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For the dwit episode reciting you are planning, would it be strictly spoken words that weâd need to reblog or does that include screaming and sighs (with no additional words). I just rewatched the episode and noticed such instances are included in the captions, thus Iâm not sure if they would also count as part of the script.
sorry for the late response dhdjdj but yes!
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(Relating to the dwit thread) not sure if you saw reblogs but letting you know that Quill did already say the the thing! :DD
ik I realized like a second after I posted lol
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#also I actually just re watched dwit and man Iâm i excited for the lines were gonna do :)#we should get thomas to see this#itâd be funny
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I doubt that it was the bridge he was referring too. While I think that it is an upsetting possibility that the GRWM video was (the video was cute and fine I would just deeply dislike if that was the connecting thread between DWIT and the finale) but I donât think that JGRWM (short hand for the newest aside that I made up rn and Iâm going to use) is the bridge he was referring too.
I could go into the semantics about how it was fairly fan servicey and most likely none of what he said can be taken as strictly canonical, but the main reason why I donât think the JGRWM was the bridge he said he *might* do because it was a QnA. Most of the video was simply him just giving sassy responses to any questions the viewers asked and some makeup tips too. Nothing plot substantial at all mentioned even once, barely one thing of character drama between Janus and Roman was mentioned once.
Oh and also the other reason I donât think itâs the bridge Thomas said might happen is because if it was, he would probably say so.
that GRWM with Janus was supposed to be a bit of a âbridgeâ between the past episodes and the finale, according to Thomas. i didnât watch it. was it? did the episode work as that? maybe we need more information but if itâs as Thomas said then one should be able to tell sort of in what direction the show is going for the finale? maybe? were there any hints of that? did they at least give a time frame for when all the past a episodes and this one have been happening?
if you watched it tell me what you think, iâm curious
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To the First and the Last - Dukeceit Week Day 7 (Side by Side in the Mindscape)
Side by Side in the Mindscape - [ AO3 ] - Dukeceit Week
Janus and Remus couldn't possibly have really expected Thomas to have accepted Remus at the end of DWIT. Why take such a big risk? Dukeceit Week 2021 Day 7: First/Last Teen - CW: swearing, angst/comfort, Remus-typical imaginary violence - Word Count: 2335 ---
âAnd then, to demonstrate, Roman literally made Thomas flip him off!"
It had been a few hours since Roman's sentencing and the disastrous post-courtroom go around in Thomas' living room. Janus had sought out Remus' comfort and company the moment he'd sunk down to the Subconscious.
They were still laying together on Janusâ bed, cuddling amongst the pillows, rumpled covers making a nest around them. Janusâ bowler hat and capelet were tossed on his desk, one glove on his nightstand, the other had fallen to the floor.
Remus listened intently as Janus debriefed, describing every moment of the trial.
"And Patton," Janus flung his arms out on either side of him, his voice raising in volume and timbre as he fell back against Remusâ open arms. "Mr. Morality himself, didnât say a fucking thing!â Remus circled Janus with both arms and held his ungloved hands, brushing his fingertips lightly over his scales.
âIt was a complete and utter disaster. Thomas is now even more entrenched in Pattonâs youâre-evil-if-you-need-to-put-yourself-before-your-friends five-year-old level morality bullshit. You heard his closing message.â Remus nodded, humming quietly. âNot only are we not going to the callback, but weâre so firmly in the black and white we should live in fucking Hachetfield. AndâŠâ Janus threw his head back, groaning in frustration.
âAnd your plan for Logan backfired,â Remus murmured quietly. He was only ever quiet when Janus really needed him to be. When Janus' own intrusive thoughts started to spiral out of control.
Janus sighed heavily, burying his face in Remusâ chest as the ordinarily frenetic Side drew a soothing hand through his hair, massaging his scalp. âAnd my plan for Logan backfired,â he mumbled against Remusâ warm skin.
He turned his head, resting the snake side of his face against Remusâ shoulder, absorbing the warmth through his sensitive scales. âThey knew it was me almost immediately⊠that says something positive, I suppose.â
âYou literally showed up in the wrong tie and got his catchphrase wrong. How fucking stupid do they think you are?â
âI know, I know, that was the whole point. I could take a little bruising to my ego if it had worked.â He huffed and trailed circles on Remusâ skin. âThey did their whole Scooby Villain unmasking but never summoned the real Logan! â Janus shook his head. âThen, I dragged us all into a courtroom and still, no-one summoned Logan!. And then, then, then, thenâŠâ
Janus leapt out of bed, feeling molten anger bubbling in his stomach and an overwhelming need to move. Remus sat up in the center of the bed, crossing his legs and watching Janus pace back and forth, his head moving like he was watching a slow motion tennis match.
