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cantsayidont · 5 months ago
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Originally published by Comico and later by Dark Horse, Matt Wagner's Grendel is a creator-owned series that's evolved over the years from costumed adventure to political drama to postapocalyptic action. Most of the stories are now collected in a series of massive Omnibus volumes, which have been reissued in the past couple of years with new covers.
Vol. 1 includes most of the original Hunter Rose saga, about the original Grendel character, a dapper but ruthless and sadistic costumed criminal mastermind battling a werewolf-like antihero called Argent. The Omnibus includes the "Devil by the Deed" storyline originally serialized in Wagner's MAGE series in 1985 (recolored in grayscale and red rather than full color), plus several other sets of stories about Hunter Rose. It's not quite comprehensive: It omits the early, abortive Comico issues Wagner retooled as "Devil by the Deed" (which were reprinted in the 2007 GRENDEL ARCHIVES, and which Wagner considers apocryphal), and crossovers between Hunter Rose and Batman (from 1994) and The Shadow (from 2014). Probably the most peculiar omission is that it excludes the 1989 SILVERBACK miniseries by William Messner-Loebs and John Peck, which presents the origin of Argent; I don't know if Wagner has disowned that series or if the assets needed to reprint it are no longer available.
Vol. 2 covers the first 20 issues of the Comico GRENDEL series, and take place about 40 years after Hunter Rose's death, in a near-future world where Hunter's biographer Christine Spar, daughter of Hunter's adoptive daughter Stacy Palumbo, becomes Grendel. The volume actually begins with a later series called "Devil Child," by Wagner's long-time editor (and sister-in-law) Diana Schutz and Tim Sale (originally published as a miniseries in the late 1990s), which deals with Stacy's fate; it is creatively accomplished but extremely bleak (and needs CWs for sexual assault and spousal abuse). The ongoing series, drawn first by the Pander Bros. in a somewhat dated but generally appealing anime-inspired style, later by Bernie Mireault, is a tragic but engrossing saga of rage and revenge, somewhat more fantastical than the Hunter Rose stories. The Christine Spar story is probably the most compelling and emotionally engaging section of the whole Grendel saga, although the followup, tracing the subsequent fate of her boyfriend Brian, is again very bleak.
Vol. 3 covers the remainder of the Comico series, which ended with issue #40 due to Comico's bankruptcy. This moves the timeline forward hundreds of years, first with a set of experimental (if somewhat annoying) transitional issues, and then with an engrossing but rather frosty saga of political machinations and civil war, as an ambitious businessman called Orion Assante leads an insurrection against the power of a future Catholic Church and a plague of vampirism, with the dubious aid of a mentally unstable man named Eppie Thatcher, who assumes the Grendel role and may or may not be demonically possessed. The transitional issues at the beginning are rough going stylistically, but the main story is interesting and elaborately plotted science fiction, marred chiefly by the deliberate emotional distancing of the main character (CWs apply for incest, along with a lot of sometimes icky violence), whose death decades later brings the arc to a close.
Vol. 4 includes the GRENDEL: WAR CHILD miniseries, originally intended as issues #41–50 of the Comico series, which introduce the cyborg warrior Grendel Prime and deal with the fallout following Orion Assante's death. This is a fairly conventional episodic sci-fi adventure, probably at least partly inspired by LONE WOLF & CUB, with the Terminator-like Prime traveling through the apocalyptic wastes with Orion's son and heir Jupiter. It's most interesting for how it addresses the various ramifications of the previous storyline, although the almost dismissive way Wagner dispenses with that story's survivors is off-putting. This is followed by PAST PRIME, by Wagner and Greg Rucka, which is a rather too purple illustrated prose novel about a later adventure of Grendel Prime and Susan Veraghen, one of the characters from WAR CHILD. This is followed by DEVIL'S QUEST, originally serialized elsewhere, which is actually the prelude to the second Batman-Grendel crossover in 1996. Wagner apparently hasn't yet negotiated the rights to reprint those crossovers again (they were last collected in 2008), which makes DEVIL'S QUEST puzzling if you haven't read the story it sets up. However, QUEST does boast some of the best and most experimental artwork of Wagner's career.
