence I’m very focused on improving the ability for victims to use self-defense, to escape, to cut contact w/abusers & decreasing the consequences for that, & helping us retake control of our narratives and decreasing tolerance for abuse & abuse apologia in general

there are also people, for example, I might come across near spaces I orbit rn & who are obviously not safe to be around (determined bigots, harassers, abuse supporters, etc) and a lot of the time I’m not in a position to do anything about that directly, but I try to spread knowledge abt right-to-not-interact-with-people-you-dont-want-to (for example), and awareness of how bigots & abusers/supporters use platforms and positions of power to enact harm, and making it easier for ppl to fuck off from them if they’re being toxic (think antifascist tactics, but including how they're applied on a smaller scale—focusing on preventing fascists from building power, denying fascism a platform from which to promote itself, interrupting the problem in its tracks before it can escalate to assaults or state takeovers)

every situation of harm/victimization is different, every manipulative/exploitative/abusive person is different, the treatment each gets from surrounding communities is different—but in general (if these things can even be said to be generalizable) whatever they are using to be able to cause the harm, whatever’s preventing ppl from doing effective self-protection, etc etc take care of that (& no one size fits all ofc but if it’s, like, a person who targets ppl in certain types of communities for attacks then a great first step would be removing them from their projects and disassociating from them and informing other at risk communities abt them)

[seokjxnnie]

hi i see that you've been to a couple bts concerts! can you describe what it was like seeing them irl? and what the process was like the day of? thank you so much ^0^

hi love! thx so much for ur patience, sorry i wasn’t on all day yesterday to answer u! i’m going to walk u thru everything i can remember about each concert, so i’m putting it under a break bc it gets long!

bts love yourself in LA 2018: A  M E S S! this was my first bts concert and also my first big concert outside of my own city (vancouver) so idk if staples centre was just incredibly disorganized or if this was the normal concert experience LOL and sorry if i come off as judgy but ngl it was was a very unpleasant up to the point of the actual show bc a lot of the fans (plus their parents??!!!) were so hostile LMAO

my friend and i had GA floor tickets. a lot of ppl who had GA camped outside the venue for days straight leading up to the concert, and even tho the venue said they didn’t allow camping and wouldn’t hold the campers’ place in line, they went back on their word and did anyway (which in retrospect i don’t blame them bc i think the campers would’ve started an all out war if the venue actually followed thru on that rule). so early morning on the day of (7-8am) the venue staff numbered the campers’ hands with sharpies so that it would count as their position in line, but when everyone lined up to get their wristbands for GA, not everyone in that lineup had camped so a lot (not all) of the campers got rly aggressive and wanted to check everyone’s hands. if they found someone without a number they’d bully that person to leave the lineup and go to the end. a lot of those aggressors were like young teenagers and their parents either came to keep them company as they lined up or they were attending the concerts themselves, and some of those parents would assist their child in harassing other ppl and then played victim when the news crew came around which was w i l d to me. but i think that behaviour was eventually curbed bc a lot of other ppl in line like spoke back and stood up against their hostility. oh also! while in this lineup, several black range rovers in a row drove past us and into the venue, so we were pretty sure the boys were in those cars.

anyway, that lineup was to get into a section of venue to get official wristbands that would hold ur position in line for GA later at the concert. this took a few hours. but at the same time (a little later in the morning ~10-11am) the lineup for merch opened up elsewhere a the venue and if i remember correctly, things sold out rly quick. i luckily had other friends attending the concert, but they had seated tickets so didn’t have to line up for GA wristbands like me, so they were able to line up and get merch for us. once GA ppl got their wristbands, we were free to go and were to return to the venue 1-2 hrs before the concert start, unless u won soundcheck then you’d be let in sometime in the afternoon to see the boys. u were also able to stick around and line up for the photobooth but we were exhausted from everything so we left.