After a few laps around the room, Janus picked up the thread of his rant. âThen, when I shoved Logan to the back of the courtroom, no-one pulled him back in. He even asked, he practically begged to be allowed to participate and they just made excuses!â
Remus nodded. Heâd watched the entire scene play out, but he knew Janus had to get this off his chest before they could start figuring out what to do next.
âAndâŠâ Janus sighed, sinking back down on the bed. âEven before then⊠That awful moment when he saidâŠâ Janus hung his head, anger fizzling away, leaving him only with the anguish. âWhen he saidâŠâ
âI donât feel anythingâ âOh, of course you donât.â
Janus let out a long sigh, shoulders slumped. He let his head fall into his hands. âI wanted to jump over that damn table and just grab him so we could sink out of there together, come back here and find youââ
Janus laid back against the bed, flinging his arm over his eyes. Like a piñata blindfold.
Remus crawled over to him, and crossed his legs again. He carefully laid Janusâ head in his lap, stroking his hair. Janus was quiet for a little while, letting Remusâ fingertips rub away some of the tension he was drowning in. âHow do I get them all to just open their eyes and see whatâs right in front of them? Thomas isnât ten anymore⊠Thereâs so much moreââ Janus abruptly stopped talking, his mouth hanging open. He stared up at Remus.
âOh, Jannie, I know that look.â Remus flipped onto his belly, bringing his face close to Janusâ, grinning madly. âWhat are you thinking?â
âIâm thinking about you, my MuseâŠâ Janus drew a gentle hand through Remusâ hair, grinning at the fire in his eyes and the twitch in his mustache. âIâm thinking itâs time we rip off that blindfold.â
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âSo are you going to tell Logan what youâre planning? So heâll know to just stand up to them and not let them just talk over him like they always do?â
Theyâd gone to the Imagination and were using Remusâ massive war room to sketch out their plan of attack. Or, rather, their plan of reveal. Janus sat back in one of Remusâ generalâs chairs, steepling his fingers together, tapping them against his lips.
âNot quiteâŠâ Janus murmured, a smirk playing on his lips.
âOhâŠâ Remus bounced his knee, wiggling in his seat until getting up to sit on the armrest of Janusâ chair. âYouâre gonna get him to help. Double deceptionâŠâ Remus winked.
âNot deception, per se. I wonât have himâŠyou know.â Janus waved his hand vaguely. He tapped his fingers again and smirked. âIâll just get him to⊠loosen the reins.â
âHmmm⊠delicious!â Remus shimmied his shoulders, grin broadening. âWeâll get to see the fiery nerd come out to play. I love it.â Remus stood up again and spun around, trying out different poses for when he first appeared. After a few minutes, he tilted his head far to one side, finally noticing that Janus had gone very quiet.
âThereâs more, isnât there?â
Janus sighed and sat forward in the ornate wooden chair. He stared at Remusâ grand throne across the room. âIâve been thinking about Roman.â
âNow, far be it from me to kink shame a Side,â Remus stepped closer to Janusâ chair, waving his hands in front of him, a deep frown on his face, âbut Iâm not intoââ
Janus held up his hand, âThatâs not what I meant andââ he sighed when Remus threw his head back, cackling. âAnd you knew that. Of course you knew that. Alright, message received. I'll lighten up.â Remus sat on Janusâ lap, rested his hands on his shoulders, and kissed him until he felt the tension in his muscles start to melt.
Keeping his arms around Janusâ neck, he murmured, âYou were saying, Snake Boi?â
âRoman.â
Remus nodded. âMy brother's an idiot but he's not stupid. Roman's cautious. He saw with his own eyes what can happen when Creativity steps out of line.â Janus lifted Remusâ hand, gently kissing the scars on his wrists that even the Mindscape couldnât completely erase.
