#erica messer

[darcyfangirlsfrequently]

On one hand i'm annoyed Erica Messer keeps saying Garvez have a sybling dynamic (bc, be so ffr. in what world?)

On the other hand, I remember this is the same woman who had JJ confess her love for a man her children called "uncle"

So.

I'm not too worried.

[onefail-at-atime]

Why did the writers push Tyler Green on the fandom after all the negative feedback they received from CME Season 1?

Why have they completely obliterated Penelope’s character? She was always firm in her beliefs on not being involved with coworkers or even the family of victims. Tyler Green is now BOTH.

She has NEVER let a man have so much control over her, but now she's simping and fussing over his text messages?

Baby girl, this man set you up. He lied to you and your team. He used you to get to Voit. He cannot be so good in bed that you're compromising your values, endangering investigations, and lying to your friends all for a tumble in the sheets.

PARAMOUNT+ WRITERS, WHAT DID YOU DO TO OUR PENELOPE GARCIA?

[dust-in-her-face]

not me realizing just how many females in positions of power were written as villains in criminal minds. like is it so hard to imagine that there would be a woman in a higher position above emily that isn’t lurking in the tall grass just waiting to take the team out? someone who’s actually glad to see the bau thriving and emily leading them? this show has really done a good job of making me mistrust any female that isn’t part of the bau and i’m not gonna lie—that sucks major ass.

can’t we just get rid of caulson’s sus af evil jackass twin and write in a replacement? a woman who truly understands the worth of the bau? who isn’t there to make more problems but who’s there to actually support them? this department literally came from the depths of the fbi building waaay deeper underground than the steam pipe trunk distribution venue only to rise to the very top and was, at some point, the crown jewel of the bureau—are you telling me anyone who might have appreciated that just doesn’t exist anymore?

come on, erica. put your big girl panties on and write us a woman we can adore. it’s 2024. we can have fictional good working environments on tv now.

and no, the answer is not jail bird felicity huffman. that shit is baffling as hell. gimme an older lady, someone distinguished à la mary mcdonnell fresh off of her fall of the house of usher run. an older woman who looks good in a suit, can wield power believably and make looking like a bureaucrat not entirely a soul-sucking existence.

so, whaddya say? you wanna show us we can have some nice things too?

yeah, probably not.

[denimbex1986]

‘...The official Criminal Minds: Evolution Twitter account posted a teaser clip ahead of next week's episode, and it reveals JJ's fate after the end of episode 5. The clip shows JJ slowly coming to and lifting herself from the ground, as seen by the team via her live feed. There's no sign of Luke's whereabouts just yet. The clip ends on a dramatic high note as Rossi, Prentiss, and Tara enter the elevator. As the doors close, Prentiss teases Criminal Minds' jet preparing for take-off with the series' most recognizable line, "Wheels up."...

Viewers are likely thrilled to see JJ rise to her feet after another very close call for the beloved character. While it so far seems JJ is no worse for wear, the same cannot yet be said about Luke Alvez. While Criminal Minds: Evolution could use the character's death as a heavy emotional moment, it would be quite a shock to see Luke's story end with that unceremonious blast. It would be particularly tough to see him go, given that the show did already lose two key characters in the switch to Paramount+, though that could change in the case of Matthew Gray Gubler's Spencer Reid.

There seems to be more narrative value in Criminal Minds: Evolution keeping Luke around...showrunner Erica Messer has previously said that the last filmed scene of Criminal Minds: Evolution involves both Luke and Rossi, making it likely that he will live...

...Now that JJ is confirmed to be alive (at least for the time being), it seems likely that discovering Luke's fate will be a pressing plot point. Beyond that resolution, the second half of the season could see the team recovering and preparing for another push for Voit. Actor Zach Gilford confirmed episode 9 in particular will feature some surprising moments, while Tyler directed the horror-minded episode 7. Criminal Minds: Evolution is slated for ten episodes...the final stage of the Sicarius saga is bound to begin soon.’

[fabulousfangirling]

I am SO into innocent, quirky, ball of light Penelope Garcia and broody, angsty, anti-authority Tyler Green.

PLEASE, Erica Messer, NO ALVEZ

[missmitchieg]

it's still more annoying when the lighting makes any dark shades of blue, green and purple super ugly shades of grays and browns. Also, they need to fix the lighting problem

About the lighting:

Messer pretty much said find somewhere else to stream it, then which uhhhh.... Ok. You explained a possible reason for the darkness. What about the gray and brownness that looks straight up ugly?

I just wanna look at the characters and be able to tell they're definitely wearing green, not baby poo brown, or navy blue, not shadow gray. I don't think that's asking a lot.

[stardreamer28]

found this old BTS shot on twitter of David with Erica Messer during 9x03 of Criminal Minds. everyone knows I love the show - and that man - lol, but his is one of the few episodes I refuse to watch. I loove seeing him play baddies but from what I read that episode is just a little too scary. same goes for ones like Tim Curry. there's just some favorites I can't watch be that evil ya know? but obviously he rocks anything and Erica's written for Alias so we know that it was AMAZING. but yes those who have watched the episode in the past make sure to give both love! I know they got lots back then so it's a nice flashback to see this photo :). (also some part of me will stay bitter him & Rachel never got to share an episode on here when she did s6. oh the Love That Could Never Be lol)

[snailsandpuppy-dogtails]

messer hates interracial relationships cause i know she'd make garvez canon if luke alvez was luke adams

I have heard/seen this criticism before, we'll never know how true or untrue it is. After all, JJ is the only one shown to have a happyish long-lasting relationship on the show and there have been four other main white agents on the cast whose relationships have ended in divorce, murder, or like Emily, are serial-single.