Vols. 5 and 6, not pictured, reprint the GRENDEL TALES series, which were Wagner's attempt to open up his concept to other writer/artist teams, resulting in a series of stories originally published as miniseries by Dark Horse between 1992 and 1998. Unfortunately, all are set in the world of Grendel Prime, full of cliched postapocalyptic horrors and boring warrior-clan bullshit with none of the political scheming and character conflicts that made the Orion saga interesting; there's some nice art, but the endless parade of threadbare concepts, throwaway characters, and nearly inevitable grim denouements becomes wearing quickly. Of the more than 800 pages of material, the only installments worth a look are FOUR DEVILS, ONE HELL (more for its stylish Teddy Kristiansen art than its typically pompous James Robinson script) and HOMECOMING (by Pat McEowon and Dave Cooper), a downbeat story in which Susan Veraghen goes on a bloody, leather-clad rampage to avenge the death of her former girlfriend.
I very much hope Wagner will work something out with DC to reissue the Batman/Grendel crossovers of the '90s. The first, with Batman and Hunter Rose, is by far the best, with an elaborately constructed secondary plot enlivening the shaggy dog story of the main confrontation, enhanced by extremely intricate artwork. The second, with Batman and Robin encountering a time-traveling Grendel Prime, is not as artistically adventuresome, and is basically a TERMINATOR story with Batman, although it's worth a look to see what the DEVIL'S QUEST story was all about.
Wagner's Grendel/Shadow crossover is a contrived but fun romp, and works better than Wagner's misfired THE SHADOW: YEAR ONE, which made me miss the Howard Chaykin/Andy Helfer/Kyle Baker version.
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gacha-alex · 2 months ago
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Grendel aka Eppy Thatcher
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krafty1 · 3 months ago
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The Daily Panel 11/26/24
Image Credit: Comico Comics
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scumgristle · 1 year ago
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Michel Fiffe
Today’s Commission: Eppy Thatcher, from the Grendel work of Matt Wagner, John K. Snyder III, Jay Geldhof, and Joe Matt
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krinsbez · 2 months ago
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No one is feeling the vision?
Come on, guys. You cannot tell me that some Clanners would not get into...
"With Orion's sword The Hunter arose And conquered the World With Fury and grace. In Him was I born In Him shall I die In Him shall I lose Name, station and face. Death over weakness Death over despair Death over personal gain. Death over dishonor Death over undeath Death over fire with no flame. All this I pledge thee O Grendel, great Khan To serve and protect Over death's endless tide, With your word in my heart Your eyes in my face And your tooth in my hand By my side."
Likewise, cannot tell me a Mech painted up with the Devil's Eyes wouldn't look awesome:
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(annoyingly, it's really difficult to find pics of rando Grendels who, just have their faces marked with the Devil's Eyes, so have Eppy Thatcher and Hunter Rose, AKA probably the least Clan-like Grendels, sorry)
Random BattleTech Pulp Crossover Thought: Grendel Addition
BattleTech crossed with Matt Wagner's Grendel. In particular, post-Orion Grendel. Thematically, it just feels right to me, IDK.
Like, I'm thinking Grendel Prime finding himself in the Clan Homeworlds, and deciding "OK, so these guys don't quite get it, but I can work with this". It would probably end in tears, of course, but man, the Clans as Grendels just makes sense.
And while there are plenty of Mechs you can't put the Devil's Eyes on, the ones you can would look BADASS.
Anybody else sufficiently familiar with both properties to work with me on this?
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travisellisor · 6 years ago
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the cover to Grendel: God and the Devil (2003) #10 by John K. Snyder III
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