Janus pulled Remus close, wrapping his arms around him and stroking his back. âI think thatâs why he ruled the way he did. Heâs afraid. He thinks that,â Janus shook his head, âHe knows that their love can be conditional.â
Remus grinned, âBut perhaps⊠perhaps the reminder of how âGoodâ theyâve all got it with the Proper Princely Brother might help Roman shine in comparison.â
Janus sat back, tilting Remusâ chin to face him. He shook his head. âNo. No, thatâs not what I had in mind.â He smoothed his thumb over Remusâ mustache. âI was thinking that once Thomas accepts you, my Muse, Roman will see he wonât have to worry anymore.â Janus lifted Remusâ hand, cradling in with his own and gently kissed his palm. He traced his fingers down from Remusâ wrist to his fingertips. Janus met his eyes. âOnce Roman sees that you are accepted and loved unconditionally, just as you are⊠then heâll know that he will be, too.â
Remus shifted in Janusâ lap but nodded, pasting his toothy grin across his face. Janus pulled him into an uncharacteristically energetic hug as Remus looked to the side, âSure, Jannie.â
Janus was too excited to taste the lie.
Remus bit his lip, staring at the floor, picturing rising up in Thomas' living room⊠Ro shouting out his battle cry, running him through with his sword, his blood pouring out around the blade⊠Patton crying and everyone ignoring and shouting over Logan before the light in his eyes finally extinguishes and he sinks out, never answering another summons again⊠Thomas and Virgil having panic attacks, telling Patton to bring Remus back to the tower... He squeezed his eyes shut, tears burning.
He turned to Janus. âAre we taking too big of a risk?â
Janus brushed the back of his fingers against Remusâ cheek. âThatâs what makes this a perfect plan. If it works, the Light Side/Dark Side dichotomy will be crushed.â He pulled Remus closer for a kiss. âAnd if it âfails....ââ
âIf it fails, I play foil to the real heroes of the Light Side, Logan and Roman, just like we want.â
âEven a failure is a win.â Janus promised.
Smiling, Remus waved a hand, conjuring two large glasses of red wine. He handed one to Janus.
Janus raised his glass, âTo your first day out of the Dark!â
Remus raised his glass in return, clinking Janusâ lightly. And my last day in the Light. Raising the glass to his mouth, he closed his eyes and drank the sweet wine, feeling the sting of the alcohol on his lips, his throat, and in his chest.
When they were finished, Janus set down their glasses on the floor next to his chair and he looked closely at Remus. Remus had started twisting his own fingers, carefully cracking his knuckles. If I press harder I could break the knuckles and theyâd make that wet popping sound, maybe even leaving sharp bits to poke through the skin andâ
âWhat do you really think about our plan, Muse?â Janusâ voice was gentle but he wouldnât take his eyes off of Remusâ and his arms had tightened around his waist.
Remus took a deep breath and carefully removed Janusâ bowler hat, using the top of his chair as a hat rack. He met Janusâ eyes and let his fingers dance across his scales. Finally, he shrugged, unable to keep up his false optimism. âI think it all will depend on how much they hate me.â
Janus frowned and pulled Remus closer to him, touching their foreheads together. He shook his head slightly, âOh, Muse, my muse, my love, no⊠No, itâs not hate. Itâs fear.â Janus tilted his head, pressing soft kisses against Remusâ jaw. He shook his head again, âThe same way I help them hide, you help show them the truth. And the truth can be terrifying.â
âBut what if⊠what ifââ Remus held his breath, squeezing his eyes shut.
Heâs in the tower again, this time with chains so short heâs forced to sit on the rough wooden floor. His knees are drawn up to his chest and heâs wrapped his arms around them, head hung low, forehead touching his kneecaps. The puddle has grown and the murky, mucky water laps at his toes with every drip from the ceiling. The dripping has gotten faster now, too, a new fat drop of fetid water falling down, splashing the floor, the walls, and him after every breath. Patton tugs at the shackles on his left wrist, poking his finger at the edge of the cuff, trying to fit his fingertip between the metal and Remusâ skin. The cuffs are tight enough that he can barely fit the tip of his pinkie.
