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Spider-Man: Shadow of the Green Goblin #3 (2024)
written by J.M. DeMatteis art by Michael Sta. Maria & Chris Sotomayor
#green goblin#norman osborn#harry osborn#emily osborn#marvel#wednesday spoilers#spoilers#comic spoilers
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We're finally doing this? WE'RE FINALLY DOING THIS???
#HARRY MOMMY ISSUES ARC LETS FUCKONG GOOOOO#EMILY WOMENS WROMNGS LETS.FUCKIg.GOO#harry osborn#emily lyman#emily osborn#theopolispost#spoilers#osborns#canon
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photographs in the background of the osborn penthouse
#what i wouldn’t do for full high res versions of all of these 💔💔💔#the one that looks to be emily and norman standing with young harry…..#harry osborn#norman osborn#emily osborn#emily lyman#spider-man#raimi spider man#*
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Spider-Man: The Shadow of the Green Goblin #3
J.M. DeMatteis/Michael Santamaria
#emily osborn#norman osborn#harry osborn#green goblin#spider man#marvel comics#marvel 616#my post#wednesday spoilers
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Also, while I do like the Insomniac version of Harry, I do think it's worth critiquing how the Insomniac games approach the issue of wealth and the wealthy bc as I have discussed before, the games have a confused position on corporations and billionaires where they are evil, yet worth protecting despite the immense harm they cause - and the writing for Harry very much positions him as a foil to Norman where Harry is the Good Billionaire to Norman's Evil Billionaire, where Harry is kind and compassionate and uses his wealth to help the world (in the most bizarre eco-capitalist way, like, sorry, but the EMF is basically the idea that capitalism and super technology will solve things like the climate crisis instead of the whole system needing to be dismantled), and going by the art book, he even wears casual clothes instead of suits bc he's so relatable and down with the poors like Peter; Harry in this universe is basically the perfect person and has zero negative influences from growing up as a billionaire.
And again, I like him, but it is worth considering the broader picture of why a billionaire character would be written like that, especially in a narrative that leans into capitalist apologism at times - it's not even a source material accuracy thing bc 616!Harry is a VERY flawed person in the way Insomniac!Harry isn't (and this is arguably part of the recent trend in adaptations to idealize Harry as perfect, but that's a whole other discussion); I think some of it could be due to the rushed pacing and writing at times, like the story needed to establish the Peter and Harry friendship quickly and didn't have time to give Harry a more complex personality that might dampen the BFF soulmates they needed for emotional moments to hit, but who knows.
This is definitely an issue with Emily Osborn as well bc while you can handwave some of it as us only really knowing her through Harry's perspective and he idolizes her, plus the way the dead get put on a pedestal, especially if they died young under tragic circumstances, the narrative does present her as objectively a saint - but this is a rich woman who willingly loved and married Norman Osborn, who doesn't exactly hide his evil, so either she was extremely naive for a grown woman and lawyer or she was fine with what he was doing, and neither reflects well on her, but I feel like she would be more interesting as a complex flawed character than the objectively perfect billionaire angel the game writes her as.
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#tssm#spectacular spider man#the spectacular spider man#norman osborn#tssm norman osborn#emily osborn#tssm emily osborn#emily lyman#tssm emily lyman#art#gobby mention
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i just think it makes so much sense for harry osborn to be mixed. i think emily should be a woc, and i really do believe that with my whole heart
wish they were doing that in shadow of the green goblin, but hey..,,, harry looks amazing so we have that going for us
#harry osborn#my stuff#spider-man#marvel 616#emily osborn#norman osborn#peter parker#shadow of the green goblin#green goblin#earth 616#616 verse
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Please feel free to explain your reasoning! Bonus points: specify which version of the Spider-Man you're most familiar with (Raimi, TASM, comics, cartoons, Insomniac games) and if that influences your answer. I'm dying to know what people think.
#i have been pondering this for so long and decided to see what the fellow raimians have to say#i think people will have some very interesting answers#even better if it spreads to people who mainline the comics/cartoons/games#i want to know if the answer varies between versions#and before anyone starts to think this is an odd thing to ask#as much as i wish it were not so whether or not people have kids on purpose can have a HUGE effect on how those kids are raised#and heaven help the kid who KNOWS they were an accident#i feel that some versions of harry have this energy while others do not hence the poll#spider-man#raimiverse#raimi trilogy#insomniac spider-man#insomniac spider man#the spectacular spider man#tssm#tasm#the amazing spider man#spider man the animated series#spider man comics#harry osborn#norman osborn#emily osborn#emily lyman-osborn#green goblin#poll#op
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Maybe I’ll render this later, but I’m done with it for now
#myart#tssm#the spectacular spider man#tssm norman osborn#tssm otto#tssm doc ock#tssm green goblin#emily osborn#octogoblin#idk the ship name#for Norman and Emily#tssm octogoblin#I can’t draw multiple people in one space
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#mr roman#tssm mr roman#spectacular spider man#the spectacular spider man#tssm#norman osborn#tssm norman osborn#tombstone#tssm tombstone#emily osborn#tssm emily osborn#sims 4#sims 4 screenshots
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My problem with Emily Osborn/Lyman being revealed to have been alive all along is not so much the fact that she abandoned her baby son in the custody of an abuser whilst letting him believe she'd died. Yay for toxic female characters.
It's more that this was not remotely treated with the weight it deserved when it could have been the perfect opportunity to explore her personality and relationship with Norman as well as delve deeper into Harry's pre-established abandonment issues. Emily's reintroduction should have added new fuel to the ever so compelling fire of Osborn Family Drama but alas, it did not and Harry shrugged off learning one of the most fucked up facts about his already deeply fucked up little life.
Congratulations! You brought this character who was practically just a concept into the story and you did it with a bang by establishing glaring faults counter to the bland saintlike perception everyone previously had of her while also granting her added complexity by having her try to iron out her previous wrongs! Now actually commit to giving her depth and let her impact things, please.
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PETER: he doesn’t seem so bad.
HARRY: not if you’re a genius.
TVTropes: Mother Nature, Father Science / Spider-Man Trilogy (2002-2007) dir. Sam Raimi / Original Spider-Man 2 Screenplay by Michael Chabon (x) / The Spectacular Spider-Man #179 (1976)
#spider-man#harry osborn#raimiverse#norman osborn#parksborn#rosie octavius#otto octavius#emily osborn#rosalie octavius#what does it mean? what does it all mean?#*#**
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Spider-Man: Shadow of the Green Goblin #3
J.M. DeMatteis/Michael Santamaria
#emily osborn#harry osborn#spider man#green goblin#marvel comics#marvel 616#my post#wednesday spoilers
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i drew this (image’s quality is just. GONE💔) for my friend and i who were saying what harry is saying on the right during the entire tssm finale before it was even teased as an idea- even though we both knew it wasn’t going to happen. anyways i drew this for her only like a month ago but here tumblr can see it too
#will anybody care. hello#emily osborn#harry osborn#green goblin#the spectacular spider man#spectacular spider man#artz#eyestrain
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I love my wifw
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