#elliot nightray the plot device ever
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sea-blue-heart Ā· 6 months ago
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hi i came across your elliot nightray is a lesbian post and i know that that post is like. almost a year old would it be possible to explain what you meant about it being a joke about elliot's place in the narrative? no pressure ofc i just also had the same hc and i wanted to see why someone else thought that way
of course!!
basically: in my interpretation of pandora hearts, elliot isn't really a character who exists outside of the thematic role he plays in the story (even in the in-story world of the manga, because...the world is a story!) namely, he's a guy who is there to further along the themes of self-sacrifice, particularly to challenge the conceit that self-sacrifice is an inherently selfish act that places the blame of suicide onto the person committing it as opposed to the structural oppression and action that drove them to that point (which is one of the reasons why it's so important that ELLIOT is the character that does this, because he's one of the main people who champions the idea of suicide as personal selfishness.) elliot is one of the first characters to realize the story that he's in and the role he is supposed to play within it.
ADDITIONALLY AND RELATEDLY, elliot is very much a deliberate parallel to lacie. they share similar roles in the the lives of their corresponding glens (leo doesn't have a coio he has to 'kill,' but in every way elliot fills that role in his life). they both have the same final sentiments (im sorry, forgive me) that are both messages for their glen. both elliot and lacie are ultimately trapped in a structure that forces them to die as the "best" way out, *even if they expressly do not actually want to kill themselves.* and well. lacie baskerville is a lesbian. to me.
all of this analysis aside (im sorry i tried to keep this short and then failed bc im abnormal about pandora hearts) what it boiled down to is a series of messages with my friend @rheineorshine that were a combination of "well elliot is lacie so by transitive property he must also be a lesbian" and "elliot isn't an actual person in the narrative of pandora hearts so he can literally just be whatever you want" and "elliot is lesbian-coded because he's dead."
and then she embroidered "elliot nightray was a lesbian, actually" and it's on my wall forever and ever.
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fraink5 Ā· 7 years ago
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I was tagged by three people! I canā€™t believe it either. Thanks @pearlidabā€‹ @catsbythegreat @myboynagito Sorry for the late reply! Thirty-three is a scary number of questions, so procrastination happened. Sorry!
Rules: 1. Post the rules 2. Answer the questions given to you by the tagger 3. Write 11 questions of your own 4. And tag 11 people (this is not going to happen)
Nikkiā€™s Questions:
1. Favourite ice cream
Ben & Jerryā€™s Peanut Butter Cup. Iā€™m pretty sure Iā€™ve expressed my opinion on this ice cream flavor, but, let me say, I get chills.
2. Heater or air conditioner?
Air conditioner. I donā€™t know if every heater Iā€™ve encountered in my life is malfunctioning, but Iā€™m always cold. Air conditioners work.
3. Best thing to put on maple syrup?
French Toast. Also, maple syrup tastes surprising good on chicken.
4. Your favourite saying that you made up
ā€œPut a rock in your mouthā€œ
5. Favourite starter Pokemon
I donā€™t play Pokemon, but I really like squirtle. Ā 
6. Opinion on the babadook
I honestly had never heard of him until he became a LGBT+ icon. The memes are funny though. If I saw him in real life though, Iā€™d probably have a heart attack on the spot.
7. Favourite ā€˜frogā€™ meme
In all honesty, I donā€™t really like that many frog memes. Theyā€™re better than Spongebob memes though. I suppose Kermit memes are my favorite if I had to pick one.
8. Favourite unconventional place to sit (anything thatā€™s not a chair)Ā 
There are two husbands (you know, like the armrest things) in my room, and instead of using them to support my back and arms like a normal human being, I like to sit my butt on top of them.
9. Most soothing thing to you
Megumi Ogataā€™s voice.
10. All caps or no caps?
All caps. Arenā€™t we all screaming all the time? Besides, I canā€™t imagine not using any capitalization rules.
11. Something you always have on your possessionĀ 
My body. Not to be unoriginal, but I guess it would be my phone.
Catsbyā€™s Questions:
1. If you could live in any country in the world besides the one youā€™re currently living in, which one would it be?
Hmmm, I really liked London; I think I would enjoy living there. Weā€™ll see how Japan is.
2. Who is your favorite author?
Of the manga authors: MOCHIZUKI JUN. Of literary authors: F. Scott Key Fitzgerald. I wish I could write like him.