âDuke, you really scared Virgil.â He tutts, shaking his head as he inspects the shackle on his left wrist. âYou should know better than that.â Satisfied that the left cuff was as tight as the right, Patton moves on to his right foot. He tugs at the chain, looking expectantly at Remus. Remus silently extends his leg to make it easier for Patton to reach his foot without getting wet in the puddle. âWe need to keep Thomas safe and if Virgil isnât feeling safe, then Thomas isnât feeling safe.â Patton tilts his head at Remus. âYou understand that, donât you? This is all for Thomas.â
Patton stands, brushing the dirt and cobwebs and bits of moss off his pants, rubbing his hands together and shaking them out. âNow, Janus wonât be coming to visit. Not after breaking you out early last time. We canât take that risk. Roman may come see you on his birthday, if he wishes. If he doesnât, then, well, you understand why not, right? You canât expect to attack your brother and then be surprised when he doesnât want to see you.â
Patton moves to the heavy door, tugging it open with his surprising strength. He steps out into the brightly lit corridor, the cheerful light from the torches lining the walls dancing against the dingy floor of his room. His room. âYou can come out when youâre Good. Until thenââ
âMuse!â Janusâ voice broke through Remusâ vision. Remus blinked, looking around, feeling Janusâ hands gripping his arms instead of the cold shackles, Janusâ warm lap instead of the dirty floor. Janus kissed away the tears trailing down his face. âYou are never going back there.â
Remus looked down at Janusâ hands. When had he taken off his gloves again?
âRemus, look at me,â Janus whispered. He brought both ungloved hands to either side of Remusâ face. âYou are never going back to that tower. You are going to introduce yourself to Thomas. You are going to rip off that blindfold and show them all what youâand Thomasâare capable of.â
âAnd if he doesnât ever accept me?â Remus could barely whisper what he was most afraid of.
Janus drew him close, a breath apart. He whispered against Remusâ lips, âNo matter what happens, my Muse, you will always have me by your side.â --- taglist: @psychedelicships @dukeceitweek @demon9980 @the-dead-and-the-decaying
#To the First and the Last#dukeceitweek2021#sanders sides fanfic#ts janus#ts remus#other sides mentioned#romantic dukeceit#dukeceit#Side by Side in the Mindscape#kissing#yesâ there's kissingâ yo#they've had a rough timeâ they can kiss#innuendo#remus jokes about that one ship to try to get janus to chill out
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Aaa Iâve finally finished them! The sides as Tarot card from the Major Arcana! Iâm really happy how it turned out,,
The meaning of the cards and explaination are under the cut.
(All the meaning of the cards are the Golden Thread Tarot app)
Imma describe the cards meaning, and why Iâve chosen them, but there are also little details that are up to interpretation/ add more meaning!
Roman: The Fool
Meaning: The major aracna tells the story of an individualâs path towards completion. Being the first card, the fool therefore is a blank slate, a representation of purity and innocence of a child that knows nothing of the world. New journeys are signaled here, and the fool is full of exuberance and energy. He does not know the dangers that beset him during the travels, and thus he stumbles forward with complete optimism, never suspecting that he may be walking on a thin tight rope.
Why? âInnocence and purity? Shouldnât it be Patton? I hear you say.
Well, travel and optimism sounds more like Roman, fearless Prince that fights the horror of the Imagination, unknowingly destroying himself as he tries to be someone else.
This card implies growth and development, which is something that Roman is slowly but surely going through.
Deceit: The Magician
Meaning: The Magician is the representation of pure willpower. She takes all that is available to her and molds and transforms it to her desires. With her hand pointing to the ground and her wand pointing to the sky, she is the manifestation of the ancient phrase âas above so belowâ - meaning that earth reflects heaven, what is within also without, the microcosm is the macroscom. Naturally, this phrase is the origin of what is commonly understood as âmagicâ.
Why? Honestly Deceit was the hardest side to chose a card for.Â
This card means willpower and desire, things that Deceit has and wants to protect. He cares for Thomas, and wants him to do the things he wants. Also, I thought the whole âreflectsâ and opposite was something very fitting to him...
Note: His four âbonusâ arms are all spelling something in ASL.
Logan: The Emperor
Meaning: While the Empress represents the archetypal mother, the Emperor represents the father. He exudes authority - and though he is stern, he is also filled with wisdom and understanding from his years. He signals structure, stability and the rule of thought over the heart.
Why? You might have thought this card was for Patton because the of fatherly meaning because we all know Logan is the mother of the group, but the rule of thought over the heart is definitly something more... logical. Honestly I donât have much to explain for that one since itâs pretty transparent.