it was a pleasant experience after that. we went home and took a nap and hydrated and got ready for the concert LOL in the evening when GA ppl came back to line up for the show, our wristbands were numbered as our position in line so we ordered ourselves with the help of the staff and waited in line outside the venue for a couple hrs. we weren’t allowed to bring in anything more than a small bag. everyone around us was nice, a lot of ppl were handing out free merch that they made! then we were let in one at a time with a security check at the door, and after that we’d rush into the arena to secure a good view. i was around #~250 and still i stood like 2nd row from the extended stage. it was an amazing view when the boys were on the extended stage, bc they were a couple arms length away and we were in the splash zone when yoongi tossed his water bottle around during tear. i also remember jimin being super interactive and flirty with the fans around the extended stage too. but i will say it’s impossible to see anything when they’re on the mainstage (esp when ur short like me), so i was watching them from the screens a lot. i think joon took someone’s phone and recorded himself on with it too! again, everyone around us were super nice and caring, telling ppl not to push each other and comforting each other as we sobbed throughout. a tall girl standing in front of me asked me if i could see and would try to tilt her shoulders in a way that open up my view which was v sweet but i told her dw just enjoy urself!

ofc the boys were amazing - as amazing as u would expect and them some! they sounded so amazing live that i literally had to ask myself several times during the concert if they were lipsyncing. they were incredibly fun, great onstage energy, and very interactive! sososo much prettier in real life too.

bts speak yourself in chicago 2019: this was undeniably a greater experience all around. this was the stadium tour, so floor seats were seated and numbered, which eliminated the whole terrible camping/lining up experience and everyone just had to come a little early to seat themselves before the show. also, merch sales were offered for 3 days: the day prior to day1 of the concert, day1 before the concert, and day2 before the concert. from my knowledge they didn’t sell out either so all around it felt way more organized, which might’ve just been bc the capacity was going to be 3x greater (soldier field was ~60k and staples centre was ~20k) and they were prepared for that. there was also a photobooth but i think it was only open to certain ppl that won a ticket or smth idr :///

my friend and i didn’t get floor seats this time bc not only did they almost all sold out immediately, but we kind of wanted a view of everything unlike in LA. in LA even tho bts was right there when they were on the extended stage, we couldn’t see anything when they were on the mainstage. so this time we sat in the seated section near like the cat walk and ~10 rows up, and bc the stadium was so huuuge bts was still pretty small but at least i could see all their performances no matter which stage they were on. so, we got merch the day before which was an easy breezy and much quicker process, and got into the stadium ~1 hr before the concert. u were also only allowed to bring in a small transparent bag, but i just brought my phone, a credit card, and an ID in my pockets. also! before the concert, we saw who we thought was txt standing at the very top balcony of the stadium, which we later confirmed in a bangtan bomb/episode!

bc it was an open stadium and chicago had cooler weather around that time which was even chillier at night IT WAS SO COLD. it had been raining all day but thankfully it stopped before the concert started and the stage was cleared so the boys wouldn’t slip (and thank god bc i was so worried about that). joon even said smth along the lines of “hey guys it’s meant to be, it was raining all day until we got together 🥰” and i hmmmmmmmmmmmm :’(((((((( but during their performances i didn’t even notice the cold (even tho my hands and feet no longer felt attached to my body) bc they were so amazing and i was crying too hard!!!

i have to say even tho they had already set a pretty high bar for the energy i expected from them, they even exceeded it this time round. i think they were super excited and proud to do their first stadium tour :’) they had learned a lot of english to share with us during their introductions, between their songs, and in their goodbyes. their production was crazy as you might’ve seen in fancams: an all out set for dionysus, huge bouncy castles for anpanman, and jungkook was on a fucking zipline for euphoria LOL

it was an amazing unparalleled experience and i hope u get to experience it too some day anon! i hoped that helped and sorry it was so long and i probs told u way more than what u were looking for LMAO but lmk if u have any other questions i can answer!! ty!!!!

[sundoodle]

Y’might’ve noticed that I recently have been harassed for interpreting and drawing characters who aren’t dark-skinned or fat, as dark-skinned and fat and even just muscular and scarred they’re in fucking war games wH-

and y’know, they had a point. I shouldn’t have, not without honoring and giving a shout-out to the Very Few female, dark-skinned/fat FE units. 

5 girls who are obviously dark-skinned, Flavia, Rinkah, Fiona, Nailah, Ena. Athena and Panne are a little borderline for canon but they’re just lighter woc imo

and the ONE girl who is fat. 

Fire Emblem has a huge problem with colorism and fatphobia, and esp combined with sexism bc the boys have more characters (still not enough but. more). Out of hundreds of usable units you can count these girls on your hands. Literally half of these examples are from Radiant Dawn. gods i wish i could live in the world where the tellius games sold well I enjoy these games, but that doesn’t mean I’m letting IntSys off the hook for their obvious biases. also if you think i missed a Unit, pls lemme know, bc i just skimmed thru the fe wiki portraits

Anyway, I wanted to highlight the couple of canon girls we have, because they are Good, and I’m going to keep interpreting characters how I want to. I hope to god fe16 does better than the last couple games, because otherwise I’m going to leave the series behind.