3. Whatā€™s the weirdest fanfiction/fanart/edit youā€™ve ever done?
Pls, Catsby, y did u ask me this? Ā I uhh... am writing a fic about t*cos and m-pr*g. Itā€™s NOT being published ever! Donā€™t ask about it.
4. What is the best thing about the internet to you?
Iā€™m going to say dank memes.
5. What is a movie that means a lot to you?Ā 
BSD Movie. I donā€™t really get attached to movies. Iā€™d say Enchanted, for no other reason than Iā€™ve been thinking about it a lot recently.
6. What is your favorite chain coffee brand (can be of any country)?Ā 
Dunkin Donuts because DONUTS. I donā€™t like coffee, so thereā€™s that.
7. Do you like driving?
I canā€™t drive because I think it was a scary responsibility, so I guess thatā€™s a no.
8. What is the hardest subject for you to learn?Ā 
Urghh recently Iā€™ve become so bad at learning math. *cries*
9. Cats or dogs? Both? Neither?Ā 
I LOVE BOTH! Theyā€™re so cute! But, I prefer cats.
10. Have you ever been attacked by a ghost?Ā 
The ghosts of my past. No, I canā€™t say that I have.
11. If you had to get a tattoo, what would it be?Ā 
If I got a tattoo, itā€™d been one of those cool cover-up-your-scar tattoos because I have no interest in tattoos otherwise.
Baguetteā€™s Questions:
1. First anime character you would have died for
Uhh... I canā€™t say Iā€™ve felt so strongly about a fictional character, but if I had to pick a character, it would be my precious son, Nagisa.
2. Your favorite trope for a character. What are the characteristic that would make you like them no matter what?
They have Megumi Ogataā€™s voice. Erm... usually if they have some kind of effed-up in the head or are down-right creepy, I like them. Also, if theyā€™re a shoujo manga male lead, Iā€™ll like them. I also love small, cute, and pure characters.
3. A book that made you cry
The first book I cried about was Walk Two Moons; in fact, I still get really sad thinking about it. This is a bad question to ask me; I cry at everything.
4. Do you think youā€™d be able to murder someone?
Do you think Iā€™m that adept? Also, emotionally Iā€™m not that level of callous or angry.
5. Your favorite character right now from any work and why
Right now, Chuuya has consumed my life. (Itā€™s been an unpredictably long time).
6. Someone youā€™d like to see in real life?
Iā€™d like to meet my internet friends.
7. Music or silence?
God, Iā€™m almost afraid of silence because thatā€™s when the things you donā€™t want to hear are audible. (Also, under a long period of silence, people go insane). Also, I love music, so thatā€™s an obvious choice!
8. If you could learn any language, what would it be
I would take another stab at Greek. Iā€™m Greek, and I feel a desire to learn the language.
9. If you could bring back to life any character from any book/movie/tv show, who would it be?
I want to say Elliot Nightray, but I have so much respect for the nobility of his death. While I think that reviving a character is a cheap plot device, in a world where I didnā€™t care about the integrity of the plot, I would bring back either Uncle Oscar or Odasaku--two dads that didnā€™t deserve to die.
10. you can make your otp happens, but one member will die in the next 10 chapters by pushing a big red button. Do you push it?
Hell yeah Iā€™d push it if the one who dies is Dazai! Petition to kill Dazai more in fics! #killDazai2k17 If it was Chuuya, ehh... no.
My questions:
Why did Baguette add only ten questions?
1. Any fic recs? PLEASE (They can be for anything.)
2. What is your least favorite internet meme?
3. If you had to pick one condiment to go on everything you eat for the rest of your life, what would it be?
4. What would you like to see rain from the sky?
5. Who is your most problematic fave?
6. If you could change one thing you did in your past, what would it be?
7. If you created a description of yourself for one of those ā€œtag yourselfā€ memes, what would it say?
8. If you could add a word to the dictionary, what would it be? What does it mean?
9. What is your favorite obscure insult/swear word? (From another language, from Shakespeare, anything really)
10. What is your favorite punctuation mark?
11. If you started a cult around on fictional character, who would the character be?
Iā€™m gonna tag surprisinglyĀ 11 people Ā @jemi0 @invisiblemassofcurls @mezzato @red-anemone @unfortunatesylveon @ramennn-noodles @hatterchan @dangan-stray-dogs @shiromochi @quinntheshiki and @flightless-crow Of course, if you donā€™t want to do it, you are not obligated! And if you actually read this far and do want to do it, go for it! I tagged you in spirit!
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