Patton: The Hierophant
Meaning:Â Following the bounds of tradition. What is tried and true is valued, and it is not the time to stray from the path. This card can also represent the pursuit of knowledge, or a spiritual guide.
Why? As Thomasâ morality, Patton would rather not have him stray from his path, and do things another way.
Note: The duality of the card being cute and domestic, and the meaning being âdarkerâ (not really the word Iâd use but I canât find something else rip) is absolutly intentional.
Virgil: The Devil
Meaning: Represents the fears, obsessions and insecurities that hold humanity back from reaching their true potential. Two souls are enslaved by the beast, a mirror image to âThe Loversâ, but their bonds are not those that are physicalor real.
Why? I know, I know, Virgil had a redemption arc, but anxiety is still something that stops you from getting out of your comfort zone, making mistakes and therefore learning new things.
Note: I did not work much on the âtwo soulsâ thing, but itâs actually something interesting to think about...
Remus: The Tower
Meaning: Ineviatble destruction and the breakdown something in our lives which we consider foundational. Reminiscent of the tower of babel, which was built upon far-reaching human ambition, creating an artifical comfort in our lives. But there is always an upside - when the tower levels, not only to we uncover our own hidden resilience, but we can also rebuild anew with greater inner insight.
Why? Because of the entire episode. In DWIT, Remus came in, fucked shit up, made Thomas, Patton and Virgi rethink of their action/ themselves. Now letâs just see what they will build from that...
#sanders sides#ts sides#ts art#roman sanders#deceit sanders#logan sanders#patton sanders#virgil sanders#remus sanders#thomas sanders#ts fanart#solart#i may do some more if i get enough spoons for it
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Oh I remember that haha! Man that thread is definitely one of my favorites from the fandom!
Speaking of Remus, I remember when DWIT came out and everyone was shocked that we immediately got Remus's name reveal lol! Especially since it came before Janus's
And that episode actually has a pretty special place in my heart because I was dealing with some intrusive thoughts of my own at the time and it really helped me deal with and understand them
Oh wow, you were actually one of the first sanders sides blogs I ever followed! I actually joined tumblr back in 2018 because of the sanders sides fandom and because I wanted to follow blogs like you haha.
Your art style was a really big inspiration for me when I was just starting art myself and I always really loved how poofy and swoopy the hair you drew looked.
I've kinda lost interest the tss fandom in the last few years but I still rewatch the videos sometimes and I'm excited for the new videos! I still remember the creation of some of fandom in-jokes like centhomas, snitties, and the naming of the shorts characters lol, but I'd love to hear more of what you remember 'cause I know I was a bit late for some of them ^w^
The snitties was ao funny because for a while it felt like "I've had deceit for a day and if anything happened to him I'll kill everyone and then myself" and then immediately derailed to nah man give the snake man snitties!
It's so fucking funny! I remember the long conversation on whether him being part snake meant other bits of anatomy were also snake like IE doubledicks. And then later when Remus was there everyone agreed he HAS to call him doubleD at LEAST once. XD
#i'm sure if we hadn't gotten remus's name that episode the fanders would've made it a super popular name anyways haha#similarly I was totally on board the 'ethan' name for Janus before his reveal#I thought it lined up super well with patton and logan's names#also I saw that you followed me and I'm a bit starstruck haha#although I think that's the opposite of what you're going for here lol
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đ - Opinion on Roman?
sjklsdjf I am surprised that yâall seem to be enjoying what has become my Sanders Sides Character Essays but here we go!
The short of it is this: I love him.
The long of it is this (a lot of this is obviously interpretation and it may not align with everyoneâs, which is okay! I donât mean to act like Iâm speaking as an authority here. Just my opinion on Roman).Â
I feel like a lot of my feelings and thoughts about Roman can actually be found threaded through my fics. I mean, thatâs true for all my fics about all characters, but I feel like itâs especially true for Roman. I just... alway have a lot of feelings about Roman.