[dirchristophernolan]

Aaron Hotchner, 2x23: 'I stand by my actions and by my team. And if you think that you can find a better person for the job, good luck.'

Emily Prentiss, 13x14: 'I stand by my team and the actions we've taken.'

[aaronwhorechner]

i KNOW i've talked about this before but emily walking into the briefing room and immediately asking where hotch is, is the absolute funniest thing

she walks in, her hotch senses dont tingle and shes like ????????

why do you need to know prentiss?? why do you care????????? 😭😭😭😭😭

[baukitten]

[hoosierbi]

NOOOO..... GENDERBENT JOEZZELLO LOOKS LIKE IF PAGET BREWSTER WAS GINGER

[blackbird-brewster]

I'm thinking about this again and it just UGGGHHHHHH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

God, I just want Tara and Rebecca to be happy and safe 😭

CME 17x05

[denimbex1986]

’...What can you tease about how the season will end? Are you ending it on a cliffhanger to set up another one? Are you keeping this case close-ended and maybe setting up something else for another season?

Part of it is closed and part of it is a tease for this can be continued next year. We wanted a satisfying ending to this 10-episode run, but we also wanted to set up the promise of more to come, so it has both of those elements.

Are you looking at it being another season of Criminal Minds: Evolution or Criminal Minds something else?

No, I think we’ll keep Evolution for this Paramount+ version because the word itself is sort of constantly defining what the show has done. It’s evolved. The characters have evolved. Our running time has evolved, right? Everything is new. And so one of the things when Paramount+ pitched that name was they wanted an evergreen name that didn’t just mean — we didn’t call it Criminal Minds: Sicarius, for example. We called it Criminal Minds: Evolution, so that in future seasons, it could still have that name.

When it comes to Voit’s followers, will we see any of the ones we specifically saw in those photos in Episode 2? Some of those were so disturbing.

I know! Some, but that’s the kind of thing I mean for like a next season, because there’s so many things that we haven’t been able to investigate. In our search for him, there’s some people and some things we can sort of solve, but in other ways, there’s so many, right? It was like 17,000 people had communicated with him. So it’s overwhelming when you think of it like that.

And it can almost be worse if they catch Voit and then all those followers are out there without his rules.

Exactly. It’s not good.

Is Voit’s family in danger from him?

I think just inherently being closely connected to somebody of this magnitude, you’re living with a loaded gun. They don’t know it, and that’s the thing — the audience knows who they’re living with and what he’s capable of. And so I think for that reason, the audience is always gonna be afraid for that family. How much will his family know about him is sort of the tease for the end of the season.

Does he have a limit though? Would he not kill a family member?

I would like to think he would never.

I flash back to “Normal” with Mitch Pileggi, and they found his family dead in his home…

Yeah…

So that’s what I’m worried about with Voit’s family now…

I know, I know! And you should be worried because this is an unstable individual and he’s got a family and we don’t always see that or when we do, it doesn’t end well. So it is definitely a complicated factor to his complex character. But yeah, I think the audience is gonna feel really protective of that family.

Are they ever gonna get the jet back?...

...We will get it back, but it’s gonna take a minute because the BAU’s purse strings have been tightened. So it’s gonna take a real big thing to happen for us to get it back, but we will get it back this year.’

[isagrimorie]

The BAU Team Target Board

Criminal Minds Evolution 17x09

I love this board because it mixes Character/Actor photos. The more candid photos are definitely (especially for JJ and Penelope) AJ Cooke and Kirsten Vangsness.

I wish my copy of the episode had better quality so I could read what's on the files.

The yellow stickers for the characters:

Tara Lewis

Pilates at the Gym every Monday.

Jennifer Jareau

Takes the same route to work every day.

Babysitter every Wednesday.

Has two cars: Audi and Honda.

So... JJ is definitely going to change her route and maybe change it up every other day. Also, change schedules for the babysitter.

And possibly sell and buy new cars.

Emily Prentiss

Cigarette Smoker

Faked Death

Big House with 2 Car Garage.

Travels outside of town.

First: Erica Messer is really happy she got Emily to smoke this season when she fought so hard to get that to happen on the OG show.

Faked Death -- see this is where things start to go, where and how are they getting this information on Emily? Especially with the photos of Emily undercover as Lauren.

Also, now Luke and Tara may have some inkling about Emily's past.

Big house with 2 car garage - Okay, money bags Prentiss!

'Travels outside of town' - WHERE DO YOU GO EMILY?? Do you still do the whole Sin to Win Weekend in Atlantic City? WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? How much is the buy-in? Probably more than $50,000 buy-in Rossi had to pay for during that one episode.

David Rossi

Multiple food deliveries a week, usually Chinese takeout.

Goes for a walk at 7-- around (?)

Penelope Garcia

Leaves House Every Morning at 6AM.

Luke Alvez

Bedroom on top floor - last window

Leaves kitchen side door open during the day.

Walks dog early on the morning before sunrise.

Guard dogs?

Parades around towel after shower.

LMAO. The last one.

Edited: @overpoweredcacti suggested the kitchen side door bit is on Luke’s side and that makes sense because I was confused because I could’ve sworn she was in an apartment too!

[peytonelisawyer]

erica messer i just wanna talk because what on earth do you mean penelope and luke have a “sibling dynamic” when you’ve got adam rodriguez aka luke biting his lip and with all the passion in the world, calling penelope “my beautifully dressed, well-appointed, lovely personality, sexy hot work wife” on the criminal minds tiktok page. HUH.