[neonstatic]

Everything wrong with 13RW

Firstly, the premise of the source book is distasteful and it should've never become a full show with 13 episodes of 1 hour each season.

The creators contacting health professionals to get advice on how to handle the themes in the show and ignoring ALL of the advice shows the little care given for “spreading a message” or “starting a conversation” (more like starting a controversy).

Now onto the points in which the show failed to convey a positive message in both season 1 & season 2.

I recommend watching this video for short indications on why the show does more bad than good.

And before anyone says anything, I am mentally ill and I study psychology so jot that down.

SEASON 1

Sensationalism of suicide

As a vehicle for vengeance (thru tapes)

As a tool to gain attention

The tapes are treated as words of truth and justice

If the tapes are ever criticized, it is done by characters featured on the tapes, which serves to delegitimize such opinions since they're the "bad guys" of the story

Act of committing suicide blamed on others (esp bad when the 11 persons’ wrongdoings cannot be equated in most cases)

Most people didn't deserve a tape:

Jessica cut ties with her over a misunderstanding

Zach emptied her encouragement mailbox (and quickly stopped after being called out) and she thought he threw away a personal letter she wrote him (this tape is extremely unwarranted)

Courtney claimed Hannah came onto her because she was afraid to be outed as lesbian but in the end, the photos and rumours affected them both anyway

Ryan published a poem of hers without her consent; disrespectful but not ill-intended

Clay walked away after she insisted for him to leave her alone (this tape is extremely unwarranted)

Sheri knocked down a sign and left Hannah out on the street because she didn’t want to call 911, which “caused” the death of a student (this tape is extremely unwarranted)

Those who deserved a tape (debatable in some cases):

Justin, for making up lies about her and spreading a revealing picture of her

Alex, for cutting ties, objectifying/publicly humiliating and submitting her to harassment in school

Bryce, for spreading a revealing picture of her and raping her

Marcus, for misleading, harassing and humiliating her in public

Tyler, for stalking and spreading pictures of [Courtney and] her

Mr Porter, for his very poor handling of her obvious distress

Hannah's story is no fair representation of real life

Technically, she’s a victim of social bullying (damaging someone's social reputation & lying and spreading rumours) but...

She's esp a victim of circumstances made by the creator - she's a fictional character whose purpose is to be a martyr in her story; in the real world, things would have played out much differently

Hannah tries to reach out once then gives up and justifies this bc the school counsellor didn't come running after her when she stormed out (again assuming ppl are mind readers)

Graphic rape scenes with the potential to trigger viewers - even those who aren’t survivors (replayed numerous times throughout the show as flashbacks)

Graphic and extended suicide scene (goes directly against professionals’ guidelines but screw vulnerable viewers I guess?)

Finality of suicide forgotten by the structure of narration = Hannah’s omnipresent even though she's literally dead, which grossly undermines the consequences of suicide

Adults portrayed as clueless and unable to help (not a good idea to put in teenagers’ head)

SEASON 2

Vague mention of mental illness

Implying anxiety runs in Hannah's maternal side but not diving into it

Sky being diagnosed with bipolar although there was no extensive portrayal of her symptoms (since she wasn’t onscreen for long) and immediately disappearing from the show while she’s the only character going through professional therapy and recovery (smth they would have rly benefited from showing)

Trivializing mental illness for plot use

Clay hallucinating Hannah - acknowledged but not addressed for being a serious psychotic symptom

Minors in sexual situations (too many times!)

Graphic scene of a brutal sexual battery (entirely for shock value, it didn’t have to be shown this way and you can't tell me otherwise)

Conflicting message regarding drug use

Severity of addiction (Justin getting clean then relapsing)

Recreational use (minors doing molly for fun... instead of marijuana which is less risky in comparison)

Trivializing school shooting

Advertisement tool (last episode of S1 heavily hinting at it)

Teased several times throughout the season

Blatant reference to Columbine

Not going through with it - worse move ever…

Irresponsible guide on how to approach an impulsive armed person

From a storytelling POV

Hannah the martyr

Hard to sympathize with when the tapes serve to exact vengeance more than it serves to explain how she felt and why she did what she did, making her manipulative at best