Iâve said before about other characters (namely Virgil and Patton), but Roman is one of the most earnest of all the characters in the series, in my opinion. And he has been for a long time. Romanâs specific brand of earnestness when it comes to Thomas is probably my favorite thing about him. He tries so hard and so... earnestly. I first realized this way back in âAm I Original?â with his little âIf I canât come up with an original idea, what will you think of me? I canât... let you down...â which still fills me with feeling whenever I think back to it or re-watch it.Â
Roman craves Thomasâs approval and pride, and something about that guts me a little. But it comes up again and again. I feel like Am I Original? is the first real taste of it--the first open display of it--and then it comes up again in Moving On with Roman trying to get Thomas to find a way to win his ex back because he thinks thatâs what Thomas desires, and again in 12 Days with the lyrics, and again in CLBG with the whole âit was fun acting alongside you, Thomasâ spiel... again and again and again we are given signs of how much Roman wants to live up to that âThomasâs Heroâ label.Â
But he fails a lot, too. His ways of making Thomas happy in the Moving On arc are, ultimately, misguided and detrimental. His lyrics are (rightfully) criticized. And even when Thomas has a shot at Romanâs wildest dreams for him with the callback, Roman wants Thomas to be proud of him more than anything and Roman sacrifices that dream in the name of Thomas being a good person. Everything Roman does is in the name of trying to make Thomas proud.
And he tries, yâknow? He tries to do better. He knocks it off with the nicknames towards Virgil for a while. The Phases video shows Roman making a concerted effort to be more honest with his insecurities and his ânot doing okayâ-ness. After the run-in with his brother in DwIT, we see Roman making concerted efforts to be kinder with his words.Â
Then the end of Putting Others First comes along, and Roman is told in no uncertain terms that the judgement call he made was the wrong one. More than that, the judgement call he made ended up hurting Thomas. He was given a no-win scenario, tried to do right by Thomas when pushed into a corner, and ended up failing him (as I think Roman sees it himself, though I wouldnât call it failing him personally?)
All of this and more (Crofters and the LNTAO vid, anyone?) has been corresponding with a spiraling self-esteem and self-worth issue. Itâs been a long time coming, I think, but it is getting harder for Roman to hide. He no longer believes that he is loved (his âRightâ when Patton tells him that is so blatantly dismissive, and he doesnât respond except a quiet nod when Virgil tries to tell him âno one hates youâ in LNTAO). And Roman walking away from the end of POF with the firm belief that not only does Thomas no longer see Roman as his hero but that Thomas lied to his face about it, and... well.Â
Itâs safe to say that Romanâs not doing okay. And my heart hurts so, so much for him. Because he tries, and he tries because he loves Thomas so much and so openly, and like Iâve said before. Iâm a sucker for genuine earnestness from a character. And Roman Iâve-always-been-here-fighting-for-you Sanders certainly delivers that in droves. But similar to Patton, Roman keeps failing (or perceives that heâs failing).
And since Roman is Thomasâs ego, I canât say Iâm surprised that such repeated âfailureâ on the part of Roman is having such a massive impact on Romanâs sense of self-worth. Nor do I find the way that growing insecurity manifests (anger, insults, general lashing out) particularly surprising, given Romanâs functions. That doesnât excuse it or make it okay--but I understand where itâs coming from, yâknow? Itâs like when Thomas says/sings in LNTAO: âyou insulted us while venting/[R: Sorry--] Itâs all right, Princey/honestly it didnât hurt me, itâs clear youâre the one whoâs hurting.â
But I trust the creative crew--wholeheartedly--and Iâm really curious where theyâre going to take Romanâs arc and his relationship to the others. Because many of those relationships are splintering for Roman and, as was made clear (I think) at the end of POF, it wonât be fixed with a simple âwe love youâ. Itâs going to take something else--something more than that. Not just from the others, but from Roman too. I just canât wait to see where it leads.
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I now have the goofy-ass image of Wretched!Remus carting around a wagon of unlit Molotov cocktails, one hand on wagon handle, the other holding a Molotov and using his Pyros / Spark of Life to ignite it. Heâs blithely humming âBurning Down The Houseâ.
âIâm an ordinary man~â, he sings, as his neck bolts be arcing with terrifying intensity.
What crimes will he commit.
Besides serial arson.
Thatâs a given.
Janus is probably involved somehow. Pretty much everyone else is facepalming.
Okay, this lead to an amusing/thoughtful convo thread with the co-conspirator:
Me: ngl i love how fandom be honed in on connecting trash goblin with arson
Him: fire is a common appreciation / desire for all humans arguably hearkens back to stone age behaviors we're honestly not much better than moths in that regard we're drawn to flames as much as we're repelled by them
Me: yeah - i can see that being the case - tho we couch a lot of symbolism and shit into the concept of fire
Him: remus is unfettered desires sure, he'll start a bloody fire cause he wants to see a fire but he'll also escape from a burning building even if we take his "self destructive" suggestions in DWIT at face value he doesn't expect his ideas to result in thomasâs death not even the self immolation one this can be understood by how he expects thomas to be calm enough to dance to "shake it off" there are ways that you could do remus's suggestions while surviving without much if any harm there are stunt performers who specifically do on fire scenes so yea, as much as remus is a fucking uninhibited pyromaniac, he's got the self survival aspect going strong
Me: indeed like fire resistant gels for pyro stunts yer still on a clock to get the fire put out but it certainly makes it less a deathwish
Him: or fire suits
Me: yeah... the whole survival aspect of it has a few dovetails i see one: for cognition systemic approach - attenuated / in-conversation with the Sides who do the Self-pres thing specifically ("whoah, wait. I don't want you killing us all") two: in individualized AUs, he does strike me as the kinda guy that generally doesn't want to snuff it because he won't be able to witness people's reactions to his stunts
#sanders sides#remus sanders#Janus Sanders#(everyone else: 'gdi remus - why you gotta get another angry mob after us?? ? what is yOUR DEAL?')#(then we get philosophical about fire and remus under the readmore)#fire/
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Shopping Shenanigans
AO3 link: Here
Relationship: None
Warnings: Typical Remus Stuff, Some blood/body horror, Summary: Thomas just wants to go shopping like a normal person. Its been almost a year since I last posted a fic. I actually wrote this about a week after DWIT, and it sat collecting dust. I said frig it and decided to post it with little to no changes. I hope yall enjoy this garbage. AU where Thomas doesn't have hello fresh and so he must go grocery shopping like a normal person
Grocery shopping is usually a normal experience for Thomas. Well, as normal as it can be when four different people are talking at once about his shopping choices. Four people that no one else can see.
The five had formed a sort of routine. Thomas would hold his phone to his ear in an attempt to seem like a normal person talking on the phone about what to buy. Logan would lecture Thomas about the importance of good eating, and what they do and donât have the money for. Patton would beg for Thomas to buy some sweets, or anything that has a cute mascot (Logan usually shoots most of his ideas down, as they do not need all of those items. He may, every once in a while, let it slide though, and allow Thomas to get a single dessert item). Roman usually just teams up with Patton in trying to get Thomas to buy things they definitely donât need. And Virgil just worries the whole time, hoping they have enough money for everything, especially when Logan finally caves with the other two sides.Â
This is their routine. This is normal. But now, there is a new factor in play, messing up their routine.
"What if you just bought everything in the store, right now? Ooh, better yet, how about if you just stole everything?â
Ever since he had made an appearance, Remus has been nothing but a thorn in Thomasâs side, showing up where he shouldnât and giving suggestions that Thomas would never go through with. Right now, he was sprawled across Thomasâs shopping cart in a position that, if he were corporeal, would be both uncomfortable, and probably impossible. Thomas tries his hardest to look past him and keep shopping, not letting the thoughts get to him. However this doesnât deter The Duke.
"How about we take all of the Roman-lettuce and burn it all, every piece? I bet everyone would be better off without it."
"Bro, could you shut your mouth for like, a second?"
"Oh, you mean like this?" Before anyone could reply, Remus snaps his fingers, and his mouth is sewn shut with a bright green piece of thread. Blood drips down from the little holes the thread made in his skin. Thomas flinches, shutting his eyes tightly.Â
"Did not need to see that." He whispers to himself. He opens his eyes and continues looking at vegetables at Logan's suggestion.
At the edge of his vision, Thomas sees Remus snap again and his face goes back to normal. He breathes a quiet sigh of relief and moves onto the next vegetable. Its quiet for a while, and Thomas doesn't check to see if Remus is still there or not, having learned his lesson last time. It's almost too quiet...
"What if you just took this eggplant and shoved it up your bu..."
"Please stop!"
The couple next Thomas gives him a confused glance. He gestures weakly to his phone, and they shrug, before moving on.
Maybe Thomas's life will never be considered normal in the eyes of others. But in time, this too will become normal to him.