The fact that she was a bully herself in the past

(Plus being “shown” how Hannah was would've been better than being “told” how she was by other characters)

Overall terrible attempt at creating a suicide victim / mentally ill person ppl should sympathize with, the last thing the mentally ill needs is to be related to a character that is so easy to dislike

Clay as a main character

Lost his value since the story's progress doesn't rly depend on him (even tho we're forced to follow him)

Character development: he gets real snappy and no one calls him out? Increasingly unlikable

(Not that he was that likeable by the end of S1… spreading a naked picture of Tyler? #WelcomeToYourTape)

Tyler and his arc

Attempt at explaining the possible cause of school shooting? Failed.

Most school shooters aren’t victims of bullying, in fact many (if not all) are associated with hate groups like white supremacist, misogynists, etc.

Had plenty of reasons to commit suicide over mass shooting (and I don’t mean it in a ‘suicide can be justified’ sense but tbh besides his interest in guns, he’s never depicted as aggressively angry or remotely prone to violence)

Could've brought attention to male depression and male suicide far better than Alex’s story

Technical POV

Very lacking warnings. There should be hotlines at the end of every episode not at the beginning. Self-righteousness and superficial philosophy in both dialogue and narration show the shallowness and pretentiousness of the directors.

The show is presented as an objective representation instead of a media to consume and dissect and judge for oneself = in other words, the morale is laid out for you. Putting up content so shocking most of your target audience cannot watch for fear of being triggered is irresponsible. Trigger warnings don't solve that. Shooting implicit scenes and not explicit scenes is what protects viewers and still conveys the message.

Message

The show is depressing; there's barely any positive outcome. Every character is helpless to their situation. It would benefit greatly of some comic relief.

“We should be careful what we say to people.” Only when it comes to Hannah, everyone else we can be harsh to, apparently. “We should care more for people.” (True, but you can’t love depression away.) “We have power over nothing.” "We can't change anything.” “Adults don't understand us.” “We can't confide to anyone.” “We can't trust anyone.”

Seriously it's a fkg downer. This show highlights all the problems but gives no solution. You expect your audience of teenagers to figure it out for themselves? You expect your audience of teenagers to go out of their way to "start a conversation" with their parents over some sensationalist teen drama show? You must be kidding me. (Do you know how a conversation about 13RW goes? “I loved the show!” “I didn’t.” The end.)

Final note

The directors should have inserted a segment after each episode (or every couple) with the actors themselves discussing what happened to/between the characters and how it could have been handled better. If you want to act like your show is a PSA, treat it as such.

[a-mountain-girl]

Buckle up kiddos it’s rant time! Click read more to hear about Local White Man and how he derailed a class exercise on the topic of rape culture!

*I should clarify that I am a white woman

No class can be perfect but the older you get, the further in your education you get the more you expect your classmates to have some semblance of decency and critical thinking skills. Also, reticence, knowing when to keep quiet. I will admit that I personally have an issue with blurting things out still, I tend to sit near the front and so can’t always see when other students have their hands up + ADHD impulsiveness so I’m not trying to set myself up as some exemplar of perfect behavior. But I still generally keep quiet and I do have that essential amount of reading-the-room skills that are required for women. Local White Man on the other hand does not. 

Who is Local White Man? He’s a stereotype for a reason and still being in an undergraduate program at a university in a deep red state there’s still going to be a majority white student pop. and mostly within that group those token conservatives who think that they’re somehow special and smarter than everyone else for making it thru all 16+ years of education without ever once questioning their own views and only feign sympathy/open-mindedness when required (and aren’t they so benevolent and wise for deigning to pretend to listen to you for five minutes?). This particular Local White Man is in my Argument class. Argument is not to be confused with Debate. Argument is an upper-level English course about developing your critical thinking and communication skills. Of course contextually there’s always political and charged topics being brought in but we have just as much right and reason to talk about what makes a great ice cream cone. This class’s population is mostly women with about 4 male students. LWM bears a strong resemblance to other LWM’s I’ve dealt with in the past both in his behaviors and even his face. 

So far this semester I’ve mostly ignored the guy, never bothered to speak to him even because in my experience as soon as I start interacting with an LWM said LWM will make it his life’s mission to piss me off and I’m not kidding. There were many, many times I had to punch a guy or talk to the vice principle about how the current LWM was harassing me before the problem would even approach a resolution. There was a restraining order at one point because a LWM was literally incapable of backing off. So when on the first day of this Argument course I identified the current LWM as an LWM I enacted the Do Not Engage policy. It worked just fine until this morning. 

So this morning when I got to class the room was locked as usual and the rest of the class was sitting or standing around in the hall waiting for the professor to come and let us in. LWM was doing his usual VERY LOUD mansplaining to the one female student who always sits next to him and appears to be friendly with him about a company (I’m not sure if it really exists or if it’s just a concept or where it is, also the name of the company had white supremacy vibes) that if it exists consolidated insurance with actual healthcare so customers just have to pay to one company rather than pay for insurance and their healthcare separately. He called it “like socialism” and I, being an idiot, inserted “Uh, that’s not socialism that’s a very capitalist thing”. Now I was not in the mood to explain slightly more advanced economics esp when I know from experience LWM has no idea what words like “socialist” and "capitalist” really mean or how those economic systems function both in theory and in reality. Basically consolidating both insurance and healthcare into one corporation is an even more capitalist move because then a single private company has even more control. To be socialist the government would have to take control. But to LWM’s mind consolidation = socialist so things are already looking great! LWM was so upset by me correcting him that he stomped off (LITERALLY, angry arm flaps included) and went down the hall to sulk for the next thirty seconds before our professor showed up and let us into the classroom.

Now was it smart for me to interrupt and correct him? Not really. But he was talking very loudly to my friends (because his only volumes are Loud and LOUDER), making an obvious error, and has no qualms about butting into anyone else’s conversation so while I’m kind of kicking myself for it at some point LWM needs to be corrected instead of being allowed to steamroll over everyone.

So we get to class and the lecture is about causal arguments. The professor uses a rhetorical experiment which is the now rather normal asking the students what they do to prevent themselves from being victims of sexual assault. I won’t go into my smaller issues with how the professor is always taking note of how he’s trying to be inclusive because drawing attention to it only makes LWM more irritating and makes it sound like people who would think about “well there’s more than two genders” are overly-sensitive and need to be pre-appeased despite there being no complaints made about the terms the professor is using. Anyway. As soon as the question is out LWM has to take control of the conversation very loudly talking about how he was once roofied, how he gets hit on all the time by gay men... like I can’t say what’s true or not in his experience. Maybe he does get hit on, maybe he has seen some crap, I don’t know. While all the women in the class were adding our bits he kept adding comments, loudly, and at one point after the list was done he went (again at a high volume) “DON’T DRESS PROMISCUOUSLY! The FemIniSts might hate me for saying that but” blah blah and like that is something that women are told to do to avoid being a victim so like it fit for what we were doing but he seemed to think we were talking about actual measures people should take to avoid sexual assault.

We all kind of side-eyed or face-palmed as he went on about how our media is hyper-sexualized and like, yeah? but the way he was saying things made it sound like if you let kids watch Disney movies (which have sexual references!) they’re going to become sex-crazed and promiscuous and just all-around naughty (flashback to a family friend saying that maybe his daughter shouldn’t be allowed to watch The Little Mermaid because it ‘encourages girls to not listen to their fathers’).

A couple minutes later as we were looking over a paper on what men can do to work on the problem of sexual assault LWM was “whispering” about how hyper-sexualized our media is and THEN segued into how, essentially, if he is in a conversation with someone who doesn’t agree with him then he won’t even engage in conversation. He framed it as maturity but considering his reaction to my one (1) censure of his pseudo-lecture earlier and that he holds to very strong, obviously conservative convictions I can guarantee this isn’t a mature guy who’s just not getting involved in a conversation that all parties know won’t go well. This is a guy who insists on dominating the conversation, on being listened to and believed, and only ever feigns open-mindedness, compassion. This is also a guy who will absolutely accuse someone of being “hysterical” and “impossible to talk to” for exhibiting a shred of emotion over a topic that they care about or that affects them. He’s just the epitome of the Local White Man and I have a headache. LWM is just very upset that he’s in classes where the majority of the students are political opponents and where his ideas are very unpopular and instead of examining his ideas or listening to others he very loudly insists that anyone who opposes him is just not worth talking to.

Since many of us English students have classes together this whole drama resulted in a group of women who were stuck in that class spending the time before a different class we have together a couple hours later venting about LWM and his inability to shut up or read a room together.

Thanks for listening! May your life be free of the Local White Man syndrome!