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"Freaks Stick Together" (it was meant to be a temporary title, but clearly I never figured it out) about Janus' and Remus' friendship in canon. It begins off with King wishing his friends goodbye as he prepares to set off and a solo journey to get better, a journey that would be his last. He's promising he'll be back, and that they'll sing and dance and play when he does. Janus tastes all the lies bitterly in his mouth, but keeps quiet. Roman and Remus emerge, and at first Remus was dead silent. He was like a shadow to Roman, constantly trailing behind him, clinging to him like he was the only one he could trust. It wasn't until several weeks later that Janus caught him alone, sitting by himself as he watched the others play joyfully. He starts a conversation, or attempts to at least. And although neither of them knew it, it would be the very beginning of a beautiful friendship.
I should just make a long thread with a bunch of ideas I've had that I have no plan on completing anytime soon
#Raf's rambles#idea thread#it feels kinda#obsolete and irrelevant now though#since I started writing it before pof#and the end was meant to be Remus going to terrorize the others in DWIT after they hurt Janus#and like#with the knowledge I have now#it just feels#outdated#aldjsjsh
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Every time I watch DwIT I always find it interesting when Virgil specifically has the gripe with Thomasâ difficulties with doing what Thomas thinks is right, and not necessarily what he, Virgil, thinks is right or what objectively is the right thing to do. Like thereâs a subtle difference there and it may just be semantics and iâm over thinking but what is right, is very different from what a person may think or prioritizes as right. I just think itâs interesting because even though as people we do tend to ascribe our personal beliefs of what is right or wrong as the be all end all, even if that is not true.Â
But it just seems like Virgil doesnât always agree with what Thomas thinks is right, and it reminds me of how in SvS Virgil defended the choice to go to the wedding when he too clearly doesnât think the wedding is necessarily the right thing to do. Actually, thinking it over, Patton is the only side who enthusiastically thought that the wedding was the most important thing, not even Thomas really agreed.
My point is, I think all the sides have a moral compass to some extent that differs from Thomas, and Patton. And that itâs odd that Virgil clearly has his own opinions on matters but keeps them to himself and defers to Pattonâs views over his own...Â
I donât know maybe Iâm over thinking this, and I feel like I lost my original thread of thought... Oh well...
#virgil sanders#ts virgil#ts anxiety#sanders sides#thomas sanders#patton sanders#ts patton#ts morality#dealing with intrusive thoughts#selfishness vs selflessness#ts:dwit#ts:svs#nightpanda
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The DWIT Thread needs a Remus and Roman!! The sooner these roles are claimed the sooner we can recite the episode!
#sanders sides#thomas sanders#logan sanders#roman sanders#virgil sanders#remus sanders#janus sanders#patton sanders#ts sides
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hey for the thread thing with dwit that your doing, whoâs doing Virgil??? like I think I claimed it but idk
Iâm just confused
yep youâre set to be virgil!
#sanders sides#thomas sanders#logan sanders#roman sanders#virgil sanders#remus sanders#patton sanders#ts sides
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[ CONTENT WARNING ]
Themes of blood, gore, death, violence
Sexual innuendos
Descriptions of disturbing imagery
Crude humor
Religious commentary
The DWIT Thread is officially CLOSED!! It will start at 1:00 pm EST today!!
Cast-
@reptilianrapscallion420 as C! Thomas
@nico-the-overlord as Patton
@quillshehim as Logan
@lemon-is-tired as Virgil
@thatonelesbianfander-reblogs as Remus
@briefdreamergarden as Roman
Itâs going to start through reblogging THIS POST! Cast, keep notifications on for everyone else including me so you can stay on track of each line. Be sure to have the episode/transcript ready so you can keep your lines accurate :)
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Hey guys!
We need ONE more person for the DWIT thread (which weâre using to recite the whole episode). We need someone to play Roman. He doesnât have many lines in this, so donât stress about it! PLEASE someone claim his role!
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Keep forgetting to say, but I will most likely be using my rebooting account so I donât clutter my main b/c I like to keep everything organized đ
Really excited for the thread, DWIT is one of my favorite episodes
alright sweet! all we need rn is someone to play roman and then the thread can start :)
#sanders sides#thomas sanders#logan sanders#roman sanders#virgil sanders#remus sanders#patton sanders#ts